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Hello alt.usage.english --
I am writing a report on an injury sustained by a man while working in a factory that transforms wool to yarn. He described that before the injury happened he reported he had been inspecting the rCLcarding machine,rCY which prepares wool for spinning by combing out impurities and parting and straightening the fibres with a card. He described that he had been inspecting
to make sure the material in the machine was equally balanced between two rollers before it went into the rest of the rCLgarning machine.rCY
When he said this I was happy enough that he said rCLgarning machinerCY and I knew
the german for rCLyarnrCY is rCLGarnrCY so I expected that when I looked this up I
would come across some relevant jargon likely borrowed from the Hanseatic League or from Scandinavia a couple of centuries ago. However, when I search on
Google and on Yandex (for the sake of less AI time-wasting), nothing comes up.
When I check my OED2 at home tonight, nothing comes up. I will likely call him
and clarify, but does this mean anything to anyone?
When he said this I was happy enough that he said rCLgarning machinerCY and I knew
the german for rCLyarnrCY is rCLGarnrCY so I expected that when I looked this up I
would come across some relevant jargon likely borrowed from the Hanseatic League or from Scandinavia a couple of centuries ago. However, when I search on
Google and on Yandex (for the sake of less AI time-wasting), nothing comes up.
When I check my OED2 at home tonight, nothing comes up. I will likely call him
and clarify, but does this mean anything to anyone?
When he said this I was happy enough that he said rCLgarning machinerCY
and I knew the german for rCLyarnrCY is rCLGarnrCY so I expected that when I looked this up I would come across some relevant jargon likely
borrowed from the Hanseatic League or from Scandinavia a couple of
centuries ago. However, when I search on Google and on Yandex (for
the sake of less AI time-wasting), nothing comes up. When I check my
OED2 at home tonight, nothing comes up. I will likely call him and
clarify, but does this mean anything to anyone?
Hello alt.usage.english --
before it went into the rest of the rCLgarning machine.rCY[more heavy handed elision ...]
Friday, Aidan Kehoe murmurred ...
Hello alt.usage.english --[drastic elision ... ]
before it went into the rest of the rCLgarning machine.rCY[more heavy handed elision ...]
The font and font size of my newsreader are such that I see the topic as "gaming", but evidently this post isn't about playing the system.
I know fractionally more about hand spinning than machine spinning [1], but I
had to consult the oracles to refresh the connection with "distaff". <URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:William-adolphe_bouguereau_the_spinner.jpg>
The oracles mention that "The Scottish drop spindle is called fairsaid, farsadh, or dealgan.[5]" They also describe the first few generations of machine, and all of the ones developed by English-speakers use "spinning" in the name: spinning jenny, spinning frame, and spinning mule.
Said oracles show "garn" primarly as a surname, including astronaut Jake Garn, and the Garn scale of symptoms of space adapation syndrome.
"Garner" is a familiar term I associate with gathering (usually used for information collection from diffuse sources, like gossip). Merriam-Webster lists:
-- gather into storage
-- deposit into storage as in a granary
-- to acquire by effort
-- accumulate, collect
and traces it back to Latin via grainaries.
/dps
M-W has "garn" as English dialectical for yarn, from Old Norse, and as >verbal interjection of disbelief from "go on".
Thus spake Snidely:
Friday, Aidan Kehoe murmurred ...
Hello alt.usage.english --[drastic elision ... ]
before it went into the rest of the rCLgarning machine.rCY[more heavy handed elision ...]
The font and font size of my newsreader are such that I see the topic
as "gaming", but evidently this post isn't about playing the system.
I know fractionally more about hand spinning than machine spinning
[1], but I had to consult the oracles to refresh the connection with
"distaff".
<URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:William-
adolphe_bouguereau_the_spinner.jpg>
The oracles mention that "The Scottish drop spindle is called
fairsaid, farsadh, or dealgan.[5]"-a They also describe the first few
generations of machine, and all of the ones developed by English-
speakers use "spinning" in the name:-a spinning jenny, spinning frame,
and spinning mule.
Said oracles show "garn" primarly as a surname, including astronaut
Jake Garn, and the Garn scale of symptoms of space adapation syndrome.
"Garner" is a familiar term I associate with gathering (usually used
for information collection from diffuse sources, like gossip).
Merriam-Webster lists:
-a-- gather into storage
-a-- deposit into storage as in a granary
-a-- to acquire by effort
-a-- accumulate, collect
and traces it back to Latin via grainaries.
/dps
M-W has "garn" as English dialectical for yarn, from Old Norse, and as verbal interjection of disbelief from "go on".
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:12:40 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:
M-W has "garn" as English dialectical for yarn, from Old Norse, and
as verbal interjection of disbelief from "go on".
I think I've seen that spelled with a better hint to meaning as
"gawrn" or with some other extension to the vowel.
In this corner of the world it's a place - but that's just the shortened form of 'Garndiffaith' and it always preceeded by the definite article.
"I'm just going up the Garn."
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 00:22:59 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
[]
In this corner of the world it's a place - but that's just the shortened
form of 'Garndiffaith' and it always preceeded by the definite article.
"I'm just going up the Garn."
When is the Crown open these days?
Ok, ok, that's Varteg.
I am writing a report on an injury sustained by a man while working in a factory that transforms wool to yarn. He described that before the injury happened he reported he had been inspecting the rCLcarding machine,rCY which prepares wool for spinning by combing out impurities and parting and straightening the fibres with a card. He described that he had been inspecting to make sure the material in the machine was equally balanced between two rollers before it went into the rest of the rCLgarning machine.rCY
When he said this I was happy enough that he said rCLgarning machinerCY and I
knew the german for rCLyarnrCY is rCLGarnrCY so I expected that when I looked this
up I would come across some relevant jargon likely borrowed from the Hanseatic League or from Scandinavia a couple of centuries ago. However, when I search on Google and on Yandex (for the sake of less AI time-wasting), nothing comes up. When I check my OED2 at home tonight, nothing comes up. I will likely call him and clarify, but does this mean anything to anyone?
On 26/08/2025 20:47, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 00:22:59 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
[]
In this corner of the world it's a place - but that's just the shortened >> form of 'Garndiffaith' and it always preceeded by the definite article.
"I'm just going up the Garn."
When is the Crown open these days?
Ok, ok, that's Varteg.
Not sure.
I've never gone in there & when I happen to go past, it's hard to tell
if it's open.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 01:40:10 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 26/08/2025 20:47, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 00:22:59 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
[]
In this corner of the world it's a place - but that's just the shortened >>>> form of 'Garndiffaith' and it always preceeded by the definite article. >>>>
"I'm just going up the Garn."
When is the Crown open these days?
Ok, ok, that's Varteg.
Not sure.
I've never gone in there & when I happen to go past, it's hard to tell
if it's open.
It was a trick question. He puts out a red sign, on the odd occasion that
it is open. I've found it an interesting place, but I also hadn't found
it open 'til recently (last year). Seems the current landlord has been
there 8 years! He closed the place last autumn, but secretly reopened
about Easter this year - I didn't find out until June!
On 27/08/2025 22:00, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 01:40:10 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 26/08/2025 20:47, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 00:22:59 +0100
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
[]
In this corner of the world it's a place - but that's just the shortened >>>> form of 'Garndiffaith' and it always preceeded by the definite article. >>>>
"I'm just going up the Garn."
When is the Crown open these days?
Ok, ok, that's Varteg.
Not sure.
I've never gone in there & when I happen to go past, it's hard to tell
if it's open.
It was a trick question. He puts out a red sign, on the odd occasion that it is open. I've found it an interesting place, but I also hadn't found
it open 'til recently (last year). Seems the current landlord has been there 8 years! He closed the place last autumn, but secretly reopened
about Easter this year - I didn't find out until June!
Secretly (re)opening a public house doesn't seem like a good strategy to
me - but what do I know about running a pub?
(Other than not wanting to do it.)
