• interest rates steady as she goes

    From Ozix@ozix@xizo.am to aus.politics on Tue Jul 8 14:37:06 2025
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.politics on Wed Jul 9 06:50:59 2025
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    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 14:37:06 +0800, Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote:

    Who was surprised by that? Maybe the rise in house prices will be 0.1% less.

    With any luck stable rates are coming. The use of interest rates to
    stabilize and stimulate economies fail because the common people just
    factor them in. And money markets make a fortune there from.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics on Wed Jul 9 12:13:03 2025
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    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote

    Who was surprised by that? Maybe the rise in house prices will be 0.1%
    less.

    With any luck stable rates are coming.

    Very bloody unlikely given Trump'a tariffs
    stupiditys and the ukraine war and Gaza

    The use of interest rates to stabilize and stimulate economies fail

    Like hell they do when done properly

    because the common people just factor them in.

    Not even possible when you can't predict what the RBA and the US fed will
    do

    The problem is that there is no alternative and hasnt been for more than
    half a century now

    And money markets make a fortune there from.

    Even Murdoch couldnt work out how to do that
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.politics on Wed Jul 9 15:12:26 2025
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    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 12:13:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote

    Who was surprised by that? Maybe the rise in house prices will be 0.1% >>> less.

    With any luck stable rates are coming.

    Very bloody unlikely given Trump'a tariffs
    stupiditys and the ukraine war and Gaza

    There's always been a world situation. Nothing changes there.

    The use of interest rates to stabilize and stimulate economies fail

    Like hell they do when done properly

    Note that tariffs, when applied correctly, have a stabilizing effect
    on economies. Had tariffs been applied in the 1980s then the
    stampede to Asia would have been modified.
    Remember, the human life span is approx constant, as are attitudes and expectations. Too rapid changes cause problems.

    because the common people just factor them in.

    Not even possible when you can't predict what the RBA and the US fed will >do

    If companies get charged higher interest, up go their prices. Just
    the cost of doing business.

    The problem is that there is no alternative and hasnt been for more than >half a century now

    No, not since Reagan unleashed the banks.



    And money markets make a fortune there from.

    Even Murdoch couldnt work out how to do that
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics on Wed Jul 9 16:23:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote

    Who was surprised by that? Maybe the rise in house prices will be 0.1% >>>> less.

    With any luck stable rates are coming.

    Very bloody unlikely given Trump'a tariffs
    stupiditys and the ukraine war and Gaza

    There's always been a world situation. Nothing changes there.

    And there has always been the situation where the economy
    is fucked or going bananas and something needs to be done
    about that and now that the only tool available now is the
    central bank changing the interest rates, we aren't going to
    see stable interest rates

    The use of interest rates to stabilize and stimulate economies fail

    Like hell they do when done properly

    Note that tariffs, when applied correctly,have a stabilizing effect on economies.

    Bullshit they do. In spades when great depressions
    produce tariff wars, as they ALWAYS do

    Had tariffs been applied in the 1980s then the
    stampede to Asia would have been modified.

    BULLSHIT

    The stampede to asia was due to the fact that the
    asians got their act into gear and containerisation
    meant that their MUCH lower labor costs were available

    Remember, the human life span is approx constant,

    Bullshit they were in the 3rd world

    as are attitudes and expectations.

    Bullshit they are with independance and living standards

    Too rapid changes cause problems.

    Tariff cause problems, as you will discover

    because the common people just factor them in.

    Not even possible when you can't predict what theRBA and the US fed
    will do

    If companies get charged higher interest, up gotheir prices. Just the cost of doing business.

    Pity about the price of land and houses

    And lets not forget the recession we had to have

    Or how the sheep shaggers have just fucked their economy

    The problem is that there is no alternative andhasnt been for more
    than half a century now

    No, not since Reagan unleashed the banks.

    That doesnt fix a depression and actually produced
    the complete implosion of much of the banking sector

    And money markets make a fortune there from.

    Even Murdoch couldnt work out how to do that
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.politics on Tue Jul 15 14:40:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 16:23:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote

    Who was surprised by that? Maybe the rise in house prices will be 0.1% >>>>> less.

    With any luck stable rates are coming.

    Very bloody unlikely given Trump'a tariffs
    stupiditys and the ukraine war and Gaza

    There's always been a world situation. Nothing changes there.

    And there has always been the situation where the economy
    is fucked or going bananas and something needs to be done
    about that and now that the only tool available now is the
    central bank changing the interest rates, we aren't going to
    see stable interest rates

    The use of interest rates to stabilize and stimulate economies fail

    Like hell they do when done properly

    Note that tariffs, when applied correctly,have a stabilizing effect on
    economies.

    Bullshit they do. In spades when great depressions
    produce tariff wars, as they ALWAYS do

    Had tariffs been applied in the 1980s then the
    stampede to Asia would have been modified.

    BULLSHIT

    The stampede to asia was due to the fact that the
    asians got their act into gear and containerisation
    meant that their MUCH lower labor costs were available
    Funny, I thought it was due to tax havens, kickbacks, and sundry
    scams!

    Remember, the human life span is approx constant,

    Bullshit they were in the 3rd world
    What has this to do with the 3rd world?

    as are attitudes and expectations.

    Bullshit they are with independance and living standards

    Too rapid changes cause problems.

    Tariff cause problems, as you will discover
    Granted these have come a bit late, but then tariffs can be an
    expenditure and excess-profits tax.

    because the common people just factor them in.

    Not even possible when you can't predict what theRBA and the US fed
    will do

    If companies get charged higher interest, up gotheir prices. Just the
    cost of doing business.

    Pity about the price of land and houses
    Gyrating interest rates invite land speculation .

    And lets not forget the recession we had to have

    Or how the sheep shaggers have just fucked their economy
    Well, at least they have their warm woolly ewes. Or Rams.

    The problem is that there is no alternative andhasnt been for more
    than half a century now

    No, not since Reagan unleashed the banks.

    That doesnt fix a depression and actually produced
    the complete implosion of much of the banking sector
    ...uh wot? When?

    And money markets make a fortune there from.

    Even Murdoch couldnt work out how to do that
    Soros?
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics on Tue Jul 15 17:21:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote

    Who was surprised by that? Maybe the rise in house prices will be >>>>>> 0.1% less.

    With any luck stable rates are coming.

    Very bloody unlikely given Trump'a tariffs
    stupiditys and the ukraine war and Gaza

    There's always been a world situation. Nothing changes there.

    And there has always been the situation where the economy
    is fucked or going bananas and something needs to be done
    about that and now that the only tool available now is the
    central bank changing the interest rates, we aren't going to
    see stable interest rates

    The use of interest rates to stabilize and stimulate economies fail

    Like hell they do when done properly

    Note that tariffs, when applied correctly,have a stabilizing effect on
    economies.

    Bullshit they do. In spades when great depressions
    produce tariff wars, as they ALWAYS do

    Had tariffs been applied in the 1980s then the
    stampede to Asia would have been modified.

    BULLSHIT

    The stampede to asia was due to the fact that the
    asians got their act into gear and containerisation
    meant that their MUCH lower labor costs were available

    Funny, I thought it was due to tax havens, kickbacks, and sundry
    scams!

    More fool you, it was in fact due to MUCH lower labor costs

    Remember, the human life span is approx constant,

    Bullshit they were in the 3rd world

    What has this to do with the 3rd world?

    That's where the human lifespan changed radically

    as are attitudes and expectations.

    Bullshit they are with independance and living standards

    Too rapid changes cause problems.

    Tariffs cause problems, as you will discover

    Granted these have come a bit late, but then tariffscan be an
    expenditure and excess-profits tax.

    Bullahir

    because the common people just factor them in.

    Not even possible when you can't predict what the
    RBA and the US fed will do

    If companies get charged higher interest, up go
    their prices. Just the cost of doing business.

    Pity about the price of land and houses

    Gyrating interest rates invite land speculation .

    More bullshit and those dont gyrate anyway

    And lets not forget the recession we had to have

    Or how the sheep shaggers have just fucked their economy

    Well, at least they have their warm woolly ewes. Or Rams.

    The problem is that there is no alternative and
    hasnt been for more than half a century now

    No, not since Reagan unleashed the banks.

    That doesnt fix a depression and actually produced
    the complete implosion of much of the banking sector

    ...uh wot? When?

    2008

    And money markets make a fortune there from.

    Even Murdoch couldnt work out how to do that

    Soros?

    That's not how he did it
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