• [OT] 3d Print NG

    From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to alt.folklore.computers on Thu Oct 9 14:19:06 2025
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    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Thanks

    D
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Thu Oct 9 21:50:33 2025
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    On Thu, 09 Oct 2025 14:19:06 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Even if you find such a group, will it likely to be carrying much traffic?
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  • From John Ames@commodorejohn@gmail.com to alt.folklore.computers on Thu Oct 9 14:52:45 2025
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    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:50:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Even if you find such a group, will it likely to be carrying much
    traffic?
    Was that the question?
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to alt.folklore.computers on Thu Oct 9 16:20:58 2025
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    John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:

    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:50:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Even if you find such a group, will it likely to be carrying much
    traffic?

    Was that the question?

    I don't have any yet. Just getting started on the hobby and wanted to
    peruse the jabber. Is this a good forum for it?

    D
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  • From Peter Flass@Peter@Iron-Spring.com to alt.folklore.computers on Thu Oct 9 20:20:59 2025
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    On 10/9/25 16:20, Daniel wrote:
    John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:

    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:50:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Even if you find such a group, will it likely to be carrying much
    traffic?

    Was that the question?

    I don't have any yet. Just getting started on the hobby and wanted to
    peruse the jabber. Is this a good forum for it?

    D

    no
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  • From David LaRue@huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 04:14:32 2025
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    Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote in news:10c9u2r$3o9sv$1@dont- email.me:

    On 10/9/25 16:20, Daniel wrote:
    John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:

    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:50:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Even if you find such a group, will it likely to be carrying much
    traffic?

    Was that the question?

    I don't have any yet. Just getting started on the hobby and wanted to
    peruse the jabber. Is this a good forum for it?

    D

    no


    The free.3d.printing group was started a couple weeks back. I've not seen anything particularly useful yet. They are still a relatively small group.

    If you have a particular 3D Printer perhaps that company has or can
    recomend places for you to check.

    There might be crafting groups where you could get ideas on things to make
    or how to make them.

    If you use any 3D Modeling Tools perhaps the people there could refer you
    to some discussion groups.

    Good luck!
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 05:45:31 2025
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    On Thu, 09 Oct 2025 14:19:06 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Thanks

    D

    https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/ is active but it seems to be mostly 'look what I made' rather than discussing the technology. You might find something useful with a search.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 14:39:52 2025
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    On 10 Oct 2025 05:45:31 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/ is active but it seems to be mostly 'look what I made' rather than discussing the technology. You might find something useful with a search.

    Reddit is toxic as hell. The whole upvoting/downvoting is absurd. It
    regularly happens that people upvote a comment that is wrong, even after
    other users state that it is wrong. And then you've got the Karma thing
    and all the bots. Some time ago I came across a website that stated that
    50% of the messages on Reddit are bots. (Dead Internet is here.)

    That being said: you can always try. You don't need an account to get
    access to (most) subreddits.
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    s|b
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 07:23:50 2025
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    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

    On Thu, 09 Oct 2025 14:19:06 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    Can someone recommend a good newsgroup that discusses 3D printing?

    Thanks

    D

    https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/ is active but it seems to be mostly 'look what I made' rather than discussing the technology. You might find something useful with a search.

    Yeah, I am already a member of a few maker forums and thingiverse. I
    avoid reddit like the plague, especially since the majority of its
    traffic is bot activity.

    I just hoped to find a community on usenet. There are some adjacent
    communities that discuss 3d printing to some degree but not in
    general.

    It was worth a look. It's a closed matter from my point of view.

    D
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 18:53:58 2025
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    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 14:39:52 +0200, s|b wrote:

    Reddit is toxic as hell. The whole upvoting/downvoting is absurd. It regularly happens that people upvote a comment that is wrong, even after other users state that it is wrong. And then you've got the Karma thing
    and all the bots. Some time ago I came across a website that stated that
    50% of the messages on Reddit are bots. (Dead Internet is here.)

    I suspect that depends on the sub. It's no different than usenet. alt.home.repair is a wasteland that might as well be a subset of alt.fan.rush.limbaugh. The demise of google groups did little to improve
    it. alt.survival would seem to be as susceptible but never was as bad. Why
    did a.h.r became a troll farm and not others?

    Over the last decades it's been whack-a-mole trying to find where the
    serious discussions move to. Forums come and go. Mailing lists seem to be
    as much a dying thing as usenet. I never got into IRC as there were no channels I found interesting.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 21:29:58 2025
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    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:23:50 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    I just hoped to find a community on usenet. There are some adjacent communities that discuss 3d printing to some degree but not in
    general.

    The natural catch-all group, for categories that donrCOt fit elsewhere,
    would be comp.misc.
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to alt.folklore.computers on Fri Oct 10 15:13:35 2025
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    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 14:39:52 +0200, s|b wrote:

    Reddit is toxic as hell. The whole upvoting/downvoting is absurd. It
    regularly happens that people upvote a comment that is wrong, even after
    other users state that it is wrong. And then you've got the Karma thing
    and all the bots. Some time ago I came across a website that stated that
    50% of the messages on Reddit are bots. (Dead Internet is here.)

    I suspect that depends on the sub. It's no different than usenet. alt.home.repair is a wasteland that might as well be a subset of alt.fan.rush.limbaugh. The demise of google groups did little to improve
    it. alt.survival would seem to be as susceptible but never was as bad. Why did a.h.r became a troll farm and not others?

    Over the last decades it's been whack-a-mole trying to find where the serious discussions move to. Forums come and go. Mailing lists seem to be
    as much a dying thing as usenet. I never got into IRC as there were no channels I found interesting.

    Which IRC server did you use?
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Oct 11 02:45:50 2025
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    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:13:35 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    Which IRC server did you use?

    On good days I might remember what I had for breakfast the day before. My brief fling at IRC was probably 25 years ago. Not a clue.

    fwiw konversation connects to libera by default. #3Dprinting appears to
    be maintaining radio silence. 6552 channels and nothing on to paraphrase
    the Springsteen song. I suppose some of them must be active.

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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Oct 11 11:53:24 2025
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    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:13:35 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    Which IRC server did you use?

    On good days I might remember what I had for breakfast the day before. My brief fling at IRC was probably 25 years ago. Not a clue.

    fwiw konversation connects to libera by default. #3Dprinting appears to
    be maintaining radio silence. 6552 channels and nothing on to paraphrase the Springsteen song. I suppose some of them must be active.

    Yeah people don't tend to have conversations unless someone has a
    question. I'm often idle for days. And Ihave threads with people that go
    back years.

    libera is a spinoff of freenode.

    D
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Oct 12 09:52:52 2025
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    On 2025-10-11, Daniel wrote:

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:13:35 -0700, Daniel wrote:

    Which IRC server did you use?

    On good days I might remember what I had for breakfast the day before. My >> brief fling at IRC was probably 25 years ago. Not a clue.

    fwiw konversation connects to libera by default. #3Dprinting appears to >> be maintaining radio silence. 6552 channels and nothing on to paraphrase >> the Springsteen song. I suppose some of them must be active.

    Yeah people don't tend to have conversations unless someone has a
    question. I'm often idle for days. And Ihave threads with people that go
    back years.

    libera is a spinoff of freenode.

    And it's too recent for that, but if we're talking about defaults, maybe
    it was indeed Freenode, which nowadays is pretty much libera[.chat] in
    spirit, I don't even know whether Freenode still exists all these years
    since the... well, enshittification with the takeover.

    Lee didn't just do a network takeover, IIRC he ditched the whole
    services and channels database, imposed rules that allowed Trump-like retaliation and channel takeovers on grounds of "that's unallowed
    advertising" if anyone dared mention another IRC network; I think his
    freenode also started mandating SASL soon after the takeover. I'm not
    even sure if nowadays accounts can be registered over IRC without going
    to some website first. (Nor do I want to check.)

    Besides the way the takeover unfolded, this person also seemed to insist
    on some... nonsense, claiming that some country was "the oldest nation
    in the world since 1392" [1]. While I don't have a lot of information
    memorized on world history, I simply note that Portugal was established
    over two centuries before that...

    Thankfully, libera.chat was quickly created and a lot of projects moved
    either to Libera or to OFTC. (In fact, the situation was bad enough and deteriorated so quickly that several projects put out announcements that
    their support venues had changed. And, for example, Gentoo held an
    emergency council meeting [2].)

    For other names of international networks, there's for example also
    IRCnet and Eris-Free NETwork.

    [1] This claim can still be seen in https://old.freenode.net/
    [2] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20210523-summary.txt
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    Nuno Silva
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Oct 12 10:04:02 2025
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    On 2025-10-10, s|b wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 05:45:31 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/ is active but it seems to be mostly >> 'look what I made' rather than discussing the technology. You might find
    something useful with a search.

    Reddit is toxic as hell. The whole upvoting/downvoting is absurd. It regularly happens that people upvote a comment that is wrong, even after other users state that it is wrong. And then you've got the Karma thing
    and all the bots. Some time ago I came across a website that stated that
    50% of the messages on Reddit are bots. (Dead Internet is here.)

    That being said: you can always try. You don't need an account to get
    access to (most) subreddits.

    The idea of votes and ranking content by votes to me can destroy a
    conversation medium and promote the hiding of content in a way similar
    to "algorithmic social media". Although some of these vote-based sites
    probably have ways to display by chronological order, and so it probably
    isn't a barrier in itself.

    But, overall, its weakest spot is the interface. To me, Netnews
    wins. Especially regarding how flexible it is, compared to a website
    which ends up being mostly a one-size-fits-all UI endeavour (although
    at least old.reddit.com still exists...).

    These days it feels like this flexibility of working on top of open
    protocols without much restrictions on the client software is way too
    easily overlooked. See for example IRC, which enables text-based
    interfaces that can run on terminals and terminal emulators, graphical text-centered interfaces (HexChat, ChatZilla), some level of integration
    with IM interfaces (such as Pidgin n|-e Gaim), bridges with other similar
    media (e.g. XMPP) and also a comic strip interface (Microsoft Comic
    Chat).
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    Nuno Silva
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