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On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 13:07:55 +0200, occam wrote:
Here's the sentiment as expressed here in Europe.
<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/Elon-disclaimer.jpg?session_id=805d0644326f4f48>
Dropbox wants my e-mail to open this, so no thanks. Maybe use something
like <https://postimages.org/> ?
[...] And quite right, too. Petrol should be expensive, to encourage people not to burn any more of it than they have to. Likewise derv, paraffin, etc..
https://i.postimg.cc/9FH8j6tr/Elon-disclaimer.jpg
Howzat?
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 00:27:47 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote:
Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >>>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.
Just for comparison:
The Danish gasoline costs $8.18 per (us)gallon.
Gasoline, in the US, is subject to state and county taxes (which is
built into the pump price, so the price of a gallon of gas will vary
state-to-state and even county-to-county in each state.
I can often drive 10 miles from one county to another and see a 10 to
20 cent difference in the per gallon price. It also varies day-by-day
in this area. I filled up last week at a WaWa station at $3.19 per
gallon, and today's price at the same station is $3.15, but it was
$3.09 earlier in the week.
The prices also vary in Denmark. Companies charge different prices, but
they don't differ as much as 20 cent. They also vary by day, but I don't
follow those prices closely because I drive an EV.
All prices are for "regular" gas. Also sold at the WaWa pump:
Midgrade: $3.55, Premium: $3.67, and Diesel: $3.65.
Most people in Denmark use what we call 95 octane. Does that correspond
to Midgrade?
Web says Regular 87 Midgrade 89-90 Premium 91-94
I have always used "regular", and never have experienced "engine ping"
from not high enough octane. In the owner's manual of my current and
recent vehicles "regular" is specified.
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla models have featured four doors.
with a personalized license plate saying
"I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive
vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.
Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.--
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla
models have featured four doors.
If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't
that cybertruck thing.
A Pondian difference I guess.
In Europe a coupé is strictly a two door model.
In the USA it is only 'ususually' a two doors.
Style also differs: in Europe it is a two seater,
with a sleek appearance, with perhaps two small seats
crammed into the rear. It is definitely not a family car.
In the USA the usual bloat may apply.
Asl for pronunciation: Britain usually has the Englified French pronunciation, two syllables, somewhat like 'koo pay'.
I have been told Americans pronounce it as if the accent doesn't exist,
so as one syllable like 'koop'.
From French 'couper', to cut.
The original 'Coupé' was a two seater, and horse drawn,
On 04 Jul 2025, J. J. Lodder wrote
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely
<snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster,
Tesla models have featured four doors.
If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it
wasn't that cybertruck thing.
A Pondian difference I guess.
In Europe a coupé is strictly a two door model.
In the USA it is only 'ususually' a two doors.
Style also differs: in Europe it is a two seater,
with a sleek appearance, with perhaps two small seats
crammed into the rear. It is definitely not a family car.
In the USA the usual bloat may apply.
Asl for pronunciation: Britain usually has the Englified French
pronunciation, two syllables, somewhat like 'koo pay'.
I have been told Americans pronounce it as if the accent doesn't
exist, so as one syllable like 'koop'.
Rather endearingly, "Little Deuce Coupe" is sung with two syllables
for "Deuce" and one for "Coupe".
On 2025-07-04 07:01, HVS wrote:
On 04 Jul 2025, J. J. Lodder wrote
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely
<snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster,
Tesla models have featured four doors.
If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it
wasn't that cybertruck thing.
A Pondian difference I guess.
In Europe a coupΘ is strictly a two door model.
In the USA it is only 'ususually' a two doors.
Style also differs: in Europe it is a two seater,
with a sleek appearance, with perhaps two small seats
crammed into the rear. It is definitely not a family car.
In the USA the usual bloat may apply.
Asl for pronunciation: Britain usually has the Englified French
pronunciation, two syllables, somewhat like 'koo pay'.
I have been told Americans pronounce it as if the accent doesn't
exist, so as one syllable like 'koop'.
Rather endearingly, "Little Deuce Coupe" is sung with two syllables
for "Deuce" and one for "Coupe".
Deuce with two syllables? Possible in a cover, but definitely not in
/The Beach Boys/ original.
Check for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH2MXxoQTLY
Ar an ceathrú lá de mí Iúil, scríobh Hibou:
[...] And quite right, too. Petrol should be expensive, to encourage people >> not to burn any more of it than they have to. Likewise derv, paraffin, etc..
I have seen “Derv” advertised in Northern Ireland at an establishment that was
obviously selling various sorts of fuel, but I hadn’t looked up exactly what it
is until just now. Wikipedia tells me that it is “diesel-engined road vehicle”
fuel, in contrast e.g. to marked diesel sold for agricultural use (usually to fuel tractors)
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 15:09:53 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2025-07-04 07:01, HVS wrote:
On 04 Jul 2025, J. J. Lodder wrote
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely
<snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster,
Tesla models have featured four doors.
If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it
wasn't that cybertruck thing.
A Pondian difference I guess.
In Europe a coupΘ is strictly a two door model.
In the USA it is only 'ususually' a two doors.
Style also differs: in Europe it is a two seater,
with a sleek appearance, with perhaps two small seats
crammed into the rear. It is definitely not a family car.
In the USA the usual bloat may apply.
Asl for pronunciation: Britain usually has the Englified French
pronunciation, two syllables, somewhat like 'koo pay'.
I have been told Americans pronounce it as if the accent doesn't
exist, so as one syllable like 'koop'.
Rather endearingly, "Little Deuce Coupe" is sung with two syllables
for "Deuce" and one for "Coupe".
Deuce with two syllables? Possible in a cover, but definitely not in
/The Beach Boys/ original.
Check for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH2MXxoQTLY
I've never heard the word pronounced with two syllables. The 2 in
playing cards, is called a "deuce", and it's frequently said.
On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 17:54:22 -0400
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 15:09:53 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2025-07-04 07:01, HVS wrote:
On 04 Jul 2025, J. J. Lodder wrote
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely
<snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster,
Tesla models have featured four doors.
If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it
wasn't that cybertruck thing.
A Pondian difference I guess.
In Europe a coupΘ is strictly a two door model.
In the USA it is only 'ususually' a two doors.
Style also differs: in Europe it is a two seater,
with a sleek appearance, with perhaps two small seats
crammed into the rear. It is definitely not a family car.
In the USA the usual bloat may apply.
Asl for pronunciation: Britain usually has the Englified French
pronunciation, two syllables, somewhat like 'koo pay'.
I have been told Americans pronounce it as if the accent doesn't
exist, so as one syllable like 'koop'.
Rather endearingly, "Little Deuce Coupe" is sung with two syllables
for "Deuce" and one for "Coupe".
Deuce with two syllables? Possible in a cover, but definitely not in
/The Beach Boys/ original.
Check for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH2MXxoQTLY
I've never heard the word pronounced with two syllables. The 2 in
playing cards, is called a "deuce", and it's frequently said.
I've only ever heard it when my SO watches Wimbledon.
On 04/07/2025 00:44, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 00:27:47 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote:
Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this >>>>> area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.
Just for comparison:
The Danish gasoline costs $8.18 per (us)gallon.
Gasoline, in the US, is subject to state and county taxes (which is
built into the pump price, so the price of a gallon of gas will vary
state-to-state and even county-to-county in each state.
I can often drive 10 miles from one county to another and see a 10 to
20 cent difference in the per gallon price. It also varies day-by-day >>> in this area. I filled up last week at a WaWa station at $3.19 per
gallon, and today's price at the same station is $3.15, but it was
$3.09 earlier in the week.
The prices also vary in Denmark. Companies charge different prices, but
they don't differ as much as 20 cent. They also vary by day, but I don't >> follow those prices closely because I drive an EV.
All prices are for "regular" gas. Also sold at the WaWa pump:
Midgrade: $3.55, Premium: $3.67, and Diesel: $3.65.
Most people in Denmark use what we call 95 octane. Does that correspond
to Midgrade?
Web says Regular 87 Midgrade 89-90 Premium 91-94
I have always used "regular", and never have experienced "engine ping"
from not high enough octane. In the owner's manual of my current and recent vehicles "regular" is specified.
I suspect a modern engine management system would detect the onset of
"engine ping" (or "knock") and adjust the timing, or fuel/air ratio, to prevent it.
Le 03/07/2025 α 22:35, Bertel Lund Hansen a Θcrit :
Tony Cooper wrote:
Observed today, a Tesla coupe with a personalized license plate saying
"I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive
vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.
Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this
area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.
Just for comparison:
The Danish gasoline costs $8.18 per (us)gallon.
And quite right, too. Petrol should be expensive, to encourage people
not to burn any more of it than they have to. Likewise derv, paraffin, etc..
There is also a 'super' at rating 98, with less than 5% ethanol,
for idiots who want to kill themselves in Lamborginis
and similar show-off things.
In the news this week, some supposedly famous football player,
(no doubt overpaid) did just that,
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 15:43:34 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder) wrote:
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 08:20:27 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tony Cooper is guilty of <09de6kh3loadddknl93qkhit6km5pnqiv1@4ax.com>
as of 7/3/2025 7:00:40 PM
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:40:17 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tony Cooper scribbled something on Thursday the 7/3/2025:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:58:26 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
Tony Cooper wrote on 7/3/2025 :
Observed today, a Tesla coupe
If it's a coupe, it's a rare vehicle. Other than the Roadster, Tesla >>>>>>>> models have featured four doors.
If so, I've misused "coupe". I meant only to specifiy that it wasn't >>>>>>> that cybertruck thing.
with a personalized license plate saying
"I Madeit". Poor guy. He thinks "making it" is buying an expensive >>>>>>>>> vehicle that has just lost most of it's resale value.
Perhaps the plate is older than the Trump re-press.
Gasoline, by the way, is currently $2.68 per gallon at the Costco this
area, and about $3.00 per gallon at regular gas stations.
I know which I would rather be behind at a drive-thru.
We have a Costco membership, but the store is not in an area where I >>>>>>> normally go.
Costco does have "drive-thru" gasoline pumps, and the lines do tend to >>>>>> be long, and the engines of the waiting are typically running, but I >>>>>> was referring to drive-thrus at fast food emporiums.
I don't follow. What has the price of gas have to do with the person >>>>> in front of you at the drive-through at a fast-food joint?
Nothing. You took a wrong turn.
It's no different from being in a line of traffic on a road.
What comes out of the tail pipe?
I don't have any idea if the octane of the gasoline used affects the
exhaust fumes. However, I can't see how there's any difference
between being behind a car in a line of traffic and being behind a car
in a line at a drive-through.
Lower octane means more of them.
You have wastful cars, that burn underpriced petrol
at low efficiency.
Europeans have been squeezing all the energy they can get
out of a drop of petrol.
The reading on my vehicle shows my gallons-per-mile is 27.2 for the
current fill-up. That all city, start-and-stop, driving. The gpm
figure is better when it includes highway driving.
Lack of innovation caused the American motor industry to collapse.
In the end they made cars that not even Americans wanted to buy,
The three top-selling brands of automobiles in the US, in order, are
Toyota, Ford, and Chevrolet. Toyota barely leads Ford in sales.
Following those three are Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Hyundai. None are European brands.
I would not say that lower cost-of-labor is a "innovation", and that's
the aspect that gave imported automobiles their US foot-hold.
Hibou wrote:
Le 03/07/2025 à 22:35, Bertel Lund Hansen a écrit :
Just for comparison:
The Danish gasoline costs $8.18 per (us)gallon.
And quite right, too. Petrol should be expensive, to encourage people
not to burn any more of it than they have to. Likewise derv, paraffin, etc..
What are you, an un-American commie?
Real red blooded Americans know that their capitalist task
is to waste the planet as rapidly as possible,
