• The curious case of the decline of 'alas'

    From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Mon Oct 6 11:39:11 2025
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    According to Etymonline.com, the use of the word 'alas' has declined
    since the 1800s.

    From the French 'h|-las', it is an expression of regret. "At first an expression of weariness rather than woe."

    Etymonline: https://www.etymonline.com/word/alas


    Ngram usage of the term in English.

    Alas: <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=alas&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false>


    Ngram use of 'h|-las' in French

    <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=h%C3%A9las&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=fr&smoothing=3>


    (No AUE question. Just an expression of weariness rather than woe --
    whatever that means.)
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Mon Oct 6 06:01:38 2025
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    In article <mkhh1vF1c99U1
    @mid.individual.net>,
    occam@nowhere.nix says...
    According to Etymonline.com, the use of the word 'alas' has declined
    since the 1800s.

    From the French 'holas', it is an expression of regret. "At first an expression of weariness rather than woe."

    Etymonline: https://www.etymonline.com/word/alas


    Ngram usage of the term in English.

    Alas: <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=alas&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false>

    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.


    Melissa



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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Mon Oct 6 20:19:06 2025
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <mkhh1vF1c99U1
    @mid.individual.net>,
    occam@nowhere.nix says...
    According to Etymonline.com, the use of the word 'alas' has declined
    since the 1800s.

    From the French 'holas', it is an expression of regret. "At first an expression of weariness rather than woe."

    Etymonline: https://www.etymonline.com/word/alas


    Ngram usage of the term in English.

    Alas: <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=alas&year_start=1800&year_end
    =2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false>

    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.

    I'm doing what I can, in this forum,
    but I seem to be the only one doing so.

    Alas,

    Jan

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Mon Oct 6 17:37:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    In article
    <1rjs9lm.5z6c3e1s2z2xbN%
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>,
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl
    says...
    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.

    I'm doing what I can, in this forum,
    but I seem to be the only one doing so.

    I still use "alas" in real
    life, but I do get funny
    looks.


    Melissa


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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Mon Oct 6 17:24:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    The True Melissa scribbled something on Monday the 10/6/2025:
    In article
    <1rjs9lm.5z6c3e1s2z2xbN%
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>,
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl
    says...
    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.

    I'm doing what I can, in this forum,
    but I seem to be the only one doing so.

    I still use "alas" in real
    life, but I do get funny
    looks.


    Melissa

    How are we doing on "alack"?

    /dps
    --
    Hurray or Huzzah?
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Mon Oct 6 20:56:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    In article
    <mn.34147e9ad138bfac.127094
    @snitoo>,
    snidely.too@gmail.com says...

    The True Melissa scribbled something on Monday the 10/6/2025:
    In article
    <1rjs9lm.5z6c3e1s2z2xbN%
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>,
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl
    says...
    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.

    I'm doing what I can, in this forum,
    but I seem to be the only one doing so.

    I still use "alas" in real
    life, but I do get funny
    looks.


    Melissa

    How are we doing on "alack"?

    /dps

    I prefer the full "alas and
    alackaday."


    Melissa

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Tue Oct 7 07:49:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 07/10/2025 02:56, The True Melissa wrote:
    In article
    <mn.34147e9ad138bfac.127094
    @snitoo>,
    snidely.too@gmail.com says...

    The True Melissa scribbled something on Monday the 10/6/2025:
    In article
    <1rjs9lm.5z6c3e1s2z2xbN%
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>,
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl
    says...
    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.

    I'm doing what I can, in this forum,
    but I seem to be the only one doing so.

    I still use "alas" in real
    life, but I do get funny
    looks.


    Melissa

    How are we doing on "alack"?


    I prefer the full "alas and
    alackaday."


    "Alackaday keeps modernity at bay" </smile>
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Tue Oct 7 19:41:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 07/10/2025 01:56, The True Melissa wrote:
    In article
    <mn.34147e9ad138bfac.127094
    @snitoo>,
    snidely.too@gmail.com says...

    The True Melissa scribbled something on Monday the 10/6/2025:
    In article
    <1rjs9lm.5z6c3e1s2z2xbN%
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>,
    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl
    says...
    Looks like there's been a
    minor resurgence in the 21st
    century. Interesting.

    I'm doing what I can, in this forum,
    but I seem to be the only one doing so.

    I still use "alas" in real
    life, but I do get funny
    looks.


    Melissa

    How are we doing on "alack"?

    /dps

    I prefer the full "alas and
    alackaday."

    Whilst I am quite lackadaisical about using the latter.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.usage.english on Wed Oct 8 05:24:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 07:49:50 +0200, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:

    "Alackaday keeps modernity at bay" </smile>

    +1
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
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