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On 11/08/2025 06:41, Rich Ulrich wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 07:39:52 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
<rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
Den 10.08.2025 kl. 07.25 skrev Hibou:
I think free will is an illusion. Our choices are determined by the
conditions existing in our brains - what we see, how we feel, how our >>>> history has fashioned our neural networks.
Oversimplification.
Once one has seen what a mentalist[1] can make people do, one abandons
any notion of a free will.
Mentalists (as you call them) are very careful in the selection of their >candidates when they do their 'demonstrations'>
"... abandon[ing] any notion of a free will" is taking it too far.Agree
<snip>
My experience with a 'mentalist' was a fruitful evening class,
8 or 10 lessons, conducted by a psychologist who was a good friend
of my boss on the first research project I worked on.
Beyond leaving me with thoughts of the incidental metaphysics
(free will, etc.), the class taught me self-relaxationn exercises that
I'm glad to have learned. I'm not surprised that these are not
well-known to the general public, but learned 40 years later that
my co-worker/friends who were psychiatric nurses were not well-
informed about them.
What I'm more interested in is if you got any insights into the
selection process of 'easy' candidates. Derren Brown - a very impressive
UK illusionist - has a selection process when selecting subjects for his >experiments. Just by looking at their faces/eyes of a person, he
decides to reject or accept a subject on some unknown basis (at least
unknown to me).
Beyond hypnotism - mentalist acts may conduct observation
of subjects in the foyer or on the street, before they are
allowed to enter the hall. The doors may be kept closed,
intentionally, so the crowd gathers, and confederates can
prowl and listen for juicy bits of conversation or 'bump' into
people to check out lumpy pockets.
A mentalist percieves
Den 26.08.2025 kl. 00.53 skrev Rich Ulrich:
Beyond hypnotism - mentalist acts may conduct observation
of subjects in the foyer or on the street, before they are
allowed to enter the hall. The doors may be kept closed,
intentionally, so the crowd gathers, and confederates can
prowl and listen for juicy bits of conversation or 'bump' into
people to check out lumpy pockets.
That is plain cheating as performed by many preachers. That's not
mentalist work.
A mentalist percieves many micro reactions that the rest of us do not
catch.