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Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode. Once again, it was
pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much suspense.
Shonee really only had one chance which was to win immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close. Once Luke won immunity, the rest of
the episode was really just filler material.

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would play
hers on herself. I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like that he did
a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather than the idol,
which allowed him to play his little footsie game with Parv of you go
first on the idol, no you go first. IrCOm not sure what they were doing
there since the votes had already been cast, and it was pretty obvious
they would both play the idols on themselves. That meant Shonee and
Cirie would both be vulnerable. Sure, they tried to create some
suspense to make you think Cirie might get voted out, but that was never
going to happen. Shonee is younger and generally stronger in challenges
than Cirie, and frankly I think Luke and Janine believed Shonee would be harder to beat in F3.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie. I did not
watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four challenge will be
but itrCOs usually something involving endurance. Luke is clearly the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think he has to be favored. If
he wins it will be his fourth immunity win, which is mega impressive.
More importantly, he is protected into final three at that point which
mean he can almost dictate the F4 vote. If he is smart, he and Janene
will vote for Parv and Parv and Cirie will likely vote Janine. That
would put Parv and Janine into a fire challenge and I honestly donrCOt
know who would win that. Probably Parv. That would create a
Parv-Cirie-Luke final, and I would guess Parv would win but IrCOm not
sure. Luke's four immunity wins at that point plus his still
hard-to-believe move in getting Parv to destroy her vote steal advantage
make a pretty good story.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him into fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke loses the F4
immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, he wanted Janene
to promise that she would vote with him and not join the two Americans
to vote him out.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4
immunity. But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely have
to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to vote Parv
out which would finally be a big move by Cirie. That would actually
also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I think IrCOd have to favor Luke over Cirie. I donrCOt really see a world where Janine can win and I
give Cirie only a very small chance and only if she orchestrates voting
Parv out.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she is
coming after JLP's job. This was obviously long before there was any
talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee had any inside knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still thought it was pretty funny. Also cool (and typical) of the show to leave the line in.
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On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it was pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much suspense.
Shonee really only had one chance which was to win immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once Luke won immunity, the rest of the episode was really just filler material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so sketchy I
was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would play
hers on herself.-a I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like that he did
a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather than the idol,
which allowed him to play his little footsie game with Parv of you go
first on the idol, no you go first.-a IrCOm not sure what they were doing there since the votes had already been cast, and it was pretty obvious
they would both play the idols on themselves.-a That meant Shonee and
Cirie would both be vulnerable.-a Sure, they tried to create some
suspense to make you think Cirie might get voted out, but that was never going to happen.-a Shonee is younger and generally stronger in challenges than Cirie, and frankly I think Luke and Janine believed Shonee would be harder to beat in F3.

Keeping Shonee would have given Cirie and Parv better odds of beating
Luke at F4.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie.-a I did not watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four challenge will be but itrCOs usually something involving endurance.-a Luke is clearly the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think he has to be favored.-a If
he wins it will be his fourth immunity win, which is mega impressive.
More importantly, he is protected into final three at that point which
mean he can almost dictate the F4 vote.-a If he is smart, he and Janene
will vote for Parv and Parv and Cirie will likely vote Janine.-a That
would put Parv and Janine into a fire challenge and I honestly donrCOt
know who would win that.-a Probably Parv.-a That would create a Parv- Cirie-Luke final, and I would guess Parv would win but IrCOm not sure. Luke's four immunity wins at that point plus his still hard-to-believe
move in getting Parv to destroy her vote steal advantage make a pretty
good story.

The preview did show the F4 challenge. It's endurance and something I
don't recall ever seeing before. Luke's fighting off the pain which
probably means he wins. A streak of four straight IC wins would look
very impressive at FTC.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him into fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke loses the F4 immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, he wanted Janene
to promise that she would vote with him and not join the two Americans
to vote him out.

I was confused by that exchange.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4 immunity.-a But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely have
to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to vote Parv
out which would finally be a big move by Cirie.-a That would actually
also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I think IrCOd have to favor Luke over Cirie.-a I donrCOt really see a world where Janine can win and I give Cirie only a very small chance and only if she orchestrates voting
Parv out.

If Parv wins F4 immunity she should have the game in the bag. It would
be a huge let down if Luke beat Cirie at the end. His gameplay over the
entire season has not been as good as hers. Cirie's been consistent throughout.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she is
coming after JLP's job.-a This was obviously long before there was any
talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee had any inside knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still thought it was pretty funny.-a Also cool (and typical) of the show to leave the line in.

That line was probably cut initially and then added in after the fact.
The Network and showrunner are sticking it to Jonathan.

I was kind of sad to see Shonee go. She and Kirby were easily my two
favorite Aussies.
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Brian
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On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it was
pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much suspense.
Shonee really only had one chance which was to win immunity, which she
didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once Luke won immunity, the rest
of the episode was really just filler material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so sketchy I
was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give his
idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would play
hers on herself.-a I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like that he
did a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather than the
idol, which allowed him to play his little footsie game with Parv of
you go first on the idol, no you go first.-a IrCOm not sure what they
were doing there since the votes had already been cast, and it was
pretty obvious they would both play the idols on themselves.-a That
meant Shonee and Cirie would both be vulnerable.-a Sure, they tried to
create some suspense to make you think Cirie might get voted out, but
that was never going to happen.-a Shonee is younger and generally
stronger in challenges than Cirie, and frankly I think Luke and Janine
believed Shonee would be harder to beat in F3.

Keeping Shonee would have given Cirie and Parv better odds of beating
Luke at F4.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie.-a I did not
watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four challenge will
be but itrCOs usually something involving endurance.-a Luke is clearly
the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think he has to be
favored.-a If he wins it will be his fourth immunity win, which is mega
impressive. More importantly, he is protected into final three at that
point which mean he can almost dictate the F4 vote.-a If he is smart,
he and Janene will vote for Parv and Parv and Cirie will likely vote
Janine.-a That would put Parv and Janine into a fire challenge and I
honestly donrCOt know who would win that.-a Probably Parv.-a That would
create a Parv- Cirie-Luke final, and I would guess Parv would win but
IrCOm not sure. Luke's four immunity wins at that point plus his still
hard-to-believe move in getting Parv to destroy her vote steal
advantage make a pretty good story.

The preview did show the F4 challenge. It's endurance and something I
don't recall ever seeing before. Luke's fighting off the pain which
probably means he wins. A streak of four straight IC wins would look
very impressive at FTC.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him into >> fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke loses the F4
immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, he wanted Janene
to promise that she would vote with him and not join the two Americans
to vote him out.

I was confused by that exchange.

Although we are accustomed to seeing 2-2 tie votes at final four with a
fire tie-breaker, Australian Survivor has had the occasional 3-1 or even
2-1-1 votes. Luke was worried about being on the "1" side of one of
those scenarios.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4
immunity.-a But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely
have to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to
vote Parv out which would finally be a big move by Cirie.-a That would
actually also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I think IrCOd
have to favor Luke over Cirie.-a I donrCOt really see a world where
Janine can win and I give Cirie only a very small chance and only if
she orchestrates voting Parv out.

If Parv wins F4 immunity she should have the game in the bag. It would
be a huge let down if Luke beat Cirie at the end. His gameplay over the entire season has not been as good as hers. Cirie's been consistent throughout.

She's been consistently unspectacular. I just think Cirie has been too
much in Parv's shadow and has not distinguished herself from her at all.
Guess we'll find out next week.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she is
coming after JLP's job.-a This was obviously long before there was any
talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee had any inside
knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still thought it was
pretty funny.-a Also cool (and typical) of the show to leave the line in.

That line was probably cut initially and then added in after the fact.
The Network and showrunner are sticking it to Jonathan.

I doubt it was ever cut. It's exactly the sort of thing Shonee would
say, and I think the show would have left the line in under any
circumstance.

I was kind of sad to see Shonee go. She and Kirby were easily my two favorite Aussies.

Agree on both counts.
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On 9/3/2025 8:35 AM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it was
pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much suspense.
Shonee really only had one chance which was to win immunity, which
she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once Luke won immunity, the >>> rest of the episode was really just filler material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so sketchy
I was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give his
idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

When Janine asked him point blank if he had an idol and he lied to her,
I thought he was going to save it for FTC, pull it out and claim he was
in such control of his game that he didn't need to use it. Also,
wouldn't having Janine on the jury be a lot better for him than sitting
beside her at the end?

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would play
hers on herself.-a I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like that he
did a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather than the
idol, which allowed him to play his little footsie game with Parv of
you go first on the idol, no you go first.-a IrCOm not sure what they
were doing there since the votes had already been cast, and it was
pretty obvious they would both play the idols on themselves.-a That
meant Shonee and Cirie would both be vulnerable.-a Sure, they tried to
create some suspense to make you think Cirie might get voted out, but
that was never going to happen.-a Shonee is younger and generally
stronger in challenges than Cirie, and frankly I think Luke and
Janine believed Shonee would be harder to beat in F3.

Keeping Shonee would have given Cirie and Parv better odds of beating
Luke at F4.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie.-a I did
not watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four challenge
will be but itrCOs usually something involving endurance.-a Luke is
clearly the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think he has to
be favored.-a If he wins it will be his fourth immunity win, which is
mega impressive. More importantly, he is protected into final three
at that point which mean he can almost dictate the F4 vote.-a If he is
smart, he and Janene will vote for Parv and Parv and Cirie will
likely vote Janine.-a That would put Parv and Janine into a fire
challenge and I honestly donrCOt know who would win that.-a Probably
Parv.-a That would create a Parv- Cirie-Luke final, and I would guess
Parv would win but IrCOm not sure. Luke's four immunity wins at that
point plus his still hard-to-believe move in getting Parv to destroy
her vote steal advantage make a pretty good story.

The preview did show the F4 challenge. It's endurance and something I
don't recall ever seeing before. Luke's fighting off the pain which
probably means he wins. A streak of four straight IC wins would look
very impressive at FTC.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him into >>> fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke loses the F4
immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, he wanted
Janene to promise that she would vote with him and not join the two
Americans to vote him out.

I was confused by that exchange.

Although we are accustomed to seeing 2-2 tie votes at final four with a
fire tie-breaker, Australian Survivor has had the occasional 3-1 or even 2-1-1 votes.-a Luke was worried about being on the "1" side of one of
those scenarios.

A 2rCo1rCo1 vote would be the biggest blindside this season.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4
immunity.-a But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely
have to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to
vote Parv out which would finally be a big move by Cirie.-a That would
actually also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I think IrCOd
have to favor Luke over Cirie.-a I donrCOt really see a world where
Janine can win and I give Cirie only a very small chance and only if
she orchestrates voting Parv out.

If Parv wins F4 immunity she should have the game in the bag. It would
be a huge let down if Luke beat Cirie at the end. His gameplay over
the entire season has not been as good as hers. Cirie's been
consistent throughout.

She's been consistently unspectacular.-a I just think Cirie has been too much in Parv's shadow and has not distinguished herself from her at all.
-aGuess we'll find out next week.

Cirie was consistently unspectacular on BB25. On this season, I think
she's stood out more than anyone besides Parv.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she is
coming after JLP's job.-a This was obviously long before there was any
talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee had any
inside knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still thought it
was pretty funny.-a Also cool (and typical) of the show to leave the
line in.

That line was probably cut initially and then added in after the fact.
The Network and showrunner are sticking it to Jonathan.

I doubt it was ever cut.-a It's exactly the sort of thing Shonee would
say, and I think the show would have left the line in under any circumstance.

There's no doubt she said it.

I was kind of sad to see Shonee go. She and Kirby were easily my two
favorite Aussies.

Agree on both counts.

When these guys do FTC do they let all the jury members add in their two
cents when a question is asked? I sure hope so.
--
Brian
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On 9/3/2025 6:01 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 8:35 AM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it
was pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much
suspense. Shonee really only had one chance which was to win
immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once Luke >>>> won immunity, the rest of the episode was really just filler material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so
sketchy I was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give his
idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

When Janine asked him point blank if he had an idol and he lied to her,
I thought he was going to save it for FTC, pull it out and claim he was
in such control of his game that he didn't need to use it. Also,
wouldn't having Janine on the jury be a lot better for him than sitting beside her at the end?

Maybe. I think in his mind it was a choice between Janine and Shonee,
and he made the calculation that Shonee would be harder to beat in F3
due to her popularity with everyone. I also think he probably thinks
he can get Shonee's vote, not just because she is a fellow Australian
but because they have known each other for several years. But I agree Janine's vote is more guaranteed.

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would
play hers on herself.-a I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like
that he did a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather
than the idol, which allowed him to play his little footsie game
with Parv of you go first on the idol, no you go first.-a IrCOm not
sure what they were doing there since the votes had already been
cast, and it was pretty obvious they would both play the idols on
themselves.-a That meant Shonee and Cirie would both be vulnerable.
Sure, they tried to create some suspense to make you think Cirie
might get voted out, but that was never going to happen.-a Shonee is
younger and generally stronger in challenges than Cirie, and frankly
I think Luke and Janine believed Shonee would be harder to beat in F3.

Keeping Shonee would have given Cirie and Parv better odds of beating
Luke at F4.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie.-a I did
not watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four challenge >>>> will be but itrCOs usually something involving endurance.-a Luke is
clearly the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think he has to
be favored.-a If he wins it will be his fourth immunity win, which is >>>> mega impressive. More importantly, he is protected into final three
at that point which mean he can almost dictate the F4 vote.-a If he
is smart, he and Janene will vote for Parv and Parv and Cirie will
likely vote Janine.-a That would put Parv and Janine into a fire
challenge and I honestly donrCOt know who would win that.-a Probably
Parv.-a That would create a Parv- Cirie-Luke final, and I would guess >>>> Parv would win but IrCOm not sure. Luke's four immunity wins at that
point plus his still hard-to-believe move in getting Parv to destroy
her vote steal advantage make a pretty good story.

The preview did show the F4 challenge. It's endurance and something I
don't recall ever seeing before. Luke's fighting off the pain which
probably means he wins. A streak of four straight IC wins would look
very impressive at FTC.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him
into fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke loses
the F4 immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, he
wanted Janene to promise that she would vote with him and not join
the two Americans to vote him out.

I was confused by that exchange.

Although we are accustomed to seeing 2-2 tie votes at final four with
a fire tie-breaker, Australian Survivor has had the occasional 3-1 or
even 2-1-1 votes.-a Luke was worried about being on the "1" side of one
of those scenarios.

A 2rCo1rCo1 vote would be the biggest blindside this season.

I would love to see that. But given how close the two pairs are, it
still seems more likely there will be a 2-2 tie.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4
immunity.-a But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely
have to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to
vote Parv out which would finally be a big move by Cirie.-a That
would actually also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I think >>>> IrCOd have to favor Luke over Cirie.-a I donrCOt really see a world where >>>> Janine can win and I give Cirie only a very small chance and only if
she orchestrates voting Parv out.

If Parv wins F4 immunity she should have the game in the bag. It
would be a huge let down if Luke beat Cirie at the end. His gameplay
over the entire season has not been as good as hers. Cirie's been
consistent throughout.

She's been consistently unspectacular.-a I just think Cirie has been
too much in Parv's shadow and has not distinguished herself from her
at all. -a-aGuess we'll find out next week.

Cirie was consistently unspectacular on BB25. On this season, I think
she's stood out more than anyone besides Parv.

She has stood out from a standpoint of getting camera confessional time,
but I haven't seen her do much in her interactions with other players or
doing challenges, etc.

How did she do on Traitors, which I believe she won? I saw the first
episode but didn't care enough about the show to watch beyond that.
That seems like a good show for her.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she
is coming after JLP's job.-a This was obviously long before there was >>>> any talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee had any
inside knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still thought it
was pretty funny.-a Also cool (and typical) of the show to leave the
line in.

That line was probably cut initially and then added in after the
fact. The Network and showrunner are sticking it to Jonathan.

I doubt it was ever cut.-a It's exactly the sort of thing Shonee would
say, and I think the show would have left the line in under any
circumstance.

There's no doubt she said it.

I was kind of sad to see Shonee go. She and Kirby were easily my two
favorite Aussies.

Agree on both counts.

When these guys do FTC do they let all the jury members add in their two cents when a question is asked? I sure hope so.

Sure, as long as they have something to say.
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On 9/3/2025 6:38 PM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:01 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 8:35 AM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it
was pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much
suspense. Shonee really only had one chance which was to win
immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once Luke >>>>> won immunity, the rest of the episode was really just filler material. >>>>

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so
sketchy I was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give his
idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

When Janine asked him point blank if he had an idol and he lied to
her, I thought he was going to save it for FTC, pull it out and claim
he was in such control of his game that he didn't need to use it.
Also, wouldn't having Janine on the jury be a lot better for him than
sitting beside her at the end?

Maybe.-a I think in his mind it was a choice between Janine and Shonee,
and he made the calculation that Shonee would be harder to beat in F3
due to her popularity with everyone.-a-a I also think he probably thinks
he can get Shonee's vote, not just because she is a fellow Australian
but because they have known each other for several years.-a-a But I agree Janine's vote is more guaranteed.

Do these guys do a favorite player vote like U.S. Survivor did with the
Sprint vote a million years ago or BB still does? I think it would be interesting to see who Aussie and New Zealander viewers would vote for. Probably not David after finding out he won $5.8 million and took
Jonathan's job.

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would
play hers on herself.-a I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like >>>>> that he did a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather
than the idol, which allowed him to play his little footsie game
with Parv of you go first on the idol, no you go first.-a IrCOm not >>>>> sure what they were doing there since the votes had already been
cast, and it was pretty obvious they would both play the idols on
themselves.-a That meant Shonee and Cirie would both be vulnerable. >>>>> Sure, they tried to create some suspense to make you think Cirie
might get voted out, but that was never going to happen.-a Shonee is >>>>> younger and generally stronger in challenges than Cirie, and
frankly I think Luke and Janine believed Shonee would be harder to
beat in F3.

Keeping Shonee would have given Cirie and Parv better odds of
beating Luke at F4.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie.-a I did >>>>> not watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four
challenge will be but itrCOs usually something involving endurance. >>>>> Luke is clearly the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think
he has to be favored.-a If he wins it will be his fourth immunity
win, which is mega impressive. More importantly, he is protected
into final three at that point which mean he can almost dictate the >>>>> F4 vote.-a If he is smart, he and Janene will vote for Parv and Parv >>>>> and Cirie will likely vote Janine.-a That would put Parv and Janine >>>>> into a fire challenge and I honestly donrCOt know who would win
that.-a Probably Parv.-a That would create a Parv- Cirie-Luke final, >>>>> and I would guess Parv would win but IrCOm not sure. Luke's four
immunity wins at that point plus his still hard-to-believe move in
getting Parv to destroy her vote steal advantage make a pretty good >>>>> story.

The preview did show the F4 challenge. It's endurance and something
I don't recall ever seeing before. Luke's fighting off the pain
which probably means he wins. A streak of four straight IC wins
would look very impressive at FTC.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him >>>>> into fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke loses >>>>> the F4 immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, he
wanted Janene to promise that she would vote with him and not join
the two Americans to vote him out.

I was confused by that exchange.

Although we are accustomed to seeing 2-2 tie votes at final four with
a fire tie-breaker, Australian Survivor has had the occasional 3-1 or
even 2-1-1 votes.-a Luke was worried about being on the "1" side of
one of those scenarios.

A 2rCo1rCo1 vote would be the biggest blindside this season.

I would love to see that.-a But given how close the two pairs are, it
still seems more likely there will be a 2-2 tie.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4
immunity.-a But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely >>>>> have to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to
vote Parv out which would finally be a big move by Cirie.-a That
would actually also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I
think IrCOd have to favor Luke over Cirie.-a I donrCOt really see a >>>>> world where Janine can win and I give Cirie only a very small
chance and only if she orchestrates voting Parv out.

If Parv wins F4 immunity she should have the game in the bag. It
would be a huge let down if Luke beat Cirie at the end. His gameplay
over the entire season has not been as good as hers. Cirie's been
consistent throughout.

She's been consistently unspectacular.-a I just think Cirie has been
too much in Parv's shadow and has not distinguished herself from her
at all. -a-aGuess we'll find out next week.

Cirie was consistently unspectacular on BB25. On this season, I think
she's stood out more than anyone besides Parv.

She has stood out from a standpoint of getting camera confessional time,
but I haven't seen her do much in her interactions with other players or doing challenges, etc.

Cirie did pretty good in some of the challenges. Much better than I
thought she would.

How did she do on Traitors, which I believe she won?-a I saw the first episode but didn't care enough about the show to watch beyond that. That seems like a good show for her.

I've never watched The Traitors but I heard Cirie was impressive and won something like $250K. It's easy quick money as an entire season is shot
in about two weeks. Quite a few top Survivor and BB players have now
done that show. How hard is DONDI in terms of time commitment and
conditions? That sounds like the show to do in terms of possibly winning
a lot of money.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she
is coming after JLP's job.-a This was obviously long before there
was any talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee had >>>>> any inside knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still
thought it was pretty funny.-a Also cool (and typical) of the show
to leave the line in.

That line was probably cut initially and then added in after the
fact. The Network and showrunner are sticking it to Jonathan.

I doubt it was ever cut.-a It's exactly the sort of thing Shonee would
say, and I think the show would have left the line in under any
circumstance.

There's no doubt she said it.

I was kind of sad to see Shonee go. She and Kirby were easily my two
favorite Aussies.

Agree on both counts.

When these guys do FTC do they let all the jury members add in their
two cents when a question is asked? I sure hope so.

Sure, as long as they have something to say.

Sounds good.
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On 9/3/2025 10:47 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:38 PM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:01 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 8:35 AM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it >>>>>> was pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much
suspense. Shonee really only had one chance which was to win
immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once Luke >>>>>> won immunity, the rest of the episode was really just filler
material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so
sketchy I was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give
his idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

When Janine asked him point blank if he had an idol and he lied to
her, I thought he was going to save it for FTC, pull it out and claim
he was in such control of his game that he didn't need to use it.
Also, wouldn't having Janine on the jury be a lot better for him than
sitting beside her at the end?

Maybe.-a I think in his mind it was a choice between Janine and Shonee,
and he made the calculation that Shonee would be harder to beat in F3
due to her popularity with everyone.-a-a I also think he probably thinks
he can get Shonee's vote, not just because she is a fellow Australian
but because they have known each other for several years.-a-a But I
agree Janine's vote is more guaranteed.

Do these guys do a favorite player vote like U.S. Survivor did with the Sprint vote a million years ago or BB still does? I think it would be interesting to see who Aussie and New Zealander viewers would vote for. Probably not David after finding out he won $5.8 million and took
Jonathan's job.

No, I don't think there is an official fan favorite contest like the old Sprint award we had here. There have been unofficial polls and surveys,
and I know Shonee, George and Luke generally do well among repeat
players. David also used to score well, but I don't think he would so
much nowadays.

I figured Luke would give his idol to Janine and that Parv would
play hers on herself.-a I didnrCOt expect but actually kind of like >>>>>> that he did a switch and gave Janine the immunity necklace rather >>>>>> than the idol, which allowed him to play his little footsie game
with Parv of you go first on the idol, no you go first.-a IrCOm not >>>>>> sure what they were doing there since the votes had already been
cast, and it was pretty obvious they would both play the idols on >>>>>> themselves.-a That meant Shonee and Cirie would both be vulnerable. >>>>>> Sure, they tried to create some suspense to make you think Cirie
might get voted out, but that was never going to happen.-a Shonee >>>>>> is younger and generally stronger in challenges than Cirie, and
frankly I think Luke and Janine believed Shonee would be harder to >>>>>> beat in F3.

Keeping Shonee would have given Cirie and Parv better odds of
beating Luke at F4.

So it sets up a final four of Luke, Janine, Parv and Cirie.-a I did >>>>>> not watch the preview, so I donrCOt know what the final four
challenge will be but itrCOs usually something involving endurance. >>>>>> Luke is clearly the youngest and strongest of the four, so I think >>>>>> he has to be favored.-a If he wins it will be his fourth immunity >>>>>> win, which is mega impressive. More importantly, he is protected
into final three at that point which mean he can almost dictate
the F4 vote.-a If he is smart, he and Janene will vote for Parv and >>>>>> Parv and Cirie will likely vote Janine.-a That would put Parv and >>>>>> Janine into a fire challenge and I honestly donrCOt know who would >>>>>> win that.-a Probably Parv.-a That would create a Parv- Cirie-Luke >>>>>> final, and I would guess Parv would win but IrCOm not sure. Luke's >>>>>> four immunity wins at that point plus his still hard-to-believe
move in getting Parv to destroy her vote steal advantage make a
pretty good story.

The preview did show the F4 challenge. It's endurance and something >>>>> I don't recall ever seeing before. Luke's fighting off the pain
which probably means he wins. A streak of four straight IC wins
would look very impressive at FTC.

Now Luke did say to Janine he wanted her to promise to rCLputrCY him >>>>>> into fire, and I guess what he meant by that was that if Luke
loses the F4 immunity and especially if Janine wins that immunity, >>>>>> he wanted Janene to promise that she would vote with him and not
join the two Americans to vote him out.

I was confused by that exchange.

Although we are accustomed to seeing 2-2 tie votes at final four
with a fire tie-breaker, Australian Survivor has had the occasional
3-1 or even 2-1-1 votes.-a Luke was worried about being on the "1"
side of one of those scenarios.

A 2rCo1rCo1 vote would be the biggest blindside this season.

I would love to see that.-a But given how close the two pairs are, it
still seems more likely there will be a 2-2 tie.

At this point I think Parv is the likely winner if she wins the F4 >>>>>> immunity.-a But if she loses that immunity, I think she will likely >>>>>> have to go to fire unless Cirie decides to join Luke and Janine to >>>>>> vote Parv out which would finally be a big move by Cirie.-a That
would actually also be a cool move. If Parv doesnrCOt make F3, I
think IrCOd have to favor Luke over Cirie.-a I donrCOt really see a >>>>>> world where Janine can win and I give Cirie only a very small
chance and only if she orchestrates voting Parv out.

If Parv wins F4 immunity she should have the game in the bag. It
would be a huge let down if Luke beat Cirie at the end. His
gameplay over the entire season has not been as good as hers.
Cirie's been consistent throughout.

She's been consistently unspectacular.-a I just think Cirie has been
too much in Parv's shadow and has not distinguished herself from her
at all. -a-aGuess we'll find out next week.

Cirie was consistently unspectacular on BB25. On this season, I think
she's stood out more than anyone besides Parv.

She has stood out from a standpoint of getting camera confessional
time, but I haven't seen her do much in her interactions with other
players or doing challenges, etc.

Cirie did pretty good in some of the challenges. Much better than I
thought she would.

How did she do on Traitors, which I believe she won?-a I saw the first
episode but didn't care enough about the show to watch beyond that.
That seems like a good show for her.

I've never watched The Traitors but I heard Cirie was impressive and won something like $250K. It's easy quick money as an entire season is shot
in about two weeks. Quite a few top Survivor and BB players have now
done that show. How hard is DONDI in terms of time commitment and conditions? That sounds like the show to do in terms of possibly winning
a lot of money.

Most ironic line of the episode was Shonee's last comment that she >>>>>> is coming after JLP's job.-a This was obviously long before there >>>>>> was any talk about JLP being replaced, and I don't think Shonee
had any inside knowledge the job would be availavble, but I still >>>>>> thought it was pretty funny.-a Also cool (and typical) of the show >>>>>> to leave the line in.

That line was probably cut initially and then added in after the
fact. The Network and showrunner are sticking it to Jonathan.

I doubt it was ever cut.-a It's exactly the sort of thing Shonee
would say, and I think the show would have left the line in under
any circumstance.

There's no doubt she said it.

I was kind of sad to see Shonee go. She and Kirby were easily my
two favorite Aussies.

Agree on both counts.

When these guys do FTC do they let all the jury members add in their
two cents when a question is asked? I sure hope so.

Sure, as long as they have something to say.

Sounds good.

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On 9/3/2025 10:17 PM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 10:47 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:38 PM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:01 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 8:35 AM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, it >>>>>>> was pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much
suspense. Shonee really only had one chance which was to win
immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once >>>>>>> Luke won immunity, the rest of the episode was really just filler >>>>>>> material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so
sketchy I was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give
his idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

When Janine asked him point blank if he had an idol and he lied to
her, I thought he was going to save it for FTC, pull it out and
claim he was in such control of his game that he didn't need to use
it. Also, wouldn't having Janine on the jury be a lot better for him
than sitting beside her at the end?

Maybe.-a I think in his mind it was a choice between Janine and
Shonee, and he made the calculation that Shonee would be harder to
beat in F3 due to her popularity with everyone.-a-a I also think he
probably thinks he can get Shonee's vote, not just because she is a
fellow Australian but because they have known each other for several
years.-a-a But I agree Janine's vote is more guaranteed.

Do these guys do a favorite player vote like U.S. Survivor did with
the Sprint vote a million years ago or BB still does? I think it would
be interesting to see who Aussie and New Zealander viewers would vote
for. Probably not David after finding out he won $5.8 million and took
Jonathan's job.

No, I don't think there is an official fan favorite contest like the old Sprint award we had here.-a There have been unofficial polls and surveys, and I know Shonee, George and Luke generally do well among repeat
players.-a David also used to score well, but I don't think he would so
much nowadays.

George? That surprises me.
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On 9/4/2025 2:39 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 10:17 PM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 10:47 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:38 PM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 6:01 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/3/2025 8:35 AM, Rick wrote:

On 9/3/2025 3:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

On 9/2/2025 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:

Spoilers ahead...

In a way, this was a repeat of the prior episode.-a Once again, >>>>>>>> it was pretty obvious who was going to go and there wasnrCOt much >>>>>>>> suspense. Shonee really only had one chance which was to win
immunity, which she didnrCOt do, although she came close.-a Once >>>>>>>> Luke won immunity, the rest of the episode was really just
filler material.

I didn't think it was obvious who would go. With Luke being so
sketchy I was surprised Parv didn't agree to blindside Janine.

Once Luke won the IC, I just thought it was obvious he would give >>>>>> his idol to Janine who he knew would not be a threat at F3.

When Janine asked him point blank if he had an idol and he lied to
her, I thought he was going to save it for FTC, pull it out and
claim he was in such control of his game that he didn't need to use >>>>> it. Also, wouldn't having Janine on the jury be a lot better for
him than sitting beside her at the end?

Maybe.-a I think in his mind it was a choice between Janine and
Shonee, and he made the calculation that Shonee would be harder to
beat in F3 due to her popularity with everyone.-a-a I also think he
probably thinks he can get Shonee's vote, not just because she is a
fellow Australian but because they have known each other for several
years.-a-a But I agree Janine's vote is more guaranteed.

Do these guys do a favorite player vote like U.S. Survivor did with
the Sprint vote a million years ago or BB still does? I think it
would be interesting to see who Aussie and New Zealander viewers
would vote for. Probably not David after finding out he won $5.8
million and took Jonathan's job.

No, I don't think there is an official fan favorite contest like the
old Sprint award we had here.-a There have been unofficial polls and
surveys, and I know Shonee, George and Luke generally do well among
repeat players.-a David also used to score well, but I don't think he
would so much nowadays.

George? That surprises me.

Yeah, I know. People love George. They also hate him. He's very much
like Richard Hatch in a way, but a lot of people weirdly seem to like him.
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