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looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:37:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread
Cooks perfect toast boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)
Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay
The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)
--
Petzl
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

Cooks perfect toast

Bullshit

boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)

Dont boil eggs

I do cook most dinners except steak in the air fryer

Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay

The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)

Never get that
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:48:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

Your choice, perfect toast for me with Rye Bread and Aldi Turkish
rolls (Coles version terrible))

Cooks perfect toast

Bullshit

Your choice

boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)

Dont boil eggs

Find them handy cook four a time, use the less fresh eggs the peel
easier and extends the use by date usually gone in four days either
salad or sandwich

I do cook most dinners except steak in the air fryer

Slow cooker and Airfryer, not Steak fry pan well done
Aldi marbled Wagu, if available or nothing at all.

Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay

The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)

Never get that

Don't now either, it's a good LOUD one.
--
Petzl
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On 28 Jul 2025 at 00:48:12 BST, "Rod Speed" wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

IME they're friction fit.

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

It will dry out the bread - maybe too much. Cheese on toast, though, perfect. No more than 2 minutes.
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Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

Your choice,

Yep

perfect toast for me with Rye Bread and Aldi Turkish

rolls (Coles version terrible))

Not for me. The reason I toast the thickest slabs of
the multigrain bread that still fits in the toaster that
takes the thickest toast is because I prefer toast which
is toast on the outside and still bread in the middle.

I have always preferred toast like that, I used to call
it toast with bread in the middle when I was a little kid

Cooks perfect toast

Bullshit

Your choice

Yep

boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)

Dont boil eggs

Find them handy cook four a time, use the less fresh eggs the peel
easier and extends the use by date usually gone in four days either
salad or sandwich

I do massive great open sandwiches with the dome end of the
vertical loaf of multigrain bread from the bread machine every
4 days with cold roast lamb, chilli relish and lettuce for the
dinner on the day the loaf is made

I do cook most dinners except steak in the air fryer

Slow cooker and Airfryer, not Steak fry pan

I used those oval cast iron plates heated to stinking hot
and smoking under the grill before adding the steak

well done

You barbarian

Aldi marbled Wagu, if available or nothing at all.

Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay

The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)

Never get that

Don't now either, it's a good LOUD one.

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RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

IME they're friction fit.

Yeah, I assumed that they must be, will try
levering it off with a big blade screwdriver

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

It will dry out the bread

Yep, and that's the last thing I need

- maybe too much.

Certainly too much for me.

Cheese on toast, though, perfect.
No more than 2 minutes.

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On 28/07/2025 02:14, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:48:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Aldi marbled Wagu

LOL!

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:21:11 +0100, Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com>
wrote:

On 28/07/2025 02:14, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:48:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Aldi marbled Wagu

LOL!

Yes it's not real wagu, but the best over the gristle beef aAdi sells
--
Petzl
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:14:49 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

IME they're friction fit.

Yeah, I assumed that they must be, will try
levering it off with a big blade screwdriver

give it a LIGHT spray of WD40 24 hours before
After removal clean it off

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

It will dry out the bread

Yep, and that's the last thing I need

- maybe too much.

Certainly too much for me.

Cheese on toast, though, perfect.
No more than 2 minutes.

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:14:49 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

IME they're friction fit.

Yeah, I assumed that they must be, will try
levering it off with a big blade screwdriver

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

It will dry out the bread

Yep, and that's the last thing I need

not if you play with the Temperature and time

I find with my Air fryer 175C. 5 minutes gives different result
I use that for Turkish Roll sliced length ways (like a Sub Sandwich)
pour olive oil on base Vegemite, tomato. parmesan, chedar cheese
topping, use tooth picks to hold together, perfect for me.

- maybe too much.

Certainly too much for me.

Cheese on toast, though, perfect.
No more than 2 minutes.

--
Petzl
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

IME they're friction fit.

Yeah, I assumed that they must be, will try
levering it off with a big blade screwdriver

Turns out that it has little jaws in the inside of the handle
that grips the metal lever arm. Just needs more force and
fingers were fine, no need to a screwdriver.

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on
bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

It will dry out the bread

Yep, and that's the last thing I need

not if you play with the Temperature and time

Wrong if you don't want a biscuit like bit of toast

I find with my Air fryer 175C. 5 minutes gives different result

Yes, but nothing like the toast I want

I use that for Turkish Roll sliced length ways (like a Sub Sandwich)
pour olive oil on base Vegemite, tomato. parmesan, chedar cheese
topping, use tooth picks to hold together, perfect for me.

Nothing even remotely like the toast I want for
my breakfast for toast, marg and marmalade

- maybe too much.

Certainly too much for me.

Cheese on toast, though, perfect.
No more than 2 minutes.

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

IME they're friction fit.

Yeah, I assumed that they must be, will try
levering it off with a big blade screwdriver

give it a LIGHT spray of WD40 24 hours before

No need, just more finger pressure

After removal clean it off

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on
bread

Airfryers are hopeless for toast

It will dry out the bread

Yep, and that's the last thing I need

- maybe too much.

Certainly too much for me.

Cheese on toast, though, perfect.
No more than 2 minutes.

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On 27/07/2025 22:37, Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

You haven't mentioned which make/brand of toaster but

Yes, if there aren't any screws you should be able to lever it off.

If welding the element doesn't work you should be able to fit
replacement elements easily.
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 18:47:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, but nothing like the toast I want

I use that for Turkish Roll sliced length ways (like a Sub Sandwich)
pour olive oil on base Vegemite, tomato. parmesan, chedar cheese
topping, use tooth picks to hold together, perfect for me.

Nothing even remotely like the toast I want for
my breakfast for toast, marg and marmalade

I spoon Greek plain yogurt on my jam (berry/plum) toast
--
Petzl
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Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

what is a 'could of' toaster ?
--
Linux Mint 22.1

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Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:37:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread
Cooks perfect toast boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)

what air fryer is it?

Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay
The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)

--
Linux Mint 22.1

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On 27/07/2025 22:37, Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our
toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm bread
on the inside. Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-like objects.

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most of
our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far too long
and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the thickness of
slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices somewhat.

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to each
slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice 800 to 1000W.

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is a
2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and
purchased one - probably pricey at -u44 from amazon but certainly a lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.

This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye on it
as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices for the
unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last go to my grave eating decent toast.

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On 28/07/2025 10:12, Felix wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

what is a 'could of' toaster ?

Autocorrect
--
rCLIt is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought.rCY
Sir Roger Scruton

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Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound around
sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50 years ago,
when people repaired home appliances.
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On 28 Jul 2025 at 10:56:45 BST, Andy Bennett wrote:

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is a
2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and purchased one - probably pricey at -u44 from amazon but certainly a lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I quite like the Dualit I've been using more or less daily for the past 20 years.

I did inherit it, though. Not sure I'd pay full price for one when and if it gives up.
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
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On 28/07/2025 13:26, RJH wrote:

On 28 Jul 2025 at 10:56:45 BST, Andy Bennett wrote:

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is a
2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and
purchased one - probably pricey at -u44 from amazon but certainly a lot
cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I quite like the Dualit I've been using more or less daily for the past 20 years.

I did inherit it, though. Not sure I'd pay full price for one when and if it gives up.

They just get repaired.
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On 28/07/2025 13:14, Ozix wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound around
sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50 years ago,
when people repaired home appliances.

They still are wires wound round sheets of Mica - plus the bit that
switches it on and off.

I binned my last toaster because it wouldn't switch on any more. And it
was too small to take a frozen pita bread :-)

I could have spent a day working out why but I couldn't be arsed.
--
Of what good are dead warriors? rCa Warriors are those who desire battle
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
battle dance and dream of glory rCa The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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On 28/07/2025 14:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/07/2025 13:14, Ozix wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound around
sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50 years ago,
when people repaired home appliances.

They still are wires wound round sheets of Mica - plus the bit that
switches it on and off.

I binned my last toaster because it wouldn't switch on any more. And it
was too small to take a frozen pita bread :-)

I could have spent a day working out why but I couldn't be arsed.

It can't take you a day to work out why you bought a toaster that's too
small for a frozen pita bread? :)


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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 19:05:05 +1000, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/07/2025 22:37, Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

You haven't mentioned which make/brand of toaster but

I didnt do that because it appears to be an obscure chinese
brand because there were no hits using google. I got them
at garagr/car boot sales

Yes, if there aren't any screws you should be able to lever it off.

If welding the element doesn't work you should be able to fit
replacement elements easily.

No sign of any replacement elements
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Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

what is a 'could of' toaster ?

Couple of toasters
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Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our > toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm bread > on the inside.

Me too

Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-like objects.

True
Mate of mine showed up one morning when I was having my
breakfast which is just a massive great slab of my toast and
said 'what the hell is that' :-)

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most of > our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far too long > and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the thickness of > slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices somewhat.

And its a damned nuisance to have to do it so manually.
I much prefer a proper pop up toaster

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to each > slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice 800 to > 1000W.
I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is a > 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.
I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and > purchased one - probably pricey at u44 from amazon but certainly a lot > cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I've been getting mine from garage/car boot sales, mostly for $5 or $10
so its cheap to try because you can't really try toasters in the shop tosee how well they handle very thick slices of bread and even the ones
that claim to do crumpets isnt really much use for our bread

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.
This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye on it > as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices for the > unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last go to my grave > eating decent toast.

Thanks for that, might try one if the repair turns out to be not feasible.
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Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound around
sheets of mica.

That's what these are

She got it rewired, but that was about 50 yearsago, when people
repaired home appliances.

I am quite capable of doing that myself if necessary
but plan to just take the last 1cm loop off to replace
the burnt out bit at the termination of the end.
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On 28/07/2025 15:52, GB wrote:

On 28/07/2025 14:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/07/2025 13:14, Ozix wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because I do
really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard to find a
popup toaster that can do that well, particularly when buying
online at a sensible price and it shouldn't be hard to spot
weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get the
cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine do. Are
they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound
around sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50
years ago, when people repaired home appliances.

They still are wires wound round sheets of Mica - plus the bit that
switches it on and off.

I binned my last toaster because it wouldn't switch on any more.
And it was too small to take a frozen pita bread :-)

I could have spent a day working out why but I couldn't be arsed.

It can't take you a day to work out why you bought a toaster that's
too small for a frozen pita bread? :)

No, a day to work out why the one I bought isn't working.

Once the decision to buy a new one was made, it took me a day to find
one that *could* toast a frozen pita bread.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08HZFDQYC
It's actually pretty good so far.
1400watts
--
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

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On 28/07/2025 10:56, Andy Bennett wrote:

On 27/07/2025 22:37, Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our
toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm bread
on the inside. Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-like objects.

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most of
our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far too long
and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the thickness of
slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices somewhat.

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to each slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice 800 to 1000W.

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is a
2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and purchased one - probably pricey at -u44 from amazon but certainly a lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.

This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye on it
as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices for the
unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last go to my grave eating decent toast.

Why stop there?
Cremation - and take a loaf of Mother's Pride with you.
--
Sam Plusnet
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 19:14:03 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread
Cooks perfect toast boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)

what air fryer is it?

Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay
The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)

.\I won this in a pub raffle
NutriBullet XXL Digital 7L Air Fryer
Temu sell no-brand a lot better price
https://tinyurl.com/mrub2tkh
Say goodbye to your oven as well a lot easier to clean
but do need cleaning, just put brown cooking paper under basket tray
makes it even easier to clean, also trays can be bought for putting
chicken sausages whatever in and in that tray you can get a paper tray
to go in that (bought by the dozen Temu)
Takes a week to get goods from china to Sydney/Campbelltown
They log you into Australia, after logging in go to china (remove the
AU on URL it's even cheaper)
Bought my neighbour one for AU$40 he and his daughter love it.
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Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 19:14:03 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

Got rid of my toaster (more kitchen bench space)
Use my AirFryer 200 degrees Celsius, 3 to 4 minutes depending on bread
Cooks perfect toast boils perfect eggs 125C 15 minutes (1 or a dozen)

what air fryer is it?

Same time/temp, cook them night before they stay hot for a while.
Ready to peel next day, Egg Slicer bread Mayonnaise
I use Aldi Turkish Rolls mainly or Burgen Rye Bread both 4 minutes
Perfect all the time, I just lay them flat.
if you want there are toast racks for the Air Fryer, Amazon/Ebay
The "Toaster Alarm" no longer goes off (now a *REAL* smoke detector)

.\I won this in a pub raffle
NutriBullet XXL Digital 7L Air Fryer
Temu sell no-brand a lot better price
https://tinyurl.com/mrub2tkh

I thought it was probably like that. The one here is a dinosaur like this..

https://www.reddit.com/r/airfryer/comments/175q0vh/whats_the_difference_between_this_and_a_typical/#lightbox

but even more basic. I think it wouldn't be much good for making toast,
but fortunately our toaster is a good one. It has various settings,
including one specifically for crumpets, and it accommodates large (and
thick) bread slices.

Say goodbye to your oven as well a lot easier to clean
but do need cleaning, just put brown cooking paper under basket tray
makes it even easier to clean, also trays can be bought for putting
chicken sausages whatever in and in that tray you can get a paper tray
to go in that (bought by the dozen Temu)
Takes a week to get goods from china to Sydney/Campbelltown
They log you into Australia, after logging in go to china (remove the
AU on URL it's even cheaper)
Bought my neighbour one for AU$40 he and his daughter love it.

--
Linux Mint 22.1

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 09:36:48 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

Temu sell no-brand a lot better price
https://tinyurl.com/mrub2tkh

I was logged on seems the link needs my logon
Anyhow it was all bells and whistles for AU$70

I thought it was probably like that. The one here is a dinosaur like this..

https://www.reddit.com/r/airfryer/comments/175q0vh/whats_the_difference_between_this_and_a_typical/#lightbox

Don't lok good to me

but even more basic. I think it wouldn't be much good for making toast,
but fortunately our toaster is a good one. It has various settings, >including one specifically for crumpets, and it accommodates large (and >thick) bread slices.

My oaster was a great one used ifrared bars took a bit longer to toast
For me the Air Fryer is much superior, not limited to just toat
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On 28/07/2025 16:09, Rod Speed wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 19:05:05 +1000, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000- medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/07/2025 22:37, Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
-aBut I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

You haven't mentioned which make/brand of toaster but

I didnt do that because it appears to be an obscure chinese
brand because there were no hits using google. I got them
at garagr/car boot sales

Yes, if there aren't any screws you should be able to lever it off.

If welding the element doesn't work you should be able to fit
replacement elements easily.

No sign of any replacement elements

Toaster elements are usuually generic either lattice type on insulated
former or radiant type in a glass tube.

When you have disaasembled them you should be able to decide the type
and size you need. There are a selection of replacement elements
available on eSpares.co.uk
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On 28/07/2025 16:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/07/2025 15:52, GB wrote:

On 28/07/2025 14:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/07/2025 13:14, Ozix wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because I do
really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard to find a
popup toaster that can do that well, particularly when buying
online at a sensible price and it shouldn't be hard to spot
weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get the
cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine do. Are
they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound
around sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50
years ago, when people repaired home appliances.

They still are wires wound round sheets of Mica - plus the bit that
-aswitches it on and off.

I binned my last toaster because it wouldn't switch on any more.
And it was too small to take a frozen pita bread :-)

I could have spent a day working out why but I couldn't be arsed.

It can't take you a day to work out why you bought a toaster that's
too small for a frozen pita bread? :)

No, a day to work out why the one I bought isn't working.

Once the decision to buy a new one was made, it took me a day to find
one that *could* toast a frozen pita bread.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08HZFDQYC
It's actually pretty good so far.
1400watts

That looks like a good idea.

I can never buy one, I'm afraid. That's because I bought a Dualit
toaster 30 years ago. So, until that breaks irreparably (which can never happen), I'm doomed to keep on using it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctin21yrfcA


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Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

You haven't mentioned which make/brand of toaster but

I didnt do that because it appears to be an obscure chinese
brand because there were no hits using google. I got them
at garagr/car boot sales

Belle in red letters on one side and no compliance plate

Yes, if there aren't any screws you should be able to lever it off.

If welding the element doesn't work you should be able to fit
replacement elements easily.

No sign of any replacement elements

Toaster elements are usuually generic either lattice type on insulated former or radiant type in a glass tube.

Yes, all of mine are definitely wire on a sheet of mica with
holes for the wire which is bright red when cooking toast.

When you have disaasembled them you should be able to decide the type
and size you need. There are a selection of replacement elements
available on eSpares.co.uk

Thanks for that.

With the first toaster being repaired I had forgotten that the
problem is that the central element isnt getting power at all
so it may well just be a simple wiring failure which is very
easy to fix. I havent gotten around to opening it yet, too busy
with other stuff at the moment.
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On 28 Jul 2025 at 13:28:51 BST, GB wrote:

On 28/07/2025 13:26, RJH wrote:

On 28 Jul 2025 at 10:56:45 BST, Andy Bennett wrote:

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is a >>> 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and
purchased one - probably pricey at -u44 from amazon but certainly a lot
cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I quite like the Dualit I've been using more or less daily for the past 20 >> years.

I did inherit it, though. Not sure I'd pay full price for one when and if it >> gives up.

They just get repaired.

Yes, I see they still keep spares for my model. Not bad.
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
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On 28/07/2025 7:37 am, Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Why not call Phil Allison, or is he dead, haven't seen anything of him
lately.
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keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Why not call Phil Allison,

Didn't need to, turns out the handle does just
pull off and when I did that it is clear that it does
just pull off with the design that allows that.

or is he dead, haven't seen anything of him lately.

Someone, think it was Tim, did say he still talks to him somewhere on
usenet
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In aus.computers keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:

Why not call Phil Allison, or is he dead, haven't seen anything of him lately.

Seems like he got cut off when Google Groups shut down their Usenet
access.
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#_ < |\| |< _#
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On 31 Jul 2025 08:39:49 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
Kev) wrote:

In aus.computers keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:

Why not call Phil Allison, or is he dead, haven't seen anything of him
lately.

Seems like he got cut off when Google Groups shut down their Usenet
access.

I really miss a need Goggle groups comeback

A lot of real information there that was "lookupable"
Sort of still is up to the cut off point!
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:37:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, with the little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up. The commercial units don't have a turntable
at all, and are stainless steel throught. I'm looking at..... https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy a commercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws. Remember, I'm here to help.



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Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

The commercial units don't have a turntable at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore, but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

and are stainless steel throught.

No corrosion in mine

I'm looking at..... https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive
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On 31/07/2025 04:38, Peter Jason wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:37:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, with the little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up. The commercial units don't have a turntable
at all, and are stainless steel throught. I'm looking at..... https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

I bought a 'commercial' microwave.
All stainless steel.

Two years later the magnetron shorted out. :-)

But it was DIY replaceable.

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy a commercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws. Remember, I'm here to help.

Are you?



--
rCLProgress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,rCY

rCo Ludwig von Mises

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Peter Jason wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:37:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, with the little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up.

the National microwave I bought in 1977 is still working fine. no reason
to replace it. except the turntable is reluctant to spin, and sometimes
needs a helping hand to get it started

The commercial units don't have a turntable
at all, and are stainless steel throught. I'm looking at..... https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

sounds good, expensive tho

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy a commercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws. Remember, I'm here to help.

I don't know why anyone would be bothered trying to repair a toaster
these days, unless it was something they really wanted to keep
--
Linux Mint 22.1

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Rod Speed wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave toa
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withtheaa little turntable wheelsa
all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

damn! you beat me by 4 years

The commercial units don't have a turntablea at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore,

ha! mine still does

but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

and are stainless steel throught.

No corrosion in mine

or mine

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/

...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish.aa And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,a
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

try the Paul Hogan method :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=26s
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On 28/07/2025 16:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/07/2025 15:52, GB wrote:

On 28/07/2025 14:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/07/2025 13:14, Ozix wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because I do
really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard to find a
popup toaster that can do that well, particularly when buying
online at a sensible price and it shouldn't be hard to spot
weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get the
cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine do. Are
they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound
around sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50
years ago, when people repaired home appliances.

My granny had a strange toaster. There was a single element (I assume
it was round a mica back but I was too young at the time to be
interested in that. There were two swing out receptacles for the bread
and a strange hinge arrangement. She put a slice in each receptacle,
which toasted both slices of bread on one side, then she swung the
receptacles round the fixed bit holding the element and that toasted the
other sides of the bread.

I have never seen one like it before or since. I have no idea what
happened to it when she died.

They still are wires wound round sheets of Mica - plus the bit that
-aswitches it on and off.

I binned my last toaster because it wouldn't switch on any more.
And it was too small to take a frozen pita bread :-)

The best toaster I found for thick bread was a Tefal one I had about 40
years ago which had a single long wide slot which took two slices if positioned vertically. That means it could have taken pitta bread, but
I never tried it. I have just looked at the Tefal website and they
don't do anything like that now.

It was very good with thick slices. Unfortunately when I tried using it
for crumpets it toasted them OK but it didn't pop up high enough to take
the crumpets out so I had to unplug it and try to stab the crumpets to
lift them out.

In those days I didn't know that toasters could be repaired, and these elements were coiled wire in a glass tube, which because of the length
of the slot were longer than for a typical toaster. With no internet
capable of being searched in those days, when the elements stopped
working it was scrapped.

I recognise that this is not much help to the other contributors to this thread, but it is an interesting glimpse into history. Old age does
bring some benefits!

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Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

damn! you beat me by 4 years

Mine is a National too

The commercial units don't have a turntable at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore,

ha! mine still does

Bet its something simple like the belt has broken
or has come off but I haven't even bothered to look
because it works just as well when not rotating

but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Just as even as it ever was.

and are stainless steel throught.

No corrosion in mine

or mine

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

try the Paul Hogan method :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=26s

Too much farting around. I want something you put the
toast in and it comes out perfect every time with me doing
nothing except something else while I am waiting. +
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Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@omitthisgooglemail.com> wrote

The Natural Philosopher wrote

GB wrote

The Natural Philosopher wrote

Ozix wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because I do
really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard to find a
popup toaster that can do that well, particularly when buying
online at a sensible price and it shouldn't be hard to spot
weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get the
cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine do. Are
they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I remember my granny had an old toaster with the wire wound
around sheets of mica. She got it rewired, but that was about 50
years ago, when people repaired home appliances.

My granny had a strange toaster. There was a single element (I assume
it was round a mica back but I was too young at the time to be
interested in that. There were two swing out receptacles for the bread
and a strange hinge arrangement. She put a slice in each receptacle,
which toasted both slices of bread on one side, then she swung the receptacles round the fixed bit holding the element and that toasted the other sides of the bread.

Yeah, one of my ancient relos who was the same age as my dad and mum
who we used to stay with a lot had one of those,

I have never seen one like it before or since.

I have seen one at a garage/car boot sale for a deceased estate

I have no idea what happened to it when she died.

They still are wires wound round sheets of Mica - plus the bit that
switches it on and off.

I binned my last toaster because it wouldn't switch on any more.
And it was too small to take a frozen pita bread :-)

The best toaster I found for thick bread was a Tefal one I had about 40 years ago which had a single long wide slot which took two slices if positioned vertically. That means it could have taken pitta bread, but
I never tried it. I have just looked at the Tefal website and they
don't do anything like that now.

It was very good with thick slices. Unfortunately when I tried using it for crumpets it toasted them OK but it didn't pop up high enough to take the crumpets out so I had to unplug it and try to stab the crumpets to
lift them out.

In those days I didn't know that toasters could be repaired, and these elements were coiled wire in a glass tube, which because of the length
of the slot were longer than for a typical toaster. With no internet capable of being searched in those days, when the elements stopped
working it was scrapped.

I recognise that this is not much help to the other contributors to this thread, but it is an interesting glimpse into history.

Yep

Old age does bring some benefits!

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On Thu, 7/31/2025 8:46 AM, Felix wrote:

I don't know why anyone would be bothered trying to
repair a toaster these days, unless it was something they really wanted to keep

https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Toaster :-)

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HAY+Sowden+Toaster+%E2%80%93+won't+turn+off/171028

Paul


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On 1/08/2025 12:14 am, Indy Jess John wrote:

My granny had a strange toaster.-a There was a single element (I assume
it was round a mica back but I was too young at the time to be
interested in that.-a There were two swing out receptacles for the bread
and a strange hinge arrangement.-a She put a slice in each receptacle,
which toasted both slices of bread on one side, then she swung the receptacles round the fixed bit holding the element and that toasted the other sides of the bread.

Years ago, that was a pretty common design. completely manual, but
nothing much to go wrong, cheap too.
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:13:57 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
wrote:

On 1/08/2025 12:14 am, Indy Jess John wrote:

My granny had a strange toaster.a There was a single element (I assume
it was round a mica back but I was too young at the time to be
interested in that.a There were two swing out receptacles for the bread
and a strange hinge arrangement.a She put a slice in each receptacle,
which toasted both slices of bread on one side, then she swung the
receptacles round the fixed bit holding the element and that toasted the
other sides of the bread.

Years ago, that was a pretty common design. completely manual, but
nothing much to go wrong, cheap too.

Toasters are now like a antique car sentimental value for old crap!
Sticking to my air fryer, Aldi even flogging them for as little $40/
The Air fryer make toast exactly as I tell it to. by manipulating time
and temperature.

Over the years driving home from work became addicted to the 11 month
old servo pies with tomato sauce!!
Replicate
I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box
put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.
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On 1/08/2025 5:12 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:13:57 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
wrote:

On 1/08/2025 12:14 am, Indy Jess John wrote:

My granny had a strange toaster.-a There was a single element (I assume
it was round a mica back but I was too young at the time to be
interested in that.-a There were two swing out receptacles for the bread >>> and a strange hinge arrangement.-a She put a slice in each receptacle,
which toasted both slices of bread on one side, then she swung the
receptacles round the fixed bit holding the element and that toasted the >>> other sides of the bread.

Years ago, that was a pretty common design. completely manual, but
nothing much to go wrong, cheap too.

Toasters are now like a antique car sentimental value for old crap!
Sticking to my air fryer, Aldi even flogging them for as little $40/
The Air fryer make toast exactly as I tell it to. by manipulating time
and temperature.

Over the years driving home from work became addicted to the 11 month
old servo pies with tomato sauce!!
Replicate
I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box
put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.

You are obviously a gourmand.
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On 1/08/2025 1:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe-a-a little turntable
wheels-a all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

damn! you beat me by 4 years

Mine is a National too

The commercial units don't have a turntable-a at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore,

ha! mine still does

Bet its something simple like the belt has broken
or has come off but I haven't even bothered to look
because it works just as well when not rotating

but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Our microwave doesn't have a turntable.

Just as even as it ever was.

and are stainless steel throught.

No corrosion in mine

or mine

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-
commercial-microwave-light-duty/ ...........because I'm sick of the
cheap rubbish.-a-a And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

try the Paul Hogan method :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=26s

Too much farting around. I want something you put the
toast in and it comes out perfect every time with me doing
nothing except something else while I am waiting. +

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On 01/08/2025 11:29, keithr0 wrote:

On 1/08/2025 5:12 pm, Petzl wrote:

I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box
put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.

You are obviously a gourmand.

Didn't Big Clive take a Fray Bentos steak & Kidney pie to pieces and
fail to find *any meat at all*?
--
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rule.
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On 01/08/2025 11:31, keithr0 wrote:

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Our microwave doesn't have a turntable.

There is no need for a turntable. The industrial microwaves have a
rotating aluminium reflector array under the removable-for-cleaning
plastic floor.


Its way more reliable than a rotating turntable for continuous use.
--
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rule.
rCo H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

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Rod Speed wrote:

Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave
toa replace mine, rusted out as usual, withtheaa little turntable
wheelsa all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

damn! you beat me by 4 years

Mine is a National too

The commercial units don't have a turntablea at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore,

ha! mine still does

Bet its something simple like the belt has broken
or has come off but I haven't even bothered to look
because it works just as well when not rotating

but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Just as even as it ever was.

and are stainless steel throught.

No corrosion in mine

or mine

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish.aa And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial
toaster,a with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

try the Paul Hogan method :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=26s

Too much farting around.

It wasn't a serious suggestion

I want something you put the
toast in and it comes out perfect every time with me doing
nothing except something else while I am waiting. +

IOW the perfect toaster. I don't think such a thing has ever been invented.
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:31, keithr0 wrote:

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Our microwave doesn't have a turntable.

There is no need for a turntable. The industrial microwaves have a
rotating aluminium reflector array under the removable-for-cleaning
plastic floor.

the purpose of both of those is to scatter the microwaves so the food
heats evenly. so if there's no turntable there needs to be another
method, such as the rotating reflector you mention. without some way to scatter the microwaves the food will not heat evenly.

Its way more reliable than a rotating turntable for continuous use.

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On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 20:31:14 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:

On 1/08/2025 1:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercial microwave to >>>>> replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe little turntable
wheels all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

damn! you beat me by 4 years

Mine is a National too

The commercial units don't have a turntable at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore,

ha! mine still does

Bet its something simple like the belt has broken
or has come off but I haven't even bothered to look
because it works just as well when not rotating

but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Our microwave doesn't have a turntable.

I actually have two, one is a convection microwave
I got for peanuts at a garage sale which I hardly ever
use, which doesnt either. It works fine too

Just as even as it ever was.

and are stainless steel throught.

No corrosion in mine

or mine

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-
commercial-microwave-light-duty/ ...........because I'm sick of the >>>>> cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster, >>>>> with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

try the Paul Hogan method :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=26s

Too much farting around. I want something you put the
toast in and it comes out perfect every time with me doing
nothing except something else while I am waiting. +

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On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 21:08:51 +1000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:29, keithr0 wrote:

On 1/08/2025 5:12 pm, Petzl wrote:

I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box
put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.

You are obviously a gourmand.

Didn't Big Clive take a Fray Bentos steak & Kidney pie to pieces and
fail to find *any meat at all*?

There isnt just one version and there is plenty of obvious meat in the
best versions
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 23:33:37 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:31, keithr0 wrote:

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Our microwave doesn't have a turntable.

There is no need for a turntable. The industrial microwaves have a
rotating aluminium reflector array under the removable-for-cleaning
plastic floor.

the purpose of both of those is to scatter the microwaves so the food
heats evenly. so if there's no turntable there needs to be another
method, such as the rotating reflector you mention. without some way to scatter the microwaves the food will not heat evenly.

Its perfectly possible to design a domestic microwave
so it cooks evenly without anything like that.

Its way more reliable than a rotating turntable for continuous use.

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On 01/08/2025 14:33, Felix wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:31, keithr0 wrote:

it won't heat as evenly if it doesn't rotate the food

Our microwave doesn't have a turntable.

There is no need for a turntable. The industrial microwaves have a
rotating aluminium reflector array under the removable-for-cleaning
plastic floor.

the purpose of both of those is to scatter the microwaves so the food
heats evenly. so if there's no turntable there needs to be another
method, such as the rotating reflector you mention. without some way to scatter the microwaves the food will not heat evenly.

No!
Whoda thunk it?

Its way more reliable than a rotating turntable for continuous use.

--
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...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman



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On 01/08/2025 11:29, keithr0 wrote:

On 1/08/2025 5:12 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:13:57 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
wrote:

On 1/08/2025 12:14 am, Indy Jess John wrote:

My granny had a strange toaster.-a There was a single element (I assume >>>> it was round a mica back but I was too young at the time to be
interested in that.-a There were two swing out receptacles for the bread >>>> and a strange hinge arrangement.-a She put a slice in each receptacle, >>>> which toasted both slices of bread on one side, then she swung the
receptacles round the fixed bit holding the element and that toasted
the
other sides of the bread.

Years ago, that was a pretty common design. completely manual, but
nothing much to go wrong, cheap too.

Toasters are now like a antique car sentimental value for old crap!
Sticking to my air fryer, Aldi even flogging them for as little $40/
The Air fryer make toast exactly as I tell it to. by manipulating time
and temperature.

Over the years driving home from work became addicted to the 11 month
old servo pies with tomato sauce!!
Replicate
I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box
put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.

You are obviously a gourmand.

Efye
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 12:08:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:29, keithr0 wrote:

On 1/08/2025 5:12 pm, Petzl wrote:

I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box
put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.

You are obviously a gourmand.

Didn't Big Clive take a Fray Bentos steak & Kidney pie to pieces and
fail to find *any meat at all*?

Not the pies I have eaten, all have steak in them, I suppose it is
possible for some pies to have more or less meat than others?
Admittedly when you take it out of Air Fryer. it has more pastry than
filling, I like them with a beer they are not cheap either Aldi sell
them for $10 a pie when they put them on offer.
Woolworth's $10:50
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:20:47 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 21:08:51 +1000, The Natural Philosopher ><tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:29, keithr0 wrote:

On 1/08/2025 5:12 pm, Petzl wrote:

I defrost the Aldi "Chunky Sous Vide Slow Cooked Beef Pies" 2 in a box >>>> put the defrosted pie in my 800 watt Microwave for 2 minutes, the,
transfer it to the Air Fryer wet at 175C, for 3 minutes remove add
Tomato sauce and delicious,
Even better are the Steak and Kidney "Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie
with Puff Pastry" in a *steel tin* you need a heavy duty can opener
175C for 25 minutes eat with a pint of Guinness beer, heven.

You are obviously a gourmand.

Didn't Big Clive take a Fray Bentos steak & Kidney pie to pieces and
fail to find *any meat at all*?

There isnt just one version and there is plenty of obvious meat in the
best versions

Yes seems so <https://www.foodshowshop.com/product/fray-bentos-minced-beef-onion/>
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:34:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

The commercial units don't have a turntable at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore, but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

and are stainless steel throught.

I have a 25yo old-model "Sharp Carousel Convection Microwave" at work,
All SS with quality turntable. They made better ones in those days.
It's too big to fit at home.

No corrosion in mine

It's criminal how easily they rust up. I even leave the door open
after use for a good airing out.

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

There are some with very wide openings containing wire clamps to
center and grip narrower pieces of bread during toasting.
Though weird bread sizes require a griller.
I'll report back when I get my new commercial microwave.
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 08:51:34 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:34:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

The commercial units don't have a turntable at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore, but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

and are stainless steel throught.

I have a 25yo old-model "Sharp Carousel Convection Microwave" at work,
All SS with quality turntable. They made better ones in those days.
It's too big to fit at home.

No corrosion in mine

It's criminal how easily they rust up.

None of mine have and I do lots of frozen veg, rice etc which
do produce quite a bit of steam, particularly the rice

I even leave the door open
after use for a good airing out.

I never do that and never get any rust

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

There are some with very wide openings containing wire clamps to
center and grip narrower pieces of bread during toasting.

Though weird bread sizes require a griller.

Nothing weird about 1" thick square slices and
the best popup toasters do handle that fine.

I'll report back when I get my new commercial microwave.

Yes please, and the price
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I'll report back when I get my new commercial microwave.

https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/apuro-fb863-a-manual-commercial-microwave-oven-34ltr-1800w/

Mine is like that. ^^^^^

Buffalo badged

https://www.catering-appliance.com/buffalo-fb863-manual-34-litre-1800w-commercial-microwave-oven

I believe it is a badge engineered Samsung unit. The replacement
magnetron was Samsung

Its very satisfactory apart from popping its mag - shit happens - easy
to clean the floor.
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On 01/08/2025 23:51, Peter Jason wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:34:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe little turntable wheels
all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

The commercial units don't have a turntable at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore, but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

and are stainless steel throught.

I have a 25yo old-model "Sharp Carousel Convection Microwave" at work,
All SS with quality turntable. They made better ones in those days.
It's too big to fit at home.

No corrosion in mine

It's criminal how easily they rust up. I even leave the door open
after use for a good airing out.

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish. And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

There are some with very wide openings containing wire clamps to
center and grip narrower pieces of bread during toasting.

We found one of those in a holiday cottage[1].
The wire clamp on one side of the bread worked, the other side didn't
move.
Not too surprising to find a defect in a mechanism, subject to wide temperature cycles, and built to the cheapest standards possble.

[1] We have never owned a toaster, so this is the only way we get to
play with one.
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On Sat, 8/2/2025 3:44 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 01/08/2025 23:51, Peter Jason wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:34:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe-a-a little turntable wheels >>>> all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

The commercial units don't have a turntable-a at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore, but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

and are stainless steel throught.

I have a 25yo old-model "Sharp Carousel Convection Microwave" at work,
All SS with quality turntable.-a They made better ones in those days.
It's too big to fit at home.

No corrosion in mine

It's criminal how easily they rust up.-a I even leave the door open
after use for a good airing out.

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish.-a-a And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

There are some with very wide openings containing wire clamps to
center and grip narrower pieces of bread during toasting.

We found one of those in a holiday cottage[1].
The wire clamp on one side of the bread worked, the other side didn't move. Not too surprising to find a defect in a mechanism, subject to wide temperature cycles, and built to the cheapest standards possble.

[1] We have never owned a toaster, so this is the only way we get to play with one.

My toaster (two slice, popup, slots not wide enough), is
at least 40 years old. The "thumb push" handle (the compression
fit kind like Rods), is no longer on the machine. I don't know
where that got to. You just push down the metal stub. All
the "logo" badges have fallen off (bad glue). The bottom still has
the brand name Proctor Silex, Picton, Ontario, so it was apparently
Made in Canada (by elves).

I've had it apart several times for cleaning. You can't use lube in
there. Just clean the rails and things that slide.

Considering the materials burned and plated onto the moving bits,
it does pretty well for itself.

As for the "operating principle", it's a Rube Goldberg machine with
levers, springs, a piston (for damping the toast-rise). When it isn't
happy, I haven't a clue what could be wrong with it. So it gets
a cleaning.

I have a replacement toaster sitting in a box. Wider slots in that
one. I thought Old Faithful was ready for the bin once, but a cleaning
brought it back, and the "new one" sits in the box. And you don't dare
use the new one, because if you threw the old one away, the new one
would promptly fail. That's how these things work.

When I was younger, I got to see an even older toasting item.
I'm sure everyone here has seen the toaster with the door that folds
into place while toasting, and you let the door down to get the toast
out. It doesn't pop up. And I don't think it has a toast colour
setting either. You might have to turn the toast over, as I think
the element only faces one way, so two toast cycles are required.

It is the kind of thing you keep at the cottage, to annoy visitors.
These aren't necessarily all that high-powered either. They may not
attempt to draw whatever the outlet limit happens to be, and the
cottage electricals might not be all that wonderful anyway. That's
one reason for bringing one of these along. But as appliances goes,
this is one of the uglier inventions.

https://nesthomegrown.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/100_4546-copy.jpg

Paul


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On 02/08/2025 23:16, Paul wrote:

The "thumb push" handle (the compression
fit kind like Rods), is no longer on the machine. I don't know
where that got to. You just push down the metal stub.

3D printer to the rescue!
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On 02/08/2025 23:16, Paul wrote:

On Sat, 8/2/2025 3:44 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 01/08/2025 23:51, Peter Jason wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:34:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

looking to repair a could of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination

But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

I am going through the process of getting a commercialmicrowave to
replace mine, rusted out as usual, withthe-a-a little turntable wheels >>>>> all oval and clogged up.

The one I got in 73 is still working fine and the wheels
are still perfect and I used it basically daily until I got
the air fryer and still use it for frozen veg most days

The commercial units don't have a turntable-a at all,

Mine doesnt rotate anymore, but that isnt due
to the wheels, it still rotates fine by hand and the
lack of rotation in use doesnt cause any problem.

and are stainless steel throught.

I have a 25yo old-model "Sharp Carousel Convection Microwave" at work,
All SS with quality turntable.-a They made better ones in those days.
It's too big to fit at home.

No corrosion in mine

It's criminal how easily they rust up.-a I even leave the door open
after use for a good airing out.

I'm looking at.....
https://www.nationalkitchenequipment.com.au/robatherm-rm1025-commercial-microwave-light-duty/
...........because I'm sick of the cheap rubbish.-a-a And I want a
proper handle instead of a nail-splitting push button.

Never got a split nail with mine

Perhaps you should stop frigging about and buy acommercial toaster,
with a fine control, and wide jaws.

Not clear if they do the inch thick toast I do, properly
and no way to test that with something so expensive

There are some with very wide openings containing wire clamps to
center and grip narrower pieces of bread during toasting.

We found one of those in a holiday cottage[1].
The wire clamp on one side of the bread worked, the other side didn't move. >> Not too surprising to find a defect in a mechanism, subject to wide temperature cycles, and built to the cheapest standards possble.

[1] We have never owned a toaster, so this is the only way we get to play with one.

My toaster (two slice, popup, slots not wide enough), is
at least 40 years old. The "thumb push" handle (the compression
fit kind like Rods), is no longer on the machine. I don't know
where that got to. You just push down the metal stub. All
the "logo" badges have fallen off (bad glue). The bottom still has
the brand name Proctor Silex, Picton, Ontario, so it was apparently
Made in Canada (by elves).

I've had it apart several times for cleaning. You can't use lube in
there. Just clean the rails and things that slide.

Considering the materials burned and plated onto the moving bits,
it does pretty well for itself.

As for the "operating principle", it's a Rube Goldberg machine with
levers, springs, a piston (for damping the toast-rise). When it isn't
happy, I haven't a clue what could be wrong with it. So it gets
a cleaning.

I have a replacement toaster sitting in a box. Wider slots in that
one. I thought Old Faithful was ready for the bin once, but a cleaning brought it back, and the "new one" sits in the box. And you don't dare
use the new one, because if you threw the old one away, the new one
would promptly fail. That's how these things work.

Your existing toaster has understood the threat you have made in keeping
its replacement in a box nearby. It will carry on working.>

When I was younger, I got to see an even older toasting item.
I'm sure everyone here has seen the toaster with the door that folds
into place while toasting, and you let the door down to get the toast
out. It doesn't pop up. And I don't think it has a toast colour
setting either. You might have to turn the toast over, as I think
the element only faces one way, so two toast cycles are required.

It is the kind of thing you keep at the cottage, to annoy visitors.
These aren't necessarily all that high-powered either. They may not
attempt to draw whatever the outlet limit happens to be, and the
cottage electricals might not be all that wonderful anyway. That's
one reason for bringing one of these along. But as appliances goes,
this is one of the uglier inventions.

https://nesthomegrown.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/100_4546-copy.jpg

At least it's got a proper plug on the end of the cable.
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