• life after consent banners

    From Retrograde@fungus@amongus.com.invalid to comp.misc on Thu Sep 25 14:09:53 2025
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    Title: Europe's Cookie Law Messed Up the Internet. Brussels Wants To Fix It. Author: feedback@slashdot.org
    Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 23:32:00 +0000
    Link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/09/24/2021235/europes-cookie-law-messed-up-the-internet-brussels-wants-to-fix-it?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

    In a bid to slash red tape, the European Commission wants to eliminate one of its peskiest laws: a 2009 tech rule that plastered the online world with pop-ups requesting consent to cookies. From a report: It's the kind of simplification ordinary Europeans can get behind. European rulemakers in 2009 revised a law called the e-Privacy Directive to require websites to get consent from users before loading cookies on their devices, unless the cookies are "strictly necessary" to provide a service. Fast forward to 2025 and the internet is full of consent banners that users have long learned to click away without thinking twice. "Too much consent basically kills consent. People are used to giving consent for everything, so they might stop reading things in as much detail, and if consent is the default for everything, it's no longer perceived in the same way by users," said Peter Craddock, data lawyer with Keller and Heckman. Cookie technology is now a focal point of the EU executive's plans to simplify technology regulation. Officials want to present an "omnibus" text in December, scrapping burdensome requirements on digital companies. On Monday, it held a meeting with the tech industry to discuss the handling of cookies and consent banners.

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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to comp.misc on Thu Sep 25 15:46:17 2025
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    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:
    Link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/09/24/2021235/europes-cookie-law-messed-up-the-internet-brussels-wants-to-fix-it?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

    In a bid to slash red tape, the European Commission wants to eliminate one of its peskiest laws: a 2009 tech rule that plastered the online world with pop-ups requesting consent to cookies.

    FWIW, those cookie banners are an example of "Malicious Compliance": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance

    The 2009 law did not require "cookie banners" in any way shape or form.

    The cookie banners were nothing more than "compliance, in the most
    irritating way possible" to try to get most users to pressure the
    lawmakers to change the law.

    Looks like it took a while, but that "get users to pressure the
    lawmakers" part has finally worked.

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  • From Retrograde@fungus@amongus.com.invalid to comp.misc on Thu Sep 25 18:57:19 2025
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    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 15:46:17 -0000 (UTC)
    Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

    FWIW, those cookie banners are an example of "Malicious Compliance":

    Yes, 100% agree. Like those guys who pay their back alimony payments in rolls of pennies, just to annoy the ex-wife.

    Looks like it took a while, but that "get users to pressure the
    lawmakers" part has finally worked.

    I really hope so. Those stupid banners are ridiculous, useless, and
    annoying. Ever get one where the choices are "agree to choking on our
    donkey shit" or "manage cookies" where "Manage" takes you to a
    management console, which is an enormous admin/bureaucracy time waster
    with tons of options. Dicks.
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  • From Jim Jackson@jj@franjam.org.uk to comp.misc on Fri Sep 26 11:23:15 2025
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    On 2025-09-26, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 15:46:17 -0000 (UTC)
    Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

    FWIW, those cookie banners are an example of "Malicious Compliance":

    Yes, 100% agree. Like those guys who pay their back alimony payments in rolls of pennies, just to annoy the ex-wife.

    Looks like it took a while, but that "get users to pressure the
    lawmakers" part has finally worked.

    I really hope so. Those stupid banners are ridiculous, useless, and
    annoying. Ever get one where the choices are "agree to choking on our
    donkey shit" or "manage cookies" where "Manage" takes you to a
    management console, which is an enormous admin/bureaucracy time waster
    with tons of options. Dicks.

    No. Usually you get taken to a form where only "necessary" cookies are
    allowed and you hit save and done.

    Ok - so who wants 1001 advertisers and third party cookies all over the
    place? It's cookie prolification in the pursuit of harvesting personal
    data that has ruined the web.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Fri Sep 26 21:31:39 2025
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    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:57:19 -0600, Retrograde wrote:

    Like those guys who pay their back alimony payments in rolls of
    pennies, just to annoy the ex-wife.

    As I recall, the concept of rCLlegal tenderrCY puts limits on the amounts involved, specifically to avoid situations like this.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Fri Sep 26 21:41:17 2025
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    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 11:23:15 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:

    On 2025-09-26, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    ... or "manage cookies" where "Manage" takes you to a management
    console, which is an enormous admin/bureaucracy time waster with
    tons of options.

    No. Usually you get taken to a form where only "necessary" cookies
    are allowed and you hit save and done.

    A lot of these sites I visit once, and donrCOt come back again. I open a private browsing window, click to agree with whatever they want, then
    when I have got what I want, I close the window and all the cookies
    are gone.
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