• I'm just curious...

    From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 08:43:30 2025
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    In my Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option
    of Enter Reader View. This opens the page content without all the other
    crap which now normally fills a Web page. It shows only the article and
    its pics. I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions still have this
    choice.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 14:45:59 2025
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    mark@invalid.net wrote:

    Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option of
    Enter Reader View. [...] I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions
    still have this choice.

    Yes, F9 keyboard shortcut, or the [=] icon in address bar.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 15:33:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 04/10/2025 14:45, Andy Burns wrote:

    mark@invalid.net wrote:

    Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option of
    Enter Reader View. [...] I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions
    still have this choice.

    Yes, F9 keyboard shortcut, or the [=] icon in address bar.

    Is F9 the shortcut in Windows for reader view? It doesn't work in Linux
    Mint; it's Ctrl-Alt-R. If I try Fn-F9 I get increased screen brightness
    on my laptop.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 09:46:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 14:45:59 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:


    mark@invalid.net wrote:

    Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option of
    Enter Reader View. [...] I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions
    still have this choice.

    Yes, F9 keyboard shortcut, or the [=] icon in address bar.

    Yeah, I was just curious. I read so much about how F'd up the newer FFx versions are and wondered if they also took out that really great item.

    Thanks for answering.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 15:47:08 2025
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    Jeff Layman wrote:

    Is F9 the shortcut in Windows for reader view?

    It is

    It doesn't work in Linux Mint; it's Ctrl-Alt-R. If I try Fn-F9 I get increased screen brightness on my laptop.
    Fn-F9 on win11 takes me to Windows Settings
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 10:03:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 10/4/2025 9:33 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 14:45, Andy Burns wrote:

    mark@invalid.net wrote:

    Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option of
    Enter Reader View. [...] I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions
    still have this choice.

    Yes, F9 keyboard shortcut, or the [=] icon in address bar.

    Is F9 the shortcut in Windows for reader view? It doesn't work in Linux Mint; it's Ctrl-Alt-R. If I try Fn-F9 I get increased screen brightness
    on my laptop.

    F9 works on my windows 10 box to take you in and out of reader view.
    But you only get the option if the page has a reader view. If it
    doesn't, it does nothing.
    --
    Science doesn't support Darwin. Scientists do.
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  • From EnDeeGee@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 11:15:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    In my Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option
    of Enter Reader View. This opens the page content without all the other
    crap which now normally fills a Web page. It shows only the article and
    its pics. I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions still have this
    choice.

    In my FF143 the icon for Reader View appears automatically in the url
    bar but not all sites have that option.
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 11:32:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    In my Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option
    of Enter Reader View. This opens the page content without all the other
    crap which now normally fills a Web page. It shows only the article and
    its pics. I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions still have this
    choice.

    In my FF143 the icon for Reader View appears automatically in the url
    bar but not all sites have that option.
    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of
    as the full screen option. If this is what you are trying to do, you
    can access it using F11, or
    customize the tool bar and drag the double headed arrow to the tool bar.

    Once on the tool bar all you have to do is click it to move from full
    screen to window. Full screen expands the Firefox window to take up
    the monitor screen and removes all tool bars except the basic on.
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  • From EnDeeGee@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 11:36:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 04-Oct-2025 11:32, knuttle wrote:
    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    In my Firefox 115.15 there is the View menu which gives one the option
    of Enter Reader View. This opens the page content without all the other
    crap which now normally fills a Web page. It shows only the article and
    its pics. I'm wondering if the newer Firefox versions still have this
    choice.

    In my FF143 the icon for Reader View appears automatically in the url
    bar but not all sites have that option.
    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of
    as the full screen option.-a-a If this is what you are trying to do, you
    can access it using F11, or
    customize the tool bar and drag the double headed arrow to the tool bar.

    Once on the tool bar all you have to do is click it to move from full
    screen to window.-a-a Full screen expands the Firefox window to take up
    the monitor screen and removes all tool bars except the basic on.

    I know about F11 and Reader View as nothing to do with Full Screen.


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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 16:46:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    knuttle wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of
    as the full screen option.

    It's not full-screen, it's a view with less "clutter" (here clutter may include garish colours, multiple fonts, unnecessary images, adverts).

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  • From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 11:28:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 11:32:41 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of
    as the full screen option.

    Has nothing ot do with full screen option. Going full screen just
    magnifies all the crap on a page.
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  • From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 11:33:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 16:46:11 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:

    knuttle wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of
    as the full screen option.

    It's not full-screen, it's a view with less "clutter" (here clutter may >include garish colours, multiple fonts, unnecessary images, adverts).

    "Less clutter" on my 115 Firefox means absoluteley nothing but the
    text of the article and any pictures posted regarding the article show.

    It doesn't work on the main page of the site itself, only when you
    select an article on that site.
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 17:18:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 10/4/25 12:28 PM, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 11:32:41 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of
    as the full screen option.

    Has nothing ot do with full screen option. Going full screen just
    magnifies all the crap on a page.
    Got a sample page that has reader view?
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2, Thunderbird 128.14.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 143.0.1
    Alan K.
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  • From Frank Miller@miller@posteo.ee to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 23:31:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Alan K. wrote:
    On 10/4/25 12:28 PM, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 11:32:41 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of >>> as the full screen option.

    Has nothing ot do with full screen option. Going full screen just
    magnifies all the crap on a page.
    Got a sample page that has reader view?

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  • From Clickbaits Are Dangerous@click_here@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 21:55:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 04/10/2025 15:46, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    I read so much about how F'd up the newer FFx
    versions are

    Don't believe everything you read on clickbait websites or in
    newsgroups. Some people are always looking for something to complain
    about. Always carry out your own testing before jumping to any firm conclusions.





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  • From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 17:19:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 17:18:30 -0400, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 10/4/25 12:28 PM, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 11:32:41 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of >>> as the full screen option.

    Has nothing ot do with full screen option. Going full screen just
    magnifies all the crap on a page.

    Got a sample page that has reader view?

    Take a look at the page link below and see the actual Web page.

    https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/04/donald-trump-administration-targets-unaccompanied-minor-migrants-self-deport-incentive-2500-dollars-program/
    =================
    Here is the entire page in Reader's View. Only the article and the 2
    pics from the page show.

    dailycaller.com
    Trump Administration Reportedly Ramping Up Deportations With New
    Incentive Targeting Key Demographic
    Audrey Streb
    4u5 minutes

    The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is reportedly offering
    unaccompanied minors $2,500 if they voluntarily leave the U.S. and
    return to their home countries, according to multiple reports.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) informed migrant shelters that teenagers 14 years or older could self-deport and claim the financial
    incentive if they respond to the offer within 24 hours, according to an
    email obtained by The Associated Press (AP). The Trump administration
    had already planned to offer incentives for illegal migrants to
    self-deport, including a $1,000 stipend and flight assistance.

    oICE and the Office of Refugee and Resettlement at HHS are offering a
    strictly voluntary option to return home to their families. This
    voluntary option gives UACs [unaccompanied alien children] a choice and
    allows them to make an informed decision about their future,o an ICE spokesperson told the Daily Caller News Foundation. (RELATED: Ex-Biden
    Admin Official In Charge Of Unaccompanied Children Says She DoesnAt
    Believe In Deportation)

    US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem holds up a sign encouraging undocumented migrants to "self-deport" during a roundtable discussion as
    she visits a migrant detention center, dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz,"
    located at the site of the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport
    in Ochopee, Florida, on July 1, 2025. (Photo by ANDREW
    CABALLERO-REYNOLDS/AFP via Getty Images)

    US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem holds up a sign encouraging undocumented migrants to oself-deporto during a roundtable discussion as
    she visits a migrant detention center, dubbed oAlligator Alcatraz,o
    located at the site of the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport
    in Ochopee, Florida, on July 1, 2025. (Photo by ANDREW
    CABALLERO-REYNOLDS/AFP via Getty Images)

    ICE told the DCNF that the offer would initially be for 17-year-olds,
    though it did not confirm the details of the incentives. The email to
    shelters did not indicate there would be consequences for minors who
    didnAt accept the offer, according to the AP. There were over 2,000
    migrant children in the custody of the Department of Health and Human
    Services as of Oct. 2, according to agency data.

    Cartelville Text

    oAny payment to support a return home would be provided after an
    immigration judge grants the request and the individual arrives in their country of origin. Access to financial support when returning home would
    assist should they choose that option,o ICE told the DCNF in a
    statement. oCartels trafficked countless unaccompanied children into the
    United States during the Biden Administration, and DHS and HHS have been working diligently to ensure the safety and wellbeing of those children.
    a Many of these UACs had no choice when they were dangerously smuggled
    into this country.o

    The ICE spokesperson also noted that oanti-ICE activists have made up a ridiculous term, aFreaky Friday,A to instill fear and spread
    misinformation that drives the increased violence occurring against
    federal law enforcement.o

    President Donald Trump campaigned on cracking down on illegal migration.
    DHS subsequently announced that over two million illegal migrants have self-deported or obeen removedo from the U.S. in the first 250 days of
    TrumpAs second term.

    Notably, the agency also said the ongoing federal government shutdown
    will not impede its large-scale deportation efforts.

    oDespite a lapse in funding, ICE will continue to remove the worst of
    the worst criminal illegal aliens including rapists, pedophiles,
    murderers, gang members and terrorists from our country,o DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement previously obtained by
    the DCNF. oThanks to the Trump AdministrationAs signature piece of
    legislation, the One Big Beautiful Bill, we will continue to hire,
    train, and deploy law enforcement across the country to make America
    safe again.o

    EditorAs note: This report was updated to reflect a statement from DHS
    received by the Daily Caller News Foundation.

    All content created by the Daily Caller News Foundation, an independent
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  • From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 17:20:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 23:31:31 +0200, Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee>
    wrote:

    Alan K. wrote:
    On 10/4/25 12:28 PM, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 11:32:41 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of >>>> as the full screen option.

    Has nothing ot do with full screen option. Going full screen just
    magnifies all the crap on a page.
    Got a sample page that has reader view?

    https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/trump-friedensplan-nahost-hamas-israel-100.html

    That is not the Reader View of that page. It's the normal page with all
    the junk showing.
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  • From mark@mark@invalid.net to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 17:24:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 21:55:57 +0000, Clickbaits Are Dangerous <click_here@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 04/10/2025 15:46, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    I read so much about how F'd up the newer FFx
    versions are

    Don't believe everything you read on clickbait websites or in
    newsgroups. Some people are always looking for something to complain
    about. Always carry out your own testing before jumping to any firm >conclusions.

    The complaints in the Windows 10 or 11 groups are endless. The forums
    are the same. The last MS OS that was best for the average non-tech
    user was XP. Unfortunately, my XP machine expired a few months back.
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  • From Frank Miller@miller@posteo.ee to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Oct 5 00:52:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    mark@invalid.net wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 23:31:31 +0200, Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee>
    wrote:

    Alan K. wrote:
    On 10/4/25 12:28 PM, mark@invalid.net wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 11:32:41 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 11:15 AM, EnDeeGee wrote:
    On 04-Oct-2025 09:43, mark@invalid.net wrote:

    I don't know what the reader view is, BUT it seems to be what I think of >>>>> as the full screen option.

    Has nothing ot do with full screen option. Going full screen just
    magnifies all the crap on a page.
    Got a sample page that has reader view?
    https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/trump-friedensplan-nahost-hamas-israel-100.html

    That is not the Reader View of that page. It's the normal page with all
    the junk showing.

    Of course you have to choose the reader view in Firefox first.
    There isn't any automatism for that.
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  • From Mark Lloyd@not.email@all.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Oct 4 23:59:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 17:24:38 -0500, mark wrote:

    [snip]

    The complaints in the Windows 10 or 11 groups are endless. The forums
    are the same. The last MS OS that was best for the average non-tech
    user was XP. Unfortunately, my XP machine expired a few months back.

    You can always install XP on a virtual machine. I have that, since XP
    seems a good platform for testing my website with old browsers.

    I used to have a lot of problems with updating XP, but no more of those problems since no more updates.

    Also, I considered Win 7 (and nothing above that) to be better.
    --
    82 days until the winter celebration (Thursday, December 25, 2025 12:00
    AM for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Sex education classes are like in-home sales parties for abortions."
    [Phyllis Schlafly]
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  • From Mark Lloyd@not.email@all.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Oct 5 00:08:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 17:20:57 -0500, mark wrote:

    [snip]

    That is not the Reader View of that page. It's the normal page with all
    the junk showing.

    There is a button for Reader View.

    I also got an offer to translate from German to English.
    --
    82 days until the winter celebration (Thursday, December 25, 2025 12:00
    AM for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Sex education classes are like in-home sales parties for abortions."
    [Phyllis Schlafly]
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Oct 5 08:04:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 05/10/2025 00:59, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 17:24:38 -0500, mark wrote:

    [snip]

    The complaints in the Windows 10 or 11 groups are endless. The forums
    are the same. The last MS OS that was best for the average non-tech
    user was XP. Unfortunately, my XP machine expired a few months back.

    You can always install XP on a virtual machine. I have that, since XP
    seems a good platform for testing my website with old browsers.

    I used to have a lot of problems with updating XP, but no more of those problems since no more updates.

    Also, I considered Win 7 (and nothing above that) to be better.

    +1

    My Windows use was 3.1, NT4, XP, 7. I went to NT4 for business use,
    security, and stability (over 95).

    Now it's Linux Mint only.
    --
    Jeff
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