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On more than one occasion, on more than one url, on my Android phone, I
have tried to turn off the screen but continue to play the audio.
Instead, when the screen goes blank the audio stopped too. Is this
likely to be universal? Is there a way around it?

I want to save the battery, I'm walking and can't look at the screen
anyhow, and with NBC news, the video just showed a talking head.

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On 9/30/25 12:01 PM, micky wrote:

On more than one occasion, on more than one url, on my Android phone, I
have tried to turn off the screen but continue to play the audio.
Instead, when the screen goes blank the audio stopped too. Is this
likely to be universal? Is there a way around it?

I want to save the battery, I'm walking and can't look at the screen
anyhow, and with NBC news, the video just showed a talking head.

Try using an Android radio app. For example iHeart has an NBC news channel
and it will run with the screen off. Same with several of the other free
Android radio apps. Many with hundreds (thousands?) of world wide stations
to choose from...


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micky, 2025-09-30 21:01:

On more than one occasion, on more than one url, on my Android phone, I
have tried to turn off the screen but continue to play the audio.
Instead, when the screen goes blank the audio stopped too. Is this
likely to be universal? Is there a way around it?

No, it depends on the software you use. Many audioplayers continue to
play even with the screen turned off. Also RVX - an alternative YouTube
client - also continues to output audio when turning of the screen.

I want to save the battery, I'm walking and can't look at the screen
anyhow, and with NBC news, the video just showed a talking head.

Radio Garden may be your friend. Or Musicolet.
--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de
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Arno Welzel wrote:

On more than one occasion, on more than one url, on my Android phone, I
have tried to turn off the screen but continue to play the audio.
Instead, when the screen goes blank the audio stopped too. Is this
likely to be universal? Is there a way around it?

No, it depends on the software you use. Many audioplayers continue to
play even with the screen turned off. Also RVX - an alternative YouTube client - also continues to output audio when turning of the screen.

I want to save the battery, I'm walking and can't look at the screen
anyhow, and with NBC news, the video just showed a talking head.

Radio Garden may be your friend. Or Musicolet.

I agree with Arno that it depends on the software you use to play.

For example, I'm in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber daily (which is essentially
a 5oo-gallon propane tank) where I listen to documentaries over a speaker.

Since it's two hours a day where you can't bring a single thing inside the chamber, they pipe whatever you want from outside into the propane tank.

To generate hours-long audio, I wrote a tutorial on the Windows newsgroup
for converting anything to an audio file (e.g., epub or any pdf text).
*Tutorial: Convert any ebook or text to audiobook spoken English*
<https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/comp.mobile.android/thread/133555>

Once it's an audio file (e.g., OPUS is a good format for audio books), then
all you need is a player that supports background audio/video playing.

For example, VLC on Android supports background playback for audio files.
VLC: Settings > Video > Play videos in background.

On Android VLC, you can also choose to play a video as audio (essentially ignoring the video stream) & then it plays in the background.

Same with iOS, where VLC doesnot natively support video playback with the screen off unless the video is treated as audio.

If you're listening to YouTube video streams, NewPipe also allows the
screen to blank while still playing the video and audio streams.

Interestingly, that's a "YouTube Premium" feature you get for free!

BTW, if you do this while you're locked inside a propane tank, bear in mind that if you forget to turn off battery optimization, you're screwed.

Ask me how I know this...
<https://i.postimg.cc/Lsjs3tj8/hyperbaric01.jpg> hyperbaric oxygen chamber

Looking things up, these supposedly play video/audio in the background:
VLC, NewPipe/LibreTube, Musicolet, MX Player & even the Brave Browser.
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In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 1 Oct 2025 19:01:59 -0000 (UTC), Marion <marionf@fact.com> wrote:

Arno Welzel wrote:

On more than one occasion, on more than one url, on my Android phone, I
have tried to turn off the screen but continue to play the audio.
Instead, when the screen goes blank the audio stopped too. Is this
likely to be universal? Is there a way around it?

No, it depends on the software you use. Many audioplayers continue to
play even with the screen turned off. Also RVX - an alternative YouTube
client - also continues to output audio when turning of the screen.

I want to save the battery, I'm walking and can't look at the screen
anyhow, and with NBC news, the video just showed a talking head.

Radio Garden may be your friend. Or Musicolet.

I will look into these, and the one AJL suggested.

On one occasions they were university lectures, hosted on the university domain, which I doubt any other website would carry. Coincidentally, I
was at a hamfest and wanted to walk around. But most times are likely
to be elsewhere too. More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking
about that.

I agree with Arno that it depends on the software you use to play.

For example, I'm in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber daily (which is essentially
a 5oo-gallon propane tank) where I listen to documentaries over a speaker.

Wow, I'm sorry you're stuck in that tank. I hope it's temporary, or if
not that the other 22 hours are enough to make the 2 hours worth while.

The closest I've come is 50 minutes in an MRI. and I didn't like that
much and it's only once a year or so, not every day. Good luck.

I red what follows and I'll try to apply it.

Since it's two hours a day where you can't bring a single thing inside the >chamber, they pipe whatever you want from outside into the propane tank.

To generate hours-long audio, I wrote a tutorial on the Windows newsgroup
for converting anything to an audio file (e.g., epub or any pdf text).
*Tutorial: Convert any ebook or text to audiobook spoken English* <https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/comp.mobile.android/thread/133555>

Once it's an audio file (e.g., OPUS is a good format for audio books), then >all you need is a player that supports background audio/video playing.

For example, VLC on Android supports background playback for audio files.
VLC: Settings > Video > Play videos in background.

On Android VLC, you can also choose to play a video as audio (essentially >ignoring the video stream) & then it plays in the background.

Same with iOS, where VLC doesnot natively support video playback with the >screen off unless the video is treated as audio.

If you're listening to YouTube video streams, NewPipe also allows the
screen to blank while still playing the video and audio streams.

Interestingly, that's a "YouTube Premium" feature you get for free!

BTW, if you do this while you're locked inside a propane tank, bear in mind >that if you forget to turn off battery optimization, you're screwed.

Ask me how I know this...
<https://i.postimg.cc/Lsjs3tj8/hyperbaric01.jpg> hyperbaric oxygen chamber

Looking things up, these supposedly play video/audio in the background:
VLC, NewPipe/LibreTube, Musicolet, MX Player & even the Brave Browser.

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micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking
about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called "Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays
video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play".

You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>
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On 10/3/25 7:34 PM, Marion wrote:

micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking
about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play >without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your >question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called >"Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays
video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play".

You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>

Since I have always used radio apps I don't need to use a browser. But I
just tried 2 radio stations (local KTAR and Bloomberg Boston) using a
Chrome browser on 3 devices (my Samsung Galaxy S10+ phone, an ONN Android
tablet, and this DEZLTID Android tablet) and they all worked with the
screen off. Question is how long they will stay on. IIRC the websites
turned themselves off after awhile. So I have one now running on my ONN
tablet and will check back with the result...


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On 10/3/25 8:10 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 7:34 PM, Marion wrote:

micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking
about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play >>without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your >>question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called >>"Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays >>video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play".

You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>

Since I have always used radio apps I don't need to use a browser. But I
just tried 2 radio stations (local KTAR and Bloomberg Boston) using a
Chrome browser on 3 devices (my Samsung Galaxy S10+ phone, an ONN Android tablet, and this DEZLTID Android tablet) and they all worked with the
screen off. Question is how long they will stay on. IIRC the websites
turned themselves off after awhile. So I have one now running on my ONN tablet and will check back with the result.

Well the tablet screen has been off for over an hour now and the station is
still playing. So apparently the Chrome browser will work also. I'm
listening to KTAR on <tuner.bonneville.com>. This may not be true of all
radio websites. You will have to play around a bit to get what you want but
it appears you should be able to (unless your device is the problem). Good
luck micky...

BTW the iHeart Android app I mentioned earlier with NBC news also has a
website: <www.iheart.com>.


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On 10/3/25 9:35 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 8:10 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 7:34 PM, Marion wrote:

micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking
about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play >>>without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your >>>question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called >>>"Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays >>>video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play".

You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>

Since I have always used radio apps I don't need to use a browser. But I
just tried 2 radio stations (local KTAR and Bloomberg Boston) using a
Chrome browser on 3 devices (my Samsung Galaxy S10+ phone, an ONN Android
tablet, and this DEZLTID Android tablet) and they all worked with the
screen off. Question is how long they will stay on. IIRC the websites
turned themselves off after awhile. So I have one now running on my ONN
tablet and will check back with the result.

Well the tablet screen has been off for over an hour now and the station is
still playing. So apparently the Chrome browser will work also. I'm
listening to KTAR on <tuner.bonneville.com>. This may not be true of all radio websites. You will have to play around a bit to get what you want but it appears you should be able to (unless your device is the problem). Good luck micky...

BTW the iHeart Android app I mentioned earlier with NBC news also has a
website: <www.iheart.com>.

I just tried the web KTAR on this Chrome tablet and it quits with screen off
thus the problem is the device in this case...


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On 10/4/25 12:01 AM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 9:35 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 8:10 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 7:34 PM, Marion wrote:

micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking >>>>> about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play >>>>without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your >>>>question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called >>>>"Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays >>>>video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play".

You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>

Since I have always used radio apps I don't need to use a browser. But I
just tried 2 radio stations (local KTAR and Bloomberg Boston) using a
Chrome browser on 3 devices (my Samsung Galaxy S10+ phone, an ONN Android >>> tablet, and this DEZLTID Android tablet) and they all worked with the
screen off. Question is how long they will stay on. IIRC the websites
turned themselves off after awhile. So I have one now running on my ONN
tablet and will check back with the result.

Well the tablet screen has been off for over an hour now and the station is >> still playing. So apparently the Chrome browser will work also. I'm
listening to KTAR on <tuner.bonneville.com>. This may not be true of all
radio websites. You will have to play around a bit to get what you want but >> it appears you should be able to (unless your device is the problem). Good >> luck micky...

BTW the iHeart Android app I mentioned earlier with NBC news also has a
website: <www.iheart.com>.

I just tried the web KTAR on this Chrome tablet and it quits with screen off
thus the problem is the device in this case...

Correction. It is NOT the device (my Chrome OS tablet) in this case. I again
tried the web KTAR using a downloaded Android Firefox app and it DOES
continue playing with the screen off. So the built in Chrome OS browser
fails but the downloaded Android Firefox browser on the same device works.
It gets weirder and weirder. Anyway you now have another browser to try:
Firefox...

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On 10/4/25 8:18 AM, AJL wrote:

On 10/4/25 12:01 AM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 9:35 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 8:10 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 7:34 PM, Marion wrote:

micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking >>>>>> about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play >>>>>without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your
question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called >>>>>"Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays >>>>>video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play". >>>>>
You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>

Since I have always used radio apps I don't need to use a browser. But I >>>> just tried 2 radio stations (local KTAR and Bloomberg Boston) using a
Chrome browser on 3 devices (my Samsung Galaxy S10+ phone, an ONN Android >>>> tablet, and this DEZLTID Android tablet) and they all worked with the
screen off. Question is how long they will stay on. IIRC the websites
turned themselves off after awhile. So I have one now running on my ONN >>>> tablet and will check back with the result.

Well the tablet screen has been off for over an hour now and the station is >>> still playing. So apparently the Chrome browser will work also. I'm
listening to KTAR on <tuner.bonneville.com>. This may not be true of all >>> radio websites. You will have to play around a bit to get what you want but >>> it appears you should be able to (unless your device is the problem). Good >>> luck micky...

BTW the iHeart Android app I mentioned earlier with NBC news also has a
website: <www.iheart.com>.

I just tried the web KTAR on this Chrome tablet and it quits with screen off >> thus the problem is the device in this case...

Correction. It is NOT the device (my Chrome OS tablet) in this case. I again
tried the web KTAR using a downloaded Android Firefox app and it DOES continue playing with the screen off. So the built in Chrome OS browser
fails but the downloaded Android Firefox browser on the same device works.
It gets weirder and weirder. Anyway you now have another browser to try: Firefox...

I was watching NBC news live VIDEO <nbcnews.com/watch#new-york> on this
DEZLTID Android tablet using the Chrome browser. I turned off the screen
and the audio continued. I believe this is the way you (micky) wanted it to
work. So give the Chrome browser a try if nothing else works. A surprising
thing to me is that as I am writing this using my PhoNews newsreader I'm
still hearing that NBC station in the background!! I guess that capability
could be handy? I had no clue it could do that. Thanks micky...
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AJL wrote:

I just tried the web KTAR on this Chrome tablet and it quits with screen off >>> thus the problem is the device in this case...

Correction. It is NOT the device (my Chrome OS tablet) in this case. I again >> tried the web KTAR using a downloaded Android Firefox app and it DOES
continue playing with the screen off. So the built in Chrome OS browser
fails but the downloaded Android Firefox browser on the same device works. >> It gets weirder and weirder. Anyway you now have another browser to try:
Firefox...

I was watching NBC news live VIDEO <nbcnews.com/watch#new-york> on this
DEZLTID Android tablet using the Chrome browser. I turned off the screen
and the audio continued. I believe this is the way you (micky) wanted it to
work. So give the Chrome browser a try if nothing else works. A surprising
thing to me is that as I am writing this using my PhoNews newsreader I'm
still hearing that NBC station in the background!! I guess that capability
could be handy? I had no clue it could do that. Thanks micky...

When I'm playing audio in the background, I can make & receive phone calls.
The audio cuts out, and the phone call takes over. When I hang up, the
audio plays again (I'm listening to a biography of Charles De Gaulle).

I thank you, for the team, for testing this feature out for micky and the
rest of us lurking. It seems each of us just needs to find one app that we
like that plays in the background, where you've shown many of them do.
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In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 4 Oct 2025 17:39:22 -0000 (UTC), AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

On 10/4/25 8:18 AM, AJL wrote:

On 10/4/25 12:01 AM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 9:35 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 8:10 PM, AJL wrote:

On 10/3/25 7:34 PM, Marion wrote:

micky wrote:

More importantly, you all made clear that I
can't get around it using the url I was using. So i'll stop thinking >>>>>>> about that.

I think you may be giving up too soonly if you say it that way.

I didn't try it on my Android (because I use NewPipe & VLC which can play >>>>>>without the screen turned on) but the research I did before I answered your
question showed that Brave, on Android, has a feature (apparently called >>>>>>"Background Play"), which is enabled by default, which supposedly plays >>>>>>video & audio with the Android screen turned off.

It's apparently located in Brave "Settings > Media > Background Play". >>>>>>
You can install the Android Brave APK from here.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.browser>

Since I have always used radio apps I don't need to use a browser. But I >>>>> just tried 2 radio stations (local KTAR and Bloomberg Boston) using a >>>>> Chrome browser on 3 devices (my Samsung Galaxy S10+ phone, an ONN Android >>>>> tablet, and this DEZLTID Android tablet) and they all worked with the >>>>> screen off. Question is how long they will stay on. IIRC the websites >>>>> turned themselves off after awhile. So I have one now running on my ONN >>>>> tablet and will check back with the result.

Well the tablet screen has been off for over an hour now and the station is >>>> still playing. So apparently the Chrome browser will work also. I'm
listening to KTAR on <tuner.bonneville.com>. This may not be true of all >>>> radio websites. You will have to play around a bit to get what you want but
it appears you should be able to (unless your device is the problem). Good >>>> luck micky...

BTW the iHeart Android app I mentioned earlier with NBC news also has a >>>> website: <www.iheart.com>.

I just tried the web KTAR on this Chrome tablet and it quits with screen off >>> thus the problem is the device in this case...

Correction. It is NOT the device (my Chrome OS tablet) in this case. I again >> tried the web KTAR using a downloaded Android Firefox app and it DOES
continue playing with the screen off. So the built in Chrome OS browser
fails but the downloaded Android Firefox browser on the same device works. >> It gets weirder and weirder. Anyway you now have another browser to try:
Firefox...

I was watching NBC news live VIDEO <nbcnews.com/watch#new-york> on this
DEZLTID Android tablet using the Chrome browser. I turned off the screen
and the audio continued. I believe this is the way you (micky) wanted it to work. So give the Chrome browser a try if nothing else works. A surprising thing to me is that as I am writing this using my PhoNews newsreader I'm still hearing that NBC station in the background!! I guess that capability could be handy? I had no clue it could do that. Thanks micky...

YW. And TY for the encouraging report on FF. I have two browsers on
the phone, the one that it came with (xiaimi) and FF, and use them
alternately . I don't remember which I was using when I had the first
problem. Ordinarily I don't want to listen to anything at a hamfest,
but this was live and a friend recommended it, and I wanted to be able
to tell him I'd listened, but I didn't want to sit still for an hour at
the hamfest. But there are more occasions when I want to listen and
not watch. I will try all the combinations and see what works for me.
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