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This is an example, for the record, of the current state of AI on Windows.
I was doing a review for Amazon Vine <https://amazon.com/about/vine> who
had sent me a hose fitting to review (where I do about 8 reviews a day for free products Amazon Vine sends to my home) so I had to ask a bunch of questions of CoPilot to get to know the product details better, and at some point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the Windows batch script for me.
Having programmed since the days of Fortran IV (before Fortran 77) and
COBOL & PL/1 and IBM Assembly Language, and learning to hate programming, I prefer to let the AI write the programs for me.
Below is the verbatim interaction with CoPilot, for others to benefit,
where it's interesting how SIMILAR AI is in making the same mistakes we all made when we were LEARNING how to program - but - and this is key - but AI recovers from those many sophormorish mistakes thousands of times FASTER
than we would recover from them. Which is why it works so well as a team.
10 The AI puts out garbage
20 The human tests that garbage & tells AI to fix what didn't work
30 AI fixes it (goto 10)
See below for details...
User: ght is how many tpi
Copilot: GHT (Garden Hose Thread) has 11.5 threads per inch (TPI). It's the standard thread used for garden hoses in North America.
User: there are only about 1/4 inch of threads in the female hose fitting though, which at 11.5TPI is only about (how many threads)?
Copilot: ...2.875 threads, which rounds up to about 3 threads total. The threads hold the fitting together; it's the washer that prevents leaks.
User: by way of contrast, the male ends measured at a full half inch, which at 11.5 TPI is about (how many threads)?
Copilot: That equals 5.75 threads, or about 5 to 6 full threads.
User: the female garden hose thing (is it a nut?) has 8 sides. Why not 6? Copilot: Yes, it's a nut-specifically a swivel nut. The 8 sides give better grip angles, reduce rounding off, and increase tool compatibility.
User: the hose fitting is very heavy. Over 500 grams. Can you write a batch file for window that asks for input of the number of grams and then it converts that to cooking ounces in fractions no smaller than 1/8, and where it loops to ask for the next conversion but if you type q it will quit.
Copilot: [Provides initial batch script to convert grams to ounces with loop and fraction rounding.]
User: Enter number of grams (or type 'q' to quit): 1395
Copilot: Error messages occur due to non-integer math and letters in input like "1395g".
User: Can you fix it?
Copilot: [Provides updated script using integer math and input validation.]
User: Enter number of grams (or type 'q' to quit): 23
Copilot: Incorrectly flagged as invalid. Validation needs tweaking.
User: Can you fix the funky characters?
Copilot: Save the batch file as ANSI instead of UTF-8 to eliminate stray symbols like |+.
User: Can you give me the script in ascii so I can copy it using GVIM to g2oz.bat?
Copilot: [Provides script using plain ASCII characters, tilde replaced with ~.]
User: Can you fix the output to omit "0" when less than one ounce and format 14-1/4 ounces style?
Copilot: [Updates script formatting accordingly.]
User: Can you make the output read like: "23 grams (or about 7/8 ounces)"? Copilot: [Adds formatted output with optional pounds & suggests plurals.]
User: Oh, yes, I didn't think of plurals. Yes please.
Copilot: [Updates script with correct pluralization: ounce/ounces, pound/pounds.]
User: how long did this conversation take?
Copilot: From your first message to this one, the conversation has been going for about 1 hour and 40 minutes. And we've covered quite a bit - garden hose threads, wrench geometry, rounding fractions in cooking conversions, ASCII-safe scripting, pluralization, and even how to copy your chat. Productive and charming, I'd say. Want me to compile the final batch script one more time for easy pasting? Or do you feel like cooking up something totally different now?
User: yes. Please do. Also, how do I copy this whole conversation?
Copilot: Instructions for selecting and copying manually, or using GVIM.
User: Yuck. Too much formatting. Can you convert this whole conversation into pure ascii text so I can paste it into GVim?
Copilot: [You're reading the result!]
@echo off
REM 20250719 g2oz.bat convert grams to ounces, kitchen rounding
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
:Start
set /p grams=Enter number of grams (numeric only, or type 'q' to quit):
if /i "%grams%"=="q" exit /b
REM Validate input
echo.%grams%| findstr /R "^[0-9][0-9]*$" >nul
if errorlevel 1 (
echo Please enter a valid number with no letters or symbols.
goto Start
)
REM Convert grams to total eighths of an ounce
set /a total_eighths=(%grams% * 8 + 14) / 28
set /a total_ounces=!total_eighths! / 8
set /a eighths=!total_eighths! %% 8
REM Build fraction string
set fraction=
if !eighths!==1 set fraction=1/8
if !eighths!==2 set fraction=1/4
if !eighths!==3 set fraction=3/8
if !eighths!==4 set fraction=1/2
if !eighths!==5 set fraction=5/8
if !eighths!==6 set fraction=3/4
if !eighths!==7 set fraction=7/8
REM Calculate pounds
set /a pounds=!total_ounces! / 16
set /a ounces=!total_ounces! %% 16
REM Determine pluralization
set oz_label=ounce
if !ounces! GTR 1 set oz_label=ounces
if !eighths! GTR 0 set oz_label=ounces
set lb_label=pound
if !pounds! GTR 1 set lb_label=pounds
REM Build final output
set about=
if !total_ounces! LSS 1 (
if defined fraction (
set about=%fraction% !oz_label!
) else (
set about=less than 1 ounce
)
) else (
if !pounds! GEQ 1 (
if defined fraction (
set about=!pounds! !lb_label! !ounces!-!fraction! !oz_label!
) else (
if !ounces!==0 (
set about=!pounds! !lb_label!
) else (
set about=!pounds! !lb_label! !ounces! !oz_label!
)
)
) else (
if defined fraction (
set about=!ounces!-!fraction! !oz_label!
) else (
set about=!ounces! !oz_label!
)
)
)
echo %grams% grams (or about !about!)
goto Start
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the Windows batch script for me.
What is GVIM?
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the >> Windows batch script for me.
Why? There's dozens of sites that can do that already.
Startpage > convert gram to ounce
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the >> Windows batch script for me.
Why? There's dozens of sites that can do that already.
Startpage > convert gram to ounce
I was doing a review for Amazon Vine <https://amazon.com/about/vine> who
had sent me a hose fitting to review (where I do about 8 reviews a day for free products Amazon Vine sends to my home)
On 19/07/2025 14:14, Alan K. politely and respectfully asked:
What is GVIM?
GUI Vim
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the Windows batch script for me.
Why? There's dozens of sites that can do that already.
Startpage > convert gram to ounce
On 19/07/2025 15:41, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the >>> Windows batch script for me.
Why? There's dozens of sites that can do that already.
Startpage > convert gram to ounce
Don't be silly. There's no fun in that. If you can do the hard way why
do the easy way!
Marion, a.k.a Arlen, is only interested to attract young boys who he can abuse sexually. He currently works at some YMCA where he can meet many
young boys but that's not enough for him.
Rob wrote on 7/19/2025 1:20 PM:--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On 19/07/2025 15:41, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the >>>> Windows batch script for me.
Why? There's dozens of sites that can do that already.
Startpage > convert gram to ounce
Don't be silly. There's no fun in that. If you can do the hard way why
do the easy way!
Marion, a.k.a Arlen, is only interested to attract young boys who he can
abuse sexually. He currently works at some YMCA where he can meet many
young boys but that's not enough for him.
Damn, is he STILL after you? You should tell your parents.
I was doing a review for Amazon Vine <https://amazon.com/about/vine> who
had sent me a hose fitting to review (where I do about 8 reviews a day for >> free products Amazon Vine sends to my home)
They're not really free.
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
at some
point I needed to convert grams to ounces, so I asked CoPilot to write the >>> Windows batch script for me.
Why? There's dozens of sites that can do that already.
Startpage > convert gram to ounce
The weight and mass option of Windows calculator will do it as well
Send the Jews back!
SeigHeil!
heil Hitler!
www.goyimtv.com
Or use Calculator. After opening it, click the hamburger and scroll
down to "Weight and mass".
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:50:38 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
I was doing a review for Amazon Vine <https://amazon.com/about/vine> who had sent me a hose fitting to review (where I do about 8 reviews a day for free products Amazon Vine sends to my home)
They're not really free. We have to declare them on our income tax
return, at full price, and pay tax on them.
On 7/19/2025 7:16 PM, John Doe wrote:
Send the Jews back!
SeigHeil!
heil Hitler!
www.goyimtv.com
If that is how you feel I hope you are not using anything "the Jews"
have helped develop. That includes every operating system, GPS, mapping programs, and CPU.
Or use Calculator. After opening it, click the hamburger and scroll
down to "Weight and mass".
I never knew that until a few days ago. Never too old to learn...
I was doing a review for Amazon Vine <https://amazon.com/about/vine> who >>> had sent me a hose fitting to review (where I do about 8 reviews a day for >>> free products Amazon Vine sends to my home)
They're not really free. We have to declare them on our income tax
return, at full price, and pay tax on them.
Well, you don't expect Arlen, with his 'extremely high IQ' and
'excellent education' to be able to figure that out, do you!?
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 17:06:22 +0200, s|b wrote :
Or use Calculator. After opening it, click the hamburger and scroll
down to "Weight and mass".
I never knew that until a few days ago. Never too old to learn...
I never knew it either, but the point of this thread was never how to
convert but that CoPilot could write a script for you from scratch.
On 20 Jul 2025 15:49:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
I was doing a review for Amazon Vine <https://amazon.com/about/vine> who >>> had sent me a hose fitting to review (where I do about 8 reviews a day for
free products Amazon Vine sends to my home)
They're not really free. We have to declare them on our income tax
return, at full price, and pay tax on them.
Well, you don't expect Arlen, with his 'extremely high IQ' and
'excellent education' to be able to figure that out, do you!?
Jesus Christ Frank,
Why do you waste all our time *desperate* to insult me on Usenet, Frank?
Click this link before you embarrass yourself again, please.
<https://i.postimg.cc/sfvLPfxL/tax-implications.jpg>
Stan, if he's been invited to Amazon Vine, can confirm that's the GUI.
I realize you told all of us long ago you never could graduate from
secondary school in the Netherlands (I think that's where you are),
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On 20 Jul 2025 15:49:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
So come up with the cite or shut the fsck up with your lies ("Yeah, *right*!?").
What is GVIM?
GUI Vim
The Vim install install both the command-line version and the GUI
version.
<https://www.vim.org/>
still don't come up with proof
The proof is your *desperation* to claim on Usenet publicly that I didn't sign a W2 which gives Amazon my Social Security Number (which is what we
use for taxes here in the USA, Frank) and which gives the IRS the income.
<https://i.postimg.cc/sfvLPfxL/tax-implications.jpg>
We have to declare them on our income taxWell, you don't expect him, with his 'extremely high IQ' and
return, at full price, and pay tax on them.
