• Re: God. Proof. Aliens: Physician heal thyself

    From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 16:13:40 2025
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    On 7/4/25 9:30 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I see you have trouble with the concept of "if."

    Lol! Doubling down! Big SCORE on the Troll-O-Meter for
    you!

    If Don Pardo was here he'd be announcing your 10 extra
    doses of your meds you just won...

    There's no "If." Abiogenesis has never been observed.

    Abiogenesis has never been achieved in a laboratory.

    Nobody is "Studying" abiogenesis any more than they are
    "Studying" unicorns.

    No "If."

    It ain't happening.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 16:18:04 2025
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    On 7/4/25 9:30 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I don't. I addressed your

    Typical narcissist... thinks he's an expert, cherry picks
    what to disputes, does so badly... can't admit to any
    error...
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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 15:41:46 2025
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    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:13:40 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 9:30 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I see you have trouble with the concept of "if."

    Lol! Doubling down! Big SCORE on the Troll-O-Meter for
    you!

    If Don Pardo was here he'd be announcing your 10 extra
    doses of your meds you just won...

    Was he your boyfriend?

    There's no "If." Abiogenesis has never been observed.

    Neither has your brain.

    Abiogenesis has never been achieved in a laboratory.

    No one expects it to have been. First you need a self-replicating
    entity that can evolve over millions of years from just replication
    to being alive.

    Nobody is "Studying" abiogenesis any more than they are
    "Studying" unicorns.

    No "If."

    It ain't happening.

    If pigs could fly, we'd need better umbrellas. Likewise, if
    abiogenesis was not being studied, you wouldn't have something like
    this:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/05/250528132057.htm

    "Chemists at UCL and the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology have
    demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might have replicated itself
    on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life."

    So you see how the word "if" works?
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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 15:42:00 2025
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    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:18:04 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 9:30 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I don't. I addressed your

    Typical narcissist... thinks he's an expert, cherry picks
    what to disputes, does so badly... can't admit to any
    error...

    You narcissistic troll. Remember "Nobody goes to your fucked up web
    site"? How did *that* make you feel?

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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 17:44:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On 7/2/2025 10:02 PM, JTEM wrote:
     Dawn Flood wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle

    Some explain to Dawn Davenport that Wiki isn't a legitimate
    cite.

    All Wiki is useful for is to establish that you didn't make
    something up. The fact that it's in Wiki in no way excludes
    the probability that it's made up, it just establishes that
    you aren't the one who made it up.

    If you can read, checked the articles CITED BY Wiki. These
    is a chance you will find a legitimate cite supporting a
    claim.





    Then what religion was Professor Hoyle?
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 17:45:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On 7/2/2025 3:50 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:42ea6kl14e750g85r9o0oo2p9ckn0pa1ak@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    name a single miracle; name a single scientific paper in the last >>>>>> 40 years that appeals to "God" as being an explanation for anything. >>>>
                                                   DNA

    DNA is a molecule that contains the specific instructions for the
    synthesis of ~~~ every living thing~~~ The prime origin of these
    instructions that are in digital code format could of necessity -
    only- be from a source of Intelligence.

    Our most awesome Creator.....

     GOD

    Okay, you didn't answer my question, and that is fine.

    There has been abundant scientific evidence in the
    last 40 years, as well an since the very beginning of
    time telling us that there has been a super Intelligence
    involved in our existence.

    Such as what?  Direct evidence, not indirect evidence.

    I just posted direct evidence above..

    If you can't see it, that tells us you don't want to see it.

    But then that would tell us that you were a fool.

    "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that
     a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as  with
    chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind  forces worth
    speaking about in nature. The numbers one  calculates from the facts
    seem to me so overwhelming as  to put this conclusion almost beyond
    question."                           ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist

    Opinion without supporting fact.

    Rather the conclusion of a scientist after examining the evidence.

    "From my earliest training as a scientist I was very strongly
    brainwashed to believe that science cannot be consistent with any kind
    of deliberate creation. That notion has had to be painfully shed. I am
    quite uncomfortable in this situation, the state of mind I now find
    myself in. But there is no logical way out of it. I now find myself
    driven to this position by logic. There is no other way in which we
    can understand the precise ordering of the chemicals of life except to
    invoke the creations on a cosmic scale. . . We were hoping as
    scientists that there would be a way round our conclusion, but there
    isn't."            ~ Sir Frederick Hoyle and Chandra Wickramsinghe,

    Was Professor Hoyle an atheist?
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 17:49:21 2025
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    On 7/4/2025 5:41 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:13:40 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 9:30 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I see you have trouble with the concept of "if."

    Lol! Doubling down! Big SCORE on the Troll-O-Meter for
    you!

    If Don Pardo was here he'd be announcing your 10 extra
    doses of your meds you just won...

    Was he your boyfriend?

    There's no "If." Abiogenesis has never been observed.

    Neither has your brain.

    Abiogenesis has never been achieved in a laboratory.

    No one expects it to have been. First you need a self-replicating
    entity that can evolve over millions of years from just replication
    to being alive.

    Nobody is "Studying" abiogenesis any more than they are
    "Studying" unicorns.

    No "If."

    It ain't happening.

    If pigs could fly, we'd need better umbrellas. Likewise, if
    abiogenesis was not being studied, you wouldn't have something like
    this:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/05/250528132057.htm

    "Chemists at UCL and the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology have demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might have replicated itself
    on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life."

    So you see how the word "if" works?

    Check & mate!
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 21:05:23 2025
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    On 7/4/25 6:49 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Check & mate!

    First off I need to congratulate you on your courage in
    rubber stamping a fellow node of the collective. Not just
    anyone is brave enough to agree with those you've already
    agreed with since before they spoke.

    Secondly, as you are oh so "Check & mate," can you just
    go ahead and cite some examples of this abiogenesis you
    think you seeing being studied?

    Yeah, just go ahead and cite this abiogenesis here:


    {Crickets chirping}

    Oops! We found an error.

    Well. ANOTHER error...

    And how is it you know how long it takes for abiogenesis to
    occur?

    No? You're just making shit up?

    Exactly.
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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 18:06:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 17:49:21 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 5:41 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:13:40 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 9:30 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I see you have trouble with the concept of "if."

    Lol! Doubling down! Big SCORE on the Troll-O-Meter for
    you!

    If Don Pardo was here he'd be announcing your 10 extra
    doses of your meds you just won...

    Was he your boyfriend?

    There's no "If." Abiogenesis has never been observed.

    Neither has your brain.

    Abiogenesis has never been achieved in a laboratory.

    No one expects it to have been. First you need a self-replicating
    entity that can evolve over millions of years from just replication
    to being alive.

    Nobody is "Studying" abiogenesis any more than they are
    "Studying" unicorns.

    No "If."

    It ain't happening.

    If pigs could fly, we'd need better umbrellas. Likewise, if
    abiogenesis was not being studied, you wouldn't have something like
    this:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/05/250528132057.htm

    "Chemists at UCL and the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology have
    demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might have replicated itself
    on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life."

    So you see how the word "if" works?

    Check & mate!

    I bet you he'll snip that and go back to one of his contentless
    tirades about abiogenesis not being a real subject.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 21:09:56 2025
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    Vincent Maycock wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:13:40 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Abiogenesis has never been achieved in a laboratory.

    No one expects it to have been.

    Really? No one? You took a poll?

    You're just doubling down, making shit up and hoping to covers
    your stupidity (it doesn't).

    First you need a self-replicating
    entity that can evolve over millions of years from just replication
    to being alive.

    Says who? How was this determined? Where did you get this "Millions
    of years" from? What? You made it all up? You're in free fall
    fantasy, unable to distinguish your disorder(s) from reality?

    If pigs could fly, we'd need better umbrellas.

    Great. Still no abiogenesis being studied.

    "Chemists at UCL and the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology have demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might have replicated itself
    on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life."

    What does "might have" mean in your native tongue?

    And how was this determined to be a process?

    Wow. You believe in bullshit and you're too stupid to even know it!

    Wait a minute! You're one of those fake online "atheists," aren't
    you? I can tell.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 21:13:12 2025
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    On 7/4/25 6:42 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:18:04 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Typical narcissist... thinks he's an expert, cherry picks
    what to disputes, does so badly... can't admit to any
    error...

    You narcissistic troll.

    Wow you're as original as you are bright... being neither.

    So abiogenesis is a belief, an article of faith, not a
    fact, the theists have actual evidence for their deity
    plus they know they're operating on faith, unlike you.

    You should get yourself properly medicated and then figure
    out what the word "Evidence" means. It will help you to
    see how you've fucked up so badly up 'til now...
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 21:14:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On 7/4/25 6:44 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 7/2/2025 10:02 PM, JTEM wrote:
      Dawn Flood wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle

    Some explain to Dawn Davenport that Wiki isn't a legitimate
    cite.

    All Wiki is useful for is to establish that you didn't make
    something up. The fact that it's in Wiki in no way excludes
    the probability that it's made up, it just establishes that
    you aren't the one who made it up.

    If you can read, checked the articles CITED BY Wiki. These
    is a chance you will find a legitimate cite supporting a
    claim.

    Then what religion was Professor Hoyle?

    What answer does that diseased mind of yours believe could
    alter the fact that Wiki is not a legitimate cite?
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 21:18:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On 7/4/25 6:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 7/2/2025 3:50 PM, Andrew wrote:

    "From my earliest training as a scientist I was very strongly
    brainwashed to believe that science cannot be consistent with any kind
    of deliberate creation. That notion has had to be painfully shed. I am
    quite uncomfortable in this situation, the state of mind I now find
    myself in. But there is no logical way out of it. I now find myself
    driven to this position by logic. There is no other way in which we
    can understand the precise ordering of the chemicals of life except to
    invoke the creations on a cosmic scale. . . We were hoping as
    scientists that there would be a way round our conclusion, but there
    isn't."            ~ Sir Frederick Hoyle and Chandra Wickramsinghe,

    Was Professor Hoyle an atheist?

    The earth being seeded with life, usually by nature (panspermia) but
    also by aliens, is at least as legitimate as abiogenesis.

    I personally don't find it a very satisfactory answer because life
    would still have an origins, just not here, so it presents more
    questions than it answers. Still, "Not liking" a hypothesis is by no
    means a falsification, and it is AT LEAST as equally valid an idea
    as abiogenesis...
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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 19:53:08 2025
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    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:09:56 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Vincent Maycock wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:13:40 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Abiogenesis has never been achieved in a laboratory.

    No one expects it to have been.

    Really? No one? You took a poll?

    It's just common sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

    "The prevailing scientific hypothesis is that the transition from
    non-living to living entities on Earth was not a single event, but a
    process of increasing complexity involving the formation of a
    habitable planet, the prebiotic synthesis of organic molecules,
    molecular self-replication, self-assembly, autocatalysis, and the
    emergence of cell membranes. "

    You're just doubling down, making shit up and hoping to covers
    your stupidity (it doesn't).

    First you need a self-replicating
    entity that can evolve over millions of years from just replication
    to being alive.

    Says who? How was this determined? Where did you get this "Millions
    of years" from? What? You made it all up? You're in free fall
    fantasy, unable to distinguish your disorder(s) from reality?

    I based that on typical rates of evolution in living replicators. Do
    you have a better estimate?

    If pigs could fly, we'd need better umbrellas.

    Great. Still no abiogenesis being studied.

    Let me just restore the link I quoted from that you deleted, just to
    make sure everything is above board here:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/05/250528132057.htm

    "Chemists at UCL and the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology have
    demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might have replicated itself
    on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life."

    What does "might have" mean in your native tongue?

    It means progress in this instance, obviously.

    And how was this determined to be a process?

    You don't know what a "process" is? First it was the meaning of the
    word "if" that evaded you; now it's the word "process." Maybe you
    shouldn't have gone that far that fast. Like maybe studied the
    meanings of three-letter words rather than seven-letter words.

    Wow. You believe in bullshit and you're too stupid to even know it!

    Wait a minute! You're one of those fake online "atheists," aren't
    you? I can tell.

    The landscape of the human mind, accessible to even trolls like you,
    has *got* to be completely at odds with any major theist belief
    system. So there you go, fake theist.
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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 19:53:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:13:12 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 6:42 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:18:04 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Typical narcissist... thinks he's an expert, cherry picks
    what to disputes, does so badly... can't admit to any
    error...

    You narcissistic troll.

    Wow you're as original as you are bright... being neither.

    It's more a matter of irony than intelligence. I remember you always
    used to praise yourself excessively before people got sick of you and
    drove you away from that kind of trolling, using techniques like
    remarking that no one goes to your fucked up website.

    So abiogenesis is a belief,

    You keep repeating that, but you've failed to convince anyone that
    it's true. Certainly it doesn't follow from anything that preceded
    the above comments.

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 22:57:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On 7/4/25 9:06 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I bet

    Lol! You're a sniveling little coward and intellectual
    gnat! You read my reply FIRST and then stated the above.

    "Idiocy suddenly becomes brilliance if you quote it!"

    You're a narcissist so you need to see yourself quoted.

    I replied directly to you. Idiot.

    Why these emotional spasms? Why not just accept reality?

    As a fake atheist, you don't even have any "Evidence" for
    the existence of atheists, as you won't accept personal
    testimony!

    Theists do have evidence. You may not find it compelling,
    or your massive collection of mental disorders may block
    you from thinking about it (only lashing out) but they
    do have "Evidence."

    The secret here is in the definition of "Evidence," nimrod.

    They have science invoking God, although using a different
    name -- "Observer" or even "Programmer" -- to avoid triggering
    the idiots, and of course they have miracles and medical
    miracles in particular but you have nothing.

    Literally nothing!

    YOU can't even support the existence of atheists, if you
    forget to be a hypocrite and actually abide by your own
    rules....

    You're the furthest thing from "Science."

    You're irrational.
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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Fri Jul 4 21:47:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 22:57:07 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/25 9:06 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:

    I bet

    Lol! You're a sniveling little coward and intellectual
    gnat! You read my reply FIRST and then stated the above.

    "Idiocy suddenly becomes brilliance if you quote it!"

    Welcome to my killfile, you freak.

    You're a narcissist so you need to see yourself quoted.

    I replied directly to you. Idiot.

    Why these emotional spasms? Why not just accept reality?

    As a fake atheist, you don't even have any "Evidence" for
    the existence of atheists, as you won't accept personal
    testimony!

    Theists do have evidence. You may not find it compelling,
    or your massive collection of mental disorders may block
    you from thinking about it (only lashing out) but they
    do have "Evidence."

    The secret here is in the definition of "Evidence," nimrod.

    They have science invoking God, although using a different
    name -- "Observer" or even "Programmer" -- to avoid triggering
    the idiots, and of course they have miracles and medical
    miracles in particular but you have nothing.

    Literally nothing!

    YOU can't even support the existence of atheists, if you
    forget to be a hypocrite and actually abide by your own
    rules....

    You're the furthest thing from "Science."

    You're irrational.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christianity,alt.ufo.reports on Sat Jul 5 02:13:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.paranormal

    Vincent Maycock wrote:

    Welcome to my killfile, you freak.

    Lol! What is it about narcissists announcing their kill
    files?

    And, let's face it, if you had self control you wouldn't
    need a killfile and without self control the killfile is
    just a bother for you... because you're going to be
    reading anyway!

    You. Have. No. Evidence. For. The. Existence. Of. Atheists.

    Not my YOUR OWN STANDARDS!

    YOU claim that self reports, testimony is not evidence,
    despite it being evidence in every court of law on the
    planet, and countless scientific studies.

    Theists have evidence BESIDES self reports!

    You have ZERO because of you substituted your emotional
    problems for thinking, and the theists have evidence!

    THAT is wrong. It SHOULD bother you. You SHOULD want to
    change that.

    Should.
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