• SeaMonkey problem

    From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sat Sep 13 19:51:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers


    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like they
    should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does anyone know
    how to fix it? thanks,
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  • From Monsieur@Monsieur@notreal.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sat Sep 13 13:41:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does anyone know
    how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old fonts
    package and refusing updates for it. For more information read https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "


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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sun Sep 14 19:03:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like
    they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does anyone
    know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old fonts package and refusing updates for it. For more information read https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I have
    to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2
    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: Linux obeys you, Windows fights with you

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  • From Monsieur@Monsieur@notreal.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sun Sep 14 11:27:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like
    they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does anyone
    know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old fonts
    package and refusing updates for it. For more information read
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I have
    to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(


    Download this and save it:

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-ubuntu/fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Then go into the folder where you saved it, click right and choose "Open
    in terminal".

    In the terminal, type:

    sudo dpkg -i fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Enter your password and enter.

    Normally you could just double-click the deb-file, but since this is an
    old package Mint will refuse to install it. That's why you have to
    install it with sudo in the terminal.

    Hope this helps.
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  • From Monsieur@Monsieur@notreal.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sun Sep 14 11:30:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like
    they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does anyone
    know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old fonts
    package and refusing updates for it. For more information read
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I have
    to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(


    Also don't forget to refuse any updates for this package after you
    reinstalled it. As soon as it pops up in your Update Manager, right
    click and choose "refuse all future updates".
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sun Sep 14 22:46:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like
    they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does
    anyone know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while
    ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old
    fonts package and refusing updates for it. For more information read
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I
    have to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(


    Download this and save it:

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-ubuntu/fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb


    Then go into the folder where you saved it, click right and choose
    "Open in terminal".

    In the terminal, type:

    sudo dpkg -i fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Enter your password and enter.

    Normally you could just double-click the deb-file, but since this is
    an old package Mint will refuse to install it. That's why you have to install it with sudo in the terminal. Also don't forget to refuse any updates for this package after you reinstalled it. As soon as it pops
    up in your Update Manager, right click and choose "refuse all future updates".

    Hope this helps.

    yes, thanks. that worked fine. :) but how could I change back to the new
    font version (if I decide I want to) after I've chosen "refuse all
    future updates" ?
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    Linux Mint 22.2

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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Sun Sep 14 08:58:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 9/14/25 8:46 AM, Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like
    they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does
    anyone know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while
    ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old
    fonts package and refusing updates for it. For more information read
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I
    have to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(


    Download this and save it:

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-ubuntu/fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb


    Then go into the folder where you saved it, click right and choose
    "Open in terminal".

    In the terminal, type:

    sudo dpkg -i fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Enter your password and enter.

    Normally you could just double-click the deb-file, but since this is
    an old package Mint will refuse to install it. That's why you have to
    install it with sudo in the terminal. Also don't forget to refuse any
    updates for this package after you reinstalled it. As soon as it pops
    up in your Update Manager, right click and choose "refuse all future
    updates".

    Hope this helps.

    yes, thanks. that worked fine. :) but how could I change back to the new
    font version (if I decide I want to) after I've chosen "refuse all
    future updates" ?

    Go back into update manager and remove the 'refuse' and the next update will do the job.
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    Linux Mint 22.2, Thunderbird 128.14.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 142.0.1
    Alan K.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Mon Sep 15 11:09:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 22:46:20 +1000, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like
    they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does
    anyone know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while
    ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but
    they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old
    fonts package and refusing updates for it. For more information read
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I
    have to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(


    Download this and save it:

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-ubuntu/fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb


    Then go into the folder where you saved it, click right and choose
    "Open in terminal".

    In the terminal, type:

    sudo dpkg -i fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Enter your password and enter.

    Normally you could just double-click the deb-file, but since this is
    an old package Mint will refuse to install it. That's why you have to
    install it with sudo in the terminal. Also don't forget to refuse any
    updates for this package after you reinstalled it. As soon as it pops
    up in your Update Manager, right click and choose "refuse all future
    updates".

    Hope this helps.

    yes, thanks. that worked fine. :) but how could I change back to the new >font version (if I decide I want to) after I've chosen "refuse all
    future updates" ?

    That's why I'm not keen on Linux they are doing the update thing
    relentlessly changing. Almost as bad as Microsoft,
    Seems in Linux case you can halt updates (if not broken why fix it)
    Not sure what the options are for Malware/Virus APP's are?
    Used to be a hardware IP blocking unit not a software option (may of
    changed)
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Mon Sep 15 12:36:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    In aus.computers Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 22:46:20 +1000, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
    yes, thanks. that worked fine. :) but how could I change back to the new >>font version (if I decide I want to) after I've chosen "refuse all
    future updates" ?

    That's why I'm not keen on Linux they are doing the update thing
    relentlessly changing. Almost as bad as Microsoft,
    Seems in Linux case you can halt updates (if not broken why fix it)
    Not sure what the options are for Malware/Virus APP's are?
    Used to be a hardware IP blocking unit not a software option (may of
    changed)

    Debian and derivatives (inc. Ubuntu) have LTS releases which
    last five years with just security updates, so in theory without
    big changes which can cause problems like that. Some Linux kernel
    releases are supported with security updates for ten years, but
    unfortunately most distro releases aren't maintained that long.
    Debian and Ubuntu do offer ten years of security updates if you pay
    for it.

    Jumping through the intermediate versions to upgrade a dying LTS
    distro version to the latest one ready to last another five/ten
    years can be troublesome though.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Mon Sep 15 03:35:36 2025
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    On 15 Sep 2025 12:36:35 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

    Jumping through the intermediate versions to upgrade a dying LTS distro version to the latest one ready to last another five/ten years can be troublesome though.

    Debian does not skip versions for LTS, according to <https://wiki.debian.org/LTS>.
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Mon Sep 15 17:30:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Alan K. wrote:
    On 9/14/25 8:46 AM, Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like >>>>>> they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does
    anyone know how to fix it? thanks,

    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while
    ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but >>>>> they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old
    fonts package and refusing updates for it. For more information read >>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.

    "



    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I
    have to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(


    Download this and save it:

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-ubuntu/fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb



    Then go into the folder where you saved it, click right and choose
    "Open in terminal".

    In the terminal, type:

    sudo dpkg -i fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Enter your password and enter.

    Normally you could just double-click the deb-file, but since this is
    an old package Mint will refuse to install it. That's why you have to
    install it with sudo in the terminal. Also don't forget to refuse any
    updates for this package after you reinstalled it. As soon as it pops
    up in your Update Manager, right click and choose "refuse all future
    updates".

    Hope this helps.

    yes, thanks. that worked fine. :) but how could I change back to the new
    font version (if I decide I want to) after I've chosen "refuse all
    future updates" ?

    Go back into update manager and remove the 'refuse' and the next
    update will do the job.


    Ok thanks, I see that
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Mon Sep 15 18:28:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 22:46:20 +1000, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    Monsieur wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    The headers of unread newsgroup messages are not in bold text like >>>>>> they should be. It's been like this since I installed it. Does
    anyone know how to fix it? thanks,
    Yes, reinstall the old Ubuntu fonts. I had the same problem a while
    ago.
    The new fonts (thinner and "more modern") are in Mint since 22.1 but >>>>> they mess up Seamonkey. From Mint's release notes:

    "Going back to the old fonts is possible by downloading the old
    fonts package and refusing updates for it. For more information read >>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1465216/install-the-old-version-of-the-ubuntu-font.
    "


    Oh, thanks. but I looked at the link, and I'm not sure what file I
    have to download and what I have to do with it. sorry, :(

    Download this and save it:

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-ubuntu/fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb


    Then go into the folder where you saved it, click right and choose
    "Open in terminal".

    In the terminal, type:

    sudo dpkg -i fonts-ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb

    Enter your password and enter.

    Normally you could just double-click the deb-file, but since this is
    an old package Mint will refuse to install it. That's why you have to
    install it with sudo in the terminal. Also don't forget to refuse any
    updates for this package after you reinstalled it. As soon as it pops
    up in your Update Manager, right click and choose "refuse all future
    updates".

    Hope this helps.
    yes, thanks. that worked fine. :) but how could I change back to the new
    font version (if I decide I want to) after I've chosen "refuse all
    future updates" ?

    That's why I'm not keen on Linux they are doing the update thing
    relentlessly changing. Almost as bad as Microsoft,
    Seems in Linux case you can halt updates (if not broken why fix it)

    yep you're not compelled to do updates

    Not sure what the options are for Malware/Virus APP's are?

    AV software is not needed. (or even available?)

    Used to be a hardware IP blocking unit not a software option (may of
    changed)

    try a demo of Linux Mint. It's free and you don't have to install
    anything.. linuxmint.com.

    and you can customise it to be like windows.
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint,aus.computers on Mon Sep 15 18:29:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    In aus.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On 15 Sep 2025 12:36:35 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Jumping through the intermediate versions to upgrade a dying LTS distro
    version to the latest one ready to last another five/ten years can be
    troublesome though.

    Debian does not skip versions for LTS, according to <https://wiki.debian.org/LTS>.

    _They_ don't, but if you only want to upgrade every five years, by
    the time your current release ends the LTS phase, you have to jump
    some versions to the latest release. If you just upgrade to the
    next release in sequence (oldoldstable to oldstable) then its
    support period will end in only a couple more years because it's
    already gone through the first few years of support, so you're back
    to upgrading more often again.
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