• Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux?

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    I correct my "18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux?", I translate report summary again, and invite Daniel Robbins and Gentoo Linux maintainers to this discussion.

    7 Summary

    7.1 Revelations, advantages, disadvantages and fuck-ups in the Gentoo
    Linux project

    7.1.1 Revelations
    1. Complete control over the operating system thanks to the Flag Use mechanism;
    2. Latest packages;
    3. Binary packages (originally there were no binary packages in Gentoo
    Linux, which is a distribution based on source packages, and requiring compilation before installation).

    7.1.2 Advantages
    1. Despite the deficiencies in the "Gentoo Handbook" textbook, this
    system can be installed and fired;
    2. From "Gentoo Handbook" I learned that in each Linux operating system
    there should be environmental variables with compilation flags: CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, MAKEOPTS (in Kubuntu it is a variable MAKE), DMDFLAGS and
    RUSTFLAGS. After returning to Kubuntu, I set them in a $ Home/.profile
    file. For me, these flags are useful to the compilation of my own
    libraries and programs, which of course I compile from sources.

    7.1.3 Disadvantages
    1. No digital signatures of binary packages.

    7.1.4 Fuck-ups
    1. An incomplete Gentoo Handbook (no mention I need to unpack Stage 3
    archive to /mnt/gentoo when I install from other Linux host; given at a
    bad time (in the middle of the installation) the recommendation to
    recompile the newly installed Gentoo Linux (because user set it's own
    USE flags); omitting the sound configuration);

    2. Continuous distribution. Causes that you still need to adapt my own libraries, programs and scripts to changes in the operating system;

    3. It is not known how to get sound in window utility programs;

    4. VLC package broken for years;

    5. Limited use of binary packages mechanism;

    6. Malicious configuration of binary packages (e.g. sometimes they are
    only configured with the "qml" or "telemetry" USE flags);

    7. Compilation of scripting apps such as Firefox or Thunderbird does not improve their speed (they continue to moor);

    8. Thunderbird, although it implements only a few protocols (e-mail and discussion groups), but requires its own HTML browser engine for its operation, which is why it compiles for hours, instead of in a seconds.
    It must be the same with other script apps based on your own inner HTML browser;

    9. Distro Gentoo Linux maintainers do not reveal what are the costs of maintaining this project, and thus users do not know how much they
    should pay in the donations for using this operating system. The same, unfortunately, applies to Kubuntu supplied by corpo Canonical (and many
    other Linux distros).

    7.2 Applications
    I installed Gentoo Linux due to strong agitation on the group comp.os.linux.advocacy led by "Farley Flud <ff@linux.rokks>". However, I
    was not able to achieve the functionality of this operating system as in
    the case of Kubuntu 20.04. In addition, many hours of compilations is in
    fact backwardness because the user is working with Gentoo Linux more
    slowly, instead of faster and faster. The decisive problem for me was
    the lack of a way to start the sound in window programs, and the VLC
    package broken for years. Unable to accept this, I returned to the
    Kubuntu 20.04 operating system and now I appreciate how fast,
    comfortable and useful it is.

    7.3 Is the problem organizational or individual?
    Pathologies in the Gentoo Linux project are organizational.

    7.4 Is the problem durable or temporary?
    There have been problems for years.

    7.5 Future predictions
    Nothing will change in the Gentoo Linux project. It will exist as long
    as bankers will finance it.

    7.6 Recommendations for now
    For users of the Linux operating system: My conclusions are that the
    best are Linux distros based on editions (and not continuous like Gentoo Linux), in the LTS version (English acronym: Long-Term Support). This is obviously due to the fact that in such a disto my libraries, programs
    and scripts operate for many years without having to adapt them to the
    new version of the operating system. Distros appearing in the LTS
    version is e.g. Ubuntu or Kubuntu. I have been using Kubuntu 20.04 LTS
    for years and I can say that, contrary to the propaganda, "Farley flud <ff@linux.rocks>" I am not a fierce click or a devotee of rounded
    corners of the windows - I create my own libraries, programs and
    scripts, including the scripts which I configure the entire operating
    system. In fact, I think that before "Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>" will install the program he needed, I will be after work and after dinner, at
    the dessert. This is what it looks like today, 2025-09-14, no.

    7.7 Recommendations for the future
    For Distro Linux Gentoo maintainers: Without getting along with the
    founder of this Distro, Daniel Robbins, you have no chance to seek and
    go straight. This is the result of your smart takeover of this project, instead of a desire to discuss factual, i.e. for honest and impartial resolution of technical disputes regarding the future of this distro. In short, if you do not fix the evil that you have done to Mr. Daniel
    Robbins, you will not achieve anything more and you will continue to
    boat in your head as it is now. Because a hostile acquisition is a
    violation of moral rights (mentioned above indicators brotherhood,
    personal culture, economic culture and honesty). It should be recalled
    that moral laws have priority over all other laws (include physical
    laws, and economics laws, and human federal and local laws).
    For Linux users: Reading https://distrowatch.com should be enough to
    know what's new in Linux distributions. Note: Don't forget to give them
    a few dollars for these publications from time to time! Because there
    are very few good info sources on Linux topics.
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