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https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-sued-
over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd are
next level dodgy.
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd are
next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we live
in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are keen to
believe anything they see online without bothering to check if there is
an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how reputations can be
easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the sake of some idiot who
is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is a
world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd are
next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we live
in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are keen to believe anything they see online without bothering to check if there is
an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how reputations can be
easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the sake of some idiot who
is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd
are next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
Go look at a few articles, and a few youtube videos. You can work it out
for yourself then. Oh, maybe you can't...
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we
live in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are
keen to
And no one excels in bullshit more than you Darren!
believe anything they see online without bothering to check if there
is an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how reputations can be
easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the sake of some idiot
who is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is a
BYD go after people who relate *their personal experience* with BYD
cars, their dealers and the BYD company themselves. In one such case, a mechanic was showing how BYD chassis steel was *soft*. FWIW, BYD cars
are the epitome of Tofu Dreg construction but on wheels.
world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the
pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
Well, you've been spreading misinformation about your qualifications.
Care to clear that up with *proof*? After more than 2 decades of misinformation, it's well beyond due.
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd are
next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we live
in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are keen to believe anything they see online without bothering to check if there is
an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how reputations can be
easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the sake of some idiot who
is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd
are next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we
live in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are
keen to believe anything they see online without bothering to check if
there is an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how reputations
can be easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the sake of some
idiot who is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the
pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a product
was a heap of shit. They do seem quite aggressive about it offering
rewards for tipoffs about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the
pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a product
was a heap of shit.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering
rewards for tipoffs about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to notIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like slaves.
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the
pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be all fake.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
On 9/07/2025 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in
the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the
shit- storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a
product was a heap of shit.
Well, the article briefly mentioned cases where half a dozen people had
been convicted and fined, so on the face of that you have to assume
there is *some* truth to the story.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering rewards for tipoffs
about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I have no idea how their reputation is perceived in the wider community
or how much of this stuff actually goes on, but in today's world it certainly doesn't take a lot for something to be tarnished, and truth doesn't necessarily need to play an active role in that. Look at the anti-vax movement for example.
As for BYD I know little about them other than that they seem to be one
of the higher end Chinese manufacturers who were at the forefront of EV development in China, and who have a number of interesting vehicles currently on the market.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
Lol :)
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to notIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also been
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in
the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the
shit- storm that doing so can bring.
criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD
were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there is
an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be all
fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like to
talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any way
or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but I
wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen
and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple of
years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and never
needed glasses after that.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to notIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also been
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in
the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the
shit- storm that doing so can bring.
criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD
were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there is
an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be all
fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like to
talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any way
or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but I
wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen
and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple of
years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and never
needed glasses after that.
On 9/7/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
So far so good, first time since I was 4yrs old that I haven't needed glasses, 24hrs after surgery I can see well enough to drive if I had toI had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen
and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd be
interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple of
years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and never
needed glasses after that.
but not supposed to for a week.
I saw the eye doctor this morning and he said it can take 4-6 weeks to
fully heal so it will take a while till I fully know how it will end up
but so far very happy.
I'm telling my grandsons to be eye doctors, he told me this morning he
did 13 surgeries on Monday and 23 on Tuesday at $1600 a time, $57600 for
2 days work,-a not a bad earner.
On 9/07/2025 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in
the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the
shit- storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a
product was a heap of shit.
Well, the article briefly mentioned cases where half a dozen people had
been convicted and fined, so on the face of that you have to assume
there is *some* truth to the story.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering rewards for tipoffs
about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I have no idea how their reputation is perceived in the wider community
or how much of this stuff actually goes on, but in today's world it certainly doesn't take a lot for something to be tarnished, and truth doesn't necessarily need to play an active role in that. Look at the anti-vax movement for example.
As for BYD I know little about them other than that they seem to be one
of the higher end Chinese manufacturers who were at the forefront of EV development in China, and who have a number of interesting vehicles currently on the market.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
Lol :)
On 9/7/2025 1:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to
not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But
there is a world of difference between that and deliberately
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare
yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a
product was a heap of shit.
Well, the article briefly mentioned cases where half a dozen people
had been convicted and fined, so on the face of that you have to
assume there is *some* truth to the story.
half a dozen people on Chinese social media *in* China. If you know
anything about China, corporate barons are kings and, as such, the
minnows in Chinese social media haven't a chance in a Chinese court.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering rewards for tipoffs
about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
When a BYD catches fire on the highways in China. or run into something,
the BYD company reps are on hand in minutes. But are they there to help
the people make a claim? No way, they cover up the car and remove all
BYD badges and nameplates in the roughest manner possible. Article,
usually videos, showing the practice have a very finite life on social
media in China, the articles, and sometimes the posters, disappearing
within hours. Often the account from which it is posted also disappears
and sometimes the posters themselves.
I have no idea how their reputation is perceived in the wider
community or how much of this stuff actually goes on, but in today's
world it certainly doesn't take a lot for something to be tarnished,
and truth doesn't necessarily need to play an active role in that.
Look at the anti-vax movement for example.
Funded by the CCP.
As for BYD I know little about them other than that they seem to be
one of the higher end Chinese manufacturers who were at the forefront
of EV development in China, and who have a number of interesting
vehicles currently on the market.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
Lol :)
Yeah, he went broke and is now a poor old pensioner.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to notIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also been
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in
the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the
shit- storm that doing so can bring.
criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD
were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there is
an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be all
fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like to
talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any way
or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but I
wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen
and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple of
years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and never
needed glasses after that.
On 9/07/2025 1:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 1:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to
not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But
there is a world of difference between that and deliberately
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare
yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a
product was a heap of shit.
Well, the article briefly mentioned cases where half a dozen people
had been convicted and fined, so on the face of that you have to
assume there is *some* truth to the story.
half a dozen people on Chinese social media *in* China. If you know
anything about China, corporate barons are kings and, as such, the
minnows in Chinese social media haven't a chance in a Chinese court.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering rewards for tipoffs
about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
When a BYD catches fire on the highways in China. or run into
something, the BYD company reps are on hand in minutes. But are they
there to help the people make a claim? No way, they cover up the car
and remove all BYD badges and nameplates in the roughest manner
possible. Article, usually videos, showing the practice have a very
finite life on social media in China, the articles, and sometimes the
posters, disappearing within hours. Often the account from which it is
posted also disappears and sometimes the posters themselves.
Some reputable cite?
--Episode 250, same as all the others.I have no idea how their reputation is perceived in the wider
community or how much of this stuff actually goes on, but in today's
world it certainly doesn't take a lot for something to be tarnished,
and truth doesn't necessarily need to play an active role in that.
Look at the anti-vax movement for example.
Funded by the CCP.
As for BYD I know little about them other than that they seem to be
one of the higher end Chinese manufacturers who were at the forefront
of EV development in China, and who have a number of interesting
vehicles currently on the market.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
Lol :)
Yeah, he went broke and is now a poor old pensioner.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime toIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also been
not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But
there is a world of difference between that and deliberately
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare
yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD
were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there is
an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be all
fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like
to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe
very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any
way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but I
wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's been
attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen
and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd be
interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple of
years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and never
needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in December, so
I'll make up my mind then.
Episode 250, same as all the others.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
Lol :)
Yeah, he went broke and is now a poor old pensioner.
On 9/07/2025 1:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
Well, the article briefly mentioned cases where half a dozen people
had been convicted and fined, so on the face of that you have to
assume there is *some* truth to the story.
Dunno, if the cases were in China, I think that you're on a hiding to nothing if a government associated company is taking you on.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering rewards for tipoffs
about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I have no idea how their reputation is perceived in the wider
community or how much of this stuff actually goes on, but in today's
world it certainly doesn't take a lot for something to be tarnished,
and truth doesn't necessarily need to play an active role in that.
Look at the anti-vax movement for example.
As for BYD I know little about them other than that they seem to be
one of the higher end Chinese manufacturers who were at the forefront
of EV development in China, and who have a number of interesting
vehicles currently on the market.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
Seeing a few of them around here, not all the time, but not that rare either.
On 9/07/2025 5:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 1:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
Well, the article briefly mentioned cases where half a dozen people
had been convicted and fined, so on the face of that you have to
assume there is *some* truth to the story.
Dunno, if the cases were in China, I think that you're on a hiding to
nothing if a government associated company is taking you on.
Probably.
They do seem quite aggressive about it offering rewards for tipoffs
about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I have no idea how their reputation is perceived in the wider
community or how much of this stuff actually goes on, but in today's
world it certainly doesn't take a lot for something to be tarnished,
and truth doesn't necessarily need to play an active role in that.
Look at the anti-vax movement for example.
As for BYD I know little about them other than that they seem to be
one of the higher end Chinese manufacturers who were at the forefront
of EV development in China, and who have a number of interesting
vehicles currently on the market.
Such as the Shark 6 PHEV which won a COTY award for 2024.
Seeing a few of them around here, not all the time, but not that rare
either.
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a
reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was at the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the new Tasman
ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was that it's a lot
bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second was that it's a lot
uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, and I wouldn't have thought
that was possible :)
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a
reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was at
the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the new
Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was that it's a
lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second was that it's a
lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, and I wouldn't have
thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever seen:-)
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a
reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was at
the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the new
Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was that it's
a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second was that it's
a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, and I wouldn't have
thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next time
you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime toIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But
there is a world of difference between that and deliberately
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare
yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like
slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD
were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there
is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be
all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like
to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe
very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any
way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but
I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's
been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen
and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd
be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple
of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. ButIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
there is a world of difference between that and deliberately
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare
yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like
slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD >>>>> were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there
is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be >>>>> all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like
to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe
very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any
way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but
I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's
been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen >>>>> and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd
be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple
of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next time
you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full of arseholes.
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:You didnrCOt mention retinopathy just cataracts.
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But >>>>>>> there is a world of difference between that and deliberatelyIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like >>>>>> slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD >>>>>> were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there >>>>>> is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be >>>>>> all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like >>>>> to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe >>>>> very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any
way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but >>>>> I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's
been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen >>>>>> and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd
be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple
of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a
reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was at
the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the new
Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was that it's
a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second was that it's
a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, and I wouldn't have
thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next time
you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full of arseholes.
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. ButIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
there is a world of difference between that and deliberately
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare
yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like
slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD >>>>> were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there
is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be >>>>> all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like
to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe
very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any
way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but
I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's
been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd
be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple
of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
On 10/07/2025 9:23 am, Xeno wrote:
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:You didnrCOt mention retinopathy just cataracts.
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But >>>>>>>> there is a world of difference between that and deliberatelyIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also >>>>>>> been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like >>>>>>> slaves.
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because BYD >>>>>>> were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there >>>>>>> is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to be >>>>>>> all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services like >>>>>> to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I believe >>>>>> very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any >>>>>> way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films, but >>>>>> I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit that's >>>>>> been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the screen >>>>>>> and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd >>>>>> be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple >>>>>> of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
I don't have it, but it's always a possibility.
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But >>>>>>> there is a world of difference between that and deliberatelyIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like >>>>>> slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because
BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there >>>>>> is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to
be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services
like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I
believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any >>>>> way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films,
but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit
that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd >>>>> be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple >>>>> of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have been
for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in time
I'd say it was worth every cent.
On 10/07/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next time
you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
None of them are pretty at all. But as with anything there are varying degrees of ugly. The Kia Tasman however takes "ugly" to a whole new level.
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have been
for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in time
I'd say it was worth every cent.
On 10/07/2025 10:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
None of them are pretty at all. But as with anything there are varying
degrees of ugly. The Kia Tasman however takes "ugly" to a whole new
level.
Right behind is the Ineos Grenadier
https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/au/
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/51297e5de4b01fa6748bc904/1740958363569-OEDOLQF08BBV4HR8AZT8/DSC02704.jpg?format=2500w--
On 10/07/2025 2:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can
almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
Excellent. I'd happily pay that per eye just for the privilege of going without glasses.
On 10/07/2025 3:38 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 10/07/2025 10:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
None of them are pretty at all. But as with anything there are
varying degrees of ugly. The Kia Tasman however takes "ugly" to a
whole new level.
Right behind is the Ineos Grenadier
https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/au/
Yeah, I dunno. The Tasman looks like it fell out of the ugly tree from
the top, hit every branch on the way down and then went into a coma
where it spend a couple of years on life support.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/
v1/51297e5de4b01fa6748bc904/1740958363569-OEDOLQF08BBV4HR8AZT8/
DSC02704.jpg?format=2500w
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a
reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was at >>>>> the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the new
Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was that
it's a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second was
that it's a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, and I
wouldn't have thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next time
you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
To a point I agree that in general utes aren't good looking vehicles but
Kia seems to have gone out of their way to make theirs as ugly as possible.
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But >>>>>>> there is a world of difference between that and deliberatelyIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like >>>>>> slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because
BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there >>>>>> is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to
be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services
like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I
believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any >>>>> way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films,
but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit
that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd >>>>> be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple >>>>> of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have been
for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in time
I'd say it was worth every cent.
On 10/07/2025 1:52 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:Utes have gone away from their roots, the Holden, Ford, and original
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a
reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was
at the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the
new Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was
that it's a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second
was that it's a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, and >>>>>> I wouldn't have thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
To a point I agree that in general utes aren't good looking vehicles
but Kia seems to have gone out of their way to make theirs as ugly as
possible.
Hilux were working vehicles, now they are a "Lifestyle choice". Most of
the ones I see around here have never and probably never will work for a living.
On 10/7/2025 5:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 10/07/2025 1:52 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:Utes have gone away from their roots, the Holden, Ford, and original
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a >>>>>>> reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was >>>>>>> at the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the >>>>>>> new Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was
that it's a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second >>>>>>> was that it's a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics,
and I wouldn't have thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
To a point I agree that in general utes aren't good looking vehicles
but Kia seems to have gone out of their way to make theirs as ugly as
possible.
Hilux were working vehicles, now they are a "Lifestyle choice". Most
of the ones I see around here have never and probably never will work
for a
living.
In part due to no fringe benefit tax on vehicles with more than 1 tonne
load capacity, be interesting if their popularity would decline if that
tax break was taken away.
In a way they are the ultimate family vehicle, can carry 4 people in
comfort whilst towing a decent load with a tonne in the tub, not my cup
of tea but I get why people like them, nothing else is as versatile.
On 10/07/2025 5:37 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 5:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 10/07/2025 1:52 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:Utes have gone away from their roots, the Holden, Ford, and original
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a >>>>>>>> reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was >>>>>>>> at the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the >>>>>>>> new Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was >>>>>>>> that it's a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second >>>>>>>> was that it's a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics, >>>>>>>> and I wouldn't have thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever >>>>>>> seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the >>>>> other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat
full of arseholes.
To a point I agree that in general utes aren't good looking vehicles
but Kia seems to have gone out of their way to make theirs as ugly
as possible.
Hilux were working vehicles, now they are a "Lifestyle choice". Most
of the ones I see around here have never and probably never will work
for a
living.
I've had couple of Ford utes... a xg Longreach tub, a BF XF6 cab chassis
(1 of 400) and a FG column shift cab chassis ! :-D-a Then the Ranger...>
In part due to no fringe benefit tax on vehicles with more than 1
tonne load capacity, be interesting if their popularity would decline
if that tax break was taken away.
:-D When my accountant asked about that with the Ranga, i simply said " Sure! Ally tray v steel tub = 965kg (made it up, as you would).-a I'm
sure i heard him snort a gobbie, but as he was a forensic accountant for
the ATO, so it passed :-D
But yes, the best chariot that suits *me* perfectly. Carry's a tonne in
the back, can carry 5 Pax, 800mm wading depth, can tow (rather than
drag, tommy :-D ) 3 tonne, economical (this weekend; here(home) to Bairnsdale and back, with a little side trip to the Lindenow pub and the block) 63L.
Would I have another Ranga with a tray? Shit yeah. Already thought about
it, but just fitted $1600 of tyres, coming up to it's 50k service, the
last at Ford, and it's free, :-D I've no reason to put this bus up for
sale.
In a way they are the ultimate family vehicle, can carry 4 people in
comfort whilst towing a decent load with a tonne in the tub, not my
cup of tea but I get why people like them, nothing else is as versatile.
Family now? Not so much.. kids have their own cars and their own plans
now. But as a family bus, yes, it's been brilliant.. 4 pax, fishing
gear, kids scooters, weber bbq's, all the shit you take away on a family drive holiday (to Narooma NSW, so many times) Now i get to do what I
want, when I want, and the Ranga is STILL the chariot of choice.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
On 10/7/2025 4:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 2:00 pm, Daryl wrote:One of the problems I had was night driving, no problem when there were
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you
get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my
keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
Excellent. I'd happily pay that per eye just for the privilege of
going without glasses.
no other cars around but the glare from headlights or even some tail
lights was terrible so I will be interested to find out if that has improved.
I've had glasses for so long I can't remember not wearing them so I
didn't think not needing glasses would be a big deal but it absolutely
is, save an hour a day not spending time constantly cleaning the bloody things:-)
On 10/07/2025 4:09 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 3:38 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 10/07/2025 10:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever >>>>>>> seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the >>>>> other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat
full of arseholes.
None of them are pretty at all. But as with anything there are
varying degrees of ugly. The Kia Tasman however takes "ugly" to a
whole new level.
Right behind is the Ineos Grenadier
https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/au/
Yeah, I dunno. The Tasman looks like it fell out of the ugly tree from
the top, hit every branch on the way down and then went into a coma
where it spend a couple of years on life support.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/
v1/51297e5de4b01fa6748bc904/1740958363569-OEDOLQF08BBV4HR8AZT8/
DSC02704.jpg?format=2500w
Yep. that has a bad dose of the fuglies. And so many Aussie sports stars
put their name to it in the ads.. I'd be embarrassed. Like owning a
T-60... >
On 10/7/2025 5:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 10/07/2025 1:52 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:Utes have gone away from their roots, the Holden, Ford, and original
On 9/07/2025 11:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 9:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 9:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but on paper they look like a >>>>>>> reasonable amount of kit for the price. On the other hand, I was >>>>>>> at the local Kia dealer last Friday and had a good look over the >>>>>>> new Tasman ute, and was surprised by two things. The first was
that it's a lot bigger than it looks in the pics, and the second >>>>>>> was that it's a lot uglier in the flesh than it looks in pics,
and I wouldn't have thought that was possible :)
That seems impossible, its one of teh ugliest vehicles I've ever
seen:-)
Same :)
They have one propped out the front of Harrisons in Melton. Next
time you go past try not to look at it. It's vomit inducing :)
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look worse to me that any of the
other current utes, they're all as pretty as the proverbial hat full
of arseholes.
To a point I agree that in general utes aren't good looking vehicles
but Kia seems to have gone out of their way to make theirs as ugly as
possible.
Hilux were working vehicles, now they are a "Lifestyle choice". Most
of the ones I see around here have never and probably never will work
for a
living.
In part due to no fringe benefit tax on vehicles with more than 1 tonne
load capacity, be interesting if their popularity would decline if that
tax break was taken away.
In a way they are the ultimate family vehicle, can carry 4 people in
comfort whilst towing a decent load with a tonne in the tub, not my cup
of tea but I get why people like them, nothing else is as versatile.
On 10/07/2025 12:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. >>>>>>>> But there is a world of difference between that and deliberately >>>>>>>> spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false >>>>>>>> information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.Its not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also >>>>>>> been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers
like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD
there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for >>>>>>> it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services
like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I >>>>>> believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in
any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or
films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the >>>>>> shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so
I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a
couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a
week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms >>>>> that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can
almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
What the actual fuck? You might have been blind but they saw you coming.
On 10/07/2025 4:30 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 4:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 2:00 pm, Daryl wrote:One of the problems I had was night driving, no problem when there
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you
get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my
keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
Excellent. I'd happily pay that per eye just for the privilege of
going without glasses.
were no other cars around but the glare from headlights or even some
tail lights was terrible so I will be interested to find out if that
has improved.
Yeah, I get that a little.
I've had glasses for so long I can't remember not wearing them so I
didn't think not needing glasses would be a big deal but it absolutely
is, save an hour a day not spending time constantly cleaning the
bloody things:-)
Putting them down and forgetting where they are is my thing. I waste so
much time looking for them :)
On 10/7/2025 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 4:30 pm, Daryl wrote:LOL, never had that problem before because unless I was in bed or in the shower they were always on my face but now that I only need them for
On 10/7/2025 4:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 2:00 pm, Daryl wrote:One of the problems I had was night driving, no problem when there
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses
you get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see
my keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have >>>>> been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very >>>>> happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
Excellent. I'd happily pay that per eye just for the privilege of
going without glasses.
were no other cars around but the glare from headlights or even some
tail lights was terrible so I will be interested to find out if that
has improved.
Yeah, I get that a little.
I've had glasses for so long I can't remember not wearing them so I
didn't think not needing glasses would be a big deal but it
absolutely is, save an hour a day not spending time constantly
cleaning the bloody things:-)
Putting them down and forgetting where they are is my thing. I waste
so much time looking for them :)
reading finding them could be a problem:-)
On 11/07/2025 11:10 am, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:I just hook my reading glasses in the collar of my T-shirt.
On 10/07/2025 4:30 pm, Daryl wrote:LOL, never had that problem before because unless I was in bed or in
On 10/7/2025 4:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 10/07/2025 2:00 pm, Daryl wrote:One of the problems I had was night driving, no problem when there
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I >>>>>> can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses
you get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see >>>>>> my keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I
have been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm
very happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in >>>>>> time I'd say it was worth every cent.
Excellent. I'd happily pay that per eye just for the privilege of
going without glasses.
were no other cars around but the glare from headlights or even some
tail lights was terrible so I will be interested to find out if that
has improved.
Yeah, I get that a little.
I've had glasses for so long I can't remember not wearing them so I
didn't think not needing glasses would be a big deal but it
absolutely is, save an hour a day not spending time constantly
cleaning the bloody things:-)
Putting them down and forgetting where they are is my thing. I waste
so much time looking for them :)
the shower they were always on my face but now that I only need them
for reading finding them could be a problem:-)
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to >>>>>>> not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But >>>>>>> there is a world of difference between that and deliberatelyIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also
spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false
information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.
been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers like >>>>>> slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because
BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD there >>>>>> is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for it to
be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services
like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I
believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in any >>>>> way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or films,
but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the shit
that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so I'd >>>>> be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a couple >>>>> of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a week and
never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms
that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have been
for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in time
I'd say it was worth every cent.
On 11/07/2025 11:10 am, Daryl wrote:
I just hook my reading glasses in the collar of my T-shirt.Putting them down and forgetting where they are is my thing. I wasteLOL, never had that problem before because unless I was in bed or in
so much time looking for them :)
the shower they were always on my face but now that I only need them
for reading finding them could be a problem:-)
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. >>>>>>>> But there is a world of difference between that and deliberately >>>>>>>> spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false >>>>>>>> information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.Its not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also >>>>>>> been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers
like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD
there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for >>>>>>> it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services
like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I >>>>>> believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in
any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or
films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the >>>>>> shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so
I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a
couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a
week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms >>>>> that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can
almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement. finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in the eye,
then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.) Got
stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent (still need readers sometimes)
-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
On 11/07/2025 12:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 11/07/2025 11:10 am, Daryl wrote:
I just hook my reading glasses in the collar of my T-shirt.Putting them down and forgetting where they are is my thing. I wasteLOL, never had that problem before because unless I was in bed or in
so much time looking for them :)
the shower they were always on my face but now that I only need them
for reading finding them could be a problem:-)
I used to use lanyards but they were forever getting caught on stuff.
Now I just have lots of pairs of glasses laying around everywhere.
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. >>>>>>>> But there is a world of difference between that and deliberately >>>>>>>> spreading misinformation, and if you're going to spread false >>>>>>>> information in the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare >>>>>>>> yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can bring.Its not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also >>>>>>> been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers
like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD
there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for >>>>>>> it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that
everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services
like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I >>>>>> believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in
any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or
films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the >>>>>> shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the
screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so
I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a
couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a
week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the symptoms >>>>> that people have described to me. I'm seeing the specialist in
December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I can
almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you get
from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my keyboard
but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement. finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in the eye,
then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.) Got
stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent (still need readers sometimes)
-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
On 11/7/2025 8:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 11/07/2025 12:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 11/07/2025 11:10 am, Daryl wrote:
I just hook my reading glasses in the collar of my T-shirt.Putting them down and forgetting where they are is my thing. ILOL, never had that problem before because unless I was in bed or in
waste so much time looking for them :)
the shower they were always on my face but now that I only need them
for reading finding them could be a problem:-)
I used to use lanyards but they were forever getting caught on stuff.
Now I just have lots of pairs of glasses laying around everywhere.
Eye doctor said to just buy the cheap glasses from the chemist, so far
those are okay for reading.
At less than $10 a pair it won't be a big deal if I lose or break them.
On 11/07/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
My wife is essentially blind in one eye, and she has to have an
injection in her "Good" eye every couple of months. That's a needle
directly into the eyeball, makes me cringe to think about it. She can't drive anymore, failed her 75+ annual eye test, I was surprised that she passed the previous one.
I used to use lanyards but they were forever getting caught on stuff.
Now I just have lots of pairs of glasses laying around everywhere.
Eye doctor said to just buy the cheap glasses from the chemist, so far
those are okay for reading.
At less than $10 a pair it won't be a big deal if I lose or break them.
On 10/7/2025 6:50 pm, lindsay wrote:
I've had couple of Ford utes... a xg Longreach tub, a BF XF6 cab
chassis (1 of 400) and a FG column shift cab chassis ! :-D-a Then the
Ranger...>
In part due to no fringe benefit tax on vehicles with more than 1
tonne load capacity, be interesting if their popularity would decline
if that tax break was taken away.
:-D When my accountant asked about that with the Ranga, i simply said
" Sure! Ally tray v steel tub = 965kg (made it up, as you would).-a I'm
sure i heard him snort a gobbie, but as he was a forensic accountant
for the ATO, so it passed :-D
Accountants can be a funny lot, some will question everything making you think that they work for the ATO not their client, others don't give a
shit and let you claim what you want.
I swear my last accountant worked for the ATO, should have stayed with
the previous one.
But yes, the best chariot that suits *me* perfectly. Carry's a tonne
in the back, can carry 5 Pax, 800mm wading depth, can tow (rather than
drag, tommy :-D ) 3 tonne, economical (this weekend; here(home) to
Bairnsdale and back, with a little side trip to the Lindenow pub and
the block) 63L.
Would I have another Ranga with a tray? Shit yeah. Already thought
about it, but just fitted $1600 of tyres, coming up to it's 50k
service, the last at Ford, and it's free, :-D I've no reason to put
this bus up for sale.
If it suits your needs perfectly then why would you.
On 11/07/2025 9:29 pm, Daryl wrote:
I used to use lanyards but they were forever getting caught on stuff.
Now I just have lots of pairs of glasses laying around everywhere.
Eye doctor said to just buy the cheap glasses from the chemist, so far
those are okay for reading.
At less than $10 a pair it won't be a big deal if I lose or break them.
Check out the $2.00 shops for the cheapies. i've pairs of 150's
everywhere, bedroom, study, ute, block, wifes handbag, everywhere! Sell
for $3.00 a pair.
But: once forgot to pack some on a cruise. Bought a pair at a $2.00 shop
on Kangaroo Island. $20. Captive market. Fucking rip-offs. :-D>
On 11/07/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. >>>>>>>>> But there is a world of difference between that andIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also >>>>>>>> been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers >>>>>>>> like slaves.
deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're going to >>>>>>>>> spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you >>>>>>>>> should prepare yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can >>>>>>>>> bring.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD
there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for >>>>>>>> it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that >>>>>>> everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services >>>>>>> like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I >>>>>>> believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in >>>>>>> any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or
films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the >>>>>>> shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so >>>>>>> I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a >>>>>>> couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a >>>>>>> week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you
get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my
keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
My wife is essentially blind in one eye, and she has to have an
injection in her "Good" eye every couple of months. That's a needle
directly into the eyeball, makes me cringe to think about it. She can't drive anymore, failed her 75+ annual eye test, I was surprised that she passed the previous one.
On 11/07/2025 9:29 pm, Daryl wrote:
I used to use lanyards but they were forever getting caught on stuff.
Now I just have lots of pairs of glasses laying around everywhere.
Eye doctor said to just buy the cheap glasses from the chemist, so far
those are okay for reading.
At less than $10 a pair it won't be a big deal if I lose or break them.
Check out the $2.00 shops for the cheapies. i've pairs of 150's
everywhere, bedroom, study, ute, block, wifes handbag, everywhere! Sell
for $3.00 a pair.
But: once forgot to pack some on a cruise. Bought a pair at a $2.00 shop
on Kangaroo Island. $20. Captive market. Fucking rip-offs. :-D>
On 11/7/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your bag. >>>>>>>>> But there is a world of difference between that andIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have also >>>>>>>> been criticized by Amnesty International for treating workers >>>>>>>> like slaves.
deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're going to >>>>>>>>> spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you >>>>>>>>> should prepare yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can >>>>>>>>> bring.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD
there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices for >>>>>>>> it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that >>>>>>> everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services >>>>>>> like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where I >>>>>>> believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in >>>>>>> any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or
films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of the >>>>>>> shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so >>>>>>> I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a >>>>>>> couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a >>>>>>> week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you
get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my
keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
The surgeon told me how he did mine, suck the old one out with a needle
then inject the new one in, no black eye,
drops I was also given a sedative so I would stay still.
Painless easy process, I could actually see the surgeon doing something
but I felt no pain.
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
I've had a "lazy" left eye all my life, I can still see with my left eye
but its never been clear, never had an issue with Vic Roads being able
to drive, just have had to always wear glasses.
I don't know what the process is but since I don't need glasses for
driving anymore I will try and get the condition (must wear spectacles) removed from my license.
So far my eye sight is the best its been in at least 30yrs maybe even longer.
I was told to wait at least 4-6 weeks before I get tested to see if I
need reading glasses.
On 11-Jul-25 9:26 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 11/7/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your >>>>>>>>>> bag. But there is a world of difference between that andIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have >>>>>>>>> also been criticized by Amnesty International for treating
deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're going to >>>>>>>>>> spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you >>>>>>>>>> should prepare yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can >>>>>>>>>> bring.
workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD >>>>>>>>> there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices >>>>>>>>> for it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that >>>>>>>> everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services >>>>>>>> like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where >>>>>>>> I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in >>>>>>>> any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or >>>>>>>> films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of >>>>>>>> the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so >>>>>>>> I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a >>>>>>>> couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a >>>>>>>> week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you
get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my
keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
The surgeon told me how he did mine, suck the old one out with a
needle then inject the new one in, no black eye,
-aas well as anesthetic eye
drops I was also given a sedative so I would stay still.
Painless easy process, I could actually see the surgeon doing
something but I felt no pain.
-aThats the way it was done the first time, i was pretty well out of it when wheeled in. Knew nothing until it was tea and bikky time..
-ariUThis time, injections were in the area around the eye, and they were way up on the pain register.
-a Also,The 'pocket' they drop the new lens into was no longer there, so that was why stitches were used.
-a-a I found out There are apparently no nerves in the eyeball itself, by sitting there there watching him snipping and pulling (When removing
them)-a was a bit un nerving. :(
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
I've had a "lazy" left eye all my life, I can still see with my left
eye but its never been clear, never had an issue with Vic Roads being
able to drive, just have had to always wear glasses.
I don't know what the process is but since I don't need glasses for
driving anymore I will try and get the condition (must wear
spectacles) removed from my license.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I did that when the cataracts were first removed, simple appointment
with your optician will sort it!.
So far my eye sight is the best its been in at least 30yrs maybe even
longer.
-a Its a revelation eh!. ;)
I was told to wait at least 4-6 weeks before I get tested to see if I
need reading glasses.
-a I`ve always worn el-cheapos from the reject shop, but as time goes on after this last op. i find I`m needing them less and less.
On 12/7/2025 12:10 pm, jonz wrote:
On 11-Jul-25 9:26 PM, Daryl wrote:I bet, if it wasn't for the very relaxing sedative they gave me I might
On 11/7/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a >>>>>>>>>>> crime to not like something and telling people so if that's >>>>>>>>>>> your bag. But there is a world of difference between that and >>>>>>>>>>> deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're going to >>>>>>>>>>> spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then >>>>>>>>>>> you should prepare yourself for the shit- storm that doing so >>>>>>>>>>> can bring.Its not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have >>>>>>>>>> also been criticized by Amnesty International for treating >>>>>>>>>> workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down
because BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD >>>>>>>>>> there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices >>>>>>>>>> for it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that >>>>>>>>> everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services >>>>>>>>> like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where >>>>>>>>> I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in >>>>>>>>> any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or >>>>>>>>> films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of >>>>>>>>> the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so >>>>>>>>> I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done >>>>>>>>> a couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over >>>>>>>>> a week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses
you get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see
my keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have >>>>> been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very >>>>> happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
The surgeon told me how he did mine, suck the old one out with a
needle then inject the new one in, no black eye,
-a-aas well as anesthetic eye
drops I was also given a sedative so I would stay still.
Painless easy process, I could actually see the surgeon doing
something but I felt no pain.
-a-aThats the way it was done the first time, i was pretty well out of
it when wheeled in. Knew nothing until it was tea and bikky time..
-a-ariUThis time, injections were in the area around the eye, and they
were way up on the pain register.
-a-a Also,The 'pocket' they drop the new lens into was no longer there,
so that was why stitches were used.
-a-a-a I found out There are apparently no nerves in the eyeball itself,
by sitting there there watching him snipping and pulling (When
removing them)-a was a bit un nerving. :(
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
I've had a "lazy" left eye all my life, I can still see with my left
eye but its never been clear, never had an issue with Vic Roads being
able to drive, just have had to always wear glasses.
I don't know what the process is but since I don't need glasses for
driving anymore I will try and get the condition (must wear
spectacles) removed from my license.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I did that when the cataracts were first removed, simple appointment
with your optician will sort it!.
So far my eye sight is the best its been in at least 30yrs maybe even
longer.
-a-a Its a revelation eh!. ;)
I was told to wait at least 4-6 weeks before I get tested to see if I
need reading glasses.
-a-a I`ve always worn el-cheapos from the reject shop, but as time goes
on after this last op. i find I`m needing them less and less.
have been a lot more nervous, the doctor referred to it as "happy juice".
On 11/7/2025 9:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 11/07/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime >>>>>>>>>> to not like something and telling people so if that's your >>>>>>>>>> bag. But there is a world of difference between that andIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have >>>>>>>>> also been criticized by Amnesty International for treating
deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're going to >>>>>>>>>> spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then you >>>>>>>>>> should prepare yourself for the shit- storm that doing so can >>>>>>>>>> bring.
workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down because >>>>>>>>> BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD >>>>>>>>> there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices >>>>>>>>> for it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that >>>>>>>> everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services >>>>>>>> like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where >>>>>>>> I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in >>>>>>>> any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or >>>>>>>> films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of >>>>>>>> the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so >>>>>>>> I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done a >>>>>>>> couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over a >>>>>>>> week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses you
get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see my
keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have
been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very
happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4
May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
My wife is essentially blind in one eye, and she has to have an
injection in her "Good" eye every couple of months. That's a needle
directly into the eyeball, makes me cringe to think about it. She
can't drive anymore, failed her 75+ annual eye test, I was surprised
that she passed the previous one.
Doesn't sound pleasant but by the sound of it she still has some sight.
A recent fatal accident in Vic has got the Govt thinking about looking
into tests for older drivers, no details have emerged yet but maybe
similar to Qld which is AFAIK an eye and basic medical test?
On 12-Jul-25 1:35 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 12/7/2025 12:10 pm, jonz wrote:
On 11-Jul-25 9:26 PM, Daryl wrote:I bet, if it wasn't for the very relaxing sedative they gave me I
On 11/7/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a >>>>>>>>>>>> crime to not like something and telling people so if that's >>>>>>>>>>>> your bag. But there is a world of difference between that >>>>>>>>>>>> and deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're >>>>>>>>>>>> going to spread false information in the pursuit ofIts not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have >>>>>>>>>>> also been criticized by Amnesty International for treating >>>>>>>>>>> workers like slaves.
popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit- >>>>>>>>>>>> storm that doing so can bring.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down >>>>>>>>>>> because BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD >>>>>>>>>>> there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices >>>>>>>>>>> for it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting >>>>>>>>>> that everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news >>>>>>>>>> services like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point >>>>>>>>>> now where I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers >>>>>>>>>> in any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books >>>>>>>>>> or films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% >>>>>>>>>> of the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, >>>>>>>>>> so I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it >>>>>>>>>> done a couple of years ago and she recovered completely in >>>>>>>>>> just over a week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I >>>>>> can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses
you get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see >>>>>> my keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I
have been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm
very happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in >>>>>> time I'd say it was worth every cent.
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May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about
10yrs ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue! >>>>> -a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops
in the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye
ever.) Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
The surgeon told me how he did mine, suck the old one out with a
needle then inject the new one in, no black eye,
-a-aas well as anesthetic eye
drops I was also given a sedative so I would stay still.
Painless easy process, I could actually see the surgeon doing
something but I felt no pain.
-a-aThats the way it was done the first time, i was pretty well out of
it when wheeled in. Knew nothing until it was tea and bikky time..
-a-ariUThis time, injections were in the area around the eye, and they
were way up on the pain register.
-a-a Also,The 'pocket' they drop the new lens into was no longer there, >>> so that was why stitches were used.
-a-a-a I found out There are apparently no nerves in the eyeball itself, >>> by sitting there there watching him snipping and pulling (When
removing them)-a was a bit un nerving. :(
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent >>>>> (still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
I've had a "lazy" left eye all my life, I can still see with my left
eye but its never been clear, never had an issue with Vic Roads
being able to drive, just have had to always wear glasses.
I don't know what the process is but since I don't need glasses for
driving anymore I will try and get the condition (must wear
spectacles) removed from my license.
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I did that when the cataracts were first removed, simple appointment
with your optician will sort it!.
So far my eye sight is the best its been in at least 30yrs maybe
even longer.
-a-a Its a revelation eh!. ;)
I was told to wait at least 4-6 weeks before I get tested to see if
I need reading glasses.
-a-a I`ve always worn el-cheapos from the reject shop, but as time goes >>> on after this last op. i find I`m needing them less and less.
might have been a lot more nervous, the doctor referred to it as
"happy juice".
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After the first two implants, (no pain, no probs.) I wasn`t ready for
the way they did this one...
On 12/07/2025 10:28 am, Daryl wrote:
On 11/7/2025 9:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:Being diabetic, I've had to do annual medicals for years both here and
On 11/07/2025 2:29 pm, jonz wrote:
On 10/07/2025 14:00, Daryl wrote:
On 10/7/2025 9:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 6:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 9/7/2025 5:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:The cataracts aren't a worry, retinopathy is.
On 9/07/2025 1:38 pm, Noddy wrote:If you don't have the symptoms, don't get them done.
On 9/07/2025 1:20 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a >>>>>>>>>>> crime to not like something and telling people so if that's >>>>>>>>>>> your bag. But there is a world of difference between that and >>>>>>>>>>> deliberately spreading misinformation, and if you're going to >>>>>>>>>>> spread false information in the pursuit of popularity then >>>>>>>>>>> you should prepare yourself for the shit- storm that doing so >>>>>>>>>>> can bring.Its not just them suing people about bad reviews, they have >>>>>>>>>> also been criticized by Amnesty International for treating >>>>>>>>>> workers like slaves.
They set up a plant in Brazil and the Govt shut it down
because BYD were under paying the workers.
I know the world is full of fake news but in the case of BYD >>>>>>>>>> there is an awful lot of stories about their dodgy practices >>>>>>>>>> for it to be all fake.
The snowball effect can be strong. Not that I'm suggesting that >>>>>>>>> everything about BYD is fake, but we all know how news services >>>>>>>>> like to talk shit up these days, and I'm at the point now where >>>>>>>>> I believe very little unless I see it myself.
Look at J.K. Rolling for example. Not that I'm a fan of hers in >>>>>>>>> any way or have seen or read any of the Harry Potter books or >>>>>>>>> films, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if less than 10% of >>>>>>>>> the shit that's been attributed to her is genuine.
I had cataract surgery yesterday so I'm struggling to see the >>>>>>>>>> screen and keyboard till i get new reading glasses.
I'll be due for it myself in the next couple of years or so, so >>>>>>>>> I'd be interested to see how you get on. My mother had it done >>>>>>>>> a couple of years ago and she recovered completely in just over >>>>>>>>> a week and never needed glasses after that.
I'm told that I have cataracts, but I don't see any of the
symptoms that people have described to me. I'm seeing the
specialist in December, so I'll make up my mind then.
Day 2 after surgery and my vision is getting better by the hour, I
can almost go totally without glasses, using those cheap glasses
you get from a chemist so I can read but yesterday I couldn't see
my keyboard but today I can see it clearly.
I was told not to drive for a week but I can see better than I have >>>>> been for 30 years so I could drive safely if I had to.
I admit I was skeptical about getting mine done but so far I'm very >>>>> happy that I did.
Out of pocket cost me about $3200 for one eye but at this point in
time I'd say it was worth every cent.
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May have mentioned this previously. I had both eyes done about 10yrs
ago. Last Oct. my left eye went to a blur, just out of the blue!
-a-a-a Long story short, implant had moved,and needed replacement.
finally had the op. (Canberra) early may. (Three anesthetic drops in
the eye, then in with the needle, faaaark!. Biggest black eye ever.)
Got stitch`s. (Canabrava technique) out last week finally..
-a-a-a-a Vision was good day after op, then regressed. Now excellent
(still need readers sometimes)
-a-a-a Hopefully its done with now!!!. Over six months of one eyed
driving (including an argument with the RTA along the way.) was a
pain.-a Glad that`s over. ;)
My wife is essentially blind in one eye, and she has to have an
injection in her "Good" eye every couple of months. That's a needle
directly into the eyeball, makes me cringe to think about it. She
can't drive anymore, failed her 75+ annual eye test, I was surprised
that she passed the previous one.
Doesn't sound pleasant but by the sound of it she still has some sight.
A recent fatal accident in Vic has got the Govt thinking about looking
into tests for older drivers, no details have emerged yet but maybe
similar to Qld which is AFAIK an eye and basic medical test?
in NSW. I just have to assure the doctor that I still know which way is
up, that I don't have random hypos, and do a basic eye test. The wife's
case was different, since she is under the care of an eye specialist,
she had to see him about the vision test. He said no way, which was a
bit of a relief since I was beginning to doubt her safety on the road.
It does mean that I am now the chauffeur of course which can be a bit of
a PITA.
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd
are next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we
live in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are
keen to believe anything they see online without bothering to check if
there is an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how reputations
can be easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the sake of some
idiot who is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in the
pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the shit-
storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a product
was a heap of shit. They do seem quite aggressive about it offering
rewards for tipoffs about what they consider defamation or disinformation.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
On 9/07/2025 11:15 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 9/07/2025 11:04 am, Noddy wrote:
On 9/07/2025 10:41 am, Daryl wrote:
On 8/7/2025 9:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/05/byd-hits-back-37-influencers-
sued- over-online-defamation-690000-usd-rewards-for-leads/
I posted something similar a week or so ago, very dodgy business
practices, not as if other car companies are squeaky clean but byd
are next level dodgy.
Assuming what was in that article was true, of course.
I have nothing for or against BYD personally, but I'm in favour of
companies taking people to task in situations like this. I mean, we
live in a world full of bullshit these days, and *so* many people are
keen to believe anything they see online without bothering to check
if there is an element of truth to it. It's easy to see how
reputations can be easily and undeservedly smeared, and all for the
sake of some idiot who is chasing likes.
I'm all for people expressing their opinions. It's not a crime to not
like something and telling people so if that's your bag. But there is
a world of difference between that and deliberately spreading
misinformation, and if you're going to spread false information in
the pursuit of popularity then you should prepare yourself for the
shit- storm that doing so can bring.
Without knowing what was actually said, it's difficult to determine
whether it really was defamation, or just someone saying that a
product was a heap of shit. They do seem quite aggressive about it
offering rewards for tipoffs about what they consider defamation or
disinformation.
I wonder how much I could get by dobbing Daryl in :)
Given you're a defamer with credibility lower than dog shit...
