• Coloured pills

    From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Sun Oct 5 16:43:34 2025
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    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
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  • From Tony Cooper@tonycooper214@gmail.com to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Sun Oct 5 11:14:40 2025
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    On Sun, 05 Oct 2025 16:43:34 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or >"blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?


    Terms used in the movie "The Matrix".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

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  • From Richard Heathfield@rjh@cpax.org.uk to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Sun Oct 5 16:15:23 2025
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    On 05/10/2025 15:43, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

    The red pill and blue pill are metaphorical terms representing a
    choice between learning an unsettling or life-changing truth by
    taking the red pill or remaining in the unquestioned experience
    of an illusion appearing as ordinary reality with the blue pill.
    The pills were used as props in the 1999 film The Matrix.


    (First para of long article)
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    Richard Heathfield
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Sun Oct 5 12:53:31 2025
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    In article <10bu22b$3ggi7$1
    @dont-email.me>,
    rjh@cpax.org.uk says...

    On 05/10/2025 15:43, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

    The red pill and blue pill are metaphorical terms representing a
    choice between learning an unsettling or life-changing truth by
    taking the red pill or remaining in the unquestioned experience
    of an illusion appearing as ordinary reality with the blue pill.
    The pills were used as props in the 1999 film The Matrix.

    In common parlance, red-
    pilled tends to mean becoming
    conservative while blue-
    pilled means becoming or
    remaining liberal. Being
    black-pilled usually means
    getting fed up with all of it
    and turning to general
    misanthropy.


    Melissa



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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Mon Oct 6 05:25:53 2025
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    On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 12:53:31 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <10bu22b$3ggi7$1
    @dont-email.me>,
    rjh@cpax.org.uk says...

    On 05/10/2025 15:43, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or
    "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

    The red pill and blue pill are metaphorical terms representing a
    choice between learning an unsettling or life-changing truth by
    taking the red pill or remaining in the unquestioned experience
    of an illusion appearing as ordinary reality with the blue pill.
    The pills were used as props in the 1999 film The Matrix.

    In common parlance, red-
    pilled tends to mean becoming
    conservative while blue-
    pilled means becoming or
    remaining liberal. Being
    black-pilled usually means
    getting fed up with all of it
    and turning to general
    misanthropy.

    Interesting.

    Unless I'm missing something, it therefore seems that in common
    parlance the meaning is the opposie from that in the movie "The
    Matrix" (which I haven't seen, and am now unlikely to be able to see).

    In my youth there used to be an advertising jingle, "You can stay as
    you like for the rest of your life or you can change to Mainstay"
    (Mainstay was a brand of alcoholic liquor maid from sugar cane).

    From what I've been told about "The Matrix" the you take the blue pill
    to stay as you are for the rest of your life, which would be the
    conservative option, surely?
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Mon Oct 6 05:34:48 2025
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    On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 12:53:31 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <10bu22b$3ggi7$1
    @dont-email.me>,
    rjh@cpax.org.uk says...

    On 05/10/2025 15:43, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or
    "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

    The red pill and blue pill are metaphorical terms representing a
    choice between learning an unsettling or life-changing truth by
    taking the red pill or remaining in the unquestioned experience
    of an illusion appearing as ordinary reality with the blue pill.
    The pills were used as props in the 1999 film The Matrix.

    In common parlance, red-
    pilled tends to mean becoming
    conservative while blue-
    pilled means becoming or
    remaining liberal. Being
    black-pilled usually means
    getting fed up with all of it
    and turning to general
    misanthropy.

    Another thought:

    In the Wikipedia article recommended by Tony Cooper I read:

    '"taking the red pill" or being "red-pilled" typically means becoming
    aware of perceived political biases in society, including those in
    mainstream media, and viewing oneself as an independent thinker;'

    Which I underst6and as one of the core meanings of being "woke".

    "whereas "taking the blue pill" or being "blue-pilled" generally means unquestioningly accepting these perceived biases."

    "Individuals who identify as "red pilled" often espouse conspiracy
    theories, antisemitism, white supremacy, homophobia, and misogyny."

    Weird inconsistency.

    So the meaning remains out of reach.
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@rundtosset@lundhansen.dk to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Mon Oct 6 06:29:25 2025
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    Den 06.10.2025 kl. 05.25 skrev Steve Hayes:

    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or
    "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

    The red pill and blue pill are metaphorical terms representing a
    choice between learning an unsettling or life-changing truth by
    taking the red pill or remaining in the unquestioned experience
    of an illusion appearing as ordinary reality with the blue pill.
    The pills were used as props in the 1999 film The Matrix.

    In common parlance, red-
    pilled tends to mean becoming
    conservative while blue-
    pilled means becoming or
    remaining liberal. Being
    black-pilled usually means
    getting fed up with all of it
    and turning to general
    misanthropy.

    Interesting.

    Unless I'm missing something, it therefore seems that in common
    parlance the meaning is the opposie from that in the movie "The
    Matrix" (which I haven't seen, and am now unlikely to be able to see).

    Yes, but that (the meaning that Melissa explained) may be caused by the Americam confusion where red means conservative in opposition to the
    rest of the world where red is the leftwing colour.

    From what I've been told about "The Matrix" the you take the blue pill
    to stay as you are for the rest of your life, which would be the
    conservative option, surely?

    Yes. The red pill will reveal to you that you are caught in the web of
    the Robotic Universe that sucks energy out of your body. The blue pill
    will keep you in the illusion that you have a life.

    Any similarity to modern life is unintentional.
    --
    Bertel, Kolt, Danmark

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Mon Oct 6 05:17:08 2025
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    In article
    <kud6ekllcc8uqfdhkaqa6fq92log
    i77jrq@4ax.com>,
    hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
    '"taking the red pill" or being "red-pilled" typically means becoming
    aware of perceived political biases in society, including those in
    mainstream media, and viewing oneself as an independent thinker;'

    Which I underst6and as one of the core meanings of being "woke".


    The people who use the term
    understand it differently,
    more as seeing through the
    bias of "woke" itself.


    Melissa

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage on Mon Oct 6 13:13:30 2025
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    On 05/10/2025 16:43, Steve Hayes wrote:
    I occasionally see references online to people being "red-pilled" or "blue-pilled" or black-pilled".

    Can anyone explain the meaning of these terms?



    The first seconds of this video is a stand-up comedian's take:

    https://youtu.be/HJReUNyYJZQ?t=2973
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