• Reconfiguring RPi

    From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Aug 14 15:19:51 2025
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    This isn't the right group for this thread, but right now I'm not
    subscribed to a more appropriate one. If y'all think I should take it somewhere else, I'll subscribe there.

    My project is about changing my RPi3B from a conventional Raspbian
    desktop to a headless AP according to the tutorial here:

    https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/setting-up-a-raspberry-pi-3-as-an-access-point/all

    Setting up a Raspberry Pi 3 as an Access Point

    My plan is to sorta do it like the tutorial, which I have never done,
    but to do it somewhat differently than the article, which I have ALSO
    never done.

    The 'current' RPi has wifi connectivity and functions like a desktop for
    such as a browser and newsgroup. What I've done so far is to add
    ethernet connectivity, because the wifi is going to be corrupted from
    the gitgo. Then I will complete the tutorial to make the Pi an access
    point w/ monitor, mouse, kb; but that isn't what I want in the end.

    I want the Pi to become a headless AP so as to enable its new location
    which can only 'support' power and ethernet, not the peripherals.

    I also have no experience going headless.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Aug 14 17:57:59 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    I also have no experience going headless.

    The tutorial will 'wreck' the Pi's current wifi connectivity, so I'm
    going to approach this from the direction of learning how to make the
    RPi headless first, because enabling the ethernet connection of the Pi
    is running a cable across a trafficked floor, so I would rather do that
    part on a later phase.

    I like graphical when I can get it.

    I see RealVNC server is in the RPi repo/s and easily installed; on my LM
    there is no realvnc viewer in the repo/s; there is Tiger; I think I'll
    just boot a live LM and install the realvnc viewer from its site and see
    if I can access the Pi.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Aug 14 18:25:17 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    I think I'll just boot a live LM and install the realvnc viewer from its site and see if I can access the Pi.

    Ha. Did it. The realvnc site is pushing their 'connect' product
    combining server/viewer, but they still provide access to a .deb which
    is the viewer. I installed that on a live LM and was able to access and control the RPi's screen.

    I don't mind using the terminal, but I think I like the idea of having a graphical access to the RPi from a graphical computer and use that
    interface to do any terminal/command activities on the Pi.

    Realvnc also has instructions for using such as Tiger vnc w/ real, so
    that is another alternative.

    Since I'm doing all of this locally, I don't really have need of real's
    cloud situation.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Aug 14 18:39:40 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    I see RealVNC server is in the RPi repo/s and easily installed; on my LM there is no realvnc viewer in the repo/s; there is Tiger; I think I'll
    just boot a live LM and install the realvnc viewer from its site and see
    if I can access the Pi.

    Surprisingly, to me, realvnc has a lot of positive things to say about
    Tiger, but I don't see Tiger in the RPi repo/s. I may next investigate
    whether or not I like to use Tiger as a viewer for the real server.
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 12:14:30 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    This isn't the right group for this thread, but right now I'm not
    subscribed to a more appropriate one. If y'all think I should take it somewhere else, I'll subscribe there.

    My project is about changing my RPi3B from a conventional Raspbian
    desktop to a headless AP according to the tutorial here:

    https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/setting-up-a-raspberry-pi-3-as-an-access-point/all


    Setting up a Raspberry Pi 3 as an Access Point

    My plan is to sorta do it like the tutorial, which I have never done,
    but to do it somewhat differently than the article, which I have ALSO
    never done.

    The 'current' RPi has wifi connectivity and functions like a desktop
    for such as a browser and newsgroup. What I've done so far is to add ethernet connectivity, because the wifi is going to be corrupted from
    the gitgo.-a Then I will complete the tutorial to make the Pi an access point w/ monitor, mouse, kb; but that isn't what I want in the end.

    I want the Pi to become a headless AP so as to enable its new location
    which can only 'support' power and ethernet, not the peripherals.

    I also have no experience going headless.


    sadly (for them) such is not the case for some of my chickens-a :)
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Aug 14 19:56:50 2025
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    Felix wrote:
    sadly (for them) such is not the case for some of my chickens

    In my youth, my mother was in charge of fetching, beheading, plucking, cleaning and cooking the chickens in our backyard, which were also the
    source of our eggs.

    That was also the backyard where a mule kicked me in the head when I
    foolishly pulled his tail. It seemed like a good idea at the time; I
    was very young.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 04:21:00 2025
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    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 15:19:51 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

    I also have no experience going headless.

    You donrCOt need any GUI access. Everything can be done from the command
    line over SSH.
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 14:55:44 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    sadly (for them) such is not the case for some of my chickens

    In my youth, my mother was in charge of fetching, beheading, plucking, cleaning and cooking the chickens in our backyard, which were also the source of our eggs.

    I was just having a bit of fun. :) I don't have chooks (as we call them)
    now. not sure they're even allowed here in suburbia.-a but like you, we
    had them when I was a young, up until my mid teens, also as a source of
    food and eggs.


    That was also the backyard where a mule kicked me in the head when I foolishly pulled his tail.-a It seemed like a good idea at the time; I
    was very young.


    that must have hurt!
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 14:22:27 2025
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    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 15:19:51 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

    This isn't the right group for this thread, but right now I'm not
    subscribed to a more appropriate one. If y'all think I should take it somewhere else, I'll subscribe there.

    comp.sys.raspberry-pi

    There's actually people on that newsgroup. (-:

    I want the Pi to become a headless AP so as to enable its new location
    which can only 'support' power and ethernet, not the peripherals.

    I also have no experience going headless.

    You can use SSH or - if you enable VNC - the (standalone) RealVNC
    viewer: <https://www.realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/>

    I use it under Windows, but there's one for Linux as well.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 10:24:20 2025
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    Felix wrote:
    that must have hurt!

    My recollection was that I was 'admiring' his tail by grasping it.
    According to my mother, her mother was first on the 'scene' and seeing
    the gash on my forehead and my stunned stupor, tho't I was dead.

    I proudly wore that forehead scar as I grew older.

    The other story my mother likes to tell about that same farm/ranch place
    was that there was a windmill in the front yard which I decided to climb
    to near the top where the vanes were whirling around, and she had to
    climb up there and bring/carry me down.

    For years and years thereafter, she would send me little windmill
    mementos from time to time when she would run across them.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 10:28:58 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    The other story my mother likes to tell

    s/likes/liked/
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 10:48:23 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    the vanes were whirling around

    For you windmill anatomists; the blades were whirling around and the
    vane was turning.

    Aeromotor style: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Aermotor_Windmill%2C_Texas%2C_2010.JPG/1024px-Aermotor_Windmill%2C_Texas%2C_2010.JPG
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Aug 15 11:35:16 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    I may next investigate whether or not I like to use Tiger as a viewer
    for the real server.

    Installed the Tiger vnc viewer on live LM and accessed the realvnc on
    the RPi; I like the appearance in Tiger better than that of realvnc.

    I also like that Tiger is 'simpler'. If I were going to be using this
    over the internet I would want greater security of Real server/viewer,
    but this is on my LAN only.

    Now I'm trying to figure out if there is some way the RPi could have two different 'modes' of operation; I may take that puzzle over to the RPi
    group. For the time being, before I go headless, I would like to be
    able to 'switch' its mode of operation from conventional wifi
    connectivity to ethernet connection + being a wifi access point. That
    is, have 'either/or'.
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Aug 16 09:21:22 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Felix wrote:
    that must have hurt!

    My recollection was that I was 'admiring' his tail by grasping it.
    According to my mother, her mother was first on the 'scene' and seeing
    the gash on my forehead and my stunned stupor, tho't I was dead.

    I proudly wore that forehead scar as I grew older.

    The other story my mother likes to tell about that same farm/ranch
    place was that there was a windmill in the front yard which I decided
    to climb to near the top where the vanes were whirling around, and she
    had to climb up there and bring/carry me down.

    For years and years thereafter, she would send me little windmill
    mementos from time to time when she would run across them.


    LOL
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Aug 16 08:22:45 2025
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    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:35:16 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

    Now I'm trying to figure out if there is some way the RPi could have two different 'modes' of operation; I may take that puzzle over to the RPi
    group. For the time being, before I go headless, I would like to be
    able to 'switch' its mode of operation from conventional wifi
    connectivity to ethernet connection + being a wifi access point. That
    is, have 'either/or'.

    You could do this with systemd, by setting up custom targets. The relevant services to start/stop in each mode would have appropriate WantedBy/ ConflictedBy lines added to their service definitions.
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