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Yamn 4.05 is unreliable, unstable, and doesn't deliver.

Relays ?????? Archiade, Sec3...and chain dirge Yam in pairs doesn't work.

Which pair works stably?

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 20:27:09 +0200, ignore <ignore@ignore.invalid> wrote: >Message-ID: <107nu5s$3ctg$1@solani.org>

Injection-Info: ="abuse@news.solani.org"

Yamn 4.05 is unreliable, unstable, and doesn't deliver.
Relays ?????? Archiade, Sec3...and chain dirge Yam in pairs doesn't work.

haven't recently tested this, but "yamnclient.exe" seems to run fine in windows 11,
quoting "yamn an anonymous remailer program" <20250803.103224.764c398d@mixmin.net>:

There are three ways to use YAMN under Windows: on the
command line; by using Christian Danner's Omnimix program; ><https://www.danner-net.de/om.htm> or by using Inwtx's
Yamn Remailer Client created by Inwtx Admin ><https://dotfiles.tnetconsulting.net/files/YAMN_Remailer_Client_v0.4.05_%5Bbuild_1322%5D.zip>.

(using Tor Browser 14.5.5) https://dotfiles.tnetconsulting.net/files/YAMN_Remailer_Client_v0.4.05_[build_1322].zip
(YAMN_Remailer_Client_v0.4.05_[build_1322].zip / 27.4 MB), extracted . . . (\yamn405 / 44.3 MB / 53 Files, 8 Folders), "YAMNclient.exe" (2020-09-26, 2.59 MB),
click "?" for help / text:

YAMNclient is a client that is used to send email or news group messages with the
YAMN remailer system.
See: https://github.com/crooks/yamn
Sent button: This will bring up a window containing the message you have sent.
There is a 'Scrub' button that will scrub the 'saved message' file therein. >Clear button: Clear the main window.
News and Mail buttons: There are templets available to use by clicking on these
buttons, or by clicking on the Templets dropdown box. Right click on these >buttons to edit the templets therein.
Use TOR check box: Check to send message through Tor. Tor must be started and
running externally. Right click on the checkbox or click on the small button to
bring up a panel to enter a Tor port number (AdvOR = 9050; TBB = 9150). AdvOR >is a good Tor client: https://sourceforge.net/projects/advtor/
outfile check box: The message will not be mailed, but will be written to the >pool folder only. When creating a message to the outfile, the chain copies >should =
1. [Ex: Chain: *,*,*;copies=1;]. Right click on top button bar to make this >option visible/invisible.
Send dummy msgs upon Send menu item: Choose to send or not send dummy messages
when sending a message. Right click on top button bar to check or
uncheck this option.
Margin: The message in the main window will be margined to this maximum length
before sending.
R button: This will bring up a window containing the 'Re Format' pairs that are
used to reformat the messages.
W button: This will bring up a window containing words that you have chosen to
flag. If one of these words is found upon clicking the Send button, YAMNclient
will not send the message without further permission. This option is a safeguard
against accidentally sending names, etc that could expose you.
Save post button: When the folder is in the closed position, sent messages will
not be saved. Nothing will be in the 'Sent' button window.
Wrap window button: Word wrap window. When a message is sent, the main window
will revert to no word wrap. The window should revert back to the pre-send >state.
Relay dropdown box: You must choose a relay to send a yamn message. A relay is
a remailer server that will accept and send you message on to an entry
yamn remailer. Right click on the dropdown box to edit the relays therein. >Send button: Click to send a remailer message.
Close button: Click to close YAMNclient. If there are any messages in the >'saved message' file, you will be given a choice to scrub them.
cfg button: This will bring up a window containing the yamn config file. This
file should not be changed unless you know what you are doing. YAMNclient >automatically changes the 'Relay' and 'Outfile' parameters in this file.
Re: Format menu item: To reply to a message, copy the message along with th >headers from your news reader or mail client into the clip board. Then click the
News or Mail button to bring in basic headers. Right click on the main window >and click Re: Format. YAMNclient will attempt to format the copied message for
resending. Open the /system/ClipboardConversion.txt file for additional >conversion instructions.
Special message considerations: If your language uses special characters, you >may need to add these headers to to templet headers provided with YAMNclient: >Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

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see also:
https://www.sec3.net/yamnhelp/install_yamn_client_windows10.html

...
https://www.sec3.net/yamnhelp/install_yamn_client_windows10.html#inwtx

because qsl cannot use yamn remailers, having a stand-alone yamn client
might be worth testing . . . i was able to get qsl to work with omnimix
and tor running in the background, so this yamn client could work using
similar options, it's fun to experiment with anonymous remailer clients

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On 8/15/25 14:27, ignore wrote:

-aYamn 4.05 is unreliable, unstable, and doesn't deliver.

Relays ?????? Archiade, Sec3...and chain dirge Yam in pairs doesn't work.

Which pair works stably?

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

That Yamn client has not been maintained. for some time. Years.

You probably can get it to work, but you will have to update
some of its configuration files. Specifically

yamn.cfg (update the pinger address, removing the defunct cloaked.pw) /System/Relays.txt
/System/NewsHeaders.txt
/System/MailHeaders.txt
--
SEC3

YAMN Help Tutorial - https://www.sec3.net/yamnhelp/
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ignore wrote:

Yamn 4.05 is unreliable, unstable, and doesn't deliver.

Relays ?????? Archiade, Sec3...and chain dirge Yam in pairs doesn't work.

Which pair works stably?

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

The version you are using is very old and has bugs.

C:\Users\xxxxxxxxxxxx\Desktop\yamn>yamn.exe -version
Version: 0.2c

The latest one, included with yamn-proxy, is:

G:\yamn>yamn.exe -version
0.2.7

https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/yamn-proxy

This version can't "phone home" by accident,
because MXRelay is set to false in config.go
and it does not need yamn.yml.

Regards
Stefan
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Il 15/08/2025 23:20, SEC3 ha scritto:

That Yamn client has not been maintained. for some time. Years.

You probably can get it to work, but you will have to update
some of its configuration files. Specifically

yamn.cfg (update the pinger address, removing the defunct cloaked.pw) /System/Relays.txt
/System/NewsHeaders.txt
/System/MailHeaders.txt

ok relays
iria.300baud.de:2525
mail.inwtx.net:2525
fleegle.mixmin.net:2525
mailrelay.sec3.net:2525 NO >>> dirge Yamn paranoyamn frell mailrelay.archiade.net:2525 NO >>> dirge Yamn paranoyamn frell smtp.dizum.com:2525
esnake.cloaked.pw:2525
sopoccfrkrpuiin5.onion:2525
gbhpq7eihle4btsn.onion:25

Mail readers and news readers are completed as they become available. https://www.mixmin.net/yamn/from.html

it's a matter of principle
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:12:51 +0200, ignore <ignore@ignore.invalid> wrote:

Il 15/08/2025 23:20, SEC3 ha scritto:

That Yamn client has not been maintained. for some time. Years.
You probably can get it to work, but you will have to update
some of its configuration files. Specifically

yamn.cfg (update the pinger address, removing the defunct cloaked.pw)
/System/Relays.txt
/System/NewsHeaders.txt
/System/MailHeaders.txt

ok relays
iria.300baud.de:2525
mail.inwtx.net:2525
fleegle.mixmin.net:2525
mailrelay.sec3.net:2525 NO >>> dirge Yamn paranoyamn frell >mailrelay.archiade.net:2525 NO >>> dirge Yamn paranoyamn frell >smtp.dizum.com:2525
esnake.cloaked.pw:2525
sopoccfrkrpuiin5.onion:2525
gbhpq7eihle4btsn.onion:25

Mail readers and news readers are completed as they become available. >https://www.mixmin.net/yamn/from.html

testing that yamn client "v0.4.05" . . . imo it's too "beta" and not
developed enough to be user-friendly, qsl 1.1.4 seems more intuitive
and is certainly easier to use, but because omnimix is the only yamn
client, is very well maintained and has so many more useful features,
there's really no need for anything else, it's the "omni" in omnimix

comparing from headers for yamn remailers, since only frell allows a
full <user-defined@user-defined> "from" header, whereas only partial
from header <user-defined@> is allowed by dirge, paranoyamn, and the
three mixmin yamns, as these "from headers" lists seem to explain it . . .

(using Tor Browser 14.5.5)
https://www.mixmin.net/yamn/from.html

From Headers [Mixmin YAMN Pinger]
Default From: Headers
The default From headers of all remailers when sending e-mail.
Middleman remailers are not listed here.

nick D. From Line type
dirge Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> mix
frell Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> mix
paranoyamn Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> mix
yamn Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn2 Yamn2 Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn3 Yamn3 Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> mix

User Supplied From: Headers
If a message sent with a user supplied From header differs from one without, >the remailer is listed here. The difference can either be an additional >disclaimer, actually allowing (partial) From headers, etc.

nick D. From Line type
dirge Echolot Pinger <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> mix
frell Echolot Pinger <echolot-yamn@fleegle.mixmin.net> mix
paranoyamn Echolot Pinger <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> mix
yamn Echolot Pinger <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn2 Echolot Pinger <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn3 Echolot Pinger <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
Created by Echolot 2.1.9.
Last update: Sat Aug 16 13:00:00 2025.

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(using Tor Browser 14.5.5)
http://echolot.theremailer.net/yamn/from.html

From Headers [remailer.frell.eu.org (Yamn)]
Default From: Headers
The default From headers of all remailers when sending e-mail.
Middleman remailers are not listed here.

nick D. From Line type
dirge Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> mix
frell Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> mix
paranoyamn Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> mix
yamn Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn2 Yamn2 Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn3 Yamn3 Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> mix

User Supplied From: Headers
If a message sent with a user supplied From header differs from one without, >the remailer is listed here. The difference can either be an additional >disclaimer, actually allowing (partial) From headers, etc.

nick D. From Line type
dirge Echolot Pinger <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> mix
frell Echolot Pinger <echolot@pinger.invalid> mix
paranoyamn Echolot Pinger <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> mix
yamn Echolot Pinger <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn2 Echolot Pinger <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
yamn3 Echolot Pinger <noreply@mixmin.net> mix
Created by Echolot 2.1.9.
Last update: Sat Aug 16 13:00:11 2025.

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