• 2nd Monitor problem

    From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Sep 25 22:14:14 2025
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    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Sep 25 14:27:15 2025
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    pinnerite wrote:
    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    :-) that's too many emotions :-)

    what-thuh ?!

    Or, maybe it is all in the punctuation viz interrobang varieties; I
    guess surprise delight consternation would be !!?
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Sep 25 14:50:24 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    interrobang varieties

    I don't claim to have 'invented' the interrobang rC+ (U+203D), but apply
    some of its usenet ascii varieties. :-)
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Sep 25 20:30:02 2025
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    On Thu, 9/25/2025 5:14 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan


    xrandr --query
    xrandr --listactivemonitors

    readedit ... | parseedid

    Paul
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Sep 25 23:18:45 2025
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    On Thu, 9/25/2025 8:30 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 9/25/2025 5:14 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan


    xrandr --query
    xrandr --listactivemonitors

    readedit ... | parseedid

    Paul


    That should be readEDID. As the EDID serial interface on a monitor,
    declares the resolution choices of that monitor, and being able
    to read the EDID, proves it is connected.

    Paul
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Sep 26 12:11:52 2025
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    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 23:18:45 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 9/25/2025 8:30 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 9/25/2025 5:14 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan


    xrandr --query
    xrandr --listactivemonitors

    readedit ... | parseedid

    Paul


    That should be readEDID. As the EDID serial interface on a monitor,
    declares the resolution choices of that monitor, and being able
    to read the EDID, proves it is connected.

    Paul

    $ xrandr --query
    Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 4096 x 4096
    None-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm

    $ xrandr --listactivemonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*None-1 1920/508x1080/286+0+0 None-1

    alan@lakeland:~$ readEDID ... | parseedid
    readEDID: command not found
    Command 'parseedid' not found, did you mean:
    command 'parse-edid' from deb read-edid (3.0.2-1.1)
    Try: sudo apt install <deb name>
    $

    As you can see, completely useless in this situation.
    I will need to dig deeper, as Google's AI frequently says.

    Alan
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Sep 26 14:17:20 2025
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    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 22:14:14 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan

    Well, after a morning of faffing about, ChatGPT came up with a "successfull" result.
    Here is its advice:

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7q3vu9tu9sixvpd75tvtv/Steps_for_2nd_monitor.pdf?rlkey=mitrs0uf8pih1oye8zf1gaqph&st=7c44vnss&dl=0

    However!

    My system has a 2TB NVMe and a 2TB hard drive.
    When I rebooted what came up puzzled me.
    I couldn't find the notes that I had saved prior to reboot.
    The answer was it had booted off the hard-drive.
    The data was intact but on the NVMe.
    Several desktop icons were missing too but these things are easy to fix.
    It looks like the origibal problem arose from something dodgy in an update.

    Thanks for the suggestions,
    Alan


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Sep 26 12:45:25 2025
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    On Fri, 9/26/2025 9:17 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 22:14:14 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan

    Well, after a morning of faffing about, ChatGPT came up with a "successfull" result.
    Here is its advice:

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7q3vu9tu9sixvpd75tvtv/Steps_for_2nd_monitor.pdf?rlkey=mitrs0uf8pih1oye8zf1gaqph&st=7c44vnss&dl=0

    However!

    My system has a 2TB NVMe and a 2TB hard drive.
    When I rebooted what came up puzzled me.
    I couldn't find the notes that I had saved prior to reboot.
    The answer was it had booted off the hard-drive.
    The data was intact but on the NVMe.
    Several desktop icons were missing too but these things are easy to fix.
    It looks like the origibal problem arose from something dodgy in an update.

    Thanks for the suggestions,
    Alan


    --
    Linux Mint 22.1 kernel version 6.8.0-84-generic Cinnamon 6.4.8
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700, Radeon RX 6600, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, 2TB Barracuda

    You know the None-1 is not normal.

    0: +*None-1 1920/508x1080/286+0+0 None-1

    On the machine across the way running Linux Mint, there is a video card
    with three connectors. DVI, HDMI, DP++ . The 1920x1080 monitor over
    there is connected via the HDMI.

    bullwinkle@LM222CINN:~$ xrandr --query
    Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
    DVI-D-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    HDMI-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 527mm x 296mm
    1920x1080 74.97*+ 74.97 60.00 50.00 59.94
    1920x1080i 60.00 50.00 59.94
    1680x1050 74.97 59.88
    1400x1050 74.97
    1600x900 74.97
    1280x1024 74.97 60.02
    1440x900 59.90
    1400x900 74.97
    1280x960 74.97
    1368x768 74.97
    1280x800 74.97 59.91
    1152x864 75.00 74.97
    1280x720 74.97 60.00 50.00 59.94
    1024x768 74.97 70.07 60.00
    960x720 74.97
    ...
    800x600 74.97 60.32 56.25
    840x525 74.97
    864x486 74.97
    720x576 50.00
    700x525 74.97
    800x450 74.97
    720x480 60.00 59.94
    640x512 74.97
    700x450 74.97
    640x480 74.97 66.67 60.00 59.94
    720x405 74.97
    ...
    320x180 74.97
    DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

    bullwinkle@LM222CINN:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*HDMI-1 1920/527x1080/296+0+0 HDMI-1 <=== It's not "NONE" on my hardware!
    bullwinkle@LM222CINN:~$

    The connector type on the video card, should be printed in that string.

    Paul
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Sep 26 20:55:45 2025
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    I started with a Mint 22.1 system, that yesterday was running two
    screens perfectly.

    This morning only one was recognised.

    I have spent the whole day following what seemed to be logical
    instructions from ChatGPT, constantly hitting brick walls, followed by
    "Ah - I can see the problem ... "

    At the end of the day I can only get into the system by getting to the
    Boot Menu and selecting the install flash drive but opening up in the
    correct home page.

    Still only one screen and that one over scanned!

    The desktop icons have had to be reduced from small to smaller.

    sudo modprobe -n -v amdgpu
    [sudo] password for alan:
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/display/drm_display_helper.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm.ko.zst insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_ttm_helper.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_suballoc_helper.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_buddy.ko.zst insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/scheduler/gpu-sched.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_exec.ko.zst insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdxcp/amdxcp.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko.zst
    exp_hw_support=1

    That suggests the amdgpu modules are loaded.

    The bootloader is correctly set for EFI.

    I once had a charming Singaporean assistant in the days before
    microcomputers. We used to key in transactions and their codes which
    later became converted to paper tape. This later was transported to a
    mainframe data centre, later returning along with a fan-folded prinout.

    The problem was that he and his colleagues were forever hitting the
    wrong keys and jamming the punch. I got over that by removing the
    "naughty" keys and Sellotaping over the holes. Yet because of ther
    amount of pounding the ke=yboard received, keys still jammed it.

    My You friend said "Mr A" machine work hard very tired. Maybe should
    rest.

    Which is what I am going to do now.

    Alan
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    Linux Mint 22.1 kernel version 6.8.0-84-generic Cinnamon 6.4.8
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700, Radeon RX 6600, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, 2TB Barracuda
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Sep 26 17:59:30 2025
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    On Fri, 9/26/2025 3:55 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I started with a Mint 22.1 system, that yesterday was running two
    screens perfectly.

    This morning only one was recognised.

    I have spent the whole day following what seemed to be logical
    instructions from ChatGPT, constantly hitting brick walls, followed by
    "Ah - I can see the problem ... "

    At the end of the day I can only get into the system by getting to the
    Boot Menu and selecting the install flash drive but opening up in the
    correct home page.

    Still only one screen and that one over scanned!

    The desktop icons have had to be reduced from small to smaller.

    sudo modprobe -n -v amdgpu
    [sudo] password for alan:
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/display/drm_display_helper.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm.ko.zst insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_ttm_helper.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_suballoc_helper.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_buddy.ko.zst insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/scheduler/gpu-sched.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_exec.ko.zst insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdxcp/amdxcp.ko.zst
    insmod /lib/modules/6.8.0-84-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko.zst
    exp_hw_support=1

    That suggests the amdgpu modules are loaded.

    The bootloader is correctly set for EFI.

    I once had a charming Singaporean assistant in the days before microcomputers. We used to key in transactions and their codes which
    later became converted to paper tape. This later was transported to a mainframe data centre, later returning along with a fan-folded prinout.

    The problem was that he and his colleagues were forever hitting the
    wrong keys and jamming the punch. I got over that by removing the
    "naughty" keys and Sellotaping over the holes. Yet because of ther
    amount of pounding the ke=yboard received, keys still jammed it.

    My You friend said "Mr A" machine work hard very tired. Maybe should
    rest.

    Which is what I am going to do now.

    Alan

    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able
    to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    Paul


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Sep 26 18:14:23 2025
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    On Fri, 9/26/2025 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:


    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able
    to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    And Wayland would be a different matter. (Pure Wayland needs a different tool.)

    But you could be using an X11 server via XWayland compatibility interface on Wayland.

    System:
    Host: CHARGER Kernel: 6.8.0-84-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.2 Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara

    Graphics:
    Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
    loaded: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx
    resolution: 1440x900~60Hz

    bullwinkle@CHARGER:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*Virtual1 1440/381x900/238+0+0 Virtual1

    Paul


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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 13:00:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:14:23 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 9/26/2025 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:


    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able
    to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    And Wayland would be a different matter. (Pure Wayland needs a different tool.)

    But you could be using an X11 server via XWayland compatibility interface on Wayland.

    System:
    Host: CHARGER Kernel: 6.8.0-84-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.2 Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara

    Graphics:
    Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
    loaded: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx
    resolution: 1440x900~60Hz

    bullwinkle@CHARGER:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*Virtual1 1440/381x900/238+0+0 Virtual1

    Paul


    xrandr --listmonitors only lists one monitor.

    Alan
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 09:59:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 9/27/2025 8:00 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:14:23 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 9/26/2025 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:


    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able
    to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    And Wayland would be a different matter. (Pure Wayland needs a different tool.)

    But you could be using an X11 server via XWayland compatibility interface on Wayland.

    System:
    Host: CHARGER Kernel: 6.8.0-84-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.2 Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara

    Graphics:
    Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X: >> loaded: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx >> resolution: 1440x900~60Hz

    bullwinkle@CHARGER:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*Virtual1 1440/381x900/238+0+0 Virtual1

    Paul


    xrandr --listmonitors only lists one monitor.

    Alan


    There is a driver not loaded in this report (due to Secure Boot or something). But the None-1 mapping is the breadcrumb. Some aspect of the driver is
    not working properly. The trick then, is to get your AI to recognize
    the pattern of brokenness, in the detailed INXI output :-)

    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=443254

    LANG=C inxi -Fxxxrzc0 --usb # More details

    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
    loaded: amdgpu,modesetting,nouveau unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: swrast
    gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
    Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
    Monitor-1: Unknown-1 mapped: None-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 size: N/A
    modes: 1920x1080

    *******

    There are two kinds of video cards, VESA and GOP. VESA is how we started graphics, a simpler time. When UEFI came along, a new standard for video card interfacing came with it, which was GOP. For a while, cards came still
    with VESA VBIOS (and a flash file was provided for GOP), while some
    other cards had GOP+VESA VBIOS. Then later, the video cards got GOP-only
    VBIOS. This means there is a "disconnect" when sticking newer cards, in
    much older PCs. I think I had one case here, of plugging a new/old mix
    together and I couldn't get graphics to work at all (had to put old card back). The card was a GOP-only, the motherboard was a legacy BIOS.

    Now, once you've got the GOP card, if Secure Boot is enabled, then there
    are yet more details for getting it to work. You would think the NVidia
    Binary Blob would be signed and would not cause a problem. There are two possible Microsoft certificates in the MOK (as left behind by a windows 11 install maybe). Linux covered this at the OS signing level, with shims
    signed with the newer certificate (when the older certificate gets revoked).

    These two paragraphs are just to give some idea, a "flavour", of the
    ruination under our machines. The hurdles to make things work. Occasionally, one of those edge cases bites. But, perhaps, somewhere in your inxi,
    a pattern can be detected, of mischief.

    Paul
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Sep 27 10:06:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 9/27/2025 9:59 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 9/27/2025 8:00 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:14:23 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 9/26/2025 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:


    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able
    to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    And Wayland would be a different matter. (Pure Wayland needs a different tool.)

    But you could be using an X11 server via XWayland compatibility interface on Wayland.

    System:
    Host: CHARGER Kernel: 6.8.0-84-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.2 Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara

    Graphics:
    Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X: >>> loaded: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx >>> resolution: 1440x900~60Hz

    bullwinkle@CHARGER:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*Virtual1 1440/381x900/238+0+0 Virtual1

    Paul


    xrandr --listmonitors only lists one monitor.

    Alan


    There is a

    /var/log/gpu-manager.log

    as well, shown in this one.

    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=430711

    Paul

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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Sep 28 12:39:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 22:14:14 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan


    By switching to the instllation kernel 6.8.8-51, the problem disappeared!

    Alan
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Sep 28 10:01:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sun, 9/28/2025 7:39 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 22:14:14 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    This morning my main computer (this one) came up but only one screen
    was working.

    The graphics card has 4 sockets. One HDMI and 3 DisplayPorts. Both my
    screens use HDMI, so they have adapters. I switched everything round
    and found both screens worked provided they were plugged into one
    particular displayport.

    Checking "Display" in system settings only shows one screen.

    Just before I clocked off for the night, I thought I would boot up on
    the Mint 22.1 install flashdrive.

    To my surprise, delight and consternation both screens came up.

    Now I need to work out where the fault lies in the software?

    Suggestions please. :(

    Alan


    By switching to the instllation kernel 6.8.8-51, the problem disappeared!

    Alan

    When you were on 6.8.0-84, did you check /var/log/gpu-manager.log for details ?

    Compare to what the /var/log/gpu-manager.log for your 6.8.0-51 run generates. When the two monitors are working, it won't show in --list-monitors as None-1 any more. If should be using the actual video card output type names,
    such as HDMI, DP, VGA. The number after the name, is used in cases where the card has three DP as in DP-1, DP-2, DP-3.

    If you want to file a bug report, from the safety of your 6.8.0-51 alternate selection, you might want to examine the contents of that file, because
    as far as I know, that might have the info needed to add "content" to a
    bug report. I don't think necessarily, the output of "dmesg" would contain
    the smoking-gun for a monitor-not-detected problem. It's more than just monitor-not-detected, because your single monitor in the non-working case
    was listing the monitor as "None-1" and not "HDMI-1" as it is supposed
    to be. Even your case of getting one monitor running, the driver
    was not likely loaded. If you check your INXI in the two cases, you
    may see a different declaration of "loaded" and "unloaded" stuff.

    If X11 (on top of XWayland) is initializing, there would be an X11 log
    file as well. But it may not be naming the details of the physical card,
    as it would be getting some sort of info from Wayland rather than
    from the hardware, when it runs on top of XWayland. The Linux layer cake
    is a lot taller now that it is filled with foolishness. This is why
    stuff breaks.

    You would also want to mention in a report, whether you were Secure Booting
    or not, whether in UEFI or Legacy BIOS (CSM) mode and so on. As I think
    the higher bar of Secure Boot, it might require that the GOP graphics
    driver be signed somehow. Maybe a UEFI/TPM attestation failure could break it...
    I don't know how that works. Someone made the claim on Windows the
    other day, that something unsigned on their NIC, caused the secure boot
    to turn off their network, which does not sound plausible. Secure boot
    should just blow up the boot entirely, if it is not happy.

    Paul
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Sep 28 22:18:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 10:06:39 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 9/27/2025 9:59 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 9/27/2025 8:00 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:14:23 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 9/26/2025 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:


    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able
    to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    And Wayland would be a different matter. (Pure Wayland needs a different tool.)

    But you could be using an X11 server via XWayland compatibility interface on Wayland.

    System:
    Host: CHARGER Kernel: 6.8.0-84-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.2 Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara

    Graphics:
    Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
    loaded: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx
    resolution: 1440x900~60Hz

    bullwinkle@CHARGER:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*Virtual1 1440/381x900/238+0+0 Virtual1

    Paul


    xrandr --listmonitors only lists one monitor.

    Alan


    There is a

    /var/log/gpu-manager.log

    as well, shown in this one.

    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=430711

    Paul


    I have uninstalled and later reinstalled kernel 6.8.0-51-generic
    which has brought back my second monitor.

    What the other kernels didn't do was to install the kernel module
    amdgpu.
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    Linux Mint 22.1 kernel version 6.8.0-51-generic Cinnamon 6.4.8
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700, Radeon RX 6600, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, 2TB Barracuda
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Sep 29 20:48:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 22:18:45 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 10:06:39 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 9/27/2025 9:59 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 9/27/2025 8:00 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:14:23 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 9/26/2025 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:


    If the monitors are really there, an XRandR command should be able >>>> to make the monitors do things.

    But first the monitors have to be list-able, as HDMI-1 and HDMI-2
    or whatever.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xrandr

    And Wayland would be a different matter. (Pure Wayland needs a different tool.)

    But you could be using an X11 server via XWayland compatibility interface on Wayland.

    System:
    Host: CHARGER Kernel: 6.8.0-84-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.2 Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara

    Graphics:
    Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
    loaded: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: swrast gpu: vmwgfx
    resolution: 1440x900~60Hz

    bullwinkle@CHARGER:~$ xrandr --listmonitors
    Monitors: 1
    0: +*Virtual1 1440/381x900/238+0+0 Virtual1

    Paul


    xrandr --listmonitors only lists one monitor.

    Alan


    There is a

    /var/log/gpu-manager.log

    as well, shown in this one.

    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=430711

    Paul


    I have uninstalled and later reinstalled kernel 6.8.0-51-generic
    which has brought back my second monitor.

    What the other kernels didn't do was to install the kernel module
    amdgpu.

    That didn't last. I got ChatGPT to work through the problems that
    6.8.0-84 caused and it seems to have licked them.

    I won't reboot until tomorrow afternoon, so we'll know then.

    Alan
    --
    Linux Mint 22.1 kernel version 6.8.0-84-generic Cinnamon 6.4.8
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700, Radeon RX 6600, 32GB DDR5, 2TB SSD, 2TB Barracuda
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