• why can't i update this motherboard bios?

    From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Tue Jul 22 19:52:14 2025
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    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios
    instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file. I have all motherboard USB functions enabled. the F6 method
    is not available, doesn't load.
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to aus.computers on Wed Jul 23 09:19:22 2025
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    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file.

    The motherboard probably doesn't have a driver for it (especially
    likely if it's much newer than the mobo). Common enough. Try
    another memory stick. Also you checked it's formatted FAT32 not
    exFAT?
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Wed Jul 23 14:30:11 2025
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    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios
    instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file.
    The motherboard probably doesn't have a driver for it (especially
    likely if it's much newer than the mobo). Common enough.

    it's an older mb .. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/

    Try another memory stick.

    tried that

    Also you checked it's formatted FAT32 not exFAT?


    yes, it reformatted it just to make sure. but in 'properties' for the
    usb stick linux says 'format msdos' ??
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  • From Ozix@ozix@xizo.am to aus.computers on Wed Jul 23 13:07:34 2025
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    Felix wrote:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file. I have all motherboard USB functions enabled. the F6 method
    is not available, doesn't load.


    Possibly you have to use one specific USB socket for BIOS upgrades,
    check the manual.
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to aus.computers on Wed Jul 23 15:16:43 2025
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    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios
    instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file.
    The motherboard probably doesn't have a driver for it (especially
    likely if it's much newer than the mobo). Common enough.

    it's an older mb .. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/

    It's really the age of your memory sticks relative to that which
    matters.

    Try another memory stick.

    tried that

    Also you checked it's formatted FAT32 not exFAT?


    yes, it reformatted it just to make sure. but in 'properties' for the
    usb stick linux says 'format msdos' ??

    That probably means the partition table filesystem type and
    suggests it's FAT16/32 not exFAT. Maybe using mkfs.vfat with
    "--mbr=y" to create a more Windows-style single FAT partition
    would help? But it's just as likely that the mobo's not able to
    talk to your memory sticks in the first place. The instructions
    say you can also do it with a HDD, so that's probably a more
    reliable option.
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Wed Jul 23 21:51:38 2025
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    Ozix wrote:
    Felix wrote:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios
    instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file. I have all motherboard USB functions enabled. the F6
    method is not available, doesn't load.


    Possibly you have to use one specific USB socket for BIOS upgrades,
    check the manual.

    nothing about that in it
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Wed Jul 23 22:07:06 2025
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    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios
    instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the
    bios file.
    The motherboard probably doesn't have a driver for it (especially
    likely if it's much newer than the mobo). Common enough.
    it's an older mb .. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/
    It's really the age of your memory sticks relative to that which
    matters.

    I knew what you meant. I was using older sticks.


    Try another memory stick.
    tried that

    Also you checked it's formatted FAT32 not exFAT?

    yes, it reformatted it just to make sure. but in 'properties' for the
    usb stick linux says 'format msdos' ??
    That probably means the partition table filesystem type and
    suggests it's FAT16/32 not exFAT.

    yes because FAT is a DOS format

    Maybe using mkfs.vfat with
    "--mbr=y" to create a more Windows-style single FAT partition
    would help? But it's just as likely that the mobo's not able to
    talk to your memory sticks in the first place.

    yep

    The instructions
    say you can also do it with a HDD, so that's probably a more
    reliable option.


    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash Utility couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the BIOS. So it
    seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS. I also burnt
    the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not
    the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD and used the
    Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5
    ..and that worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a
    better CPU! :)
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Jul 24 08:04:48 2025
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    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:07:06 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash Utility >couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the BIOS. So it
    seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS. I also burnt
    the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not
    the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD and used the
    Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5 >..and that worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a
    better CPU! :)

    Just go to your motherboard maker and check for a update your BIOS is
    not Operating system relevant
    Any how see what you get just updated my Win11 crap from HP and it
    switches straight to bios to do this and backs up your bios to USB
    after formatting it

    You had a mobile photo of inside Melbourne museum
    If it's still has a web link would like it
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Thu Jul 24 10:13:48 2025
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    Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:07:06 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash Utility
    couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the BIOS. So it
    seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS. I also burnt
    the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not
    the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD and used the
    Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5
    ..and that worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a
    better CPU! :)

    Just go to your motherboard maker and check for a update your BIOS is
    not Operating system relevant
    Any how see what you get just updated my Win11 crap from HP and it
    switches straight to bios to do this and backs up your bios to USB
    after formatting it

    ??


    You had a mobile photo of inside Melbourne museum
    If it's still has a web link would like it

    I had a couple of pics from the Dinosaur exhibition. Are those what you
    want?
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Thu Jul 24 10:25:51 2025
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    Felix wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/ and these are the bios
    instructions: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS

    however, the bios does not see the USB stick, so I cannot get to the >>>>> bios file.
    The motherboard probably doesn't have a driver for it (especially
    likely if it's much newer than the mobo). Common enough.
    it's an older mb .. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/980de3u3s3/
    It's really the age of your memory sticks relative to that which
    matters.

    I knew what you meant. I was using older sticks.


    Try another memory stick.
    tried that

    Also you checked it's formatted FAT32 not exFAT?

    yes, it reformatted it just to make sure. but in 'properties' for the
    usb stick linux says 'format msdos' ??
    That probably means the partition table filesystem type and
    suggests it's FAT16/32 not exFAT.

    yes because FAT is a DOS format

    -a Maybe using mkfs.vfat with
    "--mbr=y" to create a more Windows-style single FAT partition
    would help? But it's just as likely that the mobo's not able to
    talk to your memory sticks in the first place.

    yep

    The instructions
    say you can also do it with a HDD, so that's probably a more
    reliable option.


    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash
    Utility couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the
    BIOS. So it seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS.
    I also burnt the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD
    and used the Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5 ..and that
    worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a better CPU! :)


    upgraded the CPU from Athlon II X3 420e 2.6 Ghz to FX-6100 Six Core
    3.3GHz. All seems good, but the performance increase seems less than I
    had expected, probably due to the motherboard, and because the OS is on
    a mechanical drive.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Jul 24 10:26:03 2025
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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:13:48 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:07:06 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash Utility
    couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the BIOS. So it
    seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS. I also burnt
    the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not >>> the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD and used the
    Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5
    ..and that worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a
    better CPU! :)

    Just go to your motherboard maker and check for a update your BIOS is
    not Operating system relevant
    Any how see what you get just updated my Win11 crap from HP and it
    switches straight to bios to do this and backs up your bios to USB
    after formatting it

    ??


    You had a mobile photo of inside Melbourne museum
    If it's still has a web link would like it

    I had a couple of pics from the Dinosaur exhibition. Are those what you >want?

    Yes please mainly the Dinosaur Skeleton
    Excellent photo
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Thu Jul 24 15:23:20 2025
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    Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:13:48 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:07:06 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash Utility >>>> couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the BIOS. So it
    seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS. I also burnt >>>> the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not >>>> the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD and used the
    Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5 >>>> ..and that worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a
    better CPU! :)

    Just go to your motherboard maker and check for a update your BIOS is
    not Operating system relevant
    Any how see what you get just updated my Win11 crap from HP and it
    switches straight to bios to do this and backs up your bios to USB
    after formatting it
    ??

    You had a mobile photo of inside Melbourne museum
    If it's still has a web link would like it
    I had a couple of pics from the Dinosaur exhibition. Are those what you
    want?

    Yes please mainly the Dinosaur Skeleton
    Excellent photo

    here ya go petz.. :)

    https://auslink.info/dinos/

    pics are full size, so you can resize to suit your requirements
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Jul 24 18:12:23 2025
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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 15:23:20 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:13:48 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:07:06 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    I tried with the BIOS file on an external USB HD, but the Flash Utility >>>>> couldn't load the file, even tho the HD was listed in the BIOS. So it >>>>> seems USB loading is not possible on this MB, sans an OS. I also burnt >>>>> the file to a CD and tried that. The BIOS saw the CD (of course) but not >>>>> the file. anyhow, I gave up and booted to a Win XP HD and used the
    Windows method.. https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=Windows5 >>>>> ..and that worked. so now that the BIOS is upgraded I can install a
    better CPU! :)

    Just go to your motherboard maker and check for a update your BIOS is
    not Operating system relevant
    Any how see what you get just updated my Win11 crap from HP and it
    switches straight to bios to do this and backs up your bios to USB
    after formatting it
    ??

    You had a mobile photo of inside Melbourne museum
    If it's still has a web link would like it
    I had a couple of pics from the Dinosaur exhibition. Are those what you
    want?

    Yes please mainly the Dinosaur Skeleton
    Excellent photo

    here ya go petz.. :)

    https://auslink.info/dinos/

    pics are full size, so you can resize to suit your requirements

    Got them thanks - all excellent
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Fri Jul 25 08:58:29 2025
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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 15:23:20 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:13:48 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:

    Yes please mainly the Dinosaur Skeleton
    Excellent photo

    here ya go petz.. :)

    https://auslink.info/dinos/

    pics are full size, so you can resize to suit your requirements

    Resized photo by 50% keeping everything so when you see it full sized
    it's not "pixilated"
    Exelent
    https://ibb.co/pvkkzNWR
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  • From Felix@none@nowhere.com to aus.computers on Fri Jul 25 14:44:37 2025
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    Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 15:23:20 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:13:48 +1000, Felix <none@nowhere.com> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:

    Yes please mainly the Dinosaur Skeleton
    Excellent photo
    here ya go petz.. :)

    https://auslink.info/dinos/

    pics are full size, so you can resize to suit your requirements

    Resized photo by 50% keeping everything so when you see it full sized
    it's not "pixilated"
    Exelent
    https://ibb.co/pvkkzNWR

    yep. very good!
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