• Re: OT: Brag

    From Tony Cooper@tonycooper214@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Fri Jul 4 12:54:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't
    that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >>>>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I
    normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to
    be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I
    was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person
    in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes. However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

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  • From Rich Ulrich@rich.ulrich@comcast.net to alt.usage.english on Fri Jul 4 14:05:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:07:16 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
    Lodder) wrote:

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 00:27:47 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
    <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote:

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >> >>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    Just for comparison:
    The Danish gasoline costs $8.18 per (us)gallon.

    Gasoline, in the US, is subject to state and county taxes (which is
    built into the pump price, so the price of a gallon of gas will vary
    state-to-state and even county-to-county in each state.

    I can often drive 10 miles from one county to another and see a 10 to
    20 cent difference in the per gallon price. It also varies day-by-day
    in this area. I filled up last week at a WaWa station at $3.19 per
    gallon, and today's price at the same station is $3.15, but it was
    $3.09 earlier in the week.

    The prices also vary in Denmark. Companies charge different prices, but
    they don't differ as much as 20 cent. They also vary by day, but I don't
    follow those prices closely because I drive an EV.

    All prices are for "regular" gas. Also sold at the WaWa pump:
    Midgrade: $3.55, Premium: $3.67, and Diesel: $3.65.

    Most people in Denmark use what we call 95 octane. Does that correspond
    to Midgrade?


    Web says Regular 87 Midgrade 89-90 Premium 91-94

    I have always used "regular", and never have experienced "engine ping"
    from not high enough octane. In the owner's manual of my current and
    recent vehicles "regular" is specified.

    Yes, typical for third world countries.
    Bertil's '95' is 'Euro 95' and not just for Denmark.
    It is an Europe-wide grade, the lowest grade there is.
    All standard cars sold in Europe use it.

    I figured that did not translate to US-95 Octane. I noticed a long
    time ago that the gas pumps I use include a wordy notice that
    their octane is computed as the average of two 'octanes' with
    different meanings.

    The Wikipedia article on Octane Rating explains that the "average"
    score is often 6 points off from its two components. It has a table
    with several European gasolines that have '95' in their name or
    description. Among these, "E15" is equated to the US standard of
    88 (Regular), "E10" to 91 (Medium).

    It may contain up to 10% ethanol.
    In practice 'Euro 95' and 'E10' are interchangeable labels.

    There is also a 'super' at rating 98, with less than 5% ethanol,
    for idiots who want to kill themselves in Lamborginis
    and similar show-off things.

    In the news this week, some supposedly famous football player,
    (no doubt overpaid) did just that,

    --
    Rich Ulrich
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 15:43:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    Observed today, a Tesla coupe with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive
    vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Do the chicks that he is trying to get into it know that?
    Or do they care, when they see a sucker?

    Jan
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 15:43:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >>>>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I >>>> normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I
    was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person
    in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes. However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    Lower octane means more of them.
    You have wastful cars, that burn underpriced petrol
    at low efficiency.
    Europeans have been squeezing all the energy they can get
    out of a drop of petrol.

    Lack of innovation caused the American motor industry to collapse.
    In the end they made cars that not even Americans wanted to buy,

    Jan

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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 10:27:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <di1g6k9cjtdt50pifgnsqt81r28tt0etqf@4ax.com>
    as of 7/4/2025 9:54:37 AM
    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >>>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >>>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >>>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >>>>>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I >>>>> normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >>>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I
    was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person
    in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes.

    Wasn't my point, but pesumably efficiency of combustion comes into
    play.

    However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    There isn't. But it's nice to be behind an /electric/ vehicle when in
    a line.

    /dps
    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
    they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
    Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com
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  • From Tony Cooper@tonycooper214@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 13:30:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 15:43:34 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
    Lodder) wrote:

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >> >>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >> >>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >> >>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this
    area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I
    normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >> >>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I
    was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person
    in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes. However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    Lower octane means more of them.
    You have wastful cars, that burn underpriced petrol
    at low efficiency.
    Europeans have been squeezing all the energy they can get
    out of a drop of petrol.

    The reading on my vehicle shows my gallons-per-mile is 27.2 for the
    current fill-up. That all city, start-and-stop, driving. The gpm
    figure is better when it includes highway driving.


    Lack of innovation caused the American motor industry to collapse.
    In the end they made cars that not even Americans wanted to buy,


    The three top-selling brands of automobiles in the US, in order, are
    Toyota, Ford, and Chevrolet. Toyota barely leads Ford in sales.

    Following those three are Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Hyundai. None are
    European brands.

    I would not say that lower cost-of-labor is a "innovation", and that's
    the aspect that gave imported automobiles their US foot-hold.






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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 10:36:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Snidely is guilty of <mn.1bbe7e977a6c68dd.127094@snitoo> as of 7/3/2025 3:58:26 PM
    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla models have featured four doors.

    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive
    vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.


    And of course, which model of Tesla relates to how impressive the
    purchase is. Models 3 and Y are in a price range that many
    other"comfortable" cars are, and even for the S and the X, you're not
    really in the range of the Mercedes EOS or Porsche Taycan unless you
    have the Plaid package, and a Lucid Air is probably slightly more.


    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this
    area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    I didn't realize how difficult this sentence would be to decode.

    /dps

    ^^^ again
    --
    As a colleague once told me about an incoming manager,
    "He does very well in a suck-up, kick-down culture."
    Bill in Vancouver
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  • From Tony Cooper@tonycooper214@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 15:14:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 15:43:34 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
    Lodder) wrote:

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >> >>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >> >>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >> >>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this
    area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I
    normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >> >>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I
    was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person
    in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes. However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    Lower octane means more of them.
    You have wastful cars, that burn underpriced petrol
    at low efficiency.
    Europeans have been squeezing all the energy they can get
    out of a drop of petrol.

    Lack of innovation caused the American motor industry to collapse.
    In the end they made cars that not even Americans wanted to buy,

    What are these "innovations" that foreign cars offered that US-made
    cars did not?

    Sometimes I wonder if you just throw out this crap to bait the bear or
    if you simply make up shit that suits your perceptions.

    I'm old enough to have lived through the years when 99+% of the cars
    on US roads were American-made to today's market where foreign brands
    are as common (or have the greatest market share in aggregate) as
    Americn brands, but I can't think of any "innovation" that led to
    this.

    In high school and college I owned a series of American cars and one
    European car (an1948 Austin A40) that were all purchased used. I
    purchased my first new car - a 1964 Chevrolet Impala - for our
    honeymoon trip to Hilton Head and Florida.

    When Datsun (now Nissan) and Toyota opened dealerships in the US I
    don't remember them as having any "innovations". They sold for less
    and offered better gas milage, but they were smaller and less
    comfortable. Less weight and less need for a V8 engine.

    I purchased my first new foreign car - a 1979 Volvo 245DL - because of
    the gas shortages at the time, and I wanted a stick-shift station
    wagon-type vehicle. Good car, but no "innovations" that I can think
    of. I traded it in for a Cadillac later because I was doing a lot of
    business entertaining and needed a larger car.

    Again...what are these "innovations" you claim caused the "demise" if
    the US automakers?




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  • From Tony Cooper@tonycooper214@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 15:17:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 10:27:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <di1g6k9cjtdt50pifgnsqt81r28tt0etqf@4ax.com>
    as of 7/4/2025 9:54:37 AM
    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >>>>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >>>>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >>>>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >>>>>>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I >>>>>> normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >>>>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I >>>>> was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person
    in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes.

    Wasn't my point, but pesumably efficiency of combustion comes into
    play.

    However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    There isn't. But it's nice to be behind an /electric/ vehicle when in
    a line.

    Good that something gives you comfort, but I have never noticed a
    difference.

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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@rundtosset@lundhansen.dk to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 22:32:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Tony Cooper wrote:

    However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    There isn't. But it's nice to be behind an /electric/ vehicle when in
    a line.

    Good that something gives you comfort, but I have never noticed a
    difference.

    I think that it's a question of the air that your air condition sucks
    in.
    --
    Bertel
    Kolt, Denmark
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  • From Tony Cooper@tonycooper214@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 17:19:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 22:32:27 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote:

    However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car >>>> in a line at a drive-through.

    There isn't. But it's nice to be behind an /electric/ vehicle when in
    a line.

    Good that something gives you comfort, but I have never noticed a
    difference.

    I think that it's a question of the air that your air condition sucks
    in.

    Yes...I know that, but I've never noticed a difference between behind
    an electric vehicle or a gasoline vehicle. Bus, yes. An old vehicle
    that needs a ring job (or whatever it is that causes black exhaust),
    yes, but ordinary traffic, no.

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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sat Jul 5 14:36:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Just this Saturday, Tony Cooper explained that ...
    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 10:27:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <di1g6k9cjtdt50pifgnsqt81r28tt0etqf@4ax.com>
    as of 7/4/2025 9:54:37 AM
    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com> >>>> as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >>>>>>>> models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >>>>>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >>>>>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco >>>>>>>>> this area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations. >>>>>>>>
    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I >>>>>>> normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >>>>>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I >>>>>> was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person >>>>> in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes.

    Wasn't my point, but pesumably efficiency of combustion comes into
    play.

    However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    There isn't. But it's nice to be behind an /electric/ vehicle when in
    a line.

    Good that something gives you comfort, but I have never noticed a
    difference.

    Your lungs do.

    /dps
    --
    As a colleague once told me about an incoming manager,
    "He does very well in a suck-up, kick-down culture."
    Bill in Vancouver
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Sun Jul 6 09:44:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 15:43:34 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
    Lodder) wrote:

    Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
    as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote:

    Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
    Observed today, a Tesla coupe

    If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla
    models have featured four doors.

    If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >> >>>> that cybertruck thing.


    with a personalized license plate saying
    "I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive
    vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.

    Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.

    Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the
    Costco this area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas
    stations.

    I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.

    We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I >> >>>> normally go.

    Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >> >>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I >> >>> was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.


    I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person >> >> in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?

    Nothing. You took a wrong turn.

    It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.

    What comes out of the tail pipe?

    I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
    exhaust fumes. However, I can't see how there's any difference
    between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
    in a line at a drive-through.

    Lower octane means more of them.
    You have wastful cars, that burn underpriced petrol
    at low efficiency.
    Europeans have been squeezing all the energy they can get
    out of a drop of petrol.

    The reading on my vehicle shows my gallons-per-mile is 27.2 for the
    current fill-up. That all city, start-and-stop, driving. The gpm
    figure is better when it includes highway driving.


    Lack of innovation caused the American motor industry to collapse.
    In the end they made cars that not even Americans wanted to buy,


    The three top-selling brands of automobiles in the US, in order, are
    Toyota, Ford, and Chevrolet. Toyota barely leads Ford in sales.

    Ford is half-European. (both British and German)
    The (in)famous Ford Mondeo was exclusively built in Belgium.
    Most of the Chevrolet brand is rebranded Daewoo.

    And in case you have forgotten: the collapse of Detroit
    was more than fifteen years ago.
    Of course things have happened after that.
    (The Europeans bought Chrysler, for example)

    Following those three are Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Hyundai. None are European brands.

    Not my claim to begin with.

    I would not say that lower cost-of-labor is a "innovation", and that's
    the aspect that gave imported automobiles their US foot-hold.

    By definition, mass production means that the materials cost is more
    important than labour cost,

    Jan



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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@rundtosset@lundhansen.dk to alt.usage.english on Sun Jul 6 10:01:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    Tony Cooper wrote:

    There isn't. But it's nice to be behind an /electric/ vehicle when in >>>>a line.

    Good that something gives you comfort, but I have never noticed a
    difference.

    I think that it's a question of the air that your air condition sucks
    in.

    Yes...I know that, but I've never noticed a difference between behind
    an electric vehicle or a gasoline vehicle. Bus, yes. An old vehicle
    that needs a ring job (or whatever it is that causes black exhaust),
    yes, but ordinary traffic, no.

    It's not what you notice. It's what you breathe.
    --
    Bertel
    Kolt, Denmark
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