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https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/VPRS11758

This Search responds with "No Records". Am I down the correct weasel hole?



alvey
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On 14/9/2025 9:44 am, alvey wrote:

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/VPRS11758

This Search responds with "No Records". Am I down the correct weasel hole?

alvey

Yes, you are heading in the right direction *but* you have failed to
note a couple of salient points - the archives are listed as *physical*
and *open*. That means the records are in a physical, as opposed to
digital, form. For TAFE records, that would be the original card files
that were filled in by teachers at the TAFE colleges, not a lot
different to the cardfiles used in high school recording back in the
days when I attended high school. The "open" refers to the fact that the records are *open to the public*. The only issue, you have to hunt
through and find the most likely archives, order them out (online), then present yourself at PROV the next day so you can physically inspect the *paper* records yourself. You actually *reserve* the records when you
book them out online and have them made available for your perusal for a
week If you saw the form of the card, you would understand why they have
not been digitised and likely never will be - would involve a lot of incredibly boring man-hours of tedium.

Had Darren provided me with a trade registration number, or two -
according to his claims, it would have been a doddle to look up and
verify since there is a fanfold listing of records sorted by trade registration numbers. That would have enabled me to *easily* zero into specific boxes of fanfold printed records and, more importantly, ensure
that Darren hadn't dummied up someone else's papers as his own - he
would definitely be dishonest enough to try that caper on! FWIW, I did
order out a representative sample of those boxes to see if I could
engineer a solution but it was these that were incorrectly formatted.
I'm not that much of a "whip me, beat me" freak! As I look through my
pix, I see a photo I took of the very first box in the PROV link you
submitted in your other post. VPRS11758/P0001/Unit000001. The box has a sticker on it with my name, the date of ordering, record number(s), even
my PROV login code. Won't be making that public any time soon! ;-)
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alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote:

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/VPRS11758

This Search responds with "No Records". Am I down the correct weasel hole?

alvey

Been having a think about the above. On the system I used to access that
site, it just logged me on automatically with one of my accounts there. If yourCOre getting rCLno recordsrCY, then yourCOre not seeing what IrCOm seeing. You
might need to create an account, then log in with that. Then you will see
lists of records held. There are 54 individual records held in that set.
Each individual record in that subset is a physical box of archives. These could be a box filled with umpteen pages of fanfold paper or a box
containing a set of plastic card file boxes holding apprenticeship TAFE
cards. Note though, even after creating an account and logging in, you will only have the option of ticking the box to order the subset entry out to
the reading room for a week where you would then have the opportunity to
rock on down to PROV In Nth Melbourne and physically access the records.
Not an option for you I suspect. IrCOve been going to PROV for decades, both for work related research and my own private research over the years so I
am quite familiar with the process. Used to be easier when PROV was located
in Downtown Melbourne, a mere single station train ride from the college at Richmond. Or a quick trip by tram. The current location is not so public transport friendly, not so car friendly either, parking is a bitch in Shiel Street.

Darren and Grumpy wonrCOt go to PROV, even when they had the opportunity -
they know full well that Darren has no trade papers to speak of. No reg
number at PROV = no qualifications, no TAFE cards at PROV = no
apprenticeships, none, not a single one. Darren can *claim* as many apprenticeships as he desires, the archives at PROV tell a different story, they tell the *truth*. Now thererCOs a concept totally alien to the fraud! Truth doesnrCOt exist on the planet on which he lives!

HTH
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