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Can You Use Omnimix On Your Phone? Answer: No, You Can't.
Can You Use Cypherpunk Remailers On Your Phone? Answer: Yes, You Can.
Can't be sitting at home with windows just to send anonymous posts!
Nomen Nescio asked in 20250924161456.5F2B13E812@mail.tcpreset.net:
Can You Use Omnimix On Your Phone? Answer: No, You Can't.
Can You Use Cypherpunk Remailers On Your Phone? Answer: Yes, You Can.
Can't be sitting at home with windows just to send anonymous posts!
I send posts from an android phone to OmniMix running on a Windows system.
Works like a champ.
anonymous <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
I send posts from an android phone to OmniMix running on a Windows system. >>Works like a champ.
Are you successfully running an Android mail client / newsreader app
with Orbot to remotely access your OmniMix proxy installation at home?
...[end quoted plain text]
https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutortor.htm
OmniMix * Tutorial * Tor
Tor is a real-time onion-routing system, which thereby allows anonymous Internet
communication without any delay. That makes it useful to hide your identity >especially while surfing the web or using other services, that aren't available
by mail. But the lack of latency on the other hand substantially increases the >chances for an adversary. So for anonymous mailing setting up a free email >account through Tor is only the second best solution.
Nevertheless OmniMix enables you to benefit from Tor with various kinds of >communication, which require immediate response, e.g. the retrieval of remailer
statistics or a stealthy Mixmaster packet delivery to entry remailers. The >program is preconfigured to run its own Tor instance and use that for every >Internet connection it establishes. You have to read the 'Configuration' chapter
only when problems arise or in case you're interested in what's going on 'under
the hood'.
But there are further services provided by OmniMix based on Tor, which you can >read about in the 'TorPlus' chapter.
...
https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutortorplusmail.htm
OmniMix * Tutorial * Tor * TorPlus * OrMail
The major advantage of remailer networks is unpredictable latency at each server
of the delivery chain, which renders correlation attacks useless, an important >contribution to its extremely reliable resistance against all kinds of attacks.
But that latency may be intolerable with time-critical missions, where also the
feedback of a successful transaction is mandatory, which remailers can't provide
as well.
That's where direct e-mail communication between sender and recipient through >the Tor network may be a viable solution.
It gives you secret end-to-end encrypted data transfers in realtime e.g. between
OmniMix installations, which are connected by a circuit of up to 9 anonymizing >Tor nodes, without the need of an additional external mail server.
Like anonymous remailing through the Mixmaster and Yamn network OrMail >integrates seamlessly into your mail management infrastructure. Use your standard
mail client, which may already be configured to route all traffic through >OmniMix, and, based on an OrMail recipients list within OmniMix, matching mail is
delivered directly through the Tor network and the destination's Tor Hidden >Service to the SMTP server attached to it. You only have to know the recipient's
.onion address, the port number used by that service and whether the receiving >server demands a Hashcash token to accept the mail message. From there the >recipient's mail client can download stored messages at any time with a POP3 >command. Similar to its nym account management OmniMix supports multiuser >environments with OrMail as well, as for each user multiple mail recipient ('To:'
header) patterns can be defined. Furthermore you're not restricted in the number
of separate Tor Hidden Service addresses and thereby identities usable for >different tasks.
At first make sure that at the TorPlus > Server tab the OmniMix SMTP server is >activated for OrMail processing.
Tutor_TorPlus_OrMail_Server
Then go to the TorPlus > HSvcs tab to set up such a Hidden Service for incoming
OrMail by clicking the '+' button to add a new item. >Tutor_TorPlus_OrMail_HS_Edit
Create a new folder, where Tor deploys Hidden Service data like the .onion >address it computes at a later restart. Then enter a random external port number
at 'Ext Port'. Better don't use a standard port, which is easier to detect by a
port scan done by an adversary. Set 'Int Address' to '127.0.0.1' for the local >computer as the device where the OrMail SMTP server resides, and enter its port
number into the 'Int Port' field. Be aware, that conflicting port numbers prevent
the server from (re)starting. So avoid duplicates and assign each entry its >unique internal port. To make mail flooding harder you may instruct your mail >server to ask for a Hashcash token in order to accept an incoming mail message.
Do so by entering a number above zero, usually 24..30, at the 'Hashcash' bit field.
Now, at the OrMail Address field, you have to enter a regular expression term, >which defines all 'To:' addresses of the mailboxes that are bound to that Hidden
Service.
With a restart of the OmniMix servers and then Tor the system is ready to >receive OrMail messages. That's when the Hidden Service's .onion address is >created and gets visible at the AddrExt column of the Hidden Service table. A >click on the '*' button of the Hidden Services list now copies the complete >OrMail address, external port number and Hashcash bit requirements, looking like
ormail2q4v4tsqtqludlts4cbmk5y5u2d74x6aus7tol642uxi2qh3yd:54321#28
into the clipboard ready to be sent to your communication partner(s) along with
the arbitrary mail address you intend to use.
Tutor_TorPlus_OrMail_HS
Warning: Keep the preinstalled SSL/TLS Demo Certificate ('omnimix_demo.pem' at >the Cert > Server tab) in place if you intend to use the OrMail SMTP server for
anonymity reasons. Otherwise, when replacing it with an individual certificate,
an adversary is able to cross-link your Hidden Services based on that >certificate's fingerprint! It would therefore be advisable to consider setting up
separate OmniMix installations for that purpose. And always keep in mind, that >Tor offers an offender many more attack vectors that anonymous remailing >including the usage of nym servers. Convenience has its price.
Now go to the 'User' Accounts tab, select your own user item (e.g. the >'OmniMix'/'omnimix' entry) and, for testing purposes, add a '^.*$' item, a >regular expression term for all possible addresses, to the 'OrMail Addresses' >list. Don't forget to set a check mark to activate that entry. >Tutor_TorPlus_OrMail_User_Edit
At the 'MailP' POP3 client tab you finally have to activate OrMail polling >('optional' or 'mandatory') with POP3 downloads by mail clients.
That's it at the receiving end. Now to the easier task at the sender. >Presuming that Tor is already running you first have to go to the Services > >OrMail tab, click the '+' button to add an item and define the OrMail recipient
who gave you his Hidden Service .onion address with the associated port number >and Hashcash bits by entering them at 'HS Address', 'Port' and 'Hashcash'. With
those communication parameters present in the clipboard formatted as mentioned >above they are quickly pasted from there by clicking the '<' button. Select >SSL/TLS 'enabled', as you can expect the OmniMix SMTP server at the destination
to support that data encryption method. Tor connect / read timeout intervals are
taken from the AnoMailS > Direct tab.
Tutor_TorPlus_OrMail_Recipient_Edit
Then at 'Local Address' enter a (short) unique describing address term that you
use as the recipient's address in your mail client, and at 'External Address' the
true address, by which your local term is overwritten before OmniMix forwards >your message. The name part outside the angle brackets isn't altered by OmniMix.
Caution: Never use potential real world mail addresses as local OrMail alias >addresses, as for security reasons even mail messages that match a deactivated >list entry are blocked.
After closing that window check the activation box above the OrMail Recipients >list.
Tutor_TorPlus_OrMail_Recipient
Finally, back at the 'User' tab, activate that OrMail address at the 'OrMail >Recipients' list for your account as shown in the picture above to make it >available. Keep in mind, that if OmniMix recognizes an OrMail recipient term, >which isn't unlocked for the respective user, the transmission of that message is
aborted to prevent the leakage of information. I urge you to send your first test
message to check its routing with OmniMix in Simulation mode. That's the way to
avoid unpleasant results!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 16:14:56 +0000 (UTC), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
Can You Use Omnimix On Your Phone? Answer: No, You Can't.
Can You Use Cypherpunk Remailers On Your Phone? Answer: Yes, You Can.
Can't be sitting at home with windows just to send anonymous posts!
omnimix for android, maybe someday, but tor browser android is available today . . .
(using Tor Browser 14.5.7) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tor+browser+android&ia=web&assist=true
Tor Browser for Android is the official mobile browser developed by the Tor Project, designed to enhance privacy and freedom online by blocking trackers and[end quoted "search assist"]
ads. It is free to use and helps protect against surveillance and censorship.
Google Tor Project
Overview of Tor Browser for Android
Tor Browser for Android is the official mobile browser developed by the Tor Project. It is designed to provide users with privacy and freedom while browsing
the internet. The browser is free to download and use, but donations help support
its development.
Key Features
Privacy Protection
Block Trackers: Tor Browser isolates each website you visit, preventing third-
party trackers and ads from following you.
No Tracking Code: The browser is built on Firefox but has all tracking
features disabled to enhance privacy.
User Experience
Basic Permissions: The app requires only essential permissions to function,
ensuring minimal data access.
Performance: Some users report that the browser can be slow and buggy,
particularly when connecting to the Tor network.
Installation and Use
Download: Available on the Google Play Store, it can be installed like any
other app.
Connecting to Tor: Launch the app and click on 'Connect' to access the Tor
network.
Limitations
No Syncing: There is no built-in feature to sync bookmarks between the mobile
and desktop versions of Tor Browser.
No Additional Plugins: Users are advised against installing extra add-ons, as
they may compromise privacy.
For those seeking a secure browsing experience on mobile, Tor Browser for Android is a strong option, though it may require some patience due to its performance issues.
Google Tor Project
omnimix for debian linux would run in "tails" (which already has tor browser) omnimix for android, omnimix for linux, omnimix for ios, omnimix for everyone with a smart phone, that way, everyone can use cpunk, mix, and yamn remailers the proper way, creating messages on your own device and sending multilayered encrypted packets via tor to entry remailer of the random remailer chain with random copies, dummies, etc., i.e. how anonymous remailers are generally used
Can You Use Omnimix On Your Phone? Answer: No, You Can't.
Can You Use Cypherpunk Remailers On Your Phone? Answer: Yes, You Can.
Can't be sitting at home with windows just to send anonymous posts!
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Can You Use Omnimix On Your Phone? Answer: No, You Can't.
Can You Use Cypherpunk Remailers On Your Phone? Answer: Yes, You Can.
Can't be sitting at home with windows just to send anonymous posts!
Me neither and therefore I use yamn-proxy on my smartphone, which can't
phone home. :-D https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/yamn-proxy
D wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 16:14:56 +0000 (UTC), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
Can You Use Omnimix On Your Phone? Answer: No, You Can't.
Can You Use Cypherpunk Remailers On Your Phone? Answer: Yes, You
Can. Can't be sitting at home with windows just to send anonymous
posts!
omnimix for android, maybe someday, but tor browser android is
available today . . .
Will not happen, because of OmniMix's ugly and small GUI which would
not work with smartphones and Danner is unable to cross-compile.
(using Tor Browser 14.5.7)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tor+browser+android&ia=web&assist=true
Tor Browser for Android is the official mobile browser developed by[end quoted "search assist"]
the Tor Project, designed to enhance privacy and freedom online by
blocking trackers and ads. It is free to use and helps protect
against surveillance and censorship. Google Tor Project
Overview of Tor Browser for Android
Tor Browser for Android is the official mobile browser developed by
the Tor Project. It is designed to provide users with privacy and
freedom while browsing the internet. The browser is free to
download and use, but donations help support its development.
Key Features
Privacy Protection
Block Trackers: Tor Browser isolates each website you visit,
preventing third- party trackers and ads from following you.
No Tracking Code: The browser is built on Firefox but has all
tracking features disabled to enhance privacy.
User Experience
Basic Permissions: The app requires only essential permissions to
function, ensuring minimal data access.
Performance: Some users report that the browser can be slow and
buggy, particularly when connecting to the Tor network.
Installation and Use
Download: Available on the Google Play Store, it can be installed
like any other app.
Connecting to Tor: Launch the app and click on 'Connect' to access
the Tor network.
Limitations
No Syncing: There is no built-in feature to sync bookmarks between
the mobile and desktop versions of Tor Browser.
No Additional Plugins: Users are advised against installing extra
add-ons, as they may compromise privacy.
For those seeking a secure browsing experience on mobile, Tor
Browser for Android is a strong option, though it may require some
patience due to its performance issues.
Google Tor Project
omnimix for debian linux would run in "tails" (which already has tor
browser) omnimix for android, omnimix for linux, omnimix for ios,
omnimix for everyone with a smart phone, that way, everyone can use
cpunk, mix, and yamn remailers the proper way, creating messages on
your own device and sending multilayered encrypted packets via tor to
entry remailer of the random remailer chain with random copies,
dummies, etc., i.e. how anonymous remailers are generally used
YAMN works on more than fourty different platforms ... and the brand
new Onion Courier Mix Client will soon replace YAMN and Mixmaster
clients, so no place for your Omnimix dreams in the future.
Will not happen, because of OmniMix's ugly and small GUI which wouldOmniMix works perfectly for what it's intended to do. It was never
not work with smartphones and Danner is unable to cross-compile.
intended to be a client.
On 28 Sep 2025, Stefan Claas ><pollux@yeffqiea4xtcu6woyab6z6bz4oehisfuzgtmk4e277bydq25p7nha7ad.onion> >posted some news:10bar6l$1s07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
YAMN works on more than fourty different platforms ... and the brand
new Onion Courier Mix Client will soon replace YAMN and Mixmaster
clients, so no place for your Omnimix dreams in the future.
OmniMix works perfectly for what it's intended to do. It was never
intended to be a client. Comparing it in that sense is rather
ignorant on your part and disappointing because you're smarter than that.
The Mixmaster / YAMN clients have been weak for some time and hindered the >use of all services. OmniMix provided an easy service enablement using
what clients and other options were available.
Mixmaster has survived and still works well overall.
YAMN has always had promise, but refined clients never appeared.
What's lacking on the YAMN side now is an unfettered news server. The >current YAMN news server operator has embarked on random post subject >molesting with no apparent consistency or pattern.
We appreciate your creativity and contributions, but attacking roots of an >establishd community is counterproductive long term. Don't get sucked in
by the idiots and let it affect your judgement.
In article <15c2f01961f9dc92ac09bb21c9df11cf@dizum.com> Nomen Nescio
wrote:
On 28 Sep 2025, Stefan Claas >><pollux@yeffqiea4xtcu6woyab6z6bz4oehisfuzgtmk4e277bydq25p7nha7ad.onion> >>posted some news:10bar6l$1s07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
YAMN works on more than fourty different platforms ... and the brand
new Onion Courier Mix Client will soon replace YAMN and Mixmaster
clients, so no place for your Omnimix dreams in the future.
OmniMix works perfectly for what it's intended to do. It was never >>intended to be a client. Comparing it in that sense is rather
ignorant on your part and disappointing because you're smarter than
that.
The Mixmaster / YAMN clients have been weak for some time and hindered
the use of all services. OmniMix provided an easy service enablement
using what clients and other options were available.
Mixmaster has survived and still works well overall.
YAMN has always had promise, but refined clients never appeared.
What's lacking on the YAMN side now is an unfettered news server. The >>current YAMN news server operator has embarked on random post subject >>molesting with no apparent consistency or pattern.
We appreciate your creativity and contributions, but attacking roots
of an establishd community is counterproductive long term. Don't get >>sucked in by the idiots and let it affect your judgement.
News servers aren't related to YAMN in any way. For the rest full ACK.
On 28 Sep 2025, Fritz Wuehler ><fritz@spamexpire-202509.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some >news:20250929.012031.3d022b88@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
In article <15c2f01961f9dc92ac09bb21c9df11cf@dizum.com> Nomen Nescio
wrote:
What's lacking on the YAMN side now is an unfettered news server. The >>>current YAMN news server operator has embarked on random post subject >>>molesting with no apparent consistency or pattern.
News servers aren't related to YAMN in any way. For the rest full ACK.
How does YAMN send articles to usenet then?