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On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial" for
Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were talking
about :)
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial" for
Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were talking
about :)
On 11/8/2025 12:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:Seems to be a problem with many such "reviews", almost impossible to
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
tell what is a genuine open minded review vs a paid ad, also so many of
the criteria are subjective and a matter of opinion rather than fact.
When they were summarizing it seemed like the Ranger was going to win
then out of the blue the Tasman was the winner.
The Ranger as tested was by far the most expensive so it was the worst "value for money" plus it was the least capable on their up hill off
road test but it won every other category.
I neither need or want a ute of any make or model but if I did the
Tasman would be dead last on my list simply because I'd want to throw up every time I looked at it.
On 11-Aug-25 1:26 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 11/8/2025 12:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:Seems to be a problem with many such "reviews", almost impossible to
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
tell what is a genuine open minded review vs a paid ad, also so many
of the criteria are subjective and a matter of opinion rather than fact.
When they were summarizing it seemed like the Ranger was going to win
then out of the blue the Tasman was the winner.
The Ranger as tested was by far the most expensive so it was the worst
"value for money" plus it was the least capable on their up hill off
road test but it won every other category.
I neither need or want a ute of any make or model but if I did the
Tasman would be dead last on my list simply because I'd want to throw
up every time I looked at it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-aQuick-eze will fix that. ;)
opinion* of various testers, otherwise there would be *no point* in conducting them in the first place!. <SHRUG>
-a-a The funny bit was the *comments*...Rusted on supporters of their *favourites*. :) :) :)
On 11/8/2025 2:12 pm, jonz wrote:
On 11-Aug-25 1:26 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 11/8/2025 12:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:Seems to be a problem with many such "reviews", almost impossible to
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
tell what is a genuine open minded review vs a paid ad, also so many
of the criteria are subjective and a matter of opinion rather than fact. >>> When they were summarizing it seemed like the Ranger was going to win
then out of the blue the Tasman was the winner.
The Ranger as tested was by far the most expensive so it was the
worst "value for money" plus it was the least capable on their up
hill off road test but it won every other category.
I neither need or want a ute of any make or model but if I did the
Tasman would be dead last on my list simply because I'd want to throw
up every time I looked at it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aQuick-eze will fix that. ;)
Or a double eye patch:-)
-aThese tests *have* to be a *matter of
opinion* of various testers, otherwise there would be *no point* in
conducting them in the first place!. <SHRUG>
True.
-a-a-a The funny bit was the *comments*...Rusted on supporters of their
*favourites*. :) :) :)
That is always going to happen, almost impossible to find a car reviewer
who doesn't have some sort of favorite or pre conceived ideas.
I know plenty of business ute owners who want have anything if it isn't
a Hilux simple because they believe that they are the most reliable
based on experience with other makes that have let them down, my oldest
son is one of those, he has owned at least a dozen utes of various makes
( 2 SS Commodores a Ranger and a Mazda plus a VW van) but now he won't
have a work vehicle that isn't a Hilux.
On 11/8/2025 12:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:Seems to be a problem with many such "reviews", almost impossible to
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
tell what is a genuine open minded review vs a paid ad, also so many of
the criteria are subjective and a matter of opinion rather than fact.
When they were summarizing it seemed like the Ranger was going to win
then out of the blue the Tasman was the winner.
The Ranger as tested was by far the most expensive so it was the worst "value for money" plus it was the least capable on their up hill off
road test but it won every other category.
I neither need or want a ute of any make or model but if I did the
Tasman would be dead last on my list simply because I'd want to throw up every time I looked at it.
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
No surprises there.
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one, but
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel without a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
No surprises there.
If by "poseur" you mean it didn't do off-road as well as the Hi-lux then
I wouldn't be surprised either as the Hi-lux has an excellent reputation
on rough stuff. But then unless all the contenders have the same tyres
and the same level of grip such comparisons are quite useless.
I'd also not be surprised if the Ranger snotted the Hi-lux senseless in every other respect, and that would be simply because it does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmc
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one,
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel without a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
On 11/8/2025 7:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:Jealousy's a curse!
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real
4x4.
No surprises there.
If by "poseur" you mean it didn't do off-road as well as the Hi-lux
then I wouldn't be surprised either as the Hi-lux has an excellent
reputation on rough stuff. But then unless all the contenders have the
same tyres and the same level of grip such comparisons are quite useless.
I'd also not be surprised if the Ranger snotted the Hi-lux senseless
in every other respect, and that would be simply because it does.
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
No surprises there.
If by "poseur" you mean it didn't do off-road as well as the Hi-lux then
I wouldn't be surprised either as the Hi-lux has an excellent reputation
on rough stuff. But then unless all the contenders have the same tyres
and the same level of grip such comparisons are quite useless.
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real 4x4.
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one, but
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel without a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
On 11/08/2025 5:54 pm, lindsay wrote:
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one,
Nothing to do with that dickhead and everything to do with observing the number of them that evidently have never been near a gravel road or
carried a load.
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the small
cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and there is daylight between them and second place.
-abut
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel without
a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
The Hilux has typically always been a generation behind but that's not
the point of a ute like that. If you need a 4x4, the Hilux is the most capable of the lot. Still.
And that's rather embarrassing for the poseur posse isn't it :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZbbJAIl4A&ab_channel=CarExpert--
Fancy buying a new 4x4 that gets snotted by an old model with an even
older generation 4x4 system at it's intended purpose - 4x4-ing.
Not that a poseur will ever need to engage 4x4 to pick up the paper
(people still read those?) and a coffee and that is the market the
Ranger is predominantly aimed at.
:-)
On 11/8/2025 7:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real
4x4.
No surprises there.
If by "poseur" you mean it didn't do off-road as well as the Hi-lux
then I wouldn't be surprised either as the Hi-lux has an excellent
reputation on rough stuff. But then unless all the contenders have the
same tyres and the same level of grip such comparisons are quite useless.
Different tyres would make a huge difference, to be a valid comparison
they all need to be fitted with the exact same tyre.
On 11/8/2025 7:54 pm, lindsay wrote:
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one, but
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel without
a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
Generally Toyota does a major update to the Hilux every 10years with
minor facelifts and upgrades in between so a new model must be due soon.
On 11/08/2025 5:54 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid "infomercial"
for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea what they were
talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real
4x4.
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one,
Nothing to do with that dickhead and everything to do with observing the number of them that evidently have never been near a gravel road or
carried a load.
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the small
cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and there is daylight between them and second place.
-abut
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel without
a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
The Hilux has typically always been a generation behind but that's not
the point of a ute like that. If you need a 4x4, the Hilux is the most capable of the lot. Still.
And that's rather embarrassing for the poseur posse isn't it :-)
On 12/08/2025 11:49 am, Clocky wrote:
Nothing to do with that dickhead and everything to do with observing
the number of them that evidently have never been near a gravel road
or carried a load.
There's lots of EVERY brand, inc Hilux getting around, that look nice
and clean, Wether they've even been on a dirt track, who knows? how do
you tell? You live in a country town. you'd expect to see dirty utes.
The majority of the country's population live in the city, where the
tradies work during the week and play on weekends.
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the
small cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and
there is daylight between them and second place.
Exactly what I'd expect from the rusted on toyota fanbois. Lots of
frothing about bogans wankers and the small cock brigade, as usual, But
all just an opinion. And you know what people says about opinions.. :-D
The Hilux has typically always been a generation behind but that's not
the point of a ute like that. If you need a 4x4, the Hilux is the most
capable of the lot. Still.
I dont disagree. I cant. I've never-a driven a hilux in 4wd. I use mine
in 4x4 when required. Perhaps 5% of the time. But i'd be stuffed without
it. Thats why i have it. And it was $10K cheaper and way more modern
than a Hilux.
Exactly.And that's rather embarrassing for the poseur posse isn't it :-)
Dont know. I'm not a member, I use mine as it's intended. And it's done,
and been, everywhere I've asked of it. That little gravely hill, where
the ranger failed, is an anomaly. Mine could climb that in 4wd lo, no
diff lock, easily. One wonders if he just pushed the go pedal a tad more than required in the right spot for it to fail.. Still, it failed. So be
it. To me all that matters is mine hasnt.
On 12/08/2025 11:56 am, Clocky wrote:
Fancy buying a new 4x4 that gets snotted by an old model with an even
older generation 4x4 system at it's intended purpose - 4x4-ing.
Fancy being stupid enough to think a knobled test of *part* of the
vehicles on test's ability is class defining :)
Not that a poseur will ever need to engage 4x4 to pick up the paper
(people still read those?) and a coffee and that is the market the
Ranger is predominantly aimed at.
:-)
Zero interest in 4WD here, and had they made the Ranger V6 Wildtrak in
2WD I would have bought one. I want something that drives well, hauls a
load and tows effortlessly.
You know, all the things the Hi-Lux is incapable of.
How can he tell they've never carried a load? :)
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the
small cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and
there is daylight between them and second place.
Yeah, and it's ironic coming from a Commodore driver.
He has a flogged out ex-mine base model dual cab Hi-Lux that he "scored" before it was fucked off to the auctions, or scrapper, and he thinks
he's the only one who "works" his ute. Such is the delusional state he
lives in.
It was a bullshit clickbait video. Three of the four vehicles they
"tested" had off-road drive modes that are selectable from the driver's
seat which dramatically change the vehicle's performance over rough
ground, but they weren't used on their "test", and the only conclusion I
can reach there is they deliberately chose not to use them to keep the Toyota relevant as it doesn't have such features and is only equipped
with a 1960's style low range transfer case.
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the results would have been decidedly different :)
On 13/8/2025 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:
How can he tell they've never carried a load? :)
Around here it's easy to pick the poseur utes.
mostly tradies and farmers here and it's easy to pick the *working* utes amongst them - like the lad's Hilux over the road - has a load
permanently on the tray - his business machinery - and he still keeps
the ute pristine. His next door neighbour, a farmer, has half a dozen
Hilux utes in various stages of being beaten to death
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the
small cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and
there is daylight between them and second place.
Yeah, and it's ironic coming from a Commodore driver.
Your response is even more ironic coming from a poseur ranger driver.>
He has a flogged out ex-mine base model dual cab Hi-Lux that he
"scored" before it was fucked off to the auctions, or scrapper, and he
thinks he's the only one who "works" his ute. Such is the delusional
state he lives in.
It was a bullshit clickbait video. Three of the four vehicles they
You would feel right at home watching it! All you have is bullshit!
"tested" had off-road drive modes that are selectable from the
driver's seat which dramatically change the vehicle's performance over
rough ground, but they weren't used on their "test", and the only
conclusion I can reach there is they deliberately chose not to use
them to keep the Toyota relevant as it doesn't have such features and
is only equipped with a 1960's style low range transfer case.
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the
results would have been decidedly different :)
So you were at the testing ground while they did the testing, no?
On 13/08/2025 8:22 am, lindsay wrote:
On 12/08/2025 11:49 am, Clocky wrote:
Nothing to do with that dickhead and everything to do with observing
the number of them that evidently have never been near a gravel road
or carried a load.
There's lots of EVERY brand, inc Hilux getting around, that look nice
and clean, Wether they've even been on a dirt track, who knows? how do
you tell? You live in a country town. you'd expect to see dirty utes.
The majority of the country's population live in the city, where the
tradies work during the week and play on weekends.
How can he tell they've never carried a load? :)
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the
small cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and
there is daylight between them and second place.
Exactly what I'd expect from the rusted on toyota fanbois. Lots of
frothing about bogans wankers and the small cock brigade, as usual,
But all just an opinion. And you know what people says about
opinions.. :-D
Yeah, and it's ironic coming from a Commodore driver.
He has a flogged out ex-mine base model dual cab Hi-Lux that he "scored" before it was fucked off to the auctions, or scrapper, and he thinks
he's the only one who "works" his ute. Such is the delusional state he
lives in.
The Hilux has typically always been a generation behind but that's
not the point of a ute like that. If you need a 4x4, the Hilux is the
most capable of the lot. Still.
I dont disagree. I cant. I've never-a driven a hilux in 4wd. I use mine
in 4x4 when required. Perhaps 5% of the time. But i'd be stuffed
without it. Thats why i have it. And it was $10K cheaper and way more
modern than a Hilux.
I looked at a Hi-lux when I was searching for a new ute a couple of
years ago. I looked at virtually everything on the market because I
don't have a brand preference and wanted to buy whatever I liked best regardless of who made it. Despite the claims of some I don't hate
Toyotas, and looked at the "Rogue" which was in the same price range as
the V6 Ranger Wildtrak.
Whether the Hi-Lux was better off road or not I couldn't tell you, and
nor could I care, but in *every* other respect the Hi-Lux was *so* far behind the Ranger it was embarrassing to the point where I wondered why anyone would want to buy a Hi-Lux and could only ever do so because they were brand sycophants.
It really was a night and day difference. The Ranger drives like a car.
The Hi-lux drives like an old truck.
Exactly.And that's rather embarrassing for the poseur posse isn't it :-)
Dont know. I'm not a member, I use mine as it's intended. And it's
done, and been, everywhere I've asked of it. That little gravely hill,
where the ranger failed, is an anomaly. Mine could climb that in 4wd
lo, no diff lock, easily. One wonders if he just pushed the go pedal a
tad more than required in the right spot for it to fail.. Still, it
failed. So be it. To me all that matters is mine hasnt.
It was a bullshit clickbait video.
"tested" had off-road drive modes that are selectable from the driver's
seat which dramatically change the vehicle's performance over rough
ground, but they weren't used on their "test", and the only conclusion I
can reach there is they deliberately chose not to use them to keep the Toyota relevant as it doesn't have such features and is only equipped
with a 1960's style low range transfer case.
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the results would have been decidedly different :)
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the results would have been decidedly different :)
On 12/08/2025 11:49 am, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 5:54 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 11/08/2025 2:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2025 10:29 am, Noddy wrote:
On 11/08/2025 9:56 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/8/2025 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fffjhvRVmcWonder how much Kia paid them?
Understatement of the century, "it looks a bit weird":-)
I stopped watching very early as it looked like a paid
"infomercial" for Kia composed by a bunch of guys who had no idea
what they were talking about :)
Showed the Ranger up a a bit of a poseur ute and the Hilux as a real
4x4.
Maybe a "bit of a poseur ute" in your eyes, because Noddy has one,
Nothing to do with that dickhead and everything to do with observing
the number of them that evidently have never been near a gravel road
or carried a load.
There's lots of EVERY brand, inc Hilux getting around, that look nice
and clean, Wether they've even been on a dirt track, who knows? how do
you tell? You live in a country town. you'd expect to see dirty utes.
The majority of the country's population live in the city, where the
tradies work during the week and play on weekends.
Not only that, it's the ute of choice for bogans, wankers and the
small cock brigade that like to drive them "enthusiastically" - and
there is daylight between them and second place.
Exactly what I'd expect from the rusted on toyota fanbois.
frothing about bogans wankers and the small cock brigade, as usual, But
all just an opinion. And you know what people says about opinions.. :-D
-a-abut
mines more than capable of getting up that pissy bit of gravel
without a diff lock... and Ranger the top selling 4wd ute for 3 years
now?
Oh, and you forgot *old* between "real and "4wd"...
The Hilux has typically always been a generation behind but that's not
the point of a ute like that. If you need a 4x4, the Hilux is the most
capable of the lot. Still.
I dont disagree. I cant. I've never-a driven a hilux in 4wd. I use mine
in 4x4 when required. Perhaps 5% of the time. But i'd be stuffed without
it. Thats why i have it. And it was $10K cheaper and way more modern
than a Hilux.
And that's rather embarrassing for the poseur posse isn't it :-)
Dont know. I'm not a member, I use mine as it's intended. And it's done,
and been, everywhere I've asked of it. That little gravely hill, where
the ranger failed, is an anomaly. Mine could climb that in 4wd lo, no
diff lock, easily. One wonders if he just pushed the go pedal a tad more than required in the right spot for it to fail.. Still, it failed. So be
it. To me all that matters is mine hasnt.
I personally don't care about what ute anyone drives.
On 12/08/2025 11:13 am, Noddy wrote:
Fancy being stupid enough to think a knobled test of *part* of the
vehicles on test's ability is class defining :)
Fancy jumping on the hook so easily. No wonder you're too stupid to work
out how to use a scan tool :-)
On 13/08/2025 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:
I looked at a Hi-lux when I was searching for a new ute a couple of
years ago. I looked at virtually everything on the market because I
don't have a brand preference and wanted to buy whatever I liked best
regardless of who made it. Despite the claims of some I don't hate
Toyotas, and looked at the "Rogue" which was in the same price range
as the V6 Ranger Wildtrak.
Whether the Hi-Lux was better off road or not I couldn't tell you, and
nor could I care, but in *every* other respect the Hi-Lux was *so* far
behind the Ranger it was embarrassing to the point where I wondered
why anyone would want to buy a Hi-Lux and could only ever do so
because they were brand sycophants.
It really was a night and day difference. The Ranger drives like a car.
I remember saying that a little while after I bought mine 4.5 years ago. Still love it's handling, esp with the new Yokohama Geolanders tyres.
The Hi-lux drives like an old truck.
I remember driving old mates 3.0l v6 auto hilux to take some long
roofing iron sheets up the block, 10? years ago? Was nothing
spectacular, probably as comfortable as a navara.. fairly austere...
Exactly.And that's rather embarrassing for the poseur posse isn't it :-)
Dont know. I'm not a member, I use mine as it's intended. And it's
done, and been, everywhere I've asked of it. That little gravely
hill, where the ranger failed, is an anomaly. Mine could climb that
in 4wd lo, no diff lock, easily. One wonders if he just pushed the go
pedal a tad more than required in the right spot for it to fail..
Still, it failed. So be it. To me all that matters is mine hasnt.
It was a bullshit clickbait video.
My thoughts exactly. Never heard of the guys doing the tests, Ranga gets
to go last, and yep, the Ranga's diff lock is instant. No fucking around to-a get it into gear. You get stuck, or get into the slop. press the button, and away you go. On my joint, I know where and where not to go. There are spots where there are no winch spots. :-) 4wd is the best
there is. Or a mobile phone.
-aThree of the four vehicles theyThat's it. I couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks. I bought the
"tested" had off-road drive modes that are selectable from the
driver's seat which dramatically change the vehicle's performance over
rough ground, but they weren't used on their "test", and the only
conclusion I can reach there is they deliberately chose not to use
them to keep the Toyota relevant as it doesn't have such features and
is only equipped with a 1960's style low range transfer case.
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the
results would have been decidedly different :)
yep. I'm still proud of my 4.5 year old Ranga. Still goes wherever i
want it to go, and with minimum of fuss. No matter whatever anyone else says.>
On 13/08/2025 7:11 am, Noddy wrote:
<snip white noise>
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the
results would have been decidedly different :)
How would you know? You weren't there and you've never been all there!
On 13/08/2025 7:11 am, Noddy wrote:
<snip white noise>
Had they tested each vehicle to the full extent of it's capability the
results would have been decidedly different :)
How would you know? You weren't there and you've never been all there!
On 13/08/2025 12:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 12/08/2025 11:13 am, Noddy wrote:
Fancy being stupid enough to think a knobled test of *part* of the
vehicles on test's ability is class defining :)
Fancy jumping on the hook so easily. No wonder you're too stupid to
work out how to use a scan tool :-)
Give it up, beer bottle. There's not a single person here who takes
anything you say seriously. Whatever credibility you may have once had
went straight out the window when you tied your donkey up to the
bullshit wagon train your mental mate was driving.
On 13/08/2025 12:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 12/08/2025 11:13 am, Noddy wrote:
Fancy being stupid enough to think a knobled test of *part* of the
vehicles on test's ability is class defining :)
Fancy jumping on the hook so easily. No wonder you're too stupid to
work out how to use a scan tool :-)
Give it up, beer bottle. There's not a single person here who takes
anything you say seriously.
Whatever credibility you may have once had
went straight out the window when you tied your donkey up to the
bullshit wagon train your mental mate was driving.
On 13/8/2025 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:
How can he tell they've never carried a load? :)
Around here it's easy to pick the poseur utes.
On 13/08/2025 12:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 12/08/2025 11:13 am, Noddy wrote:
Fancy being stupid enough to think a knobled test of *part* of the
vehicles on test's ability is class defining :)
Fancy jumping on the hook so easily. No wonder you're too stupid to
work out how to use a scan tool :-)
Give it up, beer bottle.
On 13/08/2025 6:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 13/08/2025 12:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 12/08/2025 11:13 am, Noddy wrote:
Fancy being stupid enough to think a knobled test of *part* of the
vehicles on test's ability is class defining :)
Fancy jumping on the hook so easily. No wonder you're too stupid to
work out how to use a scan tool :-)
Give it up, beer bottle.
Not a chance, pig eyes.