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The story of Troy...

They found the city, right?

No. Of course not. They found a city and declared one of the layers
in that archaeology "Troy" but, it's not Troy.

There was never a Trojan War.

First off, people had been "Finding" and identifying "Troy" for more
than a century... elsewhere. And the man credited with finally
closing the books on the popular location today was Heinrich
Schliemann, a rich fraud. The moment he decided to put a shovel in
the ground it was guaranteed he was either going to find something
and call it Troy, or he was going to manufacture it...

The Trojan War is based on the far more ancient tale of the siege
of Joppa, under Thutmose III. This, in turn, is denounced by many
to be as fictional as the later Greek retelling/renaming. Some
have even argued that Joppa was recycled from an earlier tale
exactly as Troy was...

What's even more fascinating is that there's a similar case with
Romeo and Juliet. There were contemporary versions floating
around -- contemporary to Shakespeare & company. And the whole
damn thing was based on the ancient story of Pyramus and Thisbe.
But, between it and Shakespeare were numerous other "Child"
works... and some even claim that Pyramus and Thisbe was itself
based on earlier tales. But...

But it's Troy and the Trojan War that draws the strongest parallels
to the bible. After all, it includes gods & magic yet people STILL
see it as true!

"Everything old is new again"

It's a myth. It's not real.
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On 9/30/2025 5:51 AM, JTEM wrote:

The story of Troy...

They found the city, right?

No. Of course not. They found a city and declared one of the layers
in that archaeology "Troy" but, it's not Troy.

There was never a Trojan War.

First off, people had been "Finding" and identifying "Troy" for more
than a century... elsewhere. And the man credited with finally
closing the books on the popular location today was Heinrich
Schliemann, a rich fraud. The moment he decided to put a shovel in
the ground it was guaranteed he was either going to find something
and call it Troy, or he was going to manufacture it...

The Trojan War is based on the far more ancient tale of the siege
of Joppa, under Thutmose III. This, in turn, is denounced by many
to be as fictional as the later Greek retelling/renaming. Some
have even argued that Joppa was recycled from an earlier tale
exactly as Troy was...

What's even more fascinating is that there's a similar case with
Romeo and Juliet. There were contemporary versions floating
around -- contemporary to Shakespeare & company. And the whole
damn thing was based on the ancient story of Pyramus and Thisbe.
But, between it and Shakespeare were numerous other "Child"
works... and some even claim that Pyramus and Thisbe was itself
based on earlier tales. But...

But it's Troy and the Trojan War that draws the strongest parallels
to the bible. After all, it includes gods & magic yet people STILL
see it as true!

"Everything old is new again"

It's a myth. It's not real.

Why don't you just read the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_War

If you disagree with what's there, then post comments on the Talk page
before having the edit war.
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On 9/30/25 1:46 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

Why don't you just read the Wikipedia article:

Wiki isn't a cite. And the fact that you don't know
this is hilarious.

Out of curiosity, and I mean amusement, what in particular
did you attempt to verify?

Schliemann's dishonesty?

All the other "Troys" identified?

The Siege of Joppa?

Lol! More like "None of the above."
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On 9/30/2025 2:58 PM, JTEM wrote:

On 9/30/25 1:46 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

Why don't you just read the Wikipedia article:

Wiki isn't a cite. And the fact that you don't know
this is hilarious.

Out of curiosity, and I mean amusement, what in particular
did you attempt to verify?

Schliemann's dishonesty?

All the other "Troys" identified?

The Siege of Joppa?

Lol! More like "None of the above."

Can you point to a single scholar who has *cited* ANYTHING that you have written??
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On 9/30/25 4:04 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

Can you

Schliemann's dishonesty?

All the other "Troys" identified?

The Siege of Joppa?

Did you verify any of these things? What does that diseased excuse
for a mind make of them?

Could you once -- even ONCE -- not prove that you're a fucking idiot?

THIS IS A DISCUSSION GROUP. You clearly don't want to discuss anything,
you're incapable of deconstructing issues/problems, identifying critical points, even figuring out WHAT a test might be, let alone apply one...

If YOU have a position, present it. if YOU are incapable of anything but regurgitating what you think some authority says, then regurgitate.
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