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It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?
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On 1/10/2025 3:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

I think the end of usenet started with the arrival of social media..
facebook, insta, skype...

I recently had issues with thunderbird and/or Astraweb, and after 30
years i was thinking is it worth while sorting out? I load up
Thunderbird maybe once a week.. more often than not, there's nothing of
value to read...

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keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,
Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.
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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,
Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.

I'll have to switch to a new server. who do you recommend?
--
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Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet? >> Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,

Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.

I'll have to switch to a new server. who do you recommend?

You have 2 years to decide on alternatives, no need to rush these things.
While yourCOre at it, you also have ample time to reflect on the usefulness
of Usenet.

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Xeno


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keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

It will end on Sept 30 2027.

It remains to be seen if usenet will last that long

Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Its already way past its best buy date
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On 1/10/2025 8:12 pm, Rod Speed wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

It will end on Sept 30 2027.

It remains to be seen if usenet will last that long

Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Its already way past its best buy date

It was well past its *use by* date long ago and its *best before* was
decades ago.
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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On 1/10/2025 3:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Usenet ended decades ago. No small wonder it was eclipsed by *better*
and *worse* forms of social media.
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Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

It will end on Sept 30 2027.

It remains to be seen if usenet will last that long

Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Its already way past its best by date

It was well past its *use by* date long ago

Fantasy. There is no use by date

and its *best before* was decades ago.

The time is arguable
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Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote

keithr0 wrote

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for
UseNet?

Usenet ended decades ago.

Bullshit

No small wonder it was eclipsed by *better* and *worse* forms of social media.

Bullshit
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Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 1/10/2025 3:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Usenet ended decades ago. No small wonder it was eclipsed by *better*

I'm yet to see a better alternative.

and *worse* forms of social media.

Lots of those. One day I want to get around to building software
to mirror posts from common web forum platforms via NNTP. Using
them via web browsers is just intollerable. Although at least
Discourse forums can have a mailing list mode that's more usable,
except that their way of selecting which sub-forums to get mail
from is incredibly awkward.
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Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet? >> Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,

Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.

I'll have to switch to a new server. who do you recommend?

Well I'm posting from Ausics, so that's the only vote that counts
from me. I believe BlueWorld Hosting has a lot more old posts than
most servers. Ausics and Paganini don't require setting up an
account to post. It's down to your own preferences really.

Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net/
news://news.ausics.net
BlueWorld Hosting - http://www.blueworldhosting.com
news://news.blueworldhosting.com
Paganini - news://paganini.bofh.team (no website)

Since other servers come and go as well I'd suggest leaving it
until closer to the Individual.net shut-down before comparing
alternatives very closely. Your chosen replacement server might
turn out to die first.
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote

keithr0 wrote

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for
UseNet?

Usenet ended decades ago. No small wonder it was eclipsed by *better*

I'm yet to see a better alternative.

Depends on how you define better. Usenet has always
been hopeless as far as the percentage of society involved
is concerned and much too hard to setup for non techys

and *worse* forms of social media.

Lots of those. One day I want to get around to building software
to mirror posts from common web forum platforms via NNTP. Using
them via web browsers is just intollerable. Although at least
Discourse forums can have a mailing list mode that's more usable,
except that their way of selecting which sub-forums to get mail
from is incredibly awkward.

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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet? >>> Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,

Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.

I'll have to switch to a new server. who do you recommend?

Well I'm posting from Ausics, so that's the only vote that counts
from me. I believe BlueWorld Hosting has a lot more old posts than
most servers. Ausics and Paganini don't require setting up an
account to post. It's down to your own preferences really.

Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net/
news://news.ausics.net
BlueWorld Hosting - http://www.blueworldhosting.com
news://news.blueworldhosting.com
Paganini - news://paganini.bofh.team (no website)

Since other servers come and go as well I'd suggest leaving it
until closer to the Individual.net shut-down before comparing
alternatives very closely. Your chosen replacement server might
turn out to die first.

yes I know. I was asking without thinking about the time frame. we get
free usage until 30/9/27. But I'll keep those in mind anyway, thanks.
--
Linux Mint 22.2

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On 1/10/2025 6:13 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet?

Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,
Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.

For what it's worth, from memory, i joined Astraweb after Netspace
pulled their news server in 2005? I think I've paid au$30.00 in the 20
years i've been with them, so $3.00 a year is hardly a major impost, and
it appears i have 183gb of data to download, so i'd suggest that will
see me out! :-D
Currently using eternal sept, but it doesnt have the retention or the
binaries that Astraweb have. I may, or may not, get around to setting
Astraweb up again one day... I'd need to be pretty bored tho.

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On 2 Oct 2025 at 09:11:02 AEST, ""Rod Speed"" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Depends on how you define better. Usenet has always
been hopeless as far as the percentage of society involved
is concerned and much too hard to setup for non techys

I have to disagree.
The Usenet at least holds some of those selfproclaimt IT-Specialists (mainly from the MS-camp) back.

And as far as I can see there are no exactable alternatives around.

Just my 2-o

Cheers
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On 2/10/2025 1:15 pm, lindsay wrote:

On 1/10/2025 6:13 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for
UseNet?

Of course not, it's still got Ausics, Eternal September, Paganini,
Solani, BlueWorld Hosting, NNTP4.net, Agency BBS, the new Pugleaf
thing if that actually works, and plenty more for free. Then there
are the paid ones like Giganews and Astraweb for those who really
feel the need to give their money away.

For what it's worth, from memory, i joined Astraweb after Netspace
pulled their news server in 2005? I think I've paid au$30.00 in the 20
years i've been with them, so $3.00 a year

whoops. make that $1.50...

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On 2/10/2025 7:57 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 1/10/2025 3:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for UseNet? >>

Usenet ended decades ago. No small wonder it was eclipsed by *better*

I'm yet to see a better alternative.

and *worse* forms of social media.

Lots of those. One day I want to get around to building software
to mirror posts from common web forum platforms via NNTP. Using
them via web browsers is just intollerable. Although at least
Discourse forums can have a mailing list mode that's more usable,
except that their way of selecting which sub-forums to get mail
from is incredibly awkward.

Many years ago, in the very earliest days of Usenet, a friend decided he wanted to *preserve* usenet posts in the days *before* Terabyte hard
drives. It didn't take very long at all for him to work out he couldn't
afford the storage capacity required.
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Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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On 2/10/2025 9:11 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote

keithr0 wrote

It will end on Sept 30 2027. Is this the beginning of the end for
UseNet?

Usenet ended decades ago. No small wonder it was eclipsed by *better*

I'm yet to see a better alternative.

Depends on how you define better. Usenet has always
been hopeless as far as the percentage of society involved
is concerned and much too hard to setup for non techys

Yep, it does involve a bit of tech knowhow and that kept the nuff nuffs
out, in the main. >

and *worse* forms of social media.

Lots of those. One day I want to get around to building software
to mirror posts from common web forum platforms via NNTP. Using
them via web browsers is just intollerable. Although at least
Discourse forums can have a mailing list mode that's more usable,
except that their way of selecting which sub-forums to get mail
from is incredibly awkward.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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