• Re: My Afternoon In The ER.

    From Joel@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 12:38:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the kind of insanity the idiot Left is reduced to these days. Any >disagreement with their stupid agenda and you're a "hater," not worthy of >life — something akin to sub-human cattle or "goyim" — as the Israelis refer
    to the others like the Gazans.


    With people like you who collect used laptops to put Mint on, but
    can't read a peanut butter ingredient list for years, being on the
    right, I dare say we should vote against what you believe.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
    United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
    protection of the laws.

    Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
    liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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  • From Rudy Canoza@frosty-king-formerly-whiteys-jolly-kone@taft.com to alt.computer.workshop,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,talk.politics.guns,dumb.ass.democrats.america.hating.assholes on Fri Jul 4 19:09:18 2025
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    On 03 Jul 2025, Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> posted some news:68669b6e$1$4125$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    On Jul 2, 2025 at 11:02:30 PM MST, "Anonymous" wrote
    <10456dm$2lde4$1@news.tcpreset.net>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Jul 2, 2025 at 7:02:13 PM MST, ""Sgt. Joe Friday"" wrote
    <xn0p7tvly3n3adh000@usnews.blocknews.net>:

    Itamar Lichtman wrote:

    So I live in Boston MA and suffer from AFIB so I am on blood
    thinners, Plavix and Xarelto.
    This means when I get a cut or nose bleed it can sometimes be
    difficult to stop due to my blood not clotting due to the blood
    thinners.

    So this afternoon out of the blue I started bleeding from my nose.
    I've had this before and was taught how to stop the bleeding with
    pressure and a spray I have.
    This time was different as there was a LOT of blood and nothing
    was working.
    So my wife took me to the local ER before I bled out.

    I could not believe what I saw.
    It was like a fucking third world nation.
    No place to sit because migrants with seemingly endless numbers of
    kids were taking up all of the seats.
    And then they were yapping away in Spanish, I think, but none of
    them actually looked sick to me.

    So fortunately triage worked and I was taken in quickly, blood
    soaked towel and all. I was treated and the doctor was able to
    cauterize the wound and stop the bleeding.

    So once I calmed down I asked the nurse wtf was going on with the
    waiting room and people seemingly not needing ER type care?
    She gave me this look and unloaded on me.

    Turns out, while I had to prove insurance, ID cards, coverage,
    deductible and such, the majority of the people in the ER waiting
    room did not.

    And the final blow was when I learned that these people use the ER
    as their PC for sniffles and so forth !!!

    So WTF is going on with this country?

    You tell me.

    Be thankful you don't live in the welfare state California.
    Our schools, medical facilities, homeless shelters and streets are
    flooded with these parasites and as soon as I retire from the PD
    I'm outta here.
    My wife is a teacher and she tells me everyday about students
    enrolling in the school who cannot speak English and require
    special ed. And while this has always been the case, the current
    numbers are far larger than in the past and the multitude of
    various different native languages is great and makes it even more
    difficult to assist these students.

    I'm sick of this shit and so are many others here in CA.
    I pay 1000's into health insurance each year and even though I
    rarely make claims, when I or my wife do it's always the same run
    around with the insurance company trying to deny claims.
    Yet people who climbed across the fence get it all for free, at
    least in CA.
    This is disgusting.
    The system here in the US is not designed to handle millions of
    illegal border jumpers that Biden welcomed into the country.

    Wow. There's a lot to unpack in this stew of resentment,
    misinformation, and outright dehumanization. Let's start with the
    language: calling human beings "parasites" is not just vile -- it's
    the kind of rhetoric used to justify cruelty, neglect, and worse. If
    you're that comfortable dehumanizing kids and families trying to
    survive, you might want to take a long look in the mirror before
    ranting about "what's disgusting."

    Some "people" DESERVE to be dehumanized.

    Racists such as yourself are as close as I can think of.

    You complain about California being a "welfare state" while ignoring
    that it's also the fifth largest economy in the world -- in no small
    part because of immigrant labor and a diverse population. The state
    subsidizes many of the red states that love to bash it while cashing
    the federal checks its economy helps fund.

    Myth.

    Nope.

    California's economy:
    "California is now the 4th largest economy in the world" - CA
    Governor's office (Apr 23, 2025) https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/04/23/california-is-now-the-4th-largest-eco nomy-in-the-world

    Doesn't matter what their economy is if they can't pay their bills.

    "California’s total long-term debt, between the state and local
    governments, has quietly surged to over half a trillion dollars, making it
    the most indebted state in the nation. The state’s debt problem is largely due to rapid growth in unfunded liabilities for pension and health care retirement benefits already promised to public workers."

    https://reason.org/commentary/californias-state-and-local-government-debt- is-over-500-billion/
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 20:19:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-07-04, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the kind of insanity the idiot Left is reduced to these days. Any >>disagreement with their stupid agenda and you're a "hater," not worthy of >>life — something akin to sub-human cattle or "goyim" — as the Israelis refer
    to the others like the Gazans.


    With people like you who collect used laptops to put Mint on, but
    can't read a peanut butter ingredient list for years, being on the
    right, I dare say we should vote against what you believe.

    The system was never intended to handle 12,000 migrants per day like
    what happened under Joe Biden.

    <https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/12000-migrants-cross-southern-border-in-a-single-day-tuesday-highest-total-ever-sources/>

    As for people in the US supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and so forth, these people
    are at best useful idiots.

    LBGTQ+ for Gaza?

    You can't be serious.
    A person like you Joel and your boyfriend wouldn't last a day in that
    part of the world before you got tossed off of the roof of the tallest structure.
    Do me a favor if you will, take snit along with you.
    Make sure he talks a lot.
    ROTFLMAO
    --
    pothead

    36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
    the *Snit (AKA Michael Glasser)*, this should not be done. He
    will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
    need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
    set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
    pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
    engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
    you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004 <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 16:23:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
    On 2025-07-04, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the kind of insanity the idiot Left is reduced to these days. Any >>>disagreement with their stupid agenda and you're a "hater," not worthy of >>>life — something akin to sub-human cattle or "goyim" — as the Israelis refer
    to the others like the Gazans.

    With people like you who collect used laptops to put Mint on, but
    can't read a peanut butter ingredient list for years, being on the
    right, I dare say we should vote against what you believe.

    The system was never intended to handle 12,000 migrants per day like
    what happened under Joe Biden.

    <https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/12000-migrants-cross-southern-border-in-a-single-day-tuesday-highest-total-ever-sources/>

    As for people in the US supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and so forth, these people
    are at best useful idiots.

    LBGTQ+ for Gaza?

    You can't be serious.
    A person like you Joel and your boyfriend wouldn't last a day in that
    part of the world before you got tossed off of the roof of the tallest structure.
    Do me a favor if you will, take snit along with you.
    Make sure he talks a lot.
    ROTFLMAO


    Blah blah blah. You righttards come up with the most cockamamie
    excuses for your hell-bound idiocy, I don't care what would happen to
    me in Gaza because I'm more worried about both U.S. parties arming
    Kikeland, to go to war with peasants, when it was kikes who started
    the conflict. Or did you think 10/7 just came out of nowhere? I
    thought you were so informed, heh, you're a fucktard.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
    United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
    protection of the laws.

    Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
    liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 13:43:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Joel wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
    On 2025-07-04, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the kind of insanity the idiot Left is reduced to these days. Any >>>> disagreement with their stupid agenda and you're a "hater," not worthy of >>>> life — something akin to sub-human cattle or "goyim" — as the Israelis refer
    to the others like the Gazans.

    With people like you who collect used laptops to put Mint on, but
    can't read a peanut butter ingredient list for years, being on the
    right, I dare say we should vote against what you believe.

    The system was never intended to handle 12,000 migrants per day like
    what happened under Joe Biden.

    <https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/12000-migrants-cross-southern-border-in-a-single-day-tuesday-highest-total-ever-sources/>

    As for people in the US supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and so forth, these people
    are at best useful idiots.

    LBGTQ+ for Gaza?

    You can't be serious.
    A person like you Joel and your boyfriend wouldn't last a day in that
    part of the world before you got tossed off of the roof of the tallest structure.
    Do me a favor if you will, take snit along with you.
    Make sure he talks a lot.
    ROTFLMAO


    Blah blah blah. You righttards come up with the most cockamamie
    excuses for your hell-bound idiocy, I don't care what would happen to
    me in Gaza because I'm more worried about both U.S. parties arming
    Kikeland, to go to war with peasants, when it was kikes who started
    the conflict. Or did you think 10/7 just came out of nowhere? I
    thought you were so informed, heh, you're a fucktard.

    all he knows is snit
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 20:51:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-07-04, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
    On 2025-07-04, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the kind of insanity the idiot Left is reduced to these days. Any >>>>disagreement with their stupid agenda and you're a "hater," not worthy of >>>>life — something akin to sub-human cattle or "goyim" — as the Israelis refer
    to the others like the Gazans.

    With people like you who collect used laptops to put Mint on, but
    can't read a peanut butter ingredient list for years, being on the
    right, I dare say we should vote against what you believe.

    The system was never intended to handle 12,000 migrants per day like
    what happened under Joe Biden.
    <https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/12000-migrants-cross-southern-border-in-a-single-day-tuesday-highest-total-ever-sources/>

    As for people in the US supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and so forth, these people
    are at best useful idiots.

    LBGTQ+ for Gaza?

    You can't be serious.
    A person like you Joel and your boyfriend wouldn't last a day in that
    part of the world before you got tossed off of the roof of the tallest structure.
    Do me a favor if you will, take snit along with you.
    Make sure he talks a lot.
    ROTFLMAO


    Blah blah blah. You righttards come up with the most cockamamie
    excuses for your hell-bound idiocy, I don't care what would happen to
    me in Gaza because I'm more worried about both U.S. parties arming
    Kikeland, to go to war with peasants, when it was kikes who started
    the conflict. Or did you think 10/7 just came out of nowhere? I
    thought you were so informed, heh, you're a fucktard.

    Ahh, so you are an antisemite, Jew hater.
    Does snit know this?
    He's forever trying to accuse me of being one but I'm not.
    Hey, he's your friend, not mine, so you might want to clue him in.

    As for Middle East wars, they have been going on for centuries and will probably never be settled until the world comes to an end.
    Hey, since you claim to be Jesus Christ, could you share that date
    with the rest of us?

    As for cockamamie excuses, it's a fact that radical Islam has no place for homosexuals, alcohol, etc. And radical Islam is in charge over there at the moment.
    Sure, some offshoots of Islam tolerate homosexuality, transgenderism and such just
    as some sects of Christianity accept the same.

    I do not judge.
    At some point you will meet your maker and then you can deal with that on your own.
    For now, my advice is to not be a useful idiot and support terrorist organizations like
    Hamas.
    Oh and remember that the current regime was approved and elected by some 80% of the people
    so they have only themselves to blame.

    P.S. If you decide to take snit along on your trip to Gaza, I offer to pay his airfare.
    --
    pothead

    36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
    the *Snit (AKA Michael Glasser)*, this should not be done. He
    will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
    need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
    set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
    pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
    engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
    you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004 <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 17:07:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    At some point you will meet your maker and then you can deal with that on your own.


    What makes you think he gives a crap about my love life? If anything,
    he destined me for it.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
    United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
    protection of the laws.

    Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
    liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jul 5 01:27:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 16:23:51 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in <itdg6k5gv2cb6hkdqs5un4srt0ju37d5gb@4ax.com>:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
    On 2025-07-04, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the kind of insanity the idiot Left is reduced to these days. >>>>Any disagreement with their stupid agenda and you're a "hater," not >>>>worthy of life — something akin to sub-human cattle or "goyim" — as >>>>the Israelis refer to the others like the Gazans.

    With people like you who collect used laptops to put Mint on, but
    can't read a peanut butter ingredient list for years, being on the
    right, I dare say we should vote against what you believe.

    The system was never intended to handle 12,000 migrants per day like
    what happened under Joe Biden.

    <https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/12000-migrants-cross-southern-border- in-a-single-day-tuesday-highest-total-ever-sources/>

    As for people in the US supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas
    and so forth, these people are at best useful idiots.

    LBGTQ+ for Gaza?

    You can't be serious.
    A person like you Joel and your boyfriend wouldn't last a day in that
    part of the world before you got tossed off of the roof of the tallest >>structure.
    Do me a favor if you will, take snit along with you.
    Make sure he talks a lot.
    ROTFLMAO


    Blah blah blah. You righttards come up with the most cockamamie excuses
    for your hell-bound idiocy, I don't care what would happen to me in Gaza because I'm more worried about both U.S. parties arming Kikeland, to go
    to war with peasants, when it was kikes who started the conflict. Or
    did you think 10/7 just came out of nowhere? I thought you were so
    informed, heh, you're a fucktard.

    I'm calling you out again, Joel. Using an ethnic slur to describe
    Israel implies that criticism of the Israeli government is, somehow, "antisemitic". The ethnic slur is *uncalled for*.

    Smart people know they aren't the same, and plenty of U.S. Jews are
    disgusted with where zionism has gone.

    And this has fsck-all to do with Linux in the first place.
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.15.4 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 Mem: 258G
    "Another great idea from the man who brought you Beer Milkshake"
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 22:06:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    Blah blah blah. You righttards come up with the most cockamamie excuses
    for your hell-bound idiocy, I don't care what would happen to me in Gaza
    because I'm more worried about both U.S. parties arming Kikeland, to go
    to war with peasants, when it was kikes who started the conflict. Or
    did you think 10/7 just came out of nowhere? I thought you were so
    informed, heh, you're a fucktard.

    I'm calling you out again, Joel. Using an ethnic slur to describe
    Israel implies that criticism of the Israeli government is, somehow, >"antisemitic". The ethnic slur is *uncalled for*.

    Smart people know they aren't the same, and plenty of U.S. Jews are
    disgusted with where zionism has gone.

    And this has fsck-all to do with Linux in the first place.


    If the West Bank settlers are part of Israel, I feel justified in
    invoking race, and the Palestinians they attacked probably appreciate
    that I've paid at least a little attention, and seen long before
    Oct. 7th that there was the beginnings of a huge scale in war, and
    Israel has ultimately held to their blame of Iran and bombed them to
    hell. DJT is on his own in having attacked Iran. My goal would be to
    tone down U.S.-Israel trade while being more open to global trade
    where we have such interests, eventually if Netanyahu concedes guilt
    in the two wars, we might fully recognize Israel again, or he is
    criminally charged by Israel.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
    United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
    protection of the laws.

    Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
    liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.os.linux.advocacy,dumb.ass.democrats.america.hating.assholes,talk.politics.guns on Sat Jul 5 18:28:15 2025
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    On Jul 4, 2025 at 10:09:18 AM MST, "Rudy Canoza" wrote <20250704.190918.abbc1aa5@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>:

    On 03 Jul 2025, Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> posted some news:68669b6e$1$4125$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    On Jul 2, 2025 at 11:02:30 PM MST, "Anonymous" wrote
    <10456dm$2lde4$1@news.tcpreset.net>:

    Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Jul 2, 2025 at 7:02:13 PM MST, ""Sgt. Joe Friday"" wrote
    <xn0p7tvly3n3adh000@usnews.blocknews.net>:

    Itamar Lichtman wrote:

    So I live in Boston MA and suffer from AFIB so I am on blood
    thinners, Plavix and Xarelto.
    This means when I get a cut or nose bleed it can sometimes be
    difficult to stop due to my blood not clotting due to the blood
    thinners.

    So this afternoon out of the blue I started bleeding from my nose. >>>>>> I've had this before and was taught how to stop the bleeding with
    pressure and a spray I have.
    This time was different as there was a LOT of blood and nothing
    was working.
    So my wife took me to the local ER before I bled out.

    I could not believe what I saw.
    It was like a fucking third world nation.
    No place to sit because migrants with seemingly endless numbers of >>>>>> kids were taking up all of the seats.
    And then they were yapping away in Spanish, I think, but none of
    them actually looked sick to me.

    So fortunately triage worked and I was taken in quickly, blood
    soaked towel and all. I was treated and the doctor was able to
    cauterize the wound and stop the bleeding.

    So once I calmed down I asked the nurse wtf was going on with the
    waiting room and people seemingly not needing ER type care?
    She gave me this look and unloaded on me.

    Turns out, while I had to prove insurance, ID cards, coverage,
    deductible and such, the majority of the people in the ER waiting
    room did not.

    And the final blow was when I learned that these people use the ER >>>>>> as their PC for sniffles and so forth !!!

    So WTF is going on with this country?

    You tell me.

    Be thankful you don't live in the welfare state California.
    Our schools, medical facilities, homeless shelters and streets are
    flooded with these parasites and as soon as I retire from the PD
    I'm outta here.
    My wife is a teacher and she tells me everyday about students
    enrolling in the school who cannot speak English and require
    special ed. And while this has always been the case, the current
    numbers are far larger than in the past and the multitude of
    various different native languages is great and makes it even more
    difficult to assist these students.

    I'm sick of this shit and so are many others here in CA.
    I pay 1000's into health insurance each year and even though I
    rarely make claims, when I or my wife do it's always the same run
    around with the insurance company trying to deny claims.
    Yet people who climbed across the fence get it all for free, at
    least in CA.
    This is disgusting.
    The system here in the US is not designed to handle millions of
    illegal border jumpers that Biden welcomed into the country.

    Wow. There's a lot to unpack in this stew of resentment,
    misinformation, and outright dehumanization. Let's start with the
    language: calling human beings "parasites" is not just vile -- it's
    the kind of rhetoric used to justify cruelty, neglect, and worse. If
    you're that comfortable dehumanizing kids and families trying to
    survive, you might want to take a long look in the mirror before
    ranting about "what's disgusting."

    Some "people" DESERVE to be dehumanized.

    Racists such as yourself are as close as I can think of.

    You complain about California being a "welfare state" while ignoring
    that it's also the fifth largest economy in the world -- in no small
    part because of immigrant labor and a diverse population. The state
    subsidizes many of the red states that love to bash it while cashing
    the federal checks its economy helps fund.

    Myth.

    Nope.

    California's economy:
    "California is now the 4th largest economy in the world" - CA
    Governor's office (Apr 23, 2025)
    https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/04/23/california-is-now-the-4th-largest-eco
    nomy-in-the-world

    Doesn't matter what their economy is if they can't pay their bills.

    "California’s total long-term debt, between the state and local governments, has quietly surged to over half a trillion dollars, making it the most indebted state in the nation. The state’s debt problem is largely due to rapid growth in unfunded liabilities for pension and health care retirement benefits already promised to public workers."

    https://reason.org/commentary/californias-state-and-local-government-debt- is-over-500-billion/

    What states pay in more than they do?
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2