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Trump's doing as he's told by Putin!



U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a
deal to end the war with Russia because oRussia is a very big power, and theyAre noto, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have demanded more Ukrainian land. After the two leaders met in Alaska on
Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Putin had offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the industrial region that is one of MoscowAs main targets, a source familiar
with the matter said.

Zelensky rejected the demand, the source said. Russia already controls a
fifth of Ukraine, including about three-quarters of Donetsk province, which
it first entered in 2014.

Trump also said he agreed with Putin that a peace deal should be sought without the prior ceasefire that Ukraine and its European allies, until now with U.S. support, have demanded.

Zelensky said he would meet Trump in Washington on Monday, while KyivAs European allies welcomed TrumpAs efforts but vowed to back Ukraine and
tighten sanctions on Russia.

Analysis: Despite TrumpAs impatience to broker a settlement in Russia-
Ukraine War, Putin presents some obstacles to peace

TrumpAs meeting with Putin, the first U.S.-Russia summit since Moscow
launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, lasted just
three hours.

oIt was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement, which would end
the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up,o Trump posted on Truth Social.

His various comments on the meeting mostly aligned with the public
positions of Moscow, which says it wants a full settlement - not a pause -
but that this will be complex because positions are odiametrically
opposedo.

Russia has been gradually advancing for months. The war - the deadliest in Europe for 80 years - has killed or wounded well over a million people from both sides, including thousands of mostly Ukrainian civilians, according to analysts. Before the summit, Trump had said he would not be happy unless a ceasefire was agreed on.

Ukrainian women give birth in bomb shelters as country faces plummeting population

But afterwards he said that, after MondayAs talks with Zelensky, oif all
works out, we will then schedule a meeting with President Putino. Those
talks will evoke memories of a meeting in the White House Oval Office in February, where Trump and Vice President JD Vance gave Zelensky a brutal public dressing-down. Putin signalled no movement in RussiaAs long-held demands, which also include a veto on KyivAs desired membership in the NATO alliance.

He made no mention in public of meeting Zelensky, which the Ukrainian
leader said he was willing to do. Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said a three-
way summit had not been discussed.

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In an interview with Fox NewsA Sean Hannity, Trump signalled that he and
Putin had discussed land transfers and security guarantees for Ukraine, and had olargely agreedo.

oI think weAre pretty close to a deal,o he said, adding: oUkraine has to
agree to it. Maybe theyAll say AnoA.o

Asked what he would advise Zelensky to do, Trump said: oGotta make a deal.o

oLook, Russia is a very big power, and theyAre not,o he added.

Zelensky has consistently said he cannot concede territory without changes
to UkraineAs constitution, and Kyiv sees DonetskAs ofortress citieso such
as Sloviansk and Kramatorsk as a bulwark against Russian advances into even more regions.

Zelensky has also insisted on security guarantees, to deter Russia from invading again. He said he and Trump had discussed opositive signalso on
the U.S. taking part, and that Ukraine needed a lasting peace, not ojust another pauseo between Russian invasions. Canadian Prime Minister Mark
Carney welcomed what he described as TrumpAs openness to providing security guarantees to Ukraine under a peace deal. He said security guarantees were oessential to any just and lasting peace.o

Putin, who has opposed involving foreign ground forces, said he agreed with Trump that UkraineAs security must be oensuredo. oI would like to hope that the understanding we have reached will allow us to get closer to that goal
and open the way to peace in Ukraine,o Putin told a briefing on Friday with Trump. For Putin, just sitting down with Trump represented a victory. He
had been ostracized by Western leaders since the start of the war, and just
a week earlier had faced a threat of new sanctions from Trump.


Trump spoke to European leaders after returning to Washington. Several stressed the need to keep pressure on Russia.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said an end to the war was closer than ever, thanks to Trump, but added: o... until (Putin) stops his barbaric assault, we will keep tightening the screws on his war machine with even
more sanctions.o A statement from European leaders said, oUkraine must have ironclad security guaranteeso and no limits should be placed on its armed forces or right to seek NATO membership as Russia has sought.

Some European politicians and commentators were scathing about the summit. oPutin got his red carpet treatment with Trump, while Trump got nothing,o Wolfgang Ischinger, former German ambassador to Washington, posted on X.

Both Russia and Ukraine carried out overnight air attacks, a daily
occurrence, while fighting raged on the front. Trump told Fox he would postpone imposing tariffs on China for buying Russian oil, but he might
have to othink about ito in two or three weeks.

He ended his remarks after the summit by telling Putin: oWeAll speak to you very soon and probably see you again very soon.o

oNext time in Moscow,o a smiling Putin responded in English.
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Griffen wrote:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a
deal to end the war with Russia because oRussia is a very big power, and theyAre noto, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have demanded more Ukrainian land. After the two leaders met in Alaska on
Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Putin had offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the industrial region that is one of MoscowAs main targets, a source familiar with the matter said.

TACO, expert on everything, is referring to the historical precedent of
how the big power England utterly defeated Washington and his
continental army.

According to Ukraine and Ukraine friendly, Russian air defence in Crimea
has collapsed. Ukraine lets Russia keep Crimea because that drains
supplies from eastern Ukraine. Russia seems immobilised, its soldiers
having to crawl forward trying to dodge drones. They are predicting
Ukraine will bleed Russia white until Putin gets his own special firing
squad party.
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 21:16:32 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

Griffen wrote:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a
deal to end the war with Russia because oRussia is a very big power, and
theyAre noto, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have
demanded more Ukrainian land. After the two leaders met in Alaska on
Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Putin had
offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the
industrial region that is one of MoscowAs main targets, a source familiar
with the matter said.

TACO, expert on everything, is referring to the historical precedent of
how the big power England utterly defeated Washington and his
continental army.

According to Ukraine and Ukraine friendly, Russian air defence in Crimea
has collapsed. Ukraine lets Russia keep Crimea because that drains
supplies from eastern Ukraine. Russia seems immobilised, its soldiers
having to crawl forward trying to dodge drones. They are predicting
Ukraine will bleed Russia white until Putin gets his own special firing >squad party.

And until that happens, men continue to die at the front.

Ukrainians/Russians are currently dying at up to a 1/8 ratio according
to some reports.
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Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 21:16:32 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

Griffen wrote:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a
deal to end the war with Russia because rCLRussia is a very big power, and >>> theyrCOre notrCY, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have >>> demanded more Ukrainian land. After the two leaders met in Alaska on
Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Putin had >>> offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the
industrial region that is one of MoscowrCOs main targets, a source familiar >>> with the matter said.

TACO, expert on everything, is referring to the historical precedent of
how the big power England utterly defeated Washington and his
continental army.

According to Ukraine and Ukraine friendly, Russian air defence in Crimea
has collapsed. Ukraine lets Russia keep Crimea because that drains
supplies from eastern Ukraine. Russia seems immobilised, its soldiers
having to crawl forward trying to dodge drones. They are predicting
Ukraine will bleed Russia white until Putin gets his own special firing
squad party.

And until that happens, men continue to die at the front.

Ukrainians/Russians are currently dying at up to a 1/8 ratio according
to some reports.

Those reports are lies. Russia isn't out of volunteers, while the Ukraine is almost out of conscripts. Russia was hiding their casualty numbers early on when losses were high, but now they're being transparent. Ukrainian casualty numbers are being hidden, but their army has shrunk considerably and their graveyards are expanding. Who do you think is winning?
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chine.bleu wrote:

Griffen wrote:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a
deal to end the war with Russia because rCLRussia is a very big power, and >> theyrCOre notrCY, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have >> demanded more Ukrainian land. After the two leaders met in Alaska on
Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Putin had
offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the
industrial region that is one of MoscowrCOs main targets, a source familiar >> with the matter said.

TACO, expert on everything, is referring to the historical precedent of how the
big power England utterly defeated Washington and his continental army.

The Revolutionary War was won in London. It's called 'treason'.
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 22:58:11 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 21:16:32 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

Griffen wrote:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a >>>> deal to end the war with Russia because oRussia is a very big power, and >>>> theyAre noto, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have >>>> demanded more Ukrainian land. After the two leaders met in Alaska on
Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Putin had >>>> offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the
industrial region that is one of MoscowAs main targets, a source familiar >>>> with the matter said.

TACO, expert on everything, is referring to the historical precedent of
how the big power England utterly defeated Washington and his
continental army.

According to Ukraine and Ukraine friendly, Russian air defence in Crimea >>> has collapsed. Ukraine lets Russia keep Crimea because that drains
supplies from eastern Ukraine. Russia seems immobilised, its soldiers
having to crawl forward trying to dodge drones. They are predicting
Ukraine will bleed Russia white until Putin gets his own special firing
squad party.

And until that happens, men continue to die at the front.

Ukrainians/Russians are currently dying at up to a 1/8 ratio according
to some reports.

Those reports are lies. Russia isn't out of volunteers,

Volunteers who are scraping drinking water out of puddles,
distributing supplies on the front with donkeys and sending attack
formations into battle on motorcycles and armed with 60 year old
Soviet rifles.

ROTFL!

while the Ukraine is
almost out of conscripts. Russia was hiding their casualty numbers early on >when losses were high, but now they're being transparent. Ukrainian casualty >numbers are being hidden, but their army has shrunk considerably and their >graveyards are expanding. Who do you think is winning?

Looked at another way. Think of the US invasion of Iraq. Let's say
the US invaded and in a few weeks took control of a third of the
country. Now, three years later, the US controls only 20% of the
country and has suffered over a million casualties.

By what possible stretch of the imagination could the US be considered
to be 'winning' such a war?

Do the math. If the Russians keep making the same progress they have
over the past two years, they'll need another 500 years and 200
million dead Russians to take the whole country.

Russia's Black Seafloor Fleet is in hiding, the UA has done so much
damage to Russia's petro infrastructure that Putin has banned gasoline
exports, inflation is so bad the prime rate is over 20% and car and
home sales have dropped by a third.

Looked at another way. Big, powerful Russia started a two week
special military operation that has failed to meet it's objectives
after three years of fighting.

Who do you think you're fooling?
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Governor Swill, <news:qnv5ak9vdmu17mbt4vat29rhf5u9315mu7@4ax.com>

Russian air defence in Crimea has collapsed.

<https://tinyurl.com/crimea-2025-08>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeNQJu-aQBE>

distributing supplies on the front with donkeys

Donkeys are less probably to step on antipersonnel mines.

attack formations into battle on motorcycles

Motorcycles, buggy cars, are less vulnerable when there's
very many various kinds of drones in the air while heavier
armored vehicles are much easier targets.

ROTFL!

Ignorance is strength.
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Truth be told, this is a war Biden and the money-grubbin' Democrats started.

Despite the deep-state Democrats, President Trump is trying to end it.
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:49:26 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
wrote:

Governor Swill, <news:qnv5ak9vdmu17mbt4vat29rhf5u9315mu7@4ax.com>

Russian air defence in Crimea has collapsed.

<https://tinyurl.com/crimea-2025-08>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeNQJu-aQBE>

distributing supplies on the front with donkeys

Donkeys are less probably to step on antipersonnel mines.

They're using donkeys because Ukraine has destroyed all your trucks,
fool.

attack formations into battle on motorcycles

Motorcycles, buggy cars, are less vulnerable when there's
very many various kinds of drones in the air while heavier
armored vehicles are much easier targets.

More bs from a Russky. You're using murdercycles because Ukraine has
burned its way through all your armored war vehicles. Besides, if
bikes were such a good idea, you'd expect to see everybody using them.

Face facts, you idiots attacked the poorest nation in Europe for a
week long "special operation" to change the regime.

Three years and over a million casualties later, you've lost a third
of the real estate you stole in that first week.

All you're doing is murdering hundreds of thousands of your young men
to no purpose. You can't win and you won't. Now that Trump has cut
the US off from any direct support of Ukraine and left it in Europe's
hands, you'll find them a tougher nut to crack than commie lover
Trump.

ROTFL!

Ignorance is strength.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! You must be one strong mofo!
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