• HDD Woes

    From Jim@jcm_spectrum@spectrum.net to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 12:16:29 2025
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    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in
    June, 2017. If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed
    scan of the label.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned. I rediscovered
    it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and
    could not be used for a computer". That statement never made sense to
    me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't
    recognize it. I ran GParted, just in case it did something different.
    No joy.

    FWIW, my desktop is running LM 21.3 Cinnamon.

    Before I toss the HDD, I thought I'd ask for either a better explanation
    as to why I'll never get it to work, or for the proper steps to take to
    make it work.

    Thanks, jim.

    P.S. My post failed (probably because of the attachment). Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 19:18:47 2025
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    On 27/09/2025 18:16, Jim wrote:
    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in
    June, 2017. If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed
    scan of the label.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned. I rediscovered
    it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and
    could not be used for a computer". That statement never made sense to
    me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't
    recognize it. I ran GParted, just in case it did something different.
    No joy.

    FWIW, my desktop is running LM 21.3 Cinnamon.

    Before I toss the HDD, I thought I'd ask for either a better explanation
    as to why I'll never get it to work, or for the proper steps to take to
    make it work.

    Thanks, jim.

    P.S. My post failed (probably because of the attachment). Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.

    Anything useful here? <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=207034&sid=9a284b01759d8bc980be7739cf165ea9#p207034>
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    Jeff
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 12:18:48 2025
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    Jim wrote:
    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in
    June, 2017.-a If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed scan of the label.

    e-s won't allow your binary attachment. You would have to upload that
    to a site like https://imgbb.com/ and post your link into a msg.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned.-a I rediscovered
    it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    I find a similarly numbered 8TB Ultrastar

    HGST Ultrastar He8 | HUH728080ALE600 | 0F23267 | 8TB 7200 RPM 128MB
    Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Inch | 512e | Instant Secure Erase | Helium
    Platform Hard Disk Drive HDD

    But yours is HUG. I can't find any of those.

    Here's a WD spec sheet on their HGST He8: https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-sas-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-he8.pdf

    ... but they name only HUH, not HUG drives. They do mention that the H
    is for helium and S would be for 'standard'.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and
    could not be used for a computer".-a That statement never made sense to
    me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't
    recognize it.-a I ran GParted, just in case it did something different.
    No joy.

    I found a lot of troubleshooting suggestions ranging from trying
    multiple USB ports to commands. The first thing is to figure out if the
    drive is spinning or not by the feel. There is concern that the USB may
    not be delivering enough power, so there is also a suggestion about a
    powered USB hub.
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    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 12:27:51 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    There is concern that the USB may not be delivering enough power, so
    there is also a suggestion about a powered USB hub.

    I have a USB caddy for an optical that uses *2* usb plugs to get some
    extra power. My USB external hdd has its own separate power source.

    Here are some suggested commands if the drive is spinning:

    lsblk
    sudo fdisk -l
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    Mike Easter
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  • From Jim@jcm_spectrum@spectrum.net to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 15:06:42 2025
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    On 9/27/25 13:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

    Anything useful here?
    <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php? p=207034&sid=9a284b01759d8bc980be7739cf165ea9#p207034>



    Thanks for the link.

    Nothing useful as far a I can tell. It all seems to be about HDDs with
    the IDE interface. Nothing that I can see related to HDDs with the SATA interface.

    -jim
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  • From Jim@jcm_spectrum@spectrum.net to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 15:10:37 2025
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    https://ibb.co/CKLqcJHc


    On 9/27/25 12:16, Jim wrote:



    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in
    June, 2017.-a If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed scan of the label.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned.-a I rediscovered
    it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and
    could not be used for a computer".-a That statement never made sense to
    me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't
    recognize it.-a I ran GParted, just in case it did something different.
    No joy.

    FWIW, my desktop is running LM 21.3 Cinnamon.

    Before I toss the HDD, I thought I'd ask for either a better explanation
    as to why I'll never get it to work, or for the proper steps to take to
    make it work.

    Thanks, jim.

    P.S.-a My post failed (probably because of the attachment).-a Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.

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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 13:23:13 2025
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    Jim wrote:

    https://ibb.co/CKLqcJHc

    It /is/ WD's HUH (helium) that I described and showed the WD spec.

    The www.hgst.com link has a bad cert, but it 'belongs' to WD.

    I say be sure it is spinning, if it isn't, I would suspect the 'package'
    of hdd vs USB power that needs to be 'sorted out'. Does that USB
    enclosure work w/ another hdd?
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    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 13:52:11 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Jim wrote:

    https://ibb.co/CKLqcJHc

    It /is/ WD's HUH (helium) that I described and showed the WD spec.

    The www.hgst.com link has a bad cert, but it 'belongs' to WD.

    I say be sure it is spinning, if it isn't, I would suspect the 'package'
    of hdd vs USB power that needs to be 'sorted out'.-a Does that USB
    enclosure work w/ another hdd?

    I don't know what you have to work w/. I consider an 8TB hdd to have
    value if it is working, so it would be worth 'messing w/'.

    The other approach, besides having a 'good' external USB housing w/ a
    decent power supply, would be if you are trying to hook it up to a
    desktop computer in a case w/ a PS and hdd mobo connectors.

    Could you give us a description of whatever is that USB enclosure
    features and what kind of computer (laptop/desktop) you are trying to
    access the hdd w/?
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    Mike Easter
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 17:42:56 2025
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    On Sat, 9/27/2025 1:16 PM, Jim wrote:
    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in June, 2017.-a If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed scan of the label.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned.-a I rediscovered it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and could not be used for a computer".-a That statement never made sense to me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't recognize it.-a I ran GParted, just in case it did something different. No joy.

    FWIW, my desktop is running LM 21.3 Cinnamon.

    Before I toss the HDD, I thought I'd ask for either a better explanation as to why I'll never get it to work, or for the proper steps to take to make it work.

    Thanks, jim.

    P.S.-a My post failed (probably because of the attachment).-a Someone please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.

    Hitachi Ultrastar He8 0F23662 / HUH728080ALN600 8TB 6Gbps 7.2K

    *4Kn* <===

    Enterprise SATA HDD - Brand New

    *******

    Name LogicalSize PhysicalSize Comment (sudo fdisk /dev/sda can report logical and physical... on a "p" for print, "q" for quit)

    512n 512 512 Not many made any more, the original disk format
    I have somw WDRe and WDGold like this.

    512e 512 4096 Most common consumer drive, may see "Advanced" on label.
    RAM cache now really works on these drives, and is used
    for RMW operations to "edit" a 512 byte section of a 4K sector

    4Kn 4096 4096 These are evil, in that there aren't as many tools to work
    with these. As a boot drive, should work under UEFI boot
    (secure or not secure). As a Data Drive, should work past
    Linux kernel 2.6 . It is unclear to me, what an MBR looks like
    on a disk like this. Test on a UEFI motherboard and seek an
    opinion in the BIOS screen, as to whether it is detected
    at BIOS level. In a steeplechase, you jump over one hurdle
    at a time. First you use the BIOS, to prove it runs. Stick your
    ear on it and listen for "hum" or "burble" as it self-tests.
    The "burble" means at least the heads loaded. Hitachi drives
    are ready around the 25 second mark (take sweet time on spinup).

    For a short time, 4Kn drives were sold on Newegg. The rate
    of return was high enough, to make Newegg think twice about
    stocking those :-) I have been tempted on occasion, to buy
    something like that, just for compatibility testing, but
    never got around to it.

    Pseudo-4K USB enclosures, a few exist. I do not remember the
    details, except that the drive was reporting LogicalSize of 4K,
    for a 512e drive. Something like that.

    I have a suspicion the average USB3 enclosure, may not
    like that drive either (when doing physical access, and
    not "faking it" like in the previous paragraph. Unless specifically
    stated that an enclosure supports 4Kn, there is no reason to assume
    every USB works with absolutely every drive type. A USB3 enclosure
    should always work with 512n and 512e.

    And 512 sector drives are not the only type. IBM used
    to make some weird sector sizes, a bit bigger than 512.
    And as far as I'm concerned, if that was added to the
    table above, it would earn a "more evil than 4Kn" rating :-)
    I do not recollect any postings at all from USENETTers in
    possession of something that bad (likely IDE drive era).

    The Wikipedia could be a useful resource at this time,
    like the 4Kn article.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format

    Looks like UEFI gets honorable mention as an ingredient for boot.

    I don't see a reason you can't have fun with it, but first
    we have to ignore the OS choice and concentrate on BIOS response.

    If the (UEFI!) BIOS refuses to list the drive ("detection" phase),
    then you're screwed. Helium drives can hold their helium
    for a long time, but the warranty is typically five years.
    The Helioseal is implemented as an adhesive. It is a
    kind of double-sided tape that prevents the helium from
    leaving. The welded lid on top is NOT a gas-tight seal.
    It is the selected adhesive on the *first* lid that
    holds the gas in. The welded lid prevents the adhesive lid
    from popping off. The welded lid also provides some
    mechanical protection. I do not recommend stacking Helium
    drives in your storage cabinet, to any significant height.
    That can't be good for those lids.

    Some helium drives have a manometer, and SMART has a
    pressure reading, but nobody has parsing software that works
    properly to display anything about the health of the gas fill.
    We don't know what the numbers mean.
    Other drives, the SMART for gas pressure is unknown.

    I own one Helium drive. It's part of my "sampling garbage" program :-)
    It's to see how long the gas will stay in one of those. My
    "sampling program" though, has not purchased a 4Kn for fun,
    as I found too many aggrieved customers to attempt that.

    It's sorta the same response with mixing SATA and SAS.
    Many things are supposed to work, but a lot of the
    home experimenters return their purchase. The data rates
    achieved seem to be sub-normal, when you can get that
    combo to work.

    Computers are like the Wizard of Oz. You're always
    wishing you were back in Kansas with your little dog.
    You can consult with us anytime, you want some help
    determining "good" from "evil" :-) And since my sampling
    program has not bought one of these, you can see
    what the marginal utility of the purchase could be.

    Don't throw it away. We need experimenters like you to
    sample these things and tell us what you finally got
    to work with the thing. BIOS listing, is the first step.
    Use a reasonably modern motherboard (less than ten years old).

    Paul
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Sep 28 03:02:32 2025
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    On Sat, 9/27/2025 5:42 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 9/27/2025 1:16 PM, Jim wrote:


    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't recognize it.

    Use a reasonably modern motherboard (less than ten years old).


    I am referring to using a desktop computer system SATA port.

    And connecting the 8TB 4Kn Hitachi to the SATA port. That's how you will detect it.
    It's almost certain to not work on a USB to SATA adapter. I've got
    nothing here in the USB category that can do that for a 4Kn. I bet
    they exist, but you'll have to Google to find one. You don't
    get that capability in all the USB to SATA adapters, just a few.

    A USB device, it uses things like an 8 bit processor and a firmware,
    and that firmware carries out analysis of the info coming back from
    the drive. If there are anomalies showing there (4Kn when it was only
    expecting 512n or 512e), then the firmware won't know what to do.

    Even the UEFI BIOS on a desktop system motherboard is easily confused. I
    own a single Seagate 4TB drive (512e), that if you install an OS on it,
    it causes the UEFI motherboard BIOS to hang at POST. According
    to a thread I could find, there is a particular kind of query for
    the drive, that is fails to answer. It's the kind of thing,
    that Seagate should have issued a new firmware for the hard
    drive, so that it would be ATA compliant. But as near as I
    can tell, that is a first gen model of that particular
    drive design, and some later models in the same series got
    firmware fixes for something else. Just my luck. If I make
    the drive GPT and just put a data partition on it, then it
    does not hang the UEFI BIOS, but a data-only drive is a bore.

    Paul


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  • From Jim@jcm_spectrum@spectrum.net to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Sep 28 10:48:46 2025
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    First, thanks to all that are helping me.

    Second, answers to pertinent questions...

    1) HDD Caddy: the one I've been using is a Sabrent Model Number:
    EC_ECDFLT with a 2000mA wall wart (external) power supply. It has
    worked successfully for 25+ different hard drives.

    2) HDD spinning: Yes, it spins. I can both hear it spin and feel it. Related: also, I can hear a subtle click (possibly the heads unparking).
    I know someone out there is thinking click-of-death. I know the click-of-death sound from prior experience. This is not that, and is
    much much quieter. Also it only happens two or possibly three times.

    3) HDD Computer: Knowing and appreciating distrust of extra links, I
    plugged the HDD into a dell Optiplex 740 I had sitting around.
    Observations:
    a) The clicking I mentioned in #2 sounds/feels more like a bump.
    b) The click/bump happened for exactly 7 times FWIW.
    c) The BIOS didn't recognize the drive. Not only that, the drive
    crashed the bios when I went to see what specs the BIOS was able to
    read. The BIOS performed fine with no HDDs attached. The BIOS
    performed fine with a known good HDD attached.


    Paul a) Thanks for all the info and links. The Wikipedia article looks interesting, but I didn't really understand it at first skim and have
    other obligations soon. Hope to read it in detail this evening.
    Paul b) I've never had/owned a helium drive before and didn't realize
    that was what i had.
    Paul c) I guess that Optiplex is probably too old to be a "reasonably
    modern motherboard." :) I'll have to look at some of my other computers
    to see how old they are. I generally ignore the age if it seems to be
    working adequately. :(


    Next steps ?


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Sep 28 14:54:02 2025
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    On Sun, 9/28/2025 11:48 AM, Jim wrote:

    First, thanks to all that are helping me.

    Second, answers to pertinent questions...

    1) HDD Caddy: the one I've been using is a Sabrent Model Number: EC_ECDFLT with a 2000mA wall wart (external) power supply.-a It has worked successfully for 25+ different hard drives.

    2) HDD spinning:-a Yes, it spins.-a I can both hear it spin and feel it. Related: also, I can hear a subtle click (possibly the heads unparking). -aI know someone out there is thinking click-of-death.-a I know the click-of-death sound from prior experience.-a This is not that, and is much much quieter.-a Also it only happens two or possibly three times.

    3) HDD Computer: Knowing and appreciating distrust of extra links, I plugged the HDD into a dell Optiplex 740 I had sitting around. Observations:
    -a a) The clicking I mentioned in #2 sounds/feels more like a bump.
    -a b) The click/bump happened for exactly 7 times FWIW.
    -a c) The BIOS didn't recognize the drive.-a Not only that, the drive crashed the bios when I went to see what specs the BIOS was able to read.-a The BIOS performed fine with no HDDs attached.-a The BIOS performed fine with a known good HDD attached.


    Paul a) Thanks for all the info and links.-a The Wikipedia article looks interesting, but I didn't really understand it at first skim and have other obligations soon.-a Hope to read it in detail this evening.
    Paul b) I've never had/owned a helium drive before and didn't realize that was what i had.
    Paul c) I guess that Optiplex is probably too old to be a "reasonably modern motherboard." :)-a I'll have to look at some of my other computers to see how old they are.-a I generally ignore the age if it seems to be working adequately. :(


    Next steps ?

    Do you have access to any other desktop motherboards with SATA ?

    A quick Google for the right kind of USB enclosure is getting me nowhere.

    The thing is, there are few remaining choices for USB to SATA adapter chips. Some of the weird chip choices back in the WinXP era, are likely no longer
    in production. And they would only have given you a headache in any case.

    A lot of the enclosures use Asmedia (chip making company at Asus).
    There might be a few JMicron. I don't know if there are a lot of
    obscure Chinese chip choices for this.

    Just stick with motherboards and their SATA ports, and that will prepare
    the drive in the "normal" way (no emulation screwups). That's about the
    most I can offer.

    I think my ten year old machine, would handle your drive just fine,
    and the ten year old machine runs sufficient OSes to work and interwork
    with the drive. Any of the machines (that are still alive) and older
    than ten years, in my collection, won't work.

    My Optiplex 780 with Q45 Southbridge and Core2 processor, it does not
    look like the BIOS on that is UEFI, so unlikely to tolerate a 4Kn drive.

    *******

    I could drive to my computer store, go to the Support desk (where they
    build computers up from parts), and ask the guy to pop the disk into
    one of their technician machines, and do a quick check on it. But that
    would cost something, and the thing is, this drive is only worth rescuing
    as a DIY project. I wouldn't sink another dime in the thing, via
    getting help at the computer store.

    And the staff are unlikely to have a clue about "do you have any USB
    enclosures that support 4Kn?". My guess is they don't have any. If an
    enclosure had such a feature, it would be proudly displayed in the advert.

    I suspect some NAS boxes *might* support such drives. But NAS boxes
    with BYOD features (sold as empty NAS boxes), they cost hundreds and considering the NAS investment, you'd just be buying new drives to
    stuff in it. And buying an old/used NAS box would also be sketchy
    for the project, if it was... too old. There are probably NAS boxes
    out there, with IDE ribbon cables inside them, that someone wants
    a few bucks for. That would be no good.

    1) Put it back in storage.
    2) When the right motherboard shows up some day, give it a test.
    It is unlikely to be much fun, and mostly aggravation, until
    the right equipment for it shows up.

    Paul
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 20:45:11 2025
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    On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 15:10:37 -0500
    Jim <jcm_spectrum@spectrum.net> wrote:

    https://ibb.co/CKLqcJHc


    On 9/27/25 12:16, Jim wrote:



    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in June, 2017.a If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed scan of the label.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned.a I rediscovered
    it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and could not be used for a computer".a That statement never made sense to
    me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't
    recognize it.a I ran GParted, just in case it did something different.
    No joy.

    FWIW, my desktop is running LM 21.3 Cinnamon.

    Before I toss the HDD, I thought I'd ask for either a better explanation as to why I'll never get it to work, or for the proper steps to take to make it work.

    Thanks, jim.

    P.S.a My post failed (probably because of the attachment).a Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.

    I have taken to using Dropbox for several months.
    For light use it is free. It comes up on Synaptic.
    You upload your pictures to DB and then create link which you publish to whom you want.
    HTH
    Alan
    --
    Linux Mint 22.1 kernel version 6.8.0-51-generic Cinnamon 6.4.8
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700, Radeon RX 6600, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, 2TB Barracuda
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 16:03:39 2025
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    On 9/27/25 1:16 PM, Jim wrote:

    P.S. My post failed (probably because of the attachment). Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.
    https://postimages.org/ is free, just takes a login.
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2, Thunderbird 128.14.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 143.0.1
    Alan K.
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 16:05:02 2025
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    On 9/29/25 3:45 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 15:10:37 -0500
    Jim <jcm_spectrum@spectrum.net> wrote:


    https://ibb.co/CKLqcJHc


    On 9/27/25 12:16, Jim wrote:



    Quite a few years I purchased a white label HDD from an eBay seller.

    It was an HGST 8TB (model HUG728080ALN600 -- guessing) manufactured in
    June, 2017.-a If the attachment to this post worked out, it is a flatbed >>> scan of the label.

    Anyway, I never could get it formatted and partitioned.-a I rediscovered >>> it yesterday while cleaning and organizing a closet.

    From what I recall, this drive was "built for video surveillance and
    could not be used for a computer".-a That statement never made sense to
    me and I've never had similar problems with other hard drives.

    When I plugged it into my SATA-->USB caddy, just now, LM didn't
    recognize it.-a I ran GParted, just in case it did something different.
    No joy.

    FWIW, my desktop is running LM 21.3 Cinnamon.

    Before I toss the HDD, I thought I'd ask for either a better explanation >>> as to why I'll never get it to work, or for the proper steps to take to
    make it work.

    Thanks, jim.

    P.S.-a My post failed (probably because of the attachment).-a Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.


    I have taken to using Dropbox for several months.
    For light use it is free. It comes up on Synaptic.
    You upload your pictures to DB and then create link which you publish to whom you want.

    HTH

    Alan
    Dropbox shows in synaptic. I thought synaptic was just for installing software?
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2, Thunderbird 128.14.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 143.0.1
    Alan K.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 13:29:20 2025
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    Alan K. wrote:
    I thought synaptic was just for installing software?

    Sez:

    Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and
    videos anywhere and share them easily.

    This package provides a command-line tool and a Nautilus extension
    that integrates the Dropbox web service with your GNOME Desktop.

    There are also caja-dropbox, nemo-dropbox, besides nautilus-dropbox

    Nemo Dropbox is an extension that integrates the Dropbox web service with your Cinnamon Desktop.

    Caja Dropbox is an extension that integrates the Dropbox web service with your MATE Desktop.

    To use this package you need to install the proprietary dropbox package
    from https://www.dropbox.com/install.
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    Mike Easter
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 17:24:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 9/29/25 4:29 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
    Alan K. wrote:
    I thought synaptic was just for installing software?

    Sez:

    Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and
    videos anywhere and share them easily.

    This package provides a command-line tool and a Nautilus extension
    that integrates the Dropbox web service with your GNOME Desktop.

    There are also caja-dropbox, nemo-dropbox, besides nautilus-dropbox

    Nemo Dropbox is an extension that integrates the Dropbox web service with
    your Cinnamon Desktop.

    Caja Dropbox is an extension that integrates the Dropbox web service with
    your MATE Desktop.

    To use this package you need to install the proprietary dropbox package
    from https://www.dropbox.com/install.




    Sorry, I flat out didn't get your comment. Of course dropbox is in synaptic. Something had me thinking the implication was you got synaptic to interface to dropbox
    itself. I just couldn't connect those dots. (duh), Senior moment.
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    Alan K.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 21:45:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Mon, 9/29/2025 4:03 PM, Alan K. wrote:
    On 9/27/25 1:16 PM, Jim wrote:

    P.S.-a My post failed (probably because of the attachment).-a Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.

    https://postimages.org/ is free, just takes a login.


    It works without an account.

    It was partially non-functional earlier today (half way through
    analyzing your uploaded picture, it stopped dead).

    Don't put any Disney characters or Mickey Mouse in your
    pictures, as it has a Hollywood-style filter for content
    analysis. I think that was a more recent addition to the site.

    The site uses $30,000 for bandwidth per month, to give you
    some idea how busy the site is. This was noted on a text prompt
    that appeared on the web page for a while. the impression left,
    was that the owner of the postimage, had rented server space
    and the server happened to come with "unlimited bandwidth". That is,
    until the owner of the COLO discovered just how much bandwidth
    the web site was using, and postimage got slapped with a big bill
    (even though the rental had "unlimited" bandwidth). There was some
    mild disagreement between the two parties about what was
    reasonable network usage.

    For the recipients of the pictures, there is a "Download Original"
    button at the top of the visited web page, allowing you to get
    the full-resolution version of the image.

    Paul
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Sep 30 08:29:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 29/09/2025 20:45, pinnerite wrote:

    P.S.-a My post failed (probably because of the attachment).-a Someone
    please remind me where to put pictures and how to link to to them.


    I have taken to using Dropbox for several months.
    For light use it is free. It comes up on Synaptic.
    You upload your pictures to DB and then create link which you publish to whom you want.

    I use <https://imgbb.com/> to make images accessible. It's free for
    limited use and doesn't even require an email address.
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    Jeff
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Oct 3 00:23:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 14:54:02 -0400, Paul wrote:

    And the staff are unlikely to have a clue about "do you have any USB enclosures that support 4Kn?".

    If yourCOd said rCL4K sectorsrCY, I would have understood.
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