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    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Thu Oct 2 06:24:55 2025
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    Some developers have created smartphone apps which allow Efc|Efc+ users to track the movements of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
    agents -- you know, the ones who are rounding up people in the US whom
    they think shouldnrCOt be in the country, whether they are there legally
    or not <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lxwxnnx2zo>.

    Naturally the Trump regime is not keen on this, and is looking for
    ways to shut the apps down. But are they that different from the use
    of, say, police radio scanners, which allow ordinary citizens to keep
    track of the movements of law enforcement? That has already been ruled
    legal.
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to comp.misc on Fri Oct 3 07:39:02 2025
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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Some developers have created smartphone apps which allow ?? users to
    track the movements of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
    agents -- you know, the ones who are rounding up people in the US whom
    they think shouldn't be in the country, whether they are there legally
    or not <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lxwxnnx2zo>.

    Naturally the Trump regime is not keen on this, and is looking for
    ways to shut the apps down. But are they that different from the use
    of, say, police radio scanners, which allow ordinary citizens to keep
    track of the movements of law enforcement? That has already been ruled
    legal.

    I think I've read that in some jurisdictions decrypting police
    radio (now it's all gone digital) can be illegal. Hence some SDR
    software deliberately omits that ability. My hobby of listening to
    the cops died when they went digital. :(

    Anyway the cops were aware that the radio transmissions were public
    and often shared mobile numbers in order to discuss matters
    privately.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Thu Oct 2 21:53:11 2025
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    On 3 Oct 2025 07:39:02 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

    I think I've read that in some jurisdictions decrypting police
    radio (now it's all gone digital) can be illegal.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Fri Oct 3 20:39:02 2025
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    On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 06:24:55 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    Naturally the Trump regime is not keen on this, and is looking for
    ways to shut the apps down.

    Aaaand ... Apple has given in to US Government pressure, and banned
    the app from its Store <https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/3/apple-pulls-iceblock-from-app-store-following-us-government-pressure>.

    This is the same Apple that is refusing UK Government demands to
    weaken its encryption. Does rCLInternet lawrCY mean rCLUS lawrCY?
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Fri Oct 3 21:01:54 2025
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    On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 20:39:02 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    Aaaand ... Apple has given in to US Government pressure, and banned
    the app from its Store

    Et tu, Google? <https://www.theverge.com/news/791533/google-apple-ice-tracking-app-store-red-dot-iceblock>
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  • From John McCue@jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Oct 4 19:28:35 2025
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    Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 06:24:55 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    Naturally the Trump regime is not keen on this, and is looking for
    ways to shut the apps down.

    Aaaand ... Apple has given in to US Government pressure, and banned
    the app from its Store <https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/3/apple-pulls-iceblock-from-app-store-following-us-government-pressure>.

    This is the same Apple that is refusing UK Government demands to
    weaken its encryption. Does ?Internet law? mean ?US law??

    Apple (and google) are US based Companies, so they are very
    afraid of opposing Trump. Plus Cook and Pichai (probably)
    are BFFs with Trump. Also Google is trying to avoid a split
    up, so they need to pay somehow.

    Since the are not based in the UK, Apple told "UK where to
    go". The most UK can do to Apple and Google is ban them.
    In the US, Trump can drag them into court and cost them lots
    of $. We all know corporations only care about $.
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