• Re: Analgesics

    From Chris Elvidge@chris@internal.net to alt.usage.english on Tue Sep 30 12:07:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 29/09/2025 at 02:08, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 09:32:07 +0100, Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net>
    wrote:


    Ar an t-ocht|| l|i is fiche de m|! M|-an F||mhair, scr|!obh Steve Hayes:
    Aspirin is great. All of the other non-steroidal anti-inflammatories raise the
    risk of heart attack very slightly, and so I tend not to prescribe naproxen or
    aceclofenac in my patients over 70. Whereas aspirin reduces it. They all have
    an element of risk for the kidneys, but for short term use thatrCOs fine.

    Wonder why itrCOs difficult to source in .za? ItrCOs still very easy to get here,
    and no limits on how much one can buy per transaction, despite that it is also
    toxic in overdose.

    There was a brand called Anadin, which you could buy in a plastic
    container with 50 pills. It has aspirin and caffeine.

    It was useful because you could tell if the quatity was getting low by shaking it. I'd take it for headaches or fevers etc.

    Also, I used to have high blood sugar, and took metformin for it, and measured the blood sugar every couple of days. If the blood didn't
    blow easily when I pricked my finger, I'd take an aspirin. The blood
    sugar seems to have settled down to something more normal, so I don't
    measure it so often.

    But the Anadin brand has disappeared. One can still get Dispirin, but
    it comes in horrible packaging with cardboard boxes and aluminium
    foil, so that by the time you manage to get the pill out it has
    crumbled to powder, half of which spills on the kitchen counter or the
    floor.

    So technically aspirin is still available, but in a far less usable
    form.

    ObAUE: Is it acceptable to say "having a heart attack" in AmE?

    Or should one rather say, "Living with a heart attack"?

    If your myocardium is actively infarcting, you should get that looked at rather
    than living with it! Maybe donrCOt drive to the hospital yourself.

    It's just that I've heard people say that it is unacceptable to say
    that you have a disease/syndrome/medical condition, or are suffering
    from a disease, and that one should rather say that one is living with
    it.

    I have HIV/Aids - bad.
    I'm living with HIV/Aids - better.

    Perhaps it's OK to say "I'm living with a dicky ticker."



    Shades of M. Alphonse?
    --
    Chris Elvidge, England
    MY MOM IS NOT DATING JERRY SEINFELD
    Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF06

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  • From Janet@nobody@home.com to alt.usage.english on Tue Sep 30 12:12:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    In article
    <dGednbdfo7PTa0f1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    plutedpup@outlook.com says...
    Trump said "Taking tylenol in pregnancy is associated
    with a very increaded risk of autism so taking tylenol os
    not good."

    What was the context?

    Trump speaking on camera at his Health Press Conference
    in the Rooseveldt Room at the White House, September 22.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/24/health/video/trump-
    goes-beyond-fda-tylenol-warning-digvid

    Janet

    Do you have a credible source? CNN videos are notoriously
    falsified by clipping and editing.

    I gave a CNN link because it's American so would be
    available to view by American posters.

    BBC news is open to Americans to read and see
    that video clip.

    That's good. Is Google as widely accessible?

    The CNN video states this was an autism press
    conference, that's some context. What was the
    substance of the the rest of this conference, and
    was it a response to something.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpcYXfGZwi4

    Janet



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  • From Peter Moylan@peter@pmoylan.org to alt.usage.english on Tue Sep 30 21:25:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 30/09/25 21:12, Janet wrote:
    In article
    <dGednbdfo7PTa0f1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    plutedpup@outlook.com says...
    Trump said "Taking tylenol in pregnancy is associated
    with a very increaded risk of autism so taking tylenol os
    not good."

    What was the context?

    Trump speaking on camera at his Health Press Conference
    in the Rooseveldt Room at the White House, September 22.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/24/health/video/trump-
    goes-beyond-fda-tylenol-warning-digvid

    Janet

    Do you have a credible source? CNN videos are notoriously
    falsified by clipping and editing.

    I gave a CNN link because it's American so would be
    available to view by American posters.

    BBC news is open to Americans to read and see
    that video clip.

    That's good. Is Google as widely accessible?

    The CNN video states this was an autism press
    conference, that's some context. What was the
    substance of the the rest of this conference, and
    was it a response to something.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpcYXfGZwi4

    Janet, you are arguing with an idiot. Not a good idea.

    That statement by Trump was spread all around the world. It's just not plausible that Goofy failed to see it.
    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW
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  • From Rich Ulrich@rich.ulrich@comcast.net to alt.usage.english on Tue Sep 30 12:01:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 22:16:18 -0700, Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 9/26/25 2:18 PM, Rich Ulrich wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 23:18:41 -0700, Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    It would be well within a tabloid like the New York Times to

    Brain fart?

    The New York Post is sometimes compared to a tabloid, for its
    Page 1 -
    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=96308c0a809ab188&udm=2&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZrjP_Cx0LI1Ytb_FGcOviEsFlSFI0ur0eAAE6ZS9wNBrmOCNKrw4qRkr8bMfqndp-dDbs91l5CbWCyYk6N-1agLNKe0CAlE_gTL-CDyVKh6BOOh2tonypaIviIaOR8CI_35XLj7jume0iw8aG3ahmlDNNO1Cl-1bS3gKZ1ffNnWuZLd1GbmXhHG8JHW9KTzWwoIA-PQ&q=new+york+post+covers&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwju
    gN2npfePAxUAE1kFHdKyOvwQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=1333&bih=594&dpr=1.2
    or Google-search < New York Post covers > and click Images.

    No one who reads the NY Times would call it a tabloid, so
    you mis-wrote or you are repeating some Right wing nuts.


    I call the New York Times mendacious tabloid trash,
    as I read the print edition sometimes so I know.

    noun
    noun: tabloid; plural noun: tabloids

    a newspaper having pages half the size of those of a standard
    newspaper, typically popular in style and dominated by headlines,
    photographs, and sensational stories.
    "the tabloid press"
    North American English
    sensational in a lurid or vulgar way.
    modifier noun: tabloid
    "they argued about who made what allegation on what tabloid TV
    show"

    NY Post fairly won "tabloid" for its front page visuals, and for
    occasional headlines like, "Headless Body Found in Topless Bar."
    Reputation? It is a Murdoch paper, reputed to be more honest than
    his Fox News and less admired than his Wall Street Journal. I've
    never read it.

    Also,
    men-+da-+cious
    /men'daSH?s/
    adjective
    adjective: mendacious

    not telling the truth; lying.
    "mendacious propaganda"

    Fox News certainly served us "mendacious propaganda" that
    led to them paying $787 million to avoid the civil trial for
    defamation. The depositions apparently established that Fox
    presented lies in order to attract the pro-Trump audience.
    From occasional sound bites from others, I think they still tilt
    that way.

    Do you have ANY example for the NY Times? - and where your
    "true narrative" is supported by anyone credible? (Not Trump).

    < snip >
    --
    Rich Ulrich

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  • From Madhu@enometh@meer.net to alt.usage.english on Sun Oct 5 08:18:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    * Pluted Pup <IGydnT-E6cyR9Eb1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> :
    Wrote on Mon, 29 Sep 2025 22:22:19 -0700:
    On 9/29/25 9:41 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I don't really care about it either, but I have seen people getting
    their knickers in a knot about it online. Here I was just being sarky
    (AmE=snarky).
    ObAUE: Why do AmE speakers add an n to word;s like "sarky" and
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/snarky
    in British English, pronounced "snorky" https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/sarky
    When I've heard "sarky" on British DVDs I assumed it was slang!,
    as the meaning is obvious in context. Snarky is a little more
    vague, and might have been coined as a sarky response to a British
    person being sarcastic.


    The Snark probably entered popular culture a few years earlier.

    %
    `Just the place for a Snark!' the Bellman cried,
    As he landed his crew with care;
    Supporting each man on the top of the tide
    By a finger entwined in his hair.

    'Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
    That alone should encourage the crew.
    Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
    What I tell you three times is true.'
    %


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_of_the_Snark

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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to alt.usage.english on Wed Oct 15 20:37:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 10/4/25 7:48 PM, Madhu wrote:
    * Pluted Pup <IGydnT-E6cyR9Eb1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> :
    Wrote on Mon, 29 Sep 2025 22:22:19 -0700:
    On 9/29/25 9:41 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I don't really care about it either, but I have seen people getting
    their knickers in a knot about it online. Here I was just being sarky
    (AmE=snarky).
    ObAUE: Why do AmE speakers add an n to word;s like "sarky" and
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/snarky
    in British English, pronounced "snorky"
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/sarky
    When I've heard "sarky" on British DVDs I assumed it was slang!,
    as the meaning is obvious in context. Snarky is a little more
    vague, and might have been coined as a sarky response to a British
    person being sarcastic.


    The Snark probably entered popular culture a few years earlier.

    %
    `Just the place for a Snark!' the Bellman cried,
    As he landed his crew with care;
    Supporting each man on the top of the tide
    By a finger entwined in his hair.

    'Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
    That alone should encourage the crew.
    Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
    What I tell you three times is true.'
    %


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_of_the_Snark


    Jack London later wrote The Cruise of the Snark.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cruise_of_the_Snark

    Maybe he was being s(n)arky.


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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to alt.usage.english on Wed Oct 15 20:53:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 9/30/25 9:01 AM, Rich Ulrich wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 22:16:18 -0700, Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 9/26/25 2:18 PM, Rich Ulrich wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 23:18:41 -0700, Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    It would be well within a tabloid like the New York Times to

    Brain fart?

    The New York Post is sometimes compared to a tabloid, for its
    Page 1 -

    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=96308c0a809ab188&udm=2&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZrjP_Cx0LI1Ytb_FGcOviEsFlSFI0ur0eAAE6ZS9wNBrmOCNKrw4qRkr8bMfqndp-dDbs91l5CbWCyYk6N-1agLNKe0CAlE_gTL-CDyVKh6BOOh2tonypaIviIaOR8CI_35XLj7jume0iw8aG3ahmlDNNO1Cl-1bS3gKZ1ffNnWuZLd1GbmXhHG8JHW9KTzWwoIA-PQ&q=new+york+post+covers&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwju
    gN2npfePAxUAE1kFHdKyOvwQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=1333&bih=594&dpr=1.2
    or Google-search < New York Post covers > and click Images.

    No one who reads the NY Times would call it a tabloid, so
    you mis-wrote or you are repeating some Right wing nuts.


    I call the New York Times mendacious tabloid trash,
    as I read the print edition sometimes so I know.

    noun
    noun: tabloid; plural noun: tabloids

    a newspaper having pages half the size of those of a standard
    newspaper, typically popular in style and dominated by headlines,
    photographs, and sensational stories.
    "the tabloid press"
    North American English
    sensational in a lurid or vulgar way.
    modifier noun: tabloid
    "they argued about who made what allegation on what tabloid TV
    show"

    NY Post fairly won "tabloid" for its front page visuals, and for
    occasional headlines like, "Headless Body Found in Topless Bar."
    Reputation? It is a Murdoch paper, reputed to be more honest than
    his Fox News and less admired than his Wall Street Journal. I've
    never read it.

    Also,
    men-+da-+cious
    /men'daSH?s/
    adjective
    adjective: mendacious

    not telling the truth; lying.
    "mendacious propaganda"

    Fox News certainly served us "mendacious propaganda" that
    led to them paying $787 million to avoid the civil trial for
    defamation. The depositions apparently established that Fox
    presented lies in order to attract the pro-Trump audience.
    From occasional sound bites from others, I think they still tilt
    that way.

    Do you have ANY example for the NY Times? - and where your
    "true narrative" is supported by anyone credible? (Not Trump).

    What narrative? In no way did I even imply the extremely
    anti-intellectual argument that because the New York Times lies,
    therefore, Fox always tell the truth.

    Again, Fox (Rupert Murdoch) and CNN (Larry Fink) are not diametric
    opposites, they are more alike than different. There is no reason
    that a mere two people, however powerful these press barons are,
    should dictate what is acceptable politics.















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