• Re: =?UTF-8?B?TWljcm9zb2Z04oCZcw==?= Xbox Handheld Is A Good First Step Toward A Windows Gaming OS

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Sun Aug 24 22:02:20 2025
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    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:12:14 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On SteamOS, a majority of games are available but they will perform
    worse than they would directly on Windows where all the games are
    available. In the end, gamers want their games to be playable; they
    don't give a poop if the kernel is not as flexible.

    On a conventional desktop, you would have a point.

    But on a handheld device, the Windows interface and overhead just get in
    the way. While SteamOS cannot offer 100% compatibility, it provides a
    superior enough user experience that it has become the leader in that particular market, leaving genuine-Windows-based competitors in the dust.

    True, that market is still small. But the fact that Microsoft has taken an interest and is now trying seriously (though not successfully) to compete, shows that it recognizes the potential for growth.
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Mon Aug 25 03:58:25 2025
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    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:02:20 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <108g25c$32gqg$7@dont-email.me>:

    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:12:14 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On SteamOS, a majority of games are available but they will perform
    worse than they would directly on Windows where all the games are
    available. In the end, gamers want their games to be playable; they
    don't give a poop if the kernel is not as flexible.

    On a conventional desktop, you would have a point.

    Not necessarily. Some games run better on proton using DXVK
    than Windows with DX##.

    (I guess Windows could try to use DXVK, but I'm guessing the
    OS wouldn't allow it.)


    But on a handheld device, the Windows interface and overhead just get in
    the way. While SteamOS cannot offer 100% compatibility, it provides a superior enough user experience that it has become the leader in that particular market, leaving genuine-Windows-based competitors in the
    dust.

    True, that market is still small. But the fact that Microsoft has taken
    an interest and is now trying seriously (though not successfully) to
    compete,
    shows that it recognizes the potential for growth.
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Mon Aug 25 08:52:30 2025
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    On 2025-08-24 6:02 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:12:14 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On SteamOS, a majority of games are available but they will perform
    worse than they would directly on Windows where all the games are
    available. In the end, gamers want their games to be playable; they
    don't give a poop if the kernel is not as flexible.

    On a conventional desktop, you would have a point.

    But on a handheld device, the Windows interface and overhead just get in
    the way. While SteamOS cannot offer 100% compatibility, it provides a superior enough user experience that it has become the leader in that particular market, leaving genuine-Windows-based competitors in the dust.

    True, that market is still small. But the fact that Microsoft has taken an interest and is now trying seriously (though not successfully) to compete, shows that it recognizes the potential for growth.

    I suppose that we will have to see how the Xbox-badged devices do the
    job before determining whether SteamOS is truly better on a protable
    device or not. For me, Steam is the least problematic thing on Linux,
    but there is no denying that many games don't work right on it. Any game requiring the TPM will automatically not work on a device using SteamOS
    which means that if you're a fan of multiplayer, you're likely going to
    find it limiting.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Mon Aug 25 21:51:57 2025
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    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 08:52:30 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I suppose that we will have to see how the Xbox-badged devices do the
    job before determining whether SteamOS is truly better on a protable
    device or not.

    Xbox seems to be in decline these days. The best thing that can be said
    about this Xbox-Windows hybrid thing is that itrCOs a last-gasp attempt by Microsoft to bring some life back into the Xbox market.

    Remember, SteamOS is about Windows games. Xbox brings nothing to that.
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