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Spoilers ahead...
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
Do you have a link to the finale? I tried watching late last night but
the channel where I watched Episodes 7 thru 9 seems to have disappeared.
Thanks!
--
Brian
On 9/7/2025 3:50 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
Do you have a link to the finale? I tried watching late last night but
the channel where I watched Episodes 7 thru 9 seems to have disappeared.
Thanks!
--
Brian
Try one of these:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9q524w
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9q51z6
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9q5dda
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production of the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired locally as a two-
hour episode with commercials, as the runtime for the video was 90
minutes. With one small exception which I will note below, I think the cinematography was really good.-a But I will admit it.-a Once I realized what the final four immunity challenge would be, I pretty much knew how
the rest of the episode would go and and I had a pretty good idea who
the winner would be.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be Parv's challenge all
the way.-a Given her body type and balancing skills, I figured she would
win the challenge easily, and she did.-a And as I said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins F4 immunity, she probably wins the season.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with Cirie
and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her promise to
put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be a 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire challenge?-a I was pretty sure
Janine would honor her promise to Luke and force the 2-2 tie, though the show tried hard to make us think she wouldn't.-a I think Janine knew she
had no real chance to win either way, so it made sense to me she would
honor the promise.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did.-a She clearly
had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was oohing and ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself rooting for her here because a Parv-
Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be moderately interesting. What
would Cirie say in her presentation to the jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in her final summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but it would have been interesting.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episode was
for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with the cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge where the
flames they have set up at TC were directly behind Cirie and Luke as
they were working on their own fires.-a I kept seeing the background
flames and thought it was one of their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone should have maybe thought about that during filming and positioned the cameras differently or just extinguished the flames directly behind Luke
and Cirie.-a It was still an exciting and dramatic fire challenge, one of the best I can remember.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to
questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was whether Luke
would get any votes, and he did end up getting Sarah's vote.-a I had
thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he surprised me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both gave enthusiastic votes for Parv with absolutely no bitterness over how she had voted them out.-a Very classy.
I would love to see Kass play again, and wonder if she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor winner's club,
and she becomes the only one of the three to retire as a winner. Both
Sandra and Tony fizzled in their attempts to win a third time, and it is classy and cool that Parv knows how to retire on top.-a Of course Cirie
gets one more shot in Survivor 50 for her first win, and then hopefully
she will retire as well.
My one big regret for the season was that Hayley Leake did not get to play.-a She won George's first season beating him in the final, and she played what may be the best all around performance on any Australian Survivor season.-a It would have been fun to see her in the cast in place of, say Janine, who ultimately was a pretty big non-factor in the game.
I think Hayley is the one player not on the season that could have given Parv a run for the money.
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production of the
finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired locally as a two-
hour episode with commercials, as the runtime for the video was 90
minutes. With one small exception which I will note below, I think the
cinematography was really good.-a But I will admit it.-a Once I realized
what the final four immunity challenge would be, I pretty much knew
how the rest of the episode would go and and I had a pretty good idea
who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown away by how
long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes amazed me. I
thought she would be out in under five minutes.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow
footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be Parv's
challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing skills, I
figured she would win the challenge easily, and she did.-a And as I
said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins F4 immunity, she
probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done this challenge before.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with Cirie
and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her promise to
put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be a 2-2 tie
between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire challenge?-a I was
pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to Luke and force the 2-2
tie, though the show tried hard to make us think she wouldn't.-a I
think Janine knew she had no real chance to win either way, so it made
sense to me she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not going to
win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because she knew Cirie
and Parv had much better stories than her and good convey them to the
jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, and
I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did.-a She
clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was oohing and
ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even
though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself rooting for her
here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be moderately
interesting. What would Cirie say in her presentation to the jury and
how would Parv characterize Cirie in her final summation?-a I was
pretty sure Parv would still win, but it would have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the wind blew
his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. It's good she
was eventually successful even if it happened a few minutes too late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv would
have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episode was
for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with the
cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge where the
flames they have set up at TC were directly behind Cirie and Luke as
they were working on their own fires.-a I kept seeing the background
flames and thought it was one of their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone
should have maybe thought about that during filming and positioned the
cameras differently or just extinguished the flames directly behind
Luke and Cirie.-a It was still an exciting and dramatic fire challenge,
one of the best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially behind Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for me as
it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to
questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did
slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was
whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting Sarah's
vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he surprised me
in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact that
game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both gave enthusiastic votes
for Parv with absolutely no bitterness over how she had voted them
out.-a Very classy. I would love to see Kass play again, and wonder if
she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her question, but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at FTC. It was like she
was trying to sell the jury a product that they knew was faulty.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been tripped up
by some of the questions. I can see future jurors copying Kass's
question as it was simple but brilliant.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor winner's
club, and she becomes the only one of the three to retire as a winner.
Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their attempts to win a third time,
and it is classy and cool that Parv knows how to retire on top.-a Of
course Cirie gets one more shot in Survivor 50 for her first win, and
then hopefully she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see Parv back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as long as there's
money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
My one big regret for the season was that Hayley Leake did not get to
play.-a She won George's first season beating him in the final, and she
played what may be the best all around performance on any Australian
Survivor season.-a It would have been fun to see her in the cast in
place of, say Janine, who ultimately was a pretty big non-factor in
the game. I think Hayley is the one player not on the season that
could have given Parv a run for the money.
I was happy with the cast. It's impossible to know how things will play
out when a cast is put together. For the most part, I was very impressed with the level of gameplay from most of these people. I was expecting
people to just phone it in, but most played pretty hardcore games. Parv obviously came to make a point and she succeeded.
After watching this season, I wonder if S49 is going to be a huge
letdown? Or will the fact that it's been kind of forgotten because of
this and S50 be a good thing for S49 as long as it doesn't completely suck?
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production of
the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired locally as a
two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime for the video was
90 minutes. With one small exception which I will note below, I think
the cinematography was really good.-a But I will admit it.-a Once I
realized what the final four immunity challenge would be, I pretty
much knew how the rest of the episode would go and and I had a pretty
good idea who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the F4
IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown away by
how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes amazed me. I
thought she would be out in under five minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the show
had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed clips of a few
of them).-a There is always a standing and sometimes balancing element,
but having to simultaneously hold up the weights was a good touch.-a The only thing really missing was that they didn't do it right on the
water's edge as they like to do so the waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow
footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be Parv's
challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing skills, I
figured she would win the challenge easily, and she did.-a And as I
said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins F4 immunity, she
probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would
factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done this
challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he may have.
-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical challenges - even before
F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with Cirie
and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her promise to
put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be a 2-2 tie
between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire challenge?-a I was
pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to Luke and force the 2-2
tie, though the show tried hard to make us think she wouldn't.-a I
think Janine knew she had no real chance to win either way, so it
made sense to me she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not going to
win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because she knew Cirie
and Parv had much better stories than her and good convey them to the
jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, and
I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did.-a She
clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was oohing and
ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even
though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself rooting for her
here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be
moderately interesting. What would Cirie say in her presentation to
the jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in her final
summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but it would have
been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the wind
blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. It's good
she was eventually successful even if it happened a few minutes too
late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor in her agreeing
to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv would
have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would have
gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was more aligned
with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably would have gotten
Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may have also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had beaten him in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have gotten.-a A lot might have depended on her speech and what she would have said to try to differentiate herself from Parv.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episode was
for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with the
cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge where the
flames they have set up at TC were directly behind Cirie and Luke as
they were working on their own fires.-a I kept seeing the background
flames and thought it was one of their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone
should have maybe thought about that during filming and positioned
the cameras differently or just extinguished the flames directly
behind Luke and Cirie.-a It was still an exciting and dramatic fire
challenge, one of the best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially behind
Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for me as
it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to
questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did
slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was
whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting Sarah's
vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he surprised
me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact
that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both gave enthusiastic
votes for Parv with absolutely no bitterness over how she had voted
them out.-a Very classy. I would love to see Kass play again, and
wonder if she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place money?
I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian, but I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of days they
are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works similarly to how it
does on Amazing Race, where only the winning team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it include US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they are doing it differently.-a But nothing has been said about that except the top prize
is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her season
(they were voted out one after the other), and once she left the game,
she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left so early in the
process that she might not have really seen all of Parv's moves
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her question, but
I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at FTC. It was like
she was trying to sell the jury a product that they knew was faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd be that
good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She was never getting
anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that Sarah threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the event of different prizes for
second vs. third place.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been tripped up
by some of the questions. I can see future jurors copying Kass's
question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job thinking
on her feet and giving a great answer.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor winner's
club, and she becomes the only one of the three to retire as a
winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their attempts to win a third
time, and it is classy and cool that Parv knows how to retire on
top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more shot in Survivor 50 for her first
win, and then hopefully she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see Parv
back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as long as
there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that point,
so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back for what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in context, that's about how
long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight Show.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to pay her
for it.-a She has really become a professional reality show performer and
I think she will play until she either drops or wins, whichever comes
first.
I think Parv is serious about not wanting to play again, but who knows
what her situation will be in five years?-a She might need the money.
And for the record, I'm not sure Survivor would ever consider paying a
$5 million first place prize, especially with CBS under new ownership
and projected belt-tightening.-a As long as ratings remain good, they
really don't need to do that.
My one big regret for the season was that Hayley Leake did not get to
play.-a She won George's first season beating him in the final, and
she played what may be the best all around performance on any
Australian Survivor season.-a It would have been fun to see her in the
cast in place of, say Janine, who ultimately was a pretty big non-
factor in the game. I think Hayley is the one player not on the
season that could have given Parv a run for the money.
I was happy with the cast. It's impossible to know how things will
play out when a cast is put together. For the most part, I was very
impressed with the level of gameplay from most of these people. I was
expecting people to just phone it in, but most played pretty hardcore
games. Parv obviously came to make a point and she succeeded.
After watching this season, I wonder if S49 is going to be a huge
letdown? Or will the fact that it's been kind of forgotten because of
this and S50 be a good thing for S49 as long as it doesn't completely
suck?
I did see one news item about S49 which was that two players were
apparently replaced at the last moment (12 hours before filming) and replaced with alternates due to talking to other contestants beforehand.
-aDid you hear about this?
https://www.tvinsider.com/1212835/survivor-49-players-replaced-reason- jeff-probst-explains/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0_QE0Vwllk
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production of
the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired locally as a
two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime for the video was
90 minutes. With one small exception which I will note below, I
think the cinematography was really good.-a But I will admit it.
Once I realized what the final four immunity challenge would be, I
pretty much knew how the rest of the episode would go and and I had
a pretty good idea who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the F4
IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown away by
how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes amazed me. I
thought she would be out in under five minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the show
had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed clips of a few
of them).-a There is always a standing and sometimes balancing element,
but having to simultaneously hold up the weights was a good touch.
The only thing really missing was that they didn't do it right on the
water's edge as they like to do so the waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow
footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be Parv's
challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing skills, I
figured she would win the challenge easily, and she did.-a And as I
said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins F4 immunity, she
probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would
factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done this
challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he may
have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical challenges - even
before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with
Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her
promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be a
2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire challenge?-a I >>>> was pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to Luke and force the
2-2 tie, though the show tried hard to make us think she wouldn't.
I think Janine knew she had no real chance to win either way, so it
made sense to me she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not going
to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because she knew
Cirie and Parv had much better stories than her and good convey them
to the jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, and
I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did.-a She
clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was oohing and
ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even
though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself rooting for her
here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be
moderately interesting. What would Cirie say in her presentation to
the jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in her final
summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but it would
have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the wind
blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. It's
good she was eventually successful even if it happened a few minutes
too late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor in her
agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv would
have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would have
gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was more aligned
with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably would have gotten
Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may have also gotten
Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had beaten him in fire.-a Not
sure who else she could have gotten.-a A lot might have depended on her
speech and what she would have said to try to differentiate herself
from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. I'm not
sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he was iffy on
Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he was very impressed
with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. She earned his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII which she could have easily
done. At best for Cirie, it would have been 4rCo3.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episode
was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with
the cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge
where the flames they have set up at TC were directly behind Cirie
and Luke as they were working on their own fires.-a I kept seeing the >>>> background flames and thought it was one of their fires, but it
wasn't.-a Someone should have maybe thought about that during filming >>>> and positioned the cameras differently or just extinguished the
flames directly behind Luke and Cirie.-a It was still an exciting and >>>> dramatic fire challenge, one of the best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially behind
Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for me
as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to
questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did
slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was
whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting Sarah's
vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he surprised
me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact
that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both gave enthusiastic
votes for Parv with absolutely no bitterness over how she had voted
them out.-a Very classy. I would love to see Kass play again, and
wonder if she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place money?
I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian
Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian, but
I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of days
they are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works similarly to how
it does on Amazing Race, where only the winning team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it include
US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they are doing it
differently.-a But nothing has been said about that except the top
prize is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm pretty sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money second. I'd be surprised
if there wasn't an appearance fee given to everyone.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her season
(they were voted out one after the other), and once she left the game,
she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left so early in the
process that she might not have really seen all of Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her question,
but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at FTC. It was
like she was trying to sell the jury a product that they knew was
faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd be
that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the
condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She was
never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that Sarah threw
Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the event of
different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance perfectly. I
also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was Janine who first
turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who pointed that out? It
was like Janine was not expecting anyone to fact check her. Huge mistake
on her part.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been tripped
up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors copying Kass's
question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job
thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor winner's
club, and she becomes the only one of the three to retire as a
winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their attempts to win a
third time, and it is classy and cool that Parv knows how to retire
on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more shot in Survivor 50 for her
first win, and then hopefully she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see Parv
back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as long as
there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that point,
so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as long as his
health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back for what would be
30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in context, that's about
how long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight Show.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show which helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to pay
her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality show
performer and I think she will play until she either drops or wins,
whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is that
her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One of the
reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other reality shows. But
he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot of people by openly having
sex with another HG despite being in a long-term relationship. I'll
never forget the time she said to him "Don't go and do something stupid
and fuck up the good thing you have with Kenzie." But he did.
I think Parv is serious about not wanting to play again, but who knows
what her situation will be in five years?-a She might need the money.
I was surprised when she said she needs money now but I guess a nasty divorce can lead to a ton of financial problems.
And for the record, I'm not sure Survivor would ever consider paying a
$5 million first place prize, especially with CBS under new ownership
and projected belt-tightening.-a As long as ratings remain good, they
really don't need to do that.
I would have agreed a few months ago. When the new guys announced they
were going to spend $7.7 billion to acquire all of the UFC rights and content for seven years, I kind of stopped believing in all of the gloom
and doom for Paramount Global.
My one big regret for the season was that Hayley Leake did not get
to play.-a She won George's first season beating him in the final,
and she played what may be the best all around performance on any
Australian Survivor season.-a It would have been fun to see her in
the cast in place of, say Janine, who ultimately was a pretty big
non- factor in the game. I think Hayley is the one player not on the
season that could have given Parv a run for the money.
I was happy with the cast. It's impossible to know how things will
play out when a cast is put together. For the most part, I was very
impressed with the level of gameplay from most of these people. I was
expecting people to just phone it in, but most played pretty hardcore
games. Parv obviously came to make a point and she succeeded.
After watching this season, I wonder if S49 is going to be a huge
letdown? Or will the fact that it's been kind of forgotten because of
this and S50 be a good thing for S49 as long as it doesn't completely
suck?
I did see one news item about S49 which was that two players were
apparently replaced at the last moment (12 hours before filming) and
replaced with alternates due to talking to other contestants
beforehand. -a-aDid you hear about this?
https://www.tvinsider.com/1212835/survivor-49-players-replaced-reason-
jeff-probst-explains/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0_QE0Vwllk
Yes. I saw Dalton and Mike Bloom talk about it. I was going to wait
until this was done to post as I can only focus on so much when BB is
being played.
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production of
the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired locally as
a two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime for the video
was 90 minutes. With one small exception which I will note below, I >>>>> think the cinematography was really good.-a But I will admit it.
Once I realized what the final four immunity challenge would be, I
pretty much knew how the rest of the episode would go and and I had >>>>> a pretty good idea who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the F4
IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown away
by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes amazed
me. I thought she would be out in under five minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the
show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed clips of
a few of them).-a There is always a standing and sometimes balancing
element, but having to simultaneously hold up the weights was a good
touch. The only thing really missing was that they didn't do it right
on the water's edge as they like to do so the waves can come crashing
in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow
footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be
Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing
skills, I figured she would win the challenge easily, and she did. >>>>> And as I said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins F4
immunity, she probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would
factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done this
challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he may
have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical challenges - even >>> before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with
Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her
promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be a >>>>> 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire challenge?
I was pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to Luke and force
the 2-2 tie, though the show tried hard to make us think she
wouldn't. I think Janine knew she had no real chance to win either
way, so it made sense to me she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not going
to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because she knew
Cirie and Parv had much better stories than her and good convey them
to the jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, and >>>>> I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did.-a She >>>>> clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was oohing and >>>>> ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even >>>>> though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself rooting for her
here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be
moderately interesting. What would Cirie say in her presentation to >>>>> the jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in her final
summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but it would
have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the wind
blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. It's
good she was eventually successful even if it happened a few minutes
too late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor in her
agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv would
have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would have
gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was more aligned
with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably would have gotten
Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may have also gotten
Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had beaten him in fire.-a Not
sure who else she could have gotten.-a A lot might have depended on
her speech and what she would have said to try to differentiate
herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. I'm
not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he was iffy
on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he was very
impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. She earned
his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII which she could
have easily done. At best for Cirie, it would have been 4rCo3.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episodeYes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially behind
was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with
the cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge
where the flames they have set up at TC were directly behind Cirie
and Luke as they were working on their own fires.-a I kept seeing
the background flames and thought it was one of their fires, but it >>>>> wasn't.-a Someone should have maybe thought about that during
filming and positioned the cameras differently or just extinguished >>>>> the flames directly behind Luke and Cirie.-a It was still an
exciting and dramatic fire challenge, one of the best I can remember. >>>>
Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for me
as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers toI would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did
slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was
whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting Sarah's >>>>> vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he surprised >>>>> me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact
that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both gave
enthusiastic votes for Parv with absolutely no bitterness over how
she had voted them out.-a Very classy. I would love to see Kass play >>>>> again, and wonder if she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor. >>>>
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place
money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian
Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian, but
I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of days
they are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works similarly to
how it does on Amazing Race, where only the winning team gets big bucks. >>>
Now because this is a special season and especially since it include
US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they are doing
it differently.-a But nothing has been said about that except the top
prize is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to
play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm pretty
sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money second. I'd
be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given to everyone.
If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a notoriously tight budget, which is one of the reasons they probably cut the top prize for
this season in half, and possibly a factor in them getting rid of JLP.
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot he might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in the show's
history.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her season
(they were voted out one after the other), and once she left the
game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left so early in
the process that she might not have really seen all of Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon said she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can find the interviews on
the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her question,
but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at FTC. It was
like she was trying to sell the jury a product that they knew was
faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd be
that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the
condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She was
never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that Sarah
threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the event of
different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance perfectly. I
also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was Janine who first
turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who pointed that out? It
was like Janine was not expecting anyone to fact check her. Huge
mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills, but her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been tripped
up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors copying Kass's
question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job
thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor winner's
club, and she becomes the only one of the three to retire as a
winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their attempts to win a
third time, and it is classy and cool that Parv knows how to retire >>>>> on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more shot in Survivor 50 for her >>>>> first win, and then hopefully she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see Parv
back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as long as
there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that
point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as
long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back for
what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in context,
that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight Show.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show which
helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to pay
her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality show
performer and I think she will play until she either drops or wins,
whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is that
her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One of the
reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other reality shows.
But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot of people by openly
having sex with another HG despite being in a long-term relationship.
I'll never forget the time she said to him "Don't go and do something
stupid and fuck up the good thing you have with Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on Survivor way
back when?-a Jared, I think?
I think Parv is serious about not wanting to play again, but who
knows what her situation will be in five years?-a She might need the
money.
I was surprised when she said she needs money now but I guess a nasty
divorce can lead to a ton of financial problems.
Especially when it's public knowledge you've already won over $1 million
on reality TV.-a Who knows what kind of alimony/support she might be paying.
On 9/7/2025 11:31 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production of >>>>>> the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired locally as >>>>>> a two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime for the video >>>>>> was 90 minutes. With one small exception which I will note below, >>>>>> I think the cinematography was really good.-a But I will admit it. >>>>>> Once I realized what the final four immunity challenge would be, I >>>>>> pretty much knew how the rest of the episode would go and and I
had a pretty good idea who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the
F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown
away by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes
amazed me. I thought she would be out in under five minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the
show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed clips
of a few of them).-a There is always a standing and sometimes
balancing element, but having to simultaneously hold up the weights
was a good touch. The only thing really missing was that they didn't
do it right on the water's edge as they like to do so the waves can
come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow
footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be
Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing >>>>>> skills, I figured she would win the challenge easily, and she did. >>>>>> And as I said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins F4
immunity, she probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would
factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done this
challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he may
have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical challenges -
even before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with
Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her
promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be a >>>>>> 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire challenge? >>>>>> I was pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to Luke and force >>>>>> the 2-2 tie, though the show tried hard to make us think she
wouldn't. I think Janine knew she had no real chance to win either >>>>>> way, so it made sense to me she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not going >>>>> to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because she knew >>>>> Cirie and Parv had much better stories than her and good convey
them to the jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge,
and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did. >>>>>> She clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was
oohing and ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat
Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself >>>>>> rooting for her here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could
actually be moderately interesting. What would Cirie say in her
presentation to the jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in >>>>>> her final summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but >>>>>> it would have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the wind
blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. It's
good she was eventually successful even if it happened a few
minutes too late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor
in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv
would have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would have
gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was more
aligned with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably would
have gotten Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may have
also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had beaten him
in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have gotten.-a A lot might have >>>> depended on her speech and what she would have said to try to
differentiate herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. I'm
not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he was
iffy on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he was very
impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. She earned
his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII which she
could have easily done. At best for Cirie, it would have been 4rCo3.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episode >>>>>> was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with >>>>>> the cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge
where the flames they have set up at TC were directly behind Cirie >>>>>> and Luke as they were working on their own fires.-a I kept seeing >>>>>> the background flames and thought it was one of their fires, but
it wasn't.-a Someone should have maybe thought about that during
filming and positioned the cameras differently or just
extinguished the flames directly behind Luke and Cirie.-a It was
still an exciting and dramatic fire challenge, one of the best I
can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially behind >>>>> Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for me >>>>> as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to
questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did
slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was >>>>>> whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting
Sarah's vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he >>>>>> surprised me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I loved >>>>>> the fact that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both gave
enthusiastic votes for Parv with absolutely no bitterness over how >>>>>> she had voted them out.-a Very classy. I would love to see Kass
play again, and wonder if she will ever get an invite to play US
Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place
money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian
Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian,
but I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of
days they are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works similarly >>>> to how it does on Amazing Race, where only the winning team gets big
bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it include
US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they are doing
it differently.-a But nothing has been said about that except the top >>>> prize is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to
play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm pretty
sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money second. I'd
be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given to everyone.
If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm
pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a notoriously
tight budget, which is one of the reasons they probably cut the top
prize for this season in half, and possibly a factor in them getting
rid of JLP.
Did CBS ever officially announce the appearance fee the players got for
S40? I assumed the prize money was cut because the season was so short.
Hard to justify the same prize money with a lot episodes than normal.
You also need to keep in mind the network is owned by Paramount Global
so they would have been part of the cost cutting during the merger negotiations.
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot he
might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in the
show's history.
I don't recall seeing anything where Tony mentioned that as a reason. Wanting the "World" title might have been a reason.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her
season (they were voted out one after the other), and once she left
the game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left so early >>>> in the process that she might not have really seen all of Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a
notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon said
she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can find the
interviews on the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
Interesting.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her question,
but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at FTC. It was >>>>> like she was trying to sell the jury a product that they knew was
faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd be
that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the
condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She
was never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that Sarah
threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the event of
different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance perfectly. I
also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was Janine who first
turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who pointed that out? It
was like Janine was not expecting anyone to fact check her. Huge
mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills, but
her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been tripped >>>>> up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors copying Kass's >>>>> question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job
thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor winner's >>>>>> club, and she becomes the only one of the three to retire as a
winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their attempts to win a
third time, and it is classy and cool that Parv knows how to
retire on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more shot in Survivor 50 >>>>>> for her first win, and then hopefully she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see Parv >>>>> back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as long as
there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that
point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as
long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back for
what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in context, >>>> that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight Show.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show which
helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to pay
her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality show
performer and I think she will play until she either drops or wins,
whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is
that her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One of
the reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other reality
shows. But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot of people by
openly having sex with another HG despite being in a long-term
relationship. I'll never forget the time she said to him "Don't go
and do something stupid and fuck up the good thing you have with
Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on Survivor way
back when?-a Jared, I think?
Yes! It was the family visit in Game Changers.
I think Parv is serious about not wanting to play again, but who
knows what her situation will be in five years?-a She might need the
money.
I was surprised when she said she needs money now but I guess a nasty
divorce can lead to a ton of financial problems.
Especially when it's public knowledge you've already won over $1
million on reality TV.-a Who knows what kind of alimony/support she
might be paying.
Hopefully not too much.
On 9/8/2025 2:47 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:31 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production >>>>>>> of the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired
locally as a two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime >>>>>>> for the video was 90 minutes. With one small exception which I
will note below, I think the cinematography was really good.-a But >>>>>>> I will admit it. Once I realized what the final four immunity
challenge would be, I pretty much knew how the rest of the
episode would go and and I had a pretty good idea who the winner >>>>>>> would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the >>>>>> F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown
away by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes
amazed me. I thought she would be out in under five minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the
show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed clips
of a few of them).-a There is always a standing and sometimes
balancing element, but having to simultaneously hold up the weights >>>>> was a good touch. The only thing really missing was that they
didn't do it right on the water's edge as they like to do so the
waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow
footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be
Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing >>>>>>> skills, I figured she would win the challenge easily, and she
did. And as I said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins >>>>>>> F4 immunity, she probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would >>>>>> factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done this >>>>>> challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he may
have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical challenges -
even before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with >>>>>>> Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her >>>>>>> promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be >>>>>>> a 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fireThe only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not
challenge? I was pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to
Luke and force the 2-2 tie, though the show tried hard to make us >>>>>>> think she wouldn't. I think Janine knew she had no real chance to >>>>>>> win either way, so it made sense to me she would honor the promise. >>>>>>
going to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because
she knew Cirie and Parv had much better stories than her and good >>>>>> convey them to the jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, >>>>>>> and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she did. >>>>>>> She clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury was
oohing and ahhing every time it looked like her flame might beat >>>>>>> Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found myself >>>>>>> rooting for her here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could >>>>>>> actually be moderately interesting. What would Cirie say in her >>>>>>> presentation to the jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in >>>>>>> her final summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but >>>>>>> it would have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the wind >>>>>> blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. It's >>>>>> good she was eventually successful even if it happened a few
minutes too late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor >>>>>> in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv
would have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would have >>>>> gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was more
aligned with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably would
have gotten Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may have
also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had beaten him >>>>> in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have gotten.-a A lot might
have depended on her speech and what she would have said to try to
differentiate herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. I'm
not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he was
iffy on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he was
very impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. She
earned his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII which
she could have easily done. At best for Cirie, it would have been 4rCo3. >>>>
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the episode >>>>>>> was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I had with >>>>>>> the cinematography of the episode was during the fire challenge >>>>>>> where the flames they have set up at TC were directly behind
Cirie and Luke as they were working on their own fires.-a I kept >>>>>>> seeing the background flames and thought it was one of their
fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone should have maybe thought about >>>>>>> that during filming and positioned the cameras differently or
just extinguished the flames directly behind Luke and Cirie.-a It >>>>>>> was still an exciting and dramatic fire challenge, one of the
best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially
behind Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for
me as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to >>>>>>> questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did
slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question was >>>>>>> whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting
Sarah's vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but he >>>>>>> surprised me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I
loved the fact that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby both >>>>>>> gave enthusiastic votes for Parv with absolutely no bitterness
over how she had voted them out.-a Very classy. I would love to >>>>>>> see Kass play again, and wonder if she will ever get an invite to >>>>>>> play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place
money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian
Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian,
but I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of
days they are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works
similarly to how it does on Amazing Race, where only the winning
team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it
include US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they
are doing it differently.-a But nothing has been said about that
except the top prize is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to
play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm pretty
sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money second. I'd
be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given to everyone.
If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm
pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a notoriously
tight budget, which is one of the reasons they probably cut the top
prize for this season in half, and possibly a factor in them getting
rid of JLP.
Did CBS ever officially announce the appearance fee the players got
for S40? I assumed the prize money was cut because the season was so
short. Hard to justify the same prize money with a lot episodes than
normal. You also need to keep in mind the network is owned by
Paramount Global so they would have been part of the cost cutting
during the merger negotiations.
I don't know if CBS ever officially announced the appearance fees for Winners at War, but it was general knowledge among fans at the time and there were several articles about it, such as in Entertainment Weekly. I haven't seen any articles suggesting that players got anything extra for playing Australia v. World, though it's certainly possible.
Also, while Paramount Global does have high level ownership of the show,
I haven't seen anything to suggest they are throwing money to Australia
Ten or Endemol Shine Australia, which actually produces the show and
which is owned by the French company Banijay.-a Australian Survivor is a pretty small piece of Paramount's world pie, and I don't think it is
much more than a tiny blip on their radar.
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot he
might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in the
show's history.
I don't recall seeing anything where Tony mentioned that as a reason.
Wanting the "World" title might have been a reason.
Tony did mention he came back to win the "World" title, but I think it
is obvious as the only two-time winner playing that he had to be
thinking about winning an unprecedented third time.
By the way, Tony specifically told Mike Bloom that he initially turned
down the invite to play because the $250K prize money wasn't enough, especially when you convert that to US dollars, but that he changed his
mind when he realized it was for the World title.-a Again it is possible they paid the Americans a little extra to get them to play, but so far
no one seems to be copping to that.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her
season (they were voted out one after the other), and once she left >>>>> the game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left so
early in the process that she might not have really seen all of
Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a
notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon
said she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can find
the interviews on the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
Interesting.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her question, >>>>>> but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at FTC. It
was like she was trying to sell the jury a product that they knew >>>>>> was faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd be
that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the
condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She
was never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that
Sarah threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the
event of different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance perfectly.
I also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was Janine who
first turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who pointed that
out? It was like Janine was not expecting anyone to fact check her.
Huge mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills, but
her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been
tripped up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors
copying Kass's question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job
thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show whichSo Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor
winner's club, and she becomes the only one of the three to
retire as a winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their
attempts to win a third time, and it is classy and cool that Parv >>>>>>> knows how to retire on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more shot >>>>>>> in Survivor 50 for her first win, and then hopefully she will
retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see
Parv back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as
long as there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that
point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as
long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back for
what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in
context, that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight Show. >>>>
helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to
pay her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality show >>>>> performer and I think she will play until she either drops or wins, >>>>> whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is
that her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One of
the reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other reality
shows. But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot of people by
openly having sex with another HG despite being in a long-term
relationship. I'll never forget the time she said to him "Don't go
and do something stupid and fuck up the good thing you have with
Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on Survivor
way back when?-a Jared, I think?
Yes! It was the family visit in Game Changers.
Does that make Jared the first family visit member who later appeared on
a different reality show?
On 9/8/2025 8:39 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 2:47 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:31 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production >>>>>>>> of the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired
locally as a two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime >>>>>>>> for the video was 90 minutes. With one small exception which I >>>>>>>> will note below, I think the cinematography was really good. >>>>>>>> But I will admit it. Once I realized what the final four
immunity challenge would be, I pretty much knew how the rest of >>>>>>>> the episode would go and and I had a pretty good idea who the >>>>>>>> winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how the >>>>>>> F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was blown >>>>>>> away by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ minutes >>>>>>> amazed me. I thought she would be out in under five minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the >>>>>> show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed clips >>>>>> of a few of them).-a There is always a standing and sometimes
balancing element, but having to simultaneously hold up the
weights was a good touch. The only thing really missing was that
they didn't do it right on the water's edge as they like to do so >>>>>> the waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow >>>>>>>> footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be >>>>>>>> Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and balancing >>>>>>>> skills, I figured she would win the challenge easily, and she >>>>>>>> did. And as I said in my comments on last episode, if Parv wins >>>>>>>> F4 immunity, she probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight would >>>>>>> factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had done
this challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he may >>>>>> have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical challenges - >>>>>> even before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with >>>>>>>> Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor her >>>>>>>> promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was gonna be >>>>>>>> a 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the fire
challenge? I was pretty sure Janine would honor her promise to >>>>>>>> Luke and force the 2-2 tie, though the show tried hard to make >>>>>>>> us think she wouldn't. I think Janine knew she had no real
chance to win either way, so it made sense to me she would honor >>>>>>>> the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not
going to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because >>>>>>> she knew Cirie and Parv had much better stories than her and good >>>>>>> convey them to the jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, >>>>>>>> and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she
did. She clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury >>>>>>>> was oohing and ahhing every time it looked like her flame might >>>>>>>> beat Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found >>>>>>>> myself rooting for her here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 >>>>>>>> could actually be moderately interesting. What would Cirie say >>>>>>>> in her presentation to the jury and how would Parv characterize >>>>>>>> Cirie in her final summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would
still win, but it would have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the
wind blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as well. >>>>>>> It's good she was eventually successful even if it happened a few >>>>>>> minutes too late. I wonder if this one event was a driving factor >>>>>>> in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv
would have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would
have gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was more >>>>>> aligned with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably would
have gotten Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may have >>>>>> also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had beaten
him in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have gotten.-a A lot
might have depended on her speech and what she would have said to >>>>>> try to differentiate herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. I'm >>>>> not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he was
iffy on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he was
very impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. She
earned his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII which >>>>> she could have easily done. At best for Cirie, it would have been 4rCo3. >>>>>
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the
episode was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue I >>>>>>>> had with the cinematography of the episode was during the fire >>>>>>>> challenge where the flames they have set up at TC were directly >>>>>>>> behind Cirie and Luke as they were working on their own fires. >>>>>>>> I kept seeing the background flames and thought it was one of >>>>>>>> their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone should have maybe thought >>>>>>>> about that during filming and positioned the cameras differently >>>>>>>> or just extinguished the flames directly behind Luke and Cirie. >>>>>>>> It was still an exciting and dramatic fire challenge, one of the >>>>>>>> best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially
behind Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for >>>>>>> me as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers to >>>>>>>> questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he did >>>>>>>> slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining question >>>>>>>> was whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end up getting >>>>>>>> Sarah's vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as well, but >>>>>>>> he surprised me in joining everyone else in voting for Parv.-a I >>>>>>>> loved the fact that game recognizes game, and Kass and Kirby
both gave enthusiastic votes for Parv with absolutely no
bitterness over how she had voted them out.-a Very classy. I
would love to see Kass play again, and wonder if she will ever >>>>>>>> get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place
money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian >>>>>> Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian, >>>>>> but I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of >>>>>> days they are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works
similarly to how it does on Amazing Race, where only the winning
team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it
include US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they >>>>>> are doing it differently.-a But nothing has been said about that
except the top prize is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to
play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm pretty >>>>> sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money second.
I'd be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given to everyone. >>>>
pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a
notoriously tight budget, which is one of the reasons they probably
cut the top prize for this season in half, and possibly a factor in
them getting rid of JLP.
Did CBS ever officially announce the appearance fee the players got
for S40? I assumed the prize money was cut because the season was so
short. Hard to justify the same prize money with a lot episodes than
normal. You also need to keep in mind the network is owned by
Paramount Global so they would have been part of the cost cutting
during the merger negotiations.
I don't know if CBS ever officially announced the appearance fees for
Winners at War, but it was general knowledge among fans at the time
and there were several articles about it, such as in Entertainment
Weekly. I haven't seen any articles suggesting that players got
anything extra for playing Australia v. World, though it's certainly
possible.
Also, while Paramount Global does have high level ownership of the
show, I haven't seen anything to suggest they are throwing money to
Australia Ten or Endemol Shine Australia, which actually produces the
show and which is owned by the French company Banijay.-a Australian
Survivor is a pretty small piece of Paramount's world pie, and I don't
think it is much more than a tiny blip on their radar.
Paramount does own the network and would want their content to succeed
and be profitable.
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot he
might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in the
show's history.
I don't recall seeing anything where Tony mentioned that as a reason.
Wanting the "World" title might have been a reason.
Tony did mention he came back to win the "World" title, but I think it
is obvious as the only two-time winner playing that he had to be
thinking about winning an unprecedented third time.
By the way, Tony specifically told Mike Bloom that he initially turned
down the invite to play because the $250K prize money wasn't enough,
especially when you convert that to US dollars, but that he changed
his mind when he realized it was for the World title.-a Again it is
possible they paid the Americans a little extra to get them to play,
but so far no one seems to be copping to that.
I highly doubt the Americans got paid more. I think we discussed this before, the prize money is likely tax free as it is in Canada. For the
time commitment required to do the show, ~$250K isn't bad. It could also lead to other opportunities.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her
season (they were voted out one after the other), and once she
left the game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left >>>>>> so early in the process that she might not have really seen all of >>>>>> Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a
notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon
said she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can find
the interviews on the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
Interesting.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her
question, but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke at >>>>>>> FTC. It was like she was trying to sell the jury a product that >>>>>>> they knew was faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd be >>>>>> that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the
condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She >>>>>> was never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that
Sarah threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the >>>>>> event of different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance perfectly. >>>>> I also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was Janine who
first turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who pointed that >>>>> out? It was like Janine was not expecting anyone to fact check her. >>>>> Huge mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills, but
her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been
tripped up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors
copying Kass's question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job
thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the showSo Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor
winner's club, and she becomes the only one of the three to
retire as a winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their
attempts to win a third time, and it is classy and cool that
Parv knows how to retire on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more >>>>>>>> shot in Survivor 50 for her first win, and then hopefully she >>>>>>>> will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see
Parv back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as
long as there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that
point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as >>>>>> long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back for >>>>>> what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in
context, that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight Show. >>>>>
which helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to
pay her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality show >>>>>> performer and I think she will play until she either drops or
wins, whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is
that her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One of >>>>> the reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other reality
shows. But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot of people
by openly having sex with another HG despite being in a long-term
relationship. I'll never forget the time she said to him "Don't go
and do something stupid and fuck up the good thing you have with
Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on Survivor
way back when?-a Jared, I think?
Yes! It was the family visit in Game Changers.
Does that make Jared the first family visit member who later appeared
on a different reality show?
Good question. I've never seen anyone address this topic and remember
few family members. It's possible a family member later appeared on a
Blood vs. Water season. For example, Candice's husband. I can't recall though if Candice made the family visit in Heroes vs. Villains, and if
she did, was John her person?
On 9/8/2025 4:51 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/8/2025 8:39 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 2:47 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:31 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the production >>>>>>>>> of the finale, and I was pleased to see it must have aired
locally as a two- hour episode with commercials, as the runtime >>>>>>>>> for the video was 90 minutes. With one small exception which I >>>>>>>>> will note below, I think the cinematography was really good. >>>>>>>>> But I will admit it. Once I realized what the final four
immunity challenge would be, I pretty much knew how the rest of >>>>>>>>> the episode would go and and I had a pretty good idea who the >>>>>>>>> winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how >>>>>>>> the F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was >>>>>>>> blown away by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ >>>>>>>> minutes amazed me. I thought she would be out in under five
minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges the >>>>>>> show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed
clips of a few of them).-a There is always a standing and
sometimes balancing element, but having to simultaneously hold up >>>>>>> the weights was a good touch. The only thing really missing was >>>>>>> that they didn't do it right on the water's edge as they like to >>>>>>> do so the waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow >>>>>>>>> footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be >>>>>>>>> Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type and
balancing skills, I figured she would win the challenge easily, >>>>>>>>> and she did. And as I said in my comments on last episode, if >>>>>>>>> Parv wins F4 immunity, she probably wins the season.
I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight
would factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had >>>>>>>> done this challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he
may have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical
challenges - even before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote with >>>>>>>>> Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would honor >>>>>>>>> her promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there was >>>>>>>>> gonna be a 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win the >>>>>>>>> fire challenge? I was pretty sure Janine would honor her
promise to Luke and force the 2-2 tie, though the show tried >>>>>>>>> hard to make us think she wouldn't. I think Janine knew she had >>>>>>>>> no real chance to win either way, so it made sense to me she >>>>>>>>> would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not >>>>>>>> going to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke because >>>>>>>> she knew Cirie and Parv had much better stories than her and
good convey them to the jury much better than Luke could.
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire challenge, >>>>>>>>> and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as well as she >>>>>>>>> did. She clearly had a chance, and it was fun to see the jury >>>>>>>>> was oohing and ahhing every time it looked like her flame might >>>>>>>>> beat Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie fan at all, I found >>>>>>>>> myself rooting for her here because a Parv- Cirie match-up in >>>>>>>>> F3 could actually be moderately interesting. What would Cirie >>>>>>>>> say in her presentation to the jury and how would Parv
characterize Cirie in her final summation?-a I was pretty sure >>>>>>>>> Parv would still win, but it would have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the >>>>>>>> wind blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as
well. It's good she was eventually successful even if it
happened a few minutes too late. I wonder if this one event was >>>>>>>> a driving factor in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv >>>>>>>> would have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would
have gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was
more aligned with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably >>>>>>> would have gotten Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She may >>>>>>> have also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she had
beaten him in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have gotten.-a A >>>>>>> lot might have depended on her speech and what she would have
said to try to differentiate herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's.
I'm not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he >>>>>> was iffy on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he
was very impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. >>>>>> She earned his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII >>>>>> which she could have easily done. At best for Cirie, it would have >>>>>> been 4rCo3.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the
episode was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue >>>>>>>>> I had with the cinematography of the episode was during the >>>>>>>>> fire challenge where the flames they have set up at TC were >>>>>>>>> directly behind Cirie and Luke as they were working on their >>>>>>>>> own fires. I kept seeing the background flames and thought it >>>>>>>>> was one of their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone should have >>>>>>>>> maybe thought about that during filming and positioned the
cameras differently or just extinguished the flames directly >>>>>>>>> behind Luke and Cirie. It was still an exciting and dramatic >>>>>>>>> fire challenge, one of the best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially
behind Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic for >>>>>>>> me as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers >>>>>>>>> to questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he >>>>>>>>> did slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining
question was whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end >>>>>>>>> up getting Sarah's vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him as >>>>>>>>> well, but he surprised me in joining everyone else in voting >>>>>>>>> for Parv.-a I loved the fact that game recognizes game, and Kass >>>>>>>>> and Kirby both gave enthusiastic votes for Parv with absolutely >>>>>>>>> no bitterness over how she had voted them out.-a Very classy. I >>>>>>>>> would love to see Kass play again, and wonder if she will ever >>>>>>>>> get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place >>>>>>>> money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on Australian >>>>>>> Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K Australian, >>>>>>> but I think everyone else just gets a per diem based on number of >>>>>>> days they are on the island.-a In that sense, the pay works
similarly to how it does on Amazing Race, where only the winning >>>>>>> team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it
include US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe they >>>>>>> are doing it differently.-a But nothing has been said about that >>>>>>> except the top prize is half the usual amount, $250K Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to >>>>>> play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm
pretty sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money
second. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given
to everyone.
If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm
pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a
notoriously tight budget, which is one of the reasons they probably >>>>> cut the top prize for this season in half, and possibly a factor in >>>>> them getting rid of JLP.
Did CBS ever officially announce the appearance fee the players got
for S40? I assumed the prize money was cut because the season was so
short. Hard to justify the same prize money with a lot episodes than
normal. You also need to keep in mind the network is owned by
Paramount Global so they would have been part of the cost cutting
during the merger negotiations.
I don't know if CBS ever officially announced the appearance fees for
Winners at War, but it was general knowledge among fans at the time
and there were several articles about it, such as in Entertainment
Weekly. I haven't seen any articles suggesting that players got
anything extra for playing Australia v. World, though it's certainly
possible.
Also, while Paramount Global does have high level ownership of the
show, I haven't seen anything to suggest they are throwing money to
Australia Ten or Endemol Shine Australia, which actually produces the
show and which is owned by the French company Banijay.-a Australian
Survivor is a pretty small piece of Paramount's world pie, and I
don't think it is much more than a tiny blip on their radar.
Paramount does own the network and would want their content to succeed
and be profitable.
Yes, they own the network (TenPlay) but they do not own the company
which produces the show - Endemol Shine Australia. They also don't own
the concept or format, which are owned by Castaway Productions.-a As I understand it, both Castaway and Endemol are owned by the independent
French company Banjay.-a Now clearly Paramount has a lot of influence
over the show and can pour money into it if they want, but I just
haven't seen any indication they want to do that.-a The show has always
had a reputation for being somewhat cheaply produced (especially
compared to US Survivor), and I just haven't seen any indication of that changing.
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot he
might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in the
show's history.
I don't recall seeing anything where Tony mentioned that as a
reason. Wanting the "World" title might have been a reason.
Tony did mention he came back to win the "World" title, but I think
it is obvious as the only two-time winner playing that he had to be
thinking about winning an unprecedented third time.
By the way, Tony specifically told Mike Bloom that he initially
turned down the invite to play because the $250K prize money wasn't
enough, especially when you convert that to US dollars, but that he
changed his mind when he realized it was for the World title.-a Again
it is possible they paid the Americans a little extra to get them to
play, but so far no one seems to be copping to that.
I highly doubt the Americans got paid more. I think we discussed this
before, the prize money is likely tax free as it is in Canada. For the
time commitment required to do the show, ~$250K isn't bad. It could
also lead to other opportunities.
Yes, we talked about that here.-a The Australian law apparently says that
if you receive income from an activity you don't do as a regular job,
you don't pay tax on the earnings.-a Now we can joke about the fact that people like Parv and Cirie have effectively made reality show
appearances their regular job, but they can probably make the case that
they don't do that regularly in Australia.
And Tony wasn't talking about the tax effects - he was talking about the exchange rate.-a $250K Australian at the current exchange rate is only
$165K US.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her
season (they were voted out one after the other), and once she
left the game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left >>>>>>> so early in the process that she might not have really seen all >>>>>>> of Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a
notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon
said she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can find >>>>> the interviews on the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
Interesting.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her
question, but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke >>>>>>>> at FTC. It was like she was trying to sell the jury a product >>>>>>>> that they knew was faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd >>>>>>> be that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the >>>>>>> condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game.-a She >>>>>>> was never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right that
Sarah threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie in the >>>>>>> event of different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance
perfectly. I also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was
Janine who first turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who >>>>>> pointed that out? It was like Janine was not expecting anyone to
fact check her. Huge mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills, but >>>>> her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been
tripped up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors
copying Kass's question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job >>>>>>> thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor
winner's club, and she becomes the only one of the three to >>>>>>>>> retire as a winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their
attempts to win a third time, and it is classy and cool that >>>>>>>>> Parv knows how to retire on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one more >>>>>>>>> shot in Survivor 50 for her first win, and then hopefully she >>>>>>>>> will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see >>>>>>>> Parv back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as >>>>>>>> long as there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that >>>>>>> point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose as >>>>>>> long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming back
for what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put this in >>>>>>> context, that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the Tonight >>>>>>> Show.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show
which helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to >>>>>>> pay her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality
show performer and I think she will play until she either drops >>>>>>> or wins, whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is >>>>>> that her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One
of the reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other
reality shows. But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot of >>>>>> people by openly having sex with another HG despite being in a
long-term relationship. I'll never forget the time she said to him >>>>>> "Don't go and do something stupid and fuck up the good thing you
have with Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on Survivor
way back when?-a Jared, I think?
Yes! It was the family visit in Game Changers.
Does that make Jared the first family visit member who later appeared
on a different reality show?
Good question. I've never seen anyone address this topic and remember
few family members. It's possible a family member later appeared on a
Blood vs. Water season. For example, Candice's husband. I can't recall
though if Candice made the family visit in Heroes vs. Villains, and if
she did, was John her person?
Don't know.-a I was actually wondering about Tina's daughter Katie who appeared with her on Blood vs. Water.-a Tina was around for the family
visit in the Outback and I believe her kids came and visited her.-a I
wonder if Katie was part of that visit?-a I also wondered about Ciera Eastin, but I'm pretty sure her mom Laura didn't last long enough in
Samoa for a family visit.
Spoilers ahead...
On 9/8/2025 6:30 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 4:51 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/8/2025 8:39 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 2:47 AM, Brian Smith wrote:Paramount does own the network and would want their content to
On 9/7/2025 11:31 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the
production of the finale, and I was pleased to see it must >>>>>>>>>> have aired locally as a two- hour episode with commercials, as >>>>>>>>>> the runtime for the video was 90 minutes. With one small
exception which I will note below, I think the cinematography >>>>>>>>>> was really good. But I will admit it. Once I realized what the >>>>>>>>>> final four immunity challenge would be, I pretty much knew how >>>>>>>>>> the rest of the episode would go and and I had a pretty good >>>>>>>>>> idea who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how >>>>>>>>> the F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was >>>>>>>>> blown away by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ >>>>>>>>> minutes amazed me. I thought she would be out in under five >>>>>>>>> minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges >>>>>>>> the show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they showed >>>>>>>> clips of a few of them).-a There is always a standing and
sometimes balancing element, but having to simultaneously hold >>>>>>>> up the weights was a good touch. The only thing really missing >>>>>>>> was that they didn't do it right on the water's edge as they
like to do so the waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on narrow >>>>>>>>>> footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this would be >>>>>>>>>> Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type andI wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight >>>>>>>>> would factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had >>>>>>>>> done this challenge before.
balancing skills, I figured she would win the challenge
easily, and she did. And as I said in my comments on last >>>>>>>>>> episode, if Parv wins F4 immunity, she probably wins the season. >>>>>>>>>
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he >>>>>>>> may have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical
challenges - even before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote >>>>>>>>>> with Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would >>>>>>>>>> honor her promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there >>>>>>>>>> was gonna be a 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win >>>>>>>>>> the fire challenge? I was pretty sure Janine would honor her >>>>>>>>>> promise to Luke and force the 2-2 tie, though the show tried >>>>>>>>>> hard to make us think she wouldn't. I think Janine knew she >>>>>>>>>> had no real chance to win either way, so it made sense to me >>>>>>>>>> she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not >>>>>>>>> going to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke
because she knew Cirie and Parv had much better stories than >>>>>>>>> her and good convey them to the jury much better than Luke could. >>>>>>>>>
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire
challenge, and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as >>>>>>>>>> well as she did. She clearly had a chance, and it was fun to >>>>>>>>>> see the jury was oohing and ahhing every time it looked like >>>>>>>>>> her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie fan >>>>>>>>>> at all, I found myself rooting for her here because a Parv- >>>>>>>>>> Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be moderately interesting. >>>>>>>>>> What would Cirie say in her presentation to the jury and how >>>>>>>>>> would Parv characterize Cirie in her final summation?-a I was >>>>>>>>>> pretty sure Parv would still win, but it would have been
interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the >>>>>>>>> wind blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as >>>>>>>>> well. It's good she was eventually successful even if it
happened a few minutes too late. I wonder if this one event was >>>>>>>>> a driving factor in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv >>>>>>>>> would have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would >>>>>>>> have gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was >>>>>>>> more aligned with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably >>>>>>>> would have gotten Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She >>>>>>>> may have also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she >>>>>>>> had beaten him in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have
gotten.-a A lot might have depended on her speech and what she >>>>>>>> would have said to try to differentiate herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. >>>>>>> I'm not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like he >>>>>>> was iffy on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like he >>>>>>> was very impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for Parv. >>>>>>> She earned his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing his HII >>>>>>> which she could have easily done. At best for Cirie, it would
have been 4rCo3.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the >>>>>>>>>> episode was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor issue >>>>>>>>>> I had with the cinematography of the episode was during the >>>>>>>>>> fire challenge where the flames they have set up at TC were >>>>>>>>>> directly behind Cirie and Luke as they were working on their >>>>>>>>>> own fires. I kept seeing the background flames and thought it >>>>>>>>>> was one of their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone should have >>>>>>>>>> maybe thought about that during filming and positioned the >>>>>>>>>> cameras differently or just extinguished the flames directly >>>>>>>>>> behind Luke and Cirie. It was still an exciting and dramatic >>>>>>>>>> fire challenge, one of the best I can remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially >>>>>>>>> behind Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic >>>>>>>>> for me as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers >>>>>>>>>> to questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he >>>>>>>>>> did slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining >>>>>>>>>> question was whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end >>>>>>>>>> up getting Sarah's vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him >>>>>>>>>> as well, but he surprised me in joining everyone else in
voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact that game recognizes game, >>>>>>>>>> and Kass and Kirby both gave enthusiastic votes for Parv with >>>>>>>>>> absolutely no bitterness over how she had voted them out. >>>>>>>>>> Very classy. I would love to see Kass play again, and wonder >>>>>>>>>> if she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place >>>>>>>>> money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on
Australian Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets $500K >>>>>>>> Australian, but I think everyone else just gets a per diem based >>>>>>>> on number of days they are on the island.-a In that sense, the >>>>>>>> pay works similarly to how it does on Amazing Race, where only >>>>>>>> the winning team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it
include US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe
they are doing it differently.-a But nothing has been said about >>>>>>>> that except the top prize is half the usual amount, $250K
Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony to >>>>>>> play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm
pretty sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money >>>>>>> second. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given >>>>>>> to everyone.
If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm >>>>>> pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a
notoriously tight budget, which is one of the reasons they
probably cut the top prize for this season in half, and possibly a >>>>>> factor in them getting rid of JLP.
Did CBS ever officially announce the appearance fee the players got >>>>> for S40? I assumed the prize money was cut because the season was
so short. Hard to justify the same prize money with a lot episodes
than normal. You also need to keep in mind the network is owned by
Paramount Global so they would have been part of the cost cutting
during the merger negotiations.
I don't know if CBS ever officially announced the appearance fees
for Winners at War, but it was general knowledge among fans at the
time and there were several articles about it, such as in
Entertainment Weekly. I haven't seen any articles suggesting that
players got anything extra for playing Australia v. World, though
it's certainly possible.
Also, while Paramount Global does have high level ownership of the
show, I haven't seen anything to suggest they are throwing money to
Australia Ten or Endemol Shine Australia, which actually produces
the show and which is owned by the French company Banijay.
Australian Survivor is a pretty small piece of Paramount's world
pie, and I don't think it is much more than a tiny blip on their radar. >>>
succeed and be profitable.
Yes, they own the network (TenPlay) but they do not own the company
which produces the show - Endemol Shine Australia. They also don't own
the concept or format, which are owned by Castaway Productions.-a As I
understand it, both Castaway and Endemol are owned by the independent
French company Banjay.-a Now clearly Paramount has a lot of influence
over the show and can pour money into it if they want, but I just
haven't seen any indication they want to do that.-a The show has always
had a reputation for being somewhat cheaply produced (especially
compared to US Survivor), and I just haven't seen any indication of
that changing.
What I said also applies to Banijay. If the show starts to look like
crap, people will stop watching, the network will cancel it, and Banijay loses a revenue stream. As for Survivor Australia being cheaply
produced, I didn't notice any difference in quality between it and the
U.S. version. Was this season better than an average season?
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot he >>>>>> might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in the >>>>>> show's history.
I don't recall seeing anything where Tony mentioned that as a
reason. Wanting the "World" title might have been a reason.
Tony did mention he came back to win the "World" title, but I think
it is obvious as the only two-time winner playing that he had to be
thinking about winning an unprecedented third time.
By the way, Tony specifically told Mike Bloom that he initially
turned down the invite to play because the $250K prize money wasn't
enough, especially when you convert that to US dollars, but that he
changed his mind when he realized it was for the World title.-a Again >>>> it is possible they paid the Americans a little extra to get them to
play, but so far no one seems to be copping to that.
I highly doubt the Americans got paid more. I think we discussed this
before, the prize money is likely tax free as it is in Canada. For
the time commitment required to do the show, ~$250K isn't bad. It
could also lead to other opportunities.
Yes, we talked about that here.-a The Australian law apparently says
that if you receive income from an activity you don't do as a regular
job, you don't pay tax on the earnings.-a Now we can joke about the
fact that people like Parv and Cirie have effectively made reality
show appearances their regular job, but they can probably make the
case that they don't do that regularly in Australia.
And Tony wasn't talking about the tax effects - he was talking about
the exchange rate.-a $250K Australian at the current exchange rate is
only $165K US.
$165K tax free isn't bad.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her >>>>>>>> season (they were voted out one after the other), and once she >>>>>>>> left the game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she left >>>>>>>> so early in the process that she might not have really seen all >>>>>>>> of Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season?
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a
notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon >>>>>> said she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can find >>>>>> the interviews on the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
Interesting.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her
question, but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke >>>>>>>>> at FTC. It was like she was trying to sell the jury a product >>>>>>>>> that they knew was faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd >>>>>>>> be that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the >>>>>>>> condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game. >>>>>>>> She was never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right >>>>>>>> that Sarah threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie >>>>>>>> in the event of different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance
perfectly. I also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was >>>>>>> Janine who first turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby who >>>>>>> pointed that out? It was like Janine was not expecting anyone to >>>>>>> fact check her. Huge mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills,
but her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been >>>>>>>>> tripped up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors >>>>>>>>> copying Kass's question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job >>>>>>>> thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor >>>>>>>>>> winner's club, and she becomes the only one of the three to >>>>>>>>>> retire as a winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their >>>>>>>>>> attempts to win a third time, and it is classy and cool that >>>>>>>>>> Parv knows how to retire on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one >>>>>>>>>> more shot in Survivor 50 for her first win, and then hopefully >>>>>>>>>> she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see >>>>>>>>> Parv back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as >>>>>>>>> long as there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that >>>>>>>> point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose >>>>>>>> as long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming
back for what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put >>>>>>>> this in context, that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the >>>>>>>> Tonight Show.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show
which helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing to >>>>>>>> pay her for it.-a She has really become a professional reality >>>>>>>> show performer and I think she will play until she either drops >>>>>>>> or wins, whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense is >>>>>>> that her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. One >>>>>>> of the reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other
reality shows. But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot >>>>>>> of people by openly having sex with another HG despite being in a >>>>>>> long-term relationship. I'll never forget the time she said to
him "Don't go and do something stupid and fuck up the good thing >>>>>>> you have with Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on Survivor >>>>>> way back when?-a Jared, I think?
Yes! It was the family visit in Game Changers.
Does that make Jared the first family visit member who later
appeared on a different reality show?
Good question. I've never seen anyone address this topic and remember
few family members. It's possible a family member later appeared on a
Blood vs. Water season. For example, Candice's husband. I can't
recall though if Candice made the family visit in Heroes vs.
Villains, and if she did, was John her person?
Don't know.-a I was actually wondering about Tina's daughter Katie who
appeared with her on Blood vs. Water.-a Tina was around for the family
visit in the Outback and I believe her kids came and visited her.-a I
wonder if Katie was part of that visit?-a I also wondered about Ciera
Eastin, but I'm pretty sure her mom Laura didn't last long enough in
Samoa for a family visit.
I also thought about Katie but just assumed she would have been too
young. I believe Rupert's wife night have been super close to being the first. On Pearl Islands, Rupert was voted out right before they did the loved ones visit. I'm assuming she was his person.
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
JLP and Parv at a finale watch party. Based on the comments, sounds like this was in LA.
https://x.com/Brandon_Garnsey/status/1964960799757394222
On 9/9/2025 1:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/8/2025 6:30 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 4:51 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/8/2025 8:39 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 2:47 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 11:31 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/8/2025 12:10 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:20 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/7/2025 6:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
As usual, the Aussies did a pretty good job with the
production of the finale, and I was pleased to see it must >>>>>>>>>>> have aired locally as a two- hour episode with commercials, >>>>>>>>>>> as the runtime for the video was 90 minutes. With one small >>>>>>>>>>> exception which I will note below, I think the cinematography >>>>>>>>>>> was really good. But I will admit it. Once I realized what >>>>>>>>>>> the final four immunity challenge would be, I pretty much >>>>>>>>>>> knew how the rest of the episode would go and and I had a >>>>>>>>>>> pretty good idea who the winner would be.
I agree that the finale was very well done. I had no idea how >>>>>>>>>> the F4 IC would go. That challenge was absolutely crazy. I was >>>>>>>>>> blown away by how long Luke and Parv lasted. Cirie lasting 30+ >>>>>>>>>> minutes amazed me. I thought she would be out in under five >>>>>>>>>> minutes.
It definitely looked harder than most of the final challenges >>>>>>>>> the show had done in the past (and I was glad to see they
showed clips of a few of them).-a There is always a standing and >>>>>>>>> sometimes balancing element, but having to simultaneously hold >>>>>>>>> up the weights was a good touch. The only thing really missing >>>>>>>>> was that they didn't do it right on the water's edge as they >>>>>>>>> like to do so the waves can come crashing in.
When I saw that the challenge would involve standing on >>>>>>>>>>> narrow footholds while holding onto weights, I figured this >>>>>>>>>>> would be Parv's challenge all the way.-a Given her body type >>>>>>>>>>> and balancing skills, I figured she would win the challenge >>>>>>>>>>> easily, and she did. And as I said in my comments on last >>>>>>>>>>> episode, if Parv wins F4 immunity, she probably wins the season. >>>>>>>>>>I wasn't sure how having to hold up 20% of your body weight >>>>>>>>>> would factor into the challenge. It also sounded like Luke had >>>>>>>>>> done this challenge before.
I don't recall Luke doing a challenge like this before, but he >>>>>>>>> may have. -a-aAustralian Survivor often has very physical
challenges - even before F4 - so he may have.
The only mystery was going to be whether Janine would vote >>>>>>>>>>> with Cirie and Parv to get rid of Luke or whether she would >>>>>>>>>>> honor her promise to put Luke into fire.-a And if indeed there >>>>>>>>>>> was gonna be a 2-2 tie between Luke and Cirie, who would win >>>>>>>>>>> the fire challenge? I was pretty sure Janine would honor her >>>>>>>>>>> promise to Luke and force the 2-2 tie, though the show tried >>>>>>>>>>> hard to make us think she wouldn't. I think Janine knew she >>>>>>>>>>> had no real chance to win either way, so it made sense to me >>>>>>>>>>> she would honor the promise.
The only thing I was super sure about was that Janine was not >>>>>>>>>> going to win the game. I think she kept her word to Luke
because she knew Cirie and Parv had much better stories than >>>>>>>>>> her and good convey them to the jury much better than Luke could. >>>>>>>>>>
Sp the big moment of the episode was really the fire
challenge, and I'll admit I was surprised that Cirie did as >>>>>>>>>>> well as she did. She clearly had a chance, and it was fun to >>>>>>>>>>> see the jury was oohing and ahhing every time it looked like >>>>>>>>>>> her flame might beat Luke's.-a Even though I am not a Cirie >>>>>>>>>>> fan at all, I found myself rooting for her here because a >>>>>>>>>>> Parv- Cirie match-up in F3 could actually be moderately >>>>>>>>>>> interesting. What would Cirie say in her presentation to the >>>>>>>>>>> jury and how would Parv characterize Cirie in her final >>>>>>>>>>> summation?-a I was pretty sure Parv would still win, but it >>>>>>>>>>> would have been interesting.
Cirie was lucky that Luke's structure kept collapsing and the >>>>>>>>>> wind blew his flame away from the rope. She had bad luck as >>>>>>>>>> well. It's good she was eventually successful even if it
happened a few minutes too late. I wonder if this one event >>>>>>>>>> was a driving factor in her agreeing to do S50?
Cirie in F3 would have been more interesting than Janine. Parv >>>>>>>>>> would have still won but not by 6rCo1 IMO.
I agree with that, though I'm not sure which votes Cirie would >>>>>>>>> have gotten, since was so closely aligned with Parv.-a She was >>>>>>>>> more aligned with the World alliance than Parv, so she probably >>>>>>>>> would have gotten Lisa's vote and maybe Tommi's as well.-a She >>>>>>>>> may have also gotten Luke's vote out of respect, assuming she >>>>>>>>> had beaten him in fire.-a Not sure who else she could have
gotten.-a A lot might have depended on her speech and what she >>>>>>>>> would have said to try to differentiate herself from Parv.
Cirie would have got Lisa's vote for sure and possibly Sarah's. >>>>>>>> I'm not sure about Tommi. His jury question made it sound like >>>>>>>> he was iffy on Parv, but what he said when he voted sounded like >>>>>>>> he was very impressed with her game. Luke would have voted for >>>>>>>> Parv. She earned his vote by beating him at F4 and not stealing >>>>>>>> his HII which she could have easily done. At best for Cirie, it >>>>>>>> would have been 4rCo3.
But Alas, Luke won the fire challenge and the rest of the >>>>>>>>>>> episode was for me somewhat anticlimactic. The one minor >>>>>>>>>>> issue I had with the cinematography of the episode was during >>>>>>>>>>> the fire challenge where the flames they have set up at TC >>>>>>>>>>> were directly behind Cirie and Luke as they were working on >>>>>>>>>>> their own fires. I kept seeing the background flames and >>>>>>>>>>> thought it was one of their fires, but it wasn't.-a Someone >>>>>>>>>>> should have maybe thought about that during filming and >>>>>>>>>>> positioned the cameras differently or just extinguished the >>>>>>>>>>> flames directly behind Luke and Cirie. It was still an
exciting and dramatic fire challenge, one of the best I can >>>>>>>>>>> remember.
Yes, the flames in the background were confusing, especially >>>>>>>>>> behind Cirie.
That was an exciting fire challenge. Not at all anticlimatic >>>>>>>>>> for me as it lasted too long.
After that, Parv was perfect in her summation and her answers >>>>>>>>>>> to questions, and Luke was his usual bumbling self, though he >>>>>>>>>>> did slightly better than I expected.-a The only remaining >>>>>>>>>>> question was whether Luke would get any votes, and he did end >>>>>>>>>>> up getting Sarah's vote.-a I had thought Tommi might vote him >>>>>>>>>>> as well, but he surprised me in joining everyone else in >>>>>>>>>>> voting for Parv.-a I loved the fact that game recognizes game, >>>>>>>>>>> and Kass and Kirby both gave enthusiastic votes for Parv with >>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no bitterness over how she had voted them out. >>>>>>>>>>> Very classy. I would love to see Kass play again, and wonder >>>>>>>>>>> if she will ever get an invite to play US Survivor.
I would love to see Kass play U.S. Survivor.
Do you think Sarah voted for Luke so he would get second place >>>>>>>>>> money? I wonder if it was a jury decision?
I'm not sure second-place money is actually a thing on
Australian Survivor.-a In a regular season, the winner gets >>>>>>>>> $500K Australian, but I think everyone else just gets a per >>>>>>>>> diem based on number of days they are on the island.-a In that >>>>>>>>> sense, the pay works similarly to how it does on Amazing Race, >>>>>>>>> where only the winning team gets big bucks.
Now because this is a special season and especially since it >>>>>>>>> include US players used to a progressive salary scale, maybe >>>>>>>>> they are doing it differently.-a But nothing has been said about >>>>>>>>> that except the top prize is half the usual amount, $250K
Australian.
With a relatively small top prize, I'm surprised they got Tony >>>>>>>> to play. Having won twice already, he had nothing to prove. I'm >>>>>>>> pretty sure Parv played to make a statement first and for money >>>>>>>> second. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an appearance fee given >>>>>>>> to everyone.
If there was an appearance fee, no one has mentioned that and I'm >>>>>>> pretty sure the show has never done that.-a The show has a
notoriously tight budget, which is one of the reasons they
probably cut the top prize for this season in half, and possibly >>>>>>> a factor in them getting rid of JLP.
Did CBS ever officially announce the appearance fee the players
got for S40? I assumed the prize money was cut because the season >>>>>> was so short. Hard to justify the same prize money with a lot
episodes than normal. You also need to keep in mind the network is >>>>>> owned by Paramount Global so they would have been part of the cost >>>>>> cutting during the merger negotiations.
I don't know if CBS ever officially announced the appearance fees
for Winners at War, but it was general knowledge among fans at the
time and there were several articles about it, such as in
Entertainment Weekly. I haven't seen any articles suggesting that
players got anything extra for playing Australia v. World, though
it's certainly possible.
Also, while Paramount Global does have high level ownership of the
show, I haven't seen anything to suggest they are throwing money to >>>>> Australia Ten or Endemol Shine Australia, which actually produces
the show and which is owned by the French company Banijay.
Australian Survivor is a pretty small piece of Paramount's world
pie, and I don't think it is much more than a tiny blip on their
radar.
Paramount does own the network and would want their content to
succeed and be profitable.
Yes, they own the network (TenPlay) but they do not own the company
which produces the show - Endemol Shine Australia. They also don't
own the concept or format, which are owned by Castaway Productions.
As I understand it, both Castaway and Endemol are owned by the
independent French company Banjay.-a Now clearly Paramount has a lot
of influence over the show and can pour money into it if they want,
but I just haven't seen any indication they want to do that.-a The
show has always had a reputation for being somewhat cheaply produced
(especially compared to US Survivor), and I just haven't seen any
indication of that changing.
What I said also applies to Banijay. If the show starts to look like
crap, people will stop watching, the network will cancel it, and
Banijay loses a revenue stream. As for Survivor Australia being
cheaply produced, I didn't notice any difference in quality between it
and the U.S. version. Was this season better than an average season?
No, as I've said before, the cinematography on the show is always
excellent, and this season was no different.-a The reputation for
cheapness is more for the pay tiers for the players (only a first place prize and just a per diem for everyone else), and the number of people
who work on the show, etc.-a They also don't usually do a lot of fancy editing and "stories" like we see in the US.-a It's usually just straightforward showing us everything that happens without a lot of packaging.-a I personally like the show and think the production is excellent.
I think the reason Tony played is obvious - it was the one shot >>>>>>> he might ever get at being probably the only three-time winner in >>>>>>> the show's history.
I don't recall seeing anything where Tony mentioned that as a
reason. Wanting the "World" title might have been a reason.
Tony did mention he came back to win the "World" title, but I think >>>>> it is obvious as the only two-time winner playing that he had to be >>>>> thinking about winning an unprecedented third time.
By the way, Tony specifically told Mike Bloom that he initially
turned down the invite to play because the $250K prize money wasn't >>>>> enough, especially when you convert that to US dollars, but that he >>>>> changed his mind when he realized it was for the World title.
Again it is possible they paid the Americans a little extra to get
them to play, but so far no one seems to be copping to that.
I highly doubt the Americans got paid more. I think we discussed
this before, the prize money is likely tax free as it is in Canada.
For the time commitment required to do the show, ~$250K isn't bad.
It could also lead to other opportunities.
Yes, we talked about that here.-a The Australian law apparently says
that if you receive income from an activity you don't do as a regular
job, you don't pay tax on the earnings.-a Now we can joke about the
fact that people like Parv and Cirie have effectively made reality
show appearances their regular job, but they can probably make the
case that they don't do that regularly in Australia.
And Tony wasn't talking about the tax effects - he was talking about
the exchange rate.-a $250K Australian at the current exchange rate is
only $165K US.
$165K tax free isn't bad.
Guess that's in the eye of the beholder.-a For whatever reason, Tony
wasn't apparently too excited by the amount inititally, or that's what
he said.
I assumed Sarah's vote was just because she knew Luke from her >>>>>>>>> season (they were voted out one after the other), and once she >>>>>>>>> left the game, she was probably rooting for him.-a Also, she >>>>>>>>> left so early in the process that she might not have really >>>>>>>>> seen all of Parv's moves
Could be. Is RHAP doing exit interviews, etc. for this season? >>>>>>>>
Yes, Shannon Guss has interviewed just about everyone, though a >>>>>>> notable exception is Kass who had a scheduling conflict.-a Shannon >>>>>>> said she would try to interview her at a alter date.-a You can
find the interviews on the RHAP Survivor page here:
https://robhasawebsite.com/shows/survivor-podcast/
Apparently, they are also doing pre-season interviews with S49
contestants - these are on the same page.
Interesting.
I was not expecting to see Sarah destroy Janine with her
question, but I loved it. I thought Janine was worse than Luke >>>>>>>>>> at FTC. It was like she was trying to sell the jury a product >>>>>>>>>> that they knew was faulty.
Janine was much worse than I expected, and I didn't think she'd >>>>>>>>> be that good anyway.-a I was surprised by her arrogance and the >>>>>>>>> condescending way she claimed to have played a perfect game. >>>>>>>>> She was never getting anyone's vote, and perhaps you're right >>>>>>>>> that Sarah threw Luke a vote to assure he and Janine didn't tie >>>>>>>>> in the event of different prizes for second vs. third place.
Arrogant and condescending describes her FTC performance
perfectly. I also loved Luke's reaction when he found out it was >>>>>>>> Janine who first turned on her fellow Aussies. Was that Kirby >>>>>>>> who pointed that out? It was like Janine was not expecting
anyone to fact check her. Huge mistake on her part.
It was always obvious to me that Janine had poor social skills, >>>>>>> but her complete lack of self-awareness was a big surprise.
Parv put on a clinic at FTC. Lesser players would have been >>>>>>>>>> tripped up by some of the questions. I can see future jurors >>>>>>>>>> copying Kass's question as it was simple but brilliant.
I agree that was an insightful question and Parv did a good job >>>>>>>>> thinking on her feet and giving a great answer.
Agreed.
So Parv becomes the third member of the two-time Survivor >>>>>>>>>>> winner's club, and she becomes the only one of the three to >>>>>>>>>>> retire as a winner. Both Sandra and Tony fizzled in their >>>>>>>>>>> attempts to win a third time, and it is classy and cool that >>>>>>>>>>> Parv knows how to retire on top.-a Of course Cirie gets one >>>>>>>>>>> more shot in Survivor 50 for her first win, and then
hopefully she will retire as well.
If S60 is Legends with a $5 million jackpot, I think we'll see >>>>>>>>>> Parv back along with Boston Rob. I don't see Cirie retiring as >>>>>>>>>> long as there's money to be made. Same applies for Sandra.
Assuming the show makes it S50, Jeff will be pushing 70 by that >>>>>>>>> point, so who knows if he will still be doing this.-a I suppose >>>>>>>>> as long as his health holds up, his ego will keep him coming >>>>>>>>> back for what would be 30 years of hosting the show.-a To put >>>>>>>>> this in context, that's about how long Johnny Carson hosted the >>>>>>>>> Tonight Show.
Jeff seems in great health to me. He also loves doing the show >>>>>>>> which helps.
I agree Cirie will keep playing as long as someone is willing >>>>>>>>> to pay her for it.-a She has really become a professional
reality show performer and I think she will play until she
either drops or wins, whichever comes first.
After watching one of her sons play with her on BB25, my sense >>>>>>>> is that her family can spend the money as fast as she makes it. >>>>>>>> One of the reasons she did BB25 was to help her son get on other >>>>>>>> reality shows. But he was pretty unlikable. He turned off a lot >>>>>>>> of people by openly having sex with another HG despite being in >>>>>>>> a long-term relationship. I'll never forget the time she said to >>>>>>>> him "Don't go and do something stupid and fuck up the good thing >>>>>>>> you have with Kenzie." But he did.
Is that the same son who did the family visit with her on
Survivor way back when?-a Jared, I think?
Yes! It was the family visit in Game Changers.
Does that make Jared the first family visit member who later
appeared on a different reality show?
Good question. I've never seen anyone address this topic and
remember few family members. It's possible a family member later
appeared on a Blood vs. Water season. For example, Candice's
husband. I can't recall though if Candice made the family visit in
Heroes vs. Villains, and if she did, was John her person?
Don't know.-a I was actually wondering about Tina's daughter Katie who
appeared with her on Blood vs. Water.-a Tina was around for the family
visit in the Outback and I believe her kids came and visited her.-a I
wonder if Katie was part of that visit?-a I also wondered about Ciera
Eastin, but I'm pretty sure her mom Laura didn't last long enough in
Samoa for a family visit.
I also thought about Katie but just assumed she would have been too
young. I believe Rupert's wife night have been super close to being
the first. On Pearl Islands, Rupert was voted out right before they
did the loved ones visit. I'm assuming she was his person.
Kate was 25 for B vs W which would have made her around 13 for the Outback.-a If I have time I'll go back and dig up the family visit for
the Outback or maybe it's on You Tube.
On 9/9/2025 5:06 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
JLP and Parv at a finale watch party. Based on the comments, sounds
like this was in LA.
https://x.com/Brandon_Garnsey/status/1964960799757394222
JLP was based in LA for a long time when he was an actor, and I wonder
if he will return there?-a In fact, during one of the Australian Survivor seasons that aired during Covid, he missed the live finale, which they
used to do back then, because he was stuck in LA.
On 9/9/2025 7:14 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/9/2025 5:06 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
JLP and Parv at a finale watch party. Based on the comments, sounds
like this was in LA.
https://x.com/Brandon_Garnsey/status/1964960799757394222
JLP was based in LA for a long time when he was an actor, and I wonder
if he will return there?-a In fact, during one of the Australian
Survivor seasons that aired during Covid, he missed the live finale,
which they used to do back then, because he was stuck in LA.
Did he do acting in Australia or just host Survivor? If there's opportunities in LA he might as well go for it.
I was impressed with the size of that crowd. With the amount of
engagement the season got, Paramount should try to work out a deal with Banijay to stream the series in North America.
On 9/9/2025 3:21 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/9/2025 7:14 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/9/2025 5:06 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
JLP and Parv at a finale watch party. Based on the comments, sounds
like this was in LA.
https://x.com/Brandon_Garnsey/status/1964960799757394222
JLP was based in LA for a long time when he was an actor, and I
wonder if he will return there?-a In fact, during one of the
Australian Survivor seasons that aired during Covid, he missed the
live finale, which they used to do back then, because he was stuck in
LA.
Did he do acting in Australia or just host Survivor? If there's
opportunities in LA he might as well go for it.
He did some acting in Australia, but only after several years of acting
in the USA playing mostly American characters.-a In fact, when he finally got an acting role in Australia, he said he had to hire a dialect coach
to recover his native Australian accent.
His older brother Anthony LaPaglia (whom I remember from the old US
series Murder One) also lost his native accent after working in the US
for several years.
I was impressed with the size of that crowd. With the amount of
engagement the season got, Paramount should try to work out a deal
with Banijay to stream the series in North America.
I agree with that.-a I also believe that if Australians are able to watch the series through the TenPlay website, other countries should be
allowed as well.-a The geolocking they do really doesn't make much sense given the ready availability of VPN software nowadays.
On 9/9/2025 5:13 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/9/2025 3:21 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/9/2025 7:14 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/9/2025 5:06 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
JLP and Parv at a finale watch party. Based on the comments, sounds >>>>> like this was in LA.
https://x.com/Brandon_Garnsey/status/1964960799757394222
JLP was based in LA for a long time when he was an actor, and I
wonder if he will return there?-a In fact, during one of the
Australian Survivor seasons that aired during Covid, he missed the
live finale, which they used to do back then, because he was stuck
in LA.
Did he do acting in Australia or just host Survivor? If there's
opportunities in LA he might as well go for it.
He did some acting in Australia, but only after several years of
acting in the USA playing mostly American characters.-a In fact, when
he finally got an acting role in Australia, he said he had to hire a
dialect coach to recover his native Australian accent.
His older brother Anthony LaPaglia (whom I remember from the old US
series Murder One) also lost his native accent after working in the US
for several years.
I was impressed with the size of that crowd. With the amount of
engagement the season got, Paramount should try to work out a deal
with Banijay to stream the series in North America.
I agree with that.-a I also believe that if Australians are able to
watch the series through the TenPlay website, other countries should
be allowed as well.-a The geolocking they do really doesn't make much
sense given the ready availability of VPN software nowadays.
Can you watch content for free off their site or do you need some sort
of subscription like logging in via a cable/satellite account? I totally agree about the geoblocking BS. We need worldwide licenses for content.
On 9/9/2025 7:34 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/9/2025 5:13 PM, Rick wrote:
On 9/9/2025 3:21 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/9/2025 7:14 AM, Rick wrote:
On 9/9/2025 5:06 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
On 9/7/2025 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
Spoilers ahead...
JLP and Parv at a finale watch party. Based on the comments,
sounds like this was in LA.
https://x.com/Brandon_Garnsey/status/1964960799757394222
JLP was based in LA for a long time when he was an actor, and I
wonder if he will return there?-a In fact, during one of the
Australian Survivor seasons that aired during Covid, he missed the
live finale, which they used to do back then, because he was stuck
in LA.
Did he do acting in Australia or just host Survivor? If there's
opportunities in LA he might as well go for it.
He did some acting in Australia, but only after several years of
acting in the USA playing mostly American characters.-a In fact, when
he finally got an acting role in Australia, he said he had to hire a
dialect coach to recover his native Australian accent.
His older brother Anthony LaPaglia (whom I remember from the old US
series Murder One) also lost his native accent after working in the
US for several years.
I was impressed with the size of that crowd. With the amount of
engagement the season got, Paramount should try to work out a deal
with Banijay to stream the series in North America.
I agree with that.-a I also believe that if Australians are able to
watch the series through the TenPlay website, other countries should
be allowed as well.-a The geolocking they do really doesn't make much
sense given the ready availability of VPN software nowadays.
Can you watch content for free off their site or do you need some sort
of subscription like logging in via a cable/satellite account? I
totally agree about the geoblocking BS. We need worldwide licenses for
content.
You can watch for free, just as you can watch US Survivor for free on
the CBS website.-a But you need to have an Australian based ip address (hence the VPN), and you need to set up a username and password and
enter an Australian postal code, which you can easily Google.