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For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more
autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of
Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?
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On 2025-10-08 14:01, Silvano wrote:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago?

They are there because whatever the EfieEfA- claims to be legal, is legal.

Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

--
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more >autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of >Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago >police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed. Technically, a state's
National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed. It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones. It's political theater.

As to the question about a Chicago policeman shooting a member of the
Texas National Guard, it would described as an act of self-defense by
the Chicago Police Department and an act of insurrection by the Trump administration. Both sides would then do their best to bury the news
and make it go away.

A question not posed, but what if a Texas National Guard member shoots
a Chicago civilian because the guardsman panicked much like what
happened at Kent State in 1970. That question should be asked about
every state in which the National Guard has been sent under Trump's
plan to be seen as "tough on crime".

Being a member of the National Guard in any state is a part-time job
for most. Many attend monthly meetings and once-a-year week-long
camps, but hold regular jobs the rest of the time. They are usually
called out for other duties only when there is a disaster like a flood
or fire.

Their regular job employers are required to continue to employ them
even though they may be on extended duty under Trump's theater move,
but there must be many businesses that simply can't afford to have
certain employees not available for an extended period of time.

In most cases, the employer continues to pay the employee when he's
dispatched, but at a rate that is the employee's regular salary less
what the NG pay. Not good if it's a small business.





It seems that many


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On 08/10/2025 23:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more
autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of
Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed. Technically, a state's National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed. It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones. It's political theater.

As to the question about a Chicago policeman shooting a member of the
Texas National Guard, it would described as an act of self-defense by
the Chicago Police Department and an act of insurrection by the Trump administration. Both sides would then do their best to bury the news
and make it go away.

I suspect a fair number in MAGA would assume that anyone on the
receiving end of a 'Law Enforcement' bullet was demonstrably an Antifa terrorist.
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On 08/10/2025 22:14, lar3ryca wrote:

On 2025-10-08 14:01, Silvano wrote:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more
autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of
Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago?

They are there because whatever the EfieEfA- claims to be legal, is legal.

As of this morning, he is now 'peacemaker' <please insert emoji> as well
as an orange turd.


<snip>

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Although the water is now salty, not fresh. And the pool has not been
scrubbed for a while.
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On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed. Technically, a state's National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed. It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones. It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking includes sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.)




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On 2025-10-08 20:01:01 +0000, Silvano said:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

How do you, as an Italian living in Germany, regard the South Tyrol? I
have been there several times (mainly Schloss Korb, San Paolo), and
have been struck by the fact that although the city of Bolzano is
mainly Italian speaking, the countryside around is 90% German speaking.

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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On 9/10/2025 7:29 p.m., occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago >>> police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed. Technically, a state's
National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed. It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones. It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking includes sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.)

He's desperate to get in under the "peacemaker" clause, since he's
completely failed all the others (meek, merciful, pure in heart, etc.).
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Athel Cornish-Bowden hat am 09.10.2025 um 11:12 geschrieben:

On 2025-10-08 20:01:01 +0000, Silvano said:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but I
had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much more
autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5 regions of
Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South
Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the claims it does not
really belong are very reasonable.)

How do you, as an Italian living in Germany, regard the South Tyrol? I
have been there several times (mainly Schloss Korb, San Paolo), and have
been struck by the fact that although the city of Bolzano is mainly
Italian speaking, the countryside around is 90% German speaking.

Politically, as part of Italy. Culturally, mostly as part of Austria.
They translated many Italian laws into German, but their translations
are full of Austriacisms not always understandable to Germans.

When I was there, I always wondered which language I should use with
people I'd not yet heard speaking. Clues: how they looked like and where
I was at that moment.
Dark-haired waiter in Brixen: Italian.
Woman in Bozen, just outside the Lutheran church: German.
Another dark-haired waiter, but in a village: German. Almost right.
Actually, he was Croatian, but his German was much better than his Italian.
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On 09/10/2025 11:27, Ross Clark wrote:

On 9/10/2025 7:29 p.m., occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much >>>> more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the
Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed.-a Technically, a state's
National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed.-a It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones.-a It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking includes
sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.)

He's desperate to get in under the "peacemaker" clause, since he's
completely failed all the others (meek, merciful, pure in heart, etc.).

I think he is more desperate to get a Nobel Peace prize. This includes
ending an 'unendable war' (sic) between Cambodia and Armenia.

P.S.: If his plan to convert the Gaza strip to a Mediterranean Riviera,
he will also have qualifies for 'meek', "...for the Meek shall inherit
the Gaza strip." (paraphrase of Matthew 5:5)
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On 2025-10-08, Tony Cooper wrote:

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed. Technically, a state's National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed. It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

Abbott "banned DEI" somewhat recently --- those following his orders
should have ripped out all the wheelchair ramps in the governor's
mansion.
--
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first-rate artists will materially raise the level of dramatic taste
of the nation. ---David Sarnoff, CEO of RCA, 1939; in Stoll 1995
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On 2025-10-09 10:59:05 +0000, occam said:

On 09/10/2025 11:27, Ross Clark wrote:

On 9/10/2025 7:29 p.m., occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much >>>>> more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the
Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed.-a Technically, a state's >>>> National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed.-a It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but >>>> at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones.-a It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking includes >>> sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.)

He's desperate to get in under the "peacemaker" clause, since he's
completely failed all the others (meek, merciful, pure in heart, etc.).

I think he is more desperate to get a Nobel Peace prize. This includes
ending an 'unendable war' (sic) between Cambodia and Armenia.

What about brokering the peace treaty between Sark and Heard Island?
Doesn't that deserve a Nobel Prize, or even two?

P.S.: If his plan to convert the Gaza strip to a Mediterranean Riviera,
he will also have qualifies for 'meek', "...for the Meek shall inherit
the Gaza strip." (paraphrase of Matthew 5:5)

Is that still on the cards? It doesn't seem to have been mentioned recently.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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On 09/10/2025 07:29, occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the Chicago >>> police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed. Technically, a state's
National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump,
so he readily agreed. It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities
as war zones. It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking includes sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.)

I assume he is using the Samuel Colt meaning of "Peacemaker".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army
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On 09/10/2025 15:17, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

On 2025-10-09 10:59:05 +0000, occam said:

On 09/10/2025 11:27, Ross Clark wrote:

On 9/10/2025 7:29 p.m., occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago?
Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the
Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them?

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed.-a Technically, a state's >>>>> National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State,
and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump, >>>>> so he readily agreed.-a It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but >>>>> at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities >>>>> as war zones.-a It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking
includes
sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.)

He's desperate to get in under the "peacemaker" clause, since he's
completely failed all the others (meek, merciful, pure in heart, etc.).

I think he is more desperate to get a Nobel Peace prize. This includes
ending an 'unendable war' (sic) between Cambodia and Armenia.

What about brokering the peace treaty between Sark and Heard Island?
Doesn't that deserve a Nobel Prize, or even two?

Not necessary. If Trump annexes both to Trumpistan, 'peace' becomes an unnecessary luxury.

P.S.:-a If his plan to convert the Gaza strip to a Mediterranean Riviera,
he will also have qualifies for 'meek', "...for the Meek shall inherit
the Gaza strip." (paraphrase of Matthew 5:5)

Is that still on the cards? It doesn't seem to have been mentioned
recently.

According to the unofficial terms of the peace treaty, Palestinians will
keep 40% of the Gaza strip. The other 60% presumably belong to Israel
and friends. Trump will revisit his suggestion of having a piece of the
Gaza real-estate. I'm sure he thinks what has been agreed is a "piece
treaty" - a piece of Gaza for Israel, a piece for Trump and friends,...

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On 2025-10-10 09:16:02 +0000, occam said:

On 09/10/2025 15:17, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

On 2025-10-09 10:59:05 +0000, occam said:

On 09/10/2025 11:27, Ross Clark wrote:

On 9/10/2025 7:29 p.m., occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? >>>>>>> Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the >>>>>>> Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them? >>>>>>

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to
Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed.-a Technically, a state's >>>>>> National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State, >>>>>> and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of Trump, >>>>>> so he readily agreed.-a It was actually Abbott who sent the troops, but >>>>>> at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities >>>>>> as war zones.-a It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking
includes
sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.) >>>>>

He's desperate to get in under the "peacemaker" clause, since he's
completely failed all the others (meek, merciful, pure in heart, etc.). >>>

I think he is more desperate to get a Nobel Peace prize. This includes
ending an 'unendable war' (sic) between Cambodia and Armenia.

What about brokering the peace treaty between Sark and Heard Island?
Doesn't that deserve a Nobel Prize, or even two?

Not necessary. If Trump annexes both to Trumpistan, 'peace' becomes an unnecessary luxury.

I have just been listening to the Nobel Committee's announcement. I
expect that there will be lots of ketchup to clean off the walls of Mar-a-Lago.

Incidentally, if they wanted a Spanish-looking name for the place, why
didn't they consult a Spanish speaker?

P.S.:-a If his plan to convert the Gaza strip to a Mediterranean Riviera, >>> he will also have qualifies for 'meek', "...for the Meek shall inherit
the Gaza strip." (paraphrase of Matthew 5:5)

Is that still on the cards? It doesn't seem to have been mentioned
recently.

According to the unofficial terms of the peace treaty, Palestinians will
keep 40% of the Gaza strip. The other 60% presumably belong to Israel
and friends. Trump will revisit his suggestion of having a piece of the
Gaza real-estate. I'm sure he thinks what has been agreed is a "piece
treaty" - a piece of Gaza for Israel, a piece for Trump and friends,...

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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On 10/10/2025 11:37, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

On 2025-10-10 09:16:02 +0000, occam said:

On 09/10/2025 15:17, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

On 2025-10-09 10:59:05 +0000, occam said:

On 09/10/2025 11:27, Ross Clark wrote:

On 9/10/2025 7:29 p.m., occam wrote:

On 09/10/2025 00:50, Tony Cooper wrote:

On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 22:01:01 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

<snip>

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago? >>>>>>>> Much
more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the >>>>>>>> Chicago
police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at them? >>>>>>>

Trump requested that some of the Texas National Guard be sent to >>>>>>> Chicago, and the Texas National Guard agreed.-a Technically, a
state's
National Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the State, >>>>>>> and the Governor of Texas - Greg Abbott (R) - is an acolyte of
Trump,
so he readily agreed.-a It was actually Abbott who sent the
troops, but
at Trump's request.

As to "Why?", it fits with Trump's plan to portray Democratic cities >>>>>>> as war zones.-a It's political theatre.

STOP PRESS <blessed are the peacemakers>. (I assume peacemaking
includes
sending troops to bully the population of Chicago into subjugation.) >>>>>>

He's desperate to get in under the "peacemaker" clause, since he's
completely failed all the others (meek, merciful, pure in heart,
etc.).

I think he is more desperate to get a Nobel Peace prize. This includes >>>> ending an 'unendable war' (sic) between Cambodia and Armenia.

What about brokering the peace treaty between Sark and Heard Island?
Doesn't that deserve a Nobel Prize, or even two?

Not necessary. If Trump annexes both to Trumpistan, 'peace' becomes an
unnecessary luxury.

I have just been listening to the Nobel Committee's announcement. I
expect that there will be lots of ketchup to clean off the walls of Mar- a-Lago.

Never mind the ketchup stains, do you think US tariffs on Norway are
going to be increased to 500% soon? (I do.)



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Athel Cornish-Bowden presented the following explanation :

[...]

I have just been listening to the Nobel Committee's announcement. I expect that there will be lots of ketchup to clean off the walls of Mar-a-Lago.

Incidentally, if they wanted a Spanish-looking name for the place, why didn't
they consult a Spanish speaker?

In the 1930s, New York socialites probably thought they knew more than
enough Spanish. The name predates Trump.

/dps
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On 09/10/25 07:01, Silvano wrote:

For obvious reasons, I am not an expert on the US constitution, but
I had understood (perhaps wrongly) that the 50 US states are much
more autonomous that the 16 states of Germany, let alone the 20.5
regions of Italy. (20.5 because South Tyrol is officially part of Trentino-South Tyrol, but there are so many differences that the
claims it does not really belong are very reasonable.)

Still I wonder. WTF is the Texas national guard doing in Chicago?
Much more serious, what happens if the Illinois national guard or the
Chicago police challenges the Texas national guard or even shoots at
them?

As I understand it, the various National Guards are the result of an
American desire to have "a well regulated militia". The early Usonians
were a bit nervous of the creation of a federation that might gain
control over the states. Thus, each state has a National Guard to guard
the state against the possibility that a tyrant might take over the
federal government.

As we have seen, something went wrong with that plan.
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Newcastle, NSW
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On 2025-10-10 21:03:45 +0000, Snidely said:

Athel Cornish-Bowden presented the following explanation :

[...]

I have just been listening to the Nobel Committee's announcement. I
expect that there will be lots of ketchup to clean off the walls of
Mar-a-Lago.

Incidentally, if they wanted a Spanish-looking name for the place, why
didn't they consult a Spanish speaker?

In the 1930s, New York socialites probably thought they knew more than enough Spanish. The name predates Trump.

Yes, I know.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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