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D <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 00:23:09 +0100, Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote: >>In article <20250703.210950.44f04609@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> D wrote: >>>"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

(using Tor Browser 14.5.4) >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailer

snip

This is new:

Modern Tor-Based Alternatives. With the decline of classical remailers (e.g.,
Mixmaster) due to vulnerabilities to traffic correlation[4], some users have
migrated to Tor-integrated remailers like Onion Courier[5]. These systems >>>>leverage Tor hidden services to resist metadata surveillance, addressing key
weaknesses of older designs[6].

But it doesn't reflect anything new or modern. Onion Courier is
some kind of an antiquated Type 1 remailer system inheriting all
its weaknesses simply connected by Tor hidden services. Nothing
new and nothing of value. Such rubbish has no place in WP. What
we really need is Mixmaster and YAMN armed by hidden service >>interconnections, which was requested repeatedly for a long time.
That's what hardens anonymous mailing, so that's the way to go.

don't know about hidden services (remailer chains w/ tor works great),
but those tor-mailer promoters are status quo, they're the "good guys"

The good guys? Status quo? No! MM/YAMN/OM are status quo. They
represent a high-security remailing system those guys try to erode.
The "Modern Tor-Based Alternatives" chapter is a complete hoax.
With such collaborate idiots it's all getting worse in this world.

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Stefan Claas <stefan@mailchuck.com> wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

D wrote:

"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who also
conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

At least you could spell my name right, when accusing me of a wiki entry
I have not done.

Of course it was you. Who else would do that? We aren't stupid. Too
late for you to learn that VPNs aren't tools to avert social engineering.

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On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 17:23:03 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:

D <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 00:23:09 +0100, Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote: >>>In article <20250703.210950.44f04609@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> D wrote: >>>>"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

(using Tor Browser 14.5.4) >>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailer

snip

This is new:

Modern Tor-Based Alternatives. With the decline of classical remailers (e.g.,
Mixmaster) due to vulnerabilities to traffic correlation[4], some users have
migrated to Tor-integrated remailers like Onion Courier[5]. These systems >>>>>leverage Tor hidden services to resist metadata surveillance, addressing key
weaknesses of older designs[6].

But it doesn't reflect anything new or modern. Onion Courier is
some kind of an antiquated Type 1 remailer system inheriting all
its weaknesses simply connected by Tor hidden services. Nothing
new and nothing of value. Such rubbish has no place in WP. What
we really need is Mixmaster and YAMN armed by hidden service >>>interconnections, which was requested repeatedly for a long time.
That's what hardens anonymous mailing, so that's the way to go.

don't know about hidden services (remailer chains w/ tor works great),
but those tor-mailer promoters are status quo, they're the "good guys"

The good guys? Status quo? No! MM/YAMN/OM are status quo. They
represent a high-security remailing system those guys try to erode.
The "Modern Tor-Based Alternatives" chapter is a complete hoax.
With such collaborate idiots it's all getting worse in this world.

always seemed that way but they're only doing their duty (same as it
ever was) so in that regard planet earth has always been under their
dominion . . . therefore they must be the good guys, the master plan,
manifest destiny, eminent domain, etc., which even they openly admit
is hereditary, divine right of kings, so nothing ever really changes
in terms of caste (can't get any worse as it's always been that way)

anonymous remailers may be "status quo" down here in the netherworld

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Anonymous wrote:

Stefan Claas <stefan@mailchuck.com> wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

D wrote:

"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who also conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

At least you could spell my name right, when accusing me of a wiki entry
I have not done.

Of course it was you. Who else would do that? We aren't stupid. Too
late for you to learn that VPNs aren't tools to avert social engineering.

???? Mind you, I do not use Wikipedia for writing articles nor for reading, since it's founder anounced a long time ago that it can not be trusted any longer.
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In article <20250704.154341.8b55311f@mixmin.net> D wrote:

obviously, wikipedia's current "anonymous_remailer" page could use some serious updating . . . e.g. why no mention of usenet or a.p.a-s? why is mixminion still there? and why are pseudonymous "tor-based alternatives" added to this anonymous remailers page instead of under "tor_(network)"?
and the list goes on . . . wikipedia is mainstream media, so they can't
be expected to ever allow or tolerate non-mainstream/unapproved content

approved, status quo; unapproved, invisible; never the twain shall meet

| Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 12:56:56 +0200
| From: Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org>
| Subject: Wikipedia
| Message-ID: <7a1510220ef2205cbf7c1c3a4c7b9f09@hoi-polloi.org>
| Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTF#Language_and_expressions
|
| Some GermanJoe removed the remailer frontend section from the "Anonymous
| Remailer" Wikipedia article.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=774709180&oldid=774688059
|
| Keeping the few remailer frontends we have under wraps mentioning only
| core remailer components much too complicated to be used directly is an
| act to discourage dissemination of that technology, just another attempt
| on free speech.
|
| That's like explaining email RFCs, e.g. in
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smtp, without referring to mail server and
| client software.

Was Claas the GermanJoe who removed the Remailer Software section

<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=prev&oldid=774688059#Remailer_software>

from Wikipedia in 2017? Anyone putting it back in its place?

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Nomen Nescio wrote:

Was Claas the GermanJoe who removed the Remailer Software section

<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=prev&oldid=774688059#Remailer_software>

from Wikipedia in 2017? Anyone putting it back in its place?

No.

I suggest that you guys are getting productive and set-up a Remailer FAQ,
or whatever it is called webpage, like a GitHub etc. repository, where you
can host your Remailer Wiki, so that it can't be edited by third parties.



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On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 01:23:06 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

In article <20250704.154341.8b55311f@mixmin.net> D wrote:

obviously, wikipedia's current "anonymous_remailer" page could use some
serious updating . . . e.g. why no mention of usenet or a.p.a-s? why is
mixminion still there? and why are pseudonymous "tor-based alternatives"
added to this anonymous remailers page instead of under "tor_(network)"?
and the list goes on . . . wikipedia is mainstream media, so they can't
be expected to ever allow or tolerate non-mainstream/unapproved content
approved, status quo; unapproved, invisible; never the twain shall meet

| Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 12:56:56 +0200
| From: Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org>
| Subject: Wikipedia
| Message-ID: <7a1510220ef2205cbf7c1c3a4c7b9f09@hoi-polloi.org>
| Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTF#Language_and_expressions
| Some GermanJoe removed the remailer frontend section from the "Anonymous
| Remailer" Wikipedia article.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=774709180&oldid=774688059
| Keeping the few remailer frontends we have under wraps mentioning only
| core remailer components much too complicated to be used directly is an
| act to discourage dissemination of that technology, just another attempt
| on free speech.
| That's like explaining email RFCs, e.g. in
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smtp, without referring to mail server and
| client software.

Was Claas the GermanJoe who removed the Remailer Software section ><https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=prev&oldid=774688059#Remailer_software>
from Wikipedia in 2017? Anyone putting it back in its place?

could be any one or several of their aging/ageless operatives under any trade-name of their invention . . . they're running the show, after all

the blueworld server (news.blueworldhosting.com ) has excellent article retention (about 21 years), e.g. users can find several more "wikipedia"
gems concerning the recurring sanitation of and opposition to remailers,
which was certainly reinforced after their success in shutting down the
penet remailer, so it's no mystery who's been pulling these marionettes' strings for the past three decades . . . they own and control the earth

two more articles about wikipedia's mighty overlord muddying the waters:

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:39:53 -0700 (MST)

From: Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net>
Subject: Wikipedia remailer article garbled
Message-ID: <36299a6a93b04fada33d3f52b9b78060@pseudo.borked.net>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server

Glancing through the Wikipedia article on anonymous remailers at >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailer I just noticed, that a
few weeks ago nearly all external links including references to
remailer statistics and software were removed without substitution: >http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=prev&oldid=260821642
Is that acceptable?
...

Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:50:03 +0200 (CEST)

From: Dave U. Random <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Subject: Wikipedia fraud
Message-ID: <ce45a0fcba4b2fdd6edc43ca16a27ced@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> >Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server

Scouring Wikipedia for pages on anonymous remailing I
realized that all references to client side software
(PI, JBN, QS, OM) were removed. Receiving the false
impression that there's no software support for such
rather complex techniques John Q. Public can't help
being scared away from anonymous communication.
I wonder whose intention it is to mutilate Wikipedia
essays in order to keep those applications under
wraps? As a counterexample the articles "Mail
transfer agent" and "Email client" help you along
with comprehensive lists of related software, of
course not touching on the anonymity topic.
Isn't it time to react and bring that very important
PR medium back on board?
...

the troll farm will never stop, but users can keep trying anyway . . .

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On 04 Jul 2025, Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> posted some news:20250704.184804.97306080@yamn.paranoici.org:

Stefan Claas <stefan@mailchuck.com> wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

D wrote:

"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who
also
conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

At least you could spell my name right, when accusing me of a wiki
entry I have not done.

Of course it was you. Who else would do that? We aren't stupid.

we as in the majority aren't, you're the exception.

Too late for you to learn that VPNs aren't tools to avert social
engineering.

for neophytes that's a partially true statement. for those who know how
to leverage them it's quite a different story.

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Stupid Claas told us:

Nomen Nescio wrote:

Was Claas the GermanJoe who removed the Remailer Software section

<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=prev&oldid=774688059#Remailer_software>

from Wikipedia in 2017? Anyone putting it back in its place?

No.

We'll see.

I suggest that you guys are getting productive and set-up a Remailer FAQ,
or whatever it is called webpage, like a GitHub etc. repository, where you can host your Remailer Wiki, so that it can't be edited by third parties.

Dumbo, I suggest that you open <https://duckduckgogg42xjoc72x3sjasowoarfbgcmvfimaftt6twagswzczad.onion/html?q=remailer>
in your Tor Browser and then tell us about the first entry you get.

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Claas wrote:

Yamn Remailer wrote:

This is new:

Modern Tor-Based Alternatives. With the decline of classical remailers (e.g.,
Mixmaster) due to vulnerabilities to traffic correlation[4], some users have
migrated to Tor-integrated remailers like Onion Courier[5]. These systems
leverage Tor hidden services to resist metadata surveillance, addressing key
weaknesses of older designs[6].

But it doesn't reflect anything new or modern. Onion Courier is
some kind of an antiquated Type 1 remailer system inheriting all
its weaknesses simply connected by Tor hidden services. Nothing
new and nothing of value. Such rubbish has no place in WP. What
we really need is Mixmaster and YAMN armed by hidden service
interconnections, which was requested repeatedly for a long time.
That's what hardens anonymous mailing, so that's the way to go.

It is true that Onion Courier works similar to TypeI, however without
logging and storing data, compared to remailers, people use nowadays.

How will we know? The only fact here is that you give us the runaround
day after day. You aren't trustworthy. And, beyond that, I'd never use
an anonymizing network which, like a VPN, only bases on trust.

Secondly it has the advantage over Mixmaster/YAMN that anonymous nodes
can interact with public nodes without that the public nodes know the >connecting anonymous nodes. It is a fully decentralzed and global Tor
Hidden Service Anonymous Network, which can be run on local PCs.

The only way forward is to equip Type 2 remailers with Tor Hidden
Services, not to revert to now obsolete weak Type 1 remailing, which
even with Tor is less secure than Type 2 without it.

Try that with Mixmaster/YAMN, their public IP addresses/Domains and
logging capabilities. Users of such systems can only been protected
with Tor. That should tell you somehting!

That's a blatant lie! As long as at least one remailer of each chain
isn't compromised you can't assign messages leaving a Type 2 system to
the packets entering it even with extensive logging from in- or outside.

I don't care about your interested motives, but you low-life continue to
spread FUD, nothing but baseless accusations. It isn't Mixmaster or
YAMN, it's your Type 1 shit, which can't be protected even by Tor interconnections.

It remains to be seen if Zax is willing to implement the points I
have recently outlined here, regarding YAMN, to make YAMN truly
anonymous, without any logging capabilities postfix offers, while
postfix is not needed.

But it's not you who would take credit for it, as that obvious
enhancement was already proposed a long time ago. The OmniMix developer
added a Tor module for remailer packet forwarding about two decades ago!

| 0.9.3.8 Tor proxy option added for Mixmaster smtp output.

So take your mood disorder medicine to attenuate your inferiority
complex and need for admiration, and stop poisoning this group.

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Stefan Claas wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Stefan Claas <stefan@mailchuck.com> wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

D wrote:

"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who also >> > > conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

At least you could spell my name right, when accusing me of a wiki entry >> > I have not done.

Of course it was you. Who else would do that? We aren't stupid. Too
late for you to learn that VPNs aren't tools to avert social engineering.

???? Mind you, I do not use Wikipedia for writing articles nor for reading, >since it's founder anounced a long time ago that it can not be trusted any >longer.

Either it was him, or one of his Bela-/Russian Nazi friends did
him a favor, it doesn't matter. That weird Wikipedia text's only
purpose is to promote his hopelessly stupid software endeavors.

Heil Putin!

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Anonymous User wrote:

Claas wrote:

It remains to be seen if Zax is willing to implement the points I
have recently outlined here, regarding YAMN, to make YAMN truly
anonymous, without any logging capabilities postfix offers, while
postfix is not needed.

But it's not you who would take credit for it, as that obvious
enhancement was already proposed a long time ago. The OmniMix developer added a Tor module for remailer packet forwarding about two decades ago!

| 0.9.3.8 Tor proxy option added for Mixmaster smtp output.

You do not understand, what I was talking about in my recent "YAMN improvements" thread.

Anyways, I already have an implementation of a Tor Hidden Service
Onion Courier *Mix*node ready, which uses a hybrid poisson+batch
mixing technique, with all pool messages in memory and not on disk,
memguard protected. It uses http and not smtp, to avoid postfix
usage and it's logging capabilities. Onion Courier Mixnodes can
be set-up in a minute and run either publicity or anonymous, on a
VPS or at home, while exchanging messages with each other.
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with all pool messages in memory and not on disk,

Why? It makes the network less reliable if a node loses all messages with every simple restart.

It uses http and not smtp, to avoid postfix usage

That's a very odd argument to make. Do all remailers use postfix?

and it's logging capabilities.

The protocol was designed that logged metadata does not have information about message contents or link source and destination. Use Tor if you don't want remailer servers to see your IP address.

while exchanging messages with each other.

Are there any pingers that monitor network reliability and latency?

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I suggest that you guys are getting productive and set-up a Remailer

FAQ,

or whatever it is called webpage, like a GitHub etc. repository,

where you

can host your Remailer Wiki, so that it can't be edited by third

parties.

I don't know anything about this but:

https://github.com/inwtx/mixmaster

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Stefan Claas' virtual buddy Boris Badenov <borisb@minsk.by> wrote:

On 03 Jul 2025, Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> posted some >news:20250703.225749.ed7642ac@yamn.paranoici.org:

D wrote:

"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who also
conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=next&oldid=1259228125>

City Minsk
Region Minsk City (HM)
Postal code 220004
Country Belarus (BY)
Continent Europe (EU)
Coordinates 53.901 (lat) / 27.5707 (long)
Time 2025-07-04 08:43:58 (Europe/Minsk)
Network
IP address 91.238.70.238
Hostname 91.238.70.238
Provider M247 Europe SRL
ASN 9009

% Information related to '91.238.70.0 - 91.238.70.255'

| Modern Tor-Based Alternatives. With the decline of classical
| remailers (e.g., Mixmaster) due to vulnerabilities to traffic
| correlation[4], some users have migrated to Tor-integrated remailers
| like Onion Courier[5]. These systems leverage Tor hidden services to
| resist metadata surveillance, addressing key weaknesses of older
| designs[6].

Due to latency, remixing and packets of unique size only remailers
are
immune to traffic correlation attacks and meta data analyses. It's
Tor, which is vulnerable in this respect. Game over if you compare
realtime i/o of sender and hidden server, whose connection with its

Good luck with that.

Tor entry node can easily be monitored by an external observer. And

So what? Every outbound connection plus port you make from a provider is >logged.

Either you simply don't get it or intentionally try to distract us from
evident facts.

By forwarding incoming data packets after a random amount of time in
mixed order Mixmaster and YAMN Type II remailers are NOT IN THE LEAST vulnerable to timing correlation attacks, which renders logging
irrelevant. That's what makes anonymous remailing so secure compared
with Tor, where the major weak spot is its realtime client-server communication. You're washed-up if an adversary has an idea of the
server you may use through a Tor circuit no matter how long it may be.

above all his links prove nothing. And they relate to Tor, not
remailers.

Tor and remailers go hand in hand.

So if it's about Tor, why doesn't Class promote his crap at the Tor
page. I'm sure they'll blow him apart. Problem solved.

That guy is mentally ill! And we have to take a stand against that
crude FUD attack. This is a textbook example of Wikipedia misuse.

He's done quite a bit to expand and leverage something that needed it.

On taking stock, you only promoted the nym VPN company, tuta mail shit,
weak Tor mailing and ORBs, which are broken by design, to lead us away
from our secure anonymity tools. That's not just nothing of relevance.
It's even an offensive and misleading strategy to counter our efforts.

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obviously, wikipedia's current "anonymous_remailer" page could use

some

serious updating . . . e.g. why no mention of usenet or a.p.a-s? why

is

mixminion still there? and why are pseudonymous "tor-based

alternatives"

added to this anonymous remailers page instead of under

"tor_(network)"?

and the list goes on . . . wikipedia is mainstream media, so they

can't

be expected to ever allow or tolerate non-mainstream/unapproved

content

approved, status quo; unapproved, invisible; never the twain shall

meet

Some day D is going to learn what the Shift key is for or find the
energy to push it or gain the intelligence to use it.

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Nomen Nescio wrote:

with all pool messages in memory and not on disk,

Why? It makes the network less reliable if a node loses all messages with every simple restart.

I do not want that third parties or an operator can look from a publicty
run Mixnode to look into the pool, to see if there are messages in for anonymous nodes.

It uses http and not smtp, to avoid postfix usage

That's a very odd argument to make. Do all remailers use postfix?

Yes, or Exim.

The protocol was designed that logged metadata does not have information about message contents or link source and destination. Use Tor if you don't want remailer servers to see your IP address.

postfix log files for Mixmaster or YAMN, if logging is enabled, can see the source and destination of all traffic, except a user connects via Tor.

while exchanging messages with each other.

Are there any pingers that monitor network reliability and latency?

I do not plan to create pinger software, as it is not needed. But people
can of course create such software and run it.

Onion Courier Mixnets are more desigend as private Networks, run by people
who do want to stay anonymous with their family, friends and co-workers.

However, I do plan to run three public Mixnodes, so that people can try
the Mixnet out, for comparison.

Regards
Stefan
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Anonymous wrote:

https://github.com/inwtx/mixmaster

Yes, this is a good Mixmaster tutorial by inwtx.

This way, with a GitHub account, for example, people
could write a Remailer Wiki as a static web page
and link to it in postings, as signature, like SEC3
does with his YAMN tutorial.

Regards
Stefan
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"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who

also

conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

At least you could spell my name right, when accusing me of a wiki

entry

I have not done.

HA HA! I saw that too. A dimbulb accusing someone else of being a
dimbulb.

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Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> wrote:

I suggest that you guys are getting productive and set-up a Remailer

FAQ,

or whatever it is called webpage, like a GitHub etc. repository,

where you

can host your Remailer Wiki, so that it can't be edited by third

parties.

I don't know anything about this but:

https://github.com/inwtx/mixmaster

Those are

| Debian mixmaster remailer installation instructions

not specially tailor-made for a rookie.

https://mixmaster.sourceforge.net/faq.shtml
https://www.mixminion.net/
https://remailer.paranoici.org/ https://remailer.paranoici.org/introduzione_ai_remailers.pdf https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Remailer
https://danner-net.de/om.htm https://dcssproject.net/anonymous-remailers/index.html https://www.cs.swarthmore.edu/~eroberts/cs91/projects/anonymity-on-the-net/anonremailers.html
https://medium.com/chainrift-research/a-condensed-history-of-anonymous-remailers-6b86d9e173fc
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/computer-science/anonymous-remailer http://www.andrebacard.com/remail.html

Mostly too old to rock 'n' roll ...

... and hardly anything in layman's terms.

A central collecting point at Wikipedia would make a huge difference!

We have to attract attention to keep anonymous remailing alive and well.

But if nobody is willing to expose himself it would be a difficult task
as long as Wikipedia blocks anonymous editing.

So my question:

Is there anybody out there whom we can send text fragments and graphics
to build the greatest Wikipedia *Anonymous Remailer* page of all times?

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Stefan Claas once again didn't get it:

postfix log files for Mixmaster or YAMN, if logging is enabled, can see the source and destination of all traffic, except a user connects via Tor.

A) It's impossible to assign outgoing remailer packets to those that
once entered the remailer as they look different! And file creation
timestamps wouldn't also get you any further.

B) Having to deal with a remailer chain of 6, 8, 10 or even more hops
you'd need to compromise each link of it and thereby possibly the whole
network to be successful with your attack.

Nevertheless, why not run Mixmaster and YAMN servers along with Tor and
add a higher priority .onion address to remailer MX records as
demonstrated by frell years ago?

| 10:36:26.931 0 Trying to get MX server(s) for domain 'remailer.frell.eu.org' from the cache ...
| 10:36:26.931 0 For domain 'remailer.frell.eu.org' cache knows expired (2025-07-05 03:25:27) mail host 'mail2.frell.eu.org', priority 10
| 10:36:26.931 0 For domain 'remailer.frell.eu.org' cache knows expired (2025-07-05 03:25:27) mail host 'a6sy4mr4vpnnfhlop2vthsi4heaonouxtrat2hpz2dzbcf45twpxvzyd.onion', priority 5
| 10:36:26.931 0 No valid mail exchange server(s) for 'remailer.frell.eu.org' found in the cache, trying to retrieve from an external nameserver ...
| 10:36:26.931 0 Trying to get MX server(s) for domain 'remailer.frell.eu.org' from an external nameserver ...
| 10:36:26.931 0 Asking domainname server '208.67.222.222'
| 10:36:26.931 > DNS State: Connecting to 127.0.0.1.
| 10:36:27.979 0 For domain 'remailer.frell.eu.org' nameserver knows mail host 'a6sy4mr4vpnnfhlop2vthsi4heaonouxtrat2hpz2dzbcf45twpxvzyd.onion', priority 5
| 10:36:27.979 0 For domain 'remailer.frell.eu.org' nameserver knows mail host 'mail2.frell.eu.org', priority 10
| 10:36:27.979 0 Mail exchange server(s) for 'remailer.frell.eu.org' found on an external nameserver

But what I won't like is a Tor scenario, where the identity of remops is unknown, protected by hidden service addresses.

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Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:

"this page was last edited on 30 June 2025" . . .

... by dimbulb Class, the intellectually challenged asshole who

also

conquered this group, now praising his bs hacks in Wikipedia:

At least you could spell my name right, when accusing me of a wiki

entry

I have not done.

HA HA! I saw that too. A dimbulb accusing someone else of being a
dimbulb.

I was also wondering about that unconventional shortening
of the apt term "clueless asshole".

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Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:

But it's not you who would take credit for it, as that obvious
enhancement was already proposed a long time ago. The OmniMix developer added a Tor module for remailer packet forwarding about two decades ago!

| 0.9.3.8 Tor proxy option added for Mixmaster smtp output.

: Date: 15 May 2006 11:35:19 -0000
: Message-ID: <HRK3ZCNH38852.274525463@anonymous.poster>
: From: Christian Danner <---@---.--->
: Subject: OmniMix now with native Tor support
: Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
: X-No-Archive: No
: X-Hashcash: 1:17:060514:fluffybunny::TWUw8Mg1EEykgjd5:0000000Y+k
: MIME-Version: 1.0
: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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: X-Remailer-Contact: Anonymous Mailer <DingoAdmin@DingoRemailer.com>
: X-Spam-Processed: dingoremailer.com, Mon, 15 May 2006 06:35:20 -0500
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: Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com
: Organization: mail2news@dizum.com
:
: Hi all,
:
: yesterday I uploaded OmniMix 0.9.3.8 with native Tor support for the
: integrated Mixmaster related anon mail client. So there would be no
: need for Privoxy, SocksCap etc..
:
: In my first testings I succeeded in sending messages through Tor to
: deuxpi.ca:25 (via a TLS connection), and the panta hidden service at
: rjgcfnw4sd2jaqfu.onion:25 (for unknown reasons unfortunately only
: unencryted), using Socks5. Besides the HS indicator, also regarding
: the Ethereal protocols, I assume, the DNS requests were routed
: correctly through Tor.
:
: To feel safer, I would be pleased about a second opinion. Could one of
: the Tor experts spare me some time and take a glance at the current
: version, to check out whether there are any data leakages or other
: security flaws?
:
: Thanks
:
: Christian
: --
: OmniMix .. protect your privacy
: http://www.danner-net.de/om.htm
:

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Anonymous User wrote:

But what I won't like is a Tor scenario, where the identity of remops is unknown, protected by hidden service addresses.

My solution is for users of decentralized private Mixnets, of unknown
Network size to third parties and only the users running such servers
know with whom they like to mix and communicate. This IMHO can encourage
people to safely run a Mixnode at home (Raspberry Pi) and no learning
curve and maintenance is required.

Regards
Stefan

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