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On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an
earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and
longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute
will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for
their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is
where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic
and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used
to be.
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you failed in
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an
earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and
longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute
will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for
their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is
where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic
and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value
tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used
to be.
business.
On 7/07/2025 12:32 am, Xeno wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:Excuse me but your superiority complex is showing.
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you failed in
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an
earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and
longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute >>>> will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for >>>> their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is
where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic >>> and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value >>> tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used
to be.
business.
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you failed in
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an
earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and
longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute
will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for
their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is
where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic
and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value
tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used
to be.
business.
On 7/07/2025 12:32 am, Xeno wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:Excuse me but your superiority complex is showing.
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an
earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and
longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute >>>> will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for >>>> their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is
where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic >>> and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value >>> tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used
to be.
failed in
business.
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:
On 7/07/2025 12:32 am, Xeno wrote:You are mistaking it for my natural brilliance!
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:Excuse me but your superiority complex is showing.
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you failed in
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an >>>>>>> earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and >>>>>> longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute >>>>> will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for >>>>> their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is >>>>> where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic >>>> and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value >>>> tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used >>>> to be.
business.
On 7/7/2025 9:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
On 7/07/2025 12:32 am, Xeno wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:Excuse me but your superiority complex is showing.
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an >>>>>>> earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and >>>>>> longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute >>>>> will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for >>>>> their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is >>>>> where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very
basic
and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good
value
tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used >>>> to be.
failed in
business.
He also failed basic maths and economics, the price increase isn't just
due to inflation although that is a part it, the biggest increase is due
to Toyota deciding to no longer sell the very base model which was my
point that he missed, the new base model is now much higher spec than
the old.
Entry level used to a 2.7lt 4cyl with a manual trans, now entry level is
a 2.4lt TD, not sure if you can still get a manual but most now seem to
be auto, also get a lot more standard equip.
I suspect that Toyota decided that they weren't making any money from
the very basic Hilux so they decided to drop that model and only sell
higher profit models.
On 7/07/2025 10:36 am, Xeno wrote:
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:
On 7/07/2025 12:32 am, Xeno wrote:You are mistaking it for my natural brilliance!
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:Excuse me but your superiority complex is showing.
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an >>>>>>>> earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and >>>>>>> longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese >>>>>> ute
will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons >>>>>> for
their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is >>>>>> where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very
basic
and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good
value
tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for >>>>> anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to >>>>> other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they
used
to be.
failed in
business.
No.
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:
On 7/07/2025 12:32 am, Xeno wrote:You are mistaking it for my natural brilliance!
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:Excuse me but your superiority complex is showing.
On 1/7/2025 6:13 pm, Noddy wrote:ItrCOs called inflation Daryl. IrCOm beginning to understand why you failed in
On 1/07/2025 1:16 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
Clocky wrote:
Because every mechanic knows that it was, until more recently, an >>>>>>> earned reputation.
yes, tradies have always favored them due to their reliability and >>>>>> longevity, afaik.
Actually Felix reliability and longevity have little to do with
commercial sales, as most commercial vehicles are purchased on a
business lease over a 3 year period and even the shittiest Chinese ute >>>>> will last that long in a work environment. The two biggest reasons for >>>>> their commercial popularity are resale value and feel deals which is >>>>> where Toyota is king.
The biggest selling Hilux used to be the single cab Workmate, very basic >>>> and very cheap, used to cost less than $25k so they were very good value >>>> tradie utes but for some reason Toyota no longer sell base models for
anything like that price.
Cheapest Hilux now cost almost $40k, don't know how that compares to
other makes but they are no longer the basic cheap work horse they used >>>> to be.
business.
____
Xeno