• unwanted update made ff worse

    From Handsome Jack@jack@handsome.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 09:09:54 2025
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    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)


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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 10:18:43 2025
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    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps? And how is that Mozilla's fault?

    I could also watch Youtube videos without getting the ad
    interruptions.

    I find that with avascript disabled, not only are the adverts gone, so
    are the videos ...
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 11:34:30 2025
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    Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)




    Just out of interest, what level of Mint were you running before?
    Simply uninstalling your FF 143.0.1 and then installing an older version
    is not without its dangers - new FF versions sometimes reformat files in
    your profile, and an older version will not necessarily "understand" the
    new files. Downgrading could easily cost you some of your history, so
    take a backup of your profile(s) before you start.
    Maybe installing something like Noscript would be a better alternative,
    do some research on what the Daily Nail and the Telegraph are doing and
    how to stop it. The same applies to Youtube - I know I've seen a
    discussion on that somewhere recently.
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  • From Rob van der Putten@rob@sput.nl to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 11:51:01 2025
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    Hi there


    On 28/09/2025 11:09, Handsome Jack wrote:

    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Here, upgrading from 128 to 140 caused fuzzy images. Setting DPI to 96
    solved this. The alternative would been changing
    'layout.css.devPixelsPerPx'.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript.
    Usually I have both cookies and JavaScript off. I can read both papers
    this way.
    Some other papers I read by:
    - Switch both cookies and JavaScript on.
    - Click OK.
    - Switch JavaScript off, leave cookies on.

    I use a bookmark as a JavaScript switch;
    about:config?filter=javascript.enabled
    Next I cut and paste 'javascript.enabled' to the preference search bar
    and toggle true/false.

    I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    I can't watch videos without JavaScript.
    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)
    Regards,
    Rob

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  • From Handsome Jack@jack@handsome.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 10:13:07 2025
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    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    And how is that Mozilla's fault?

    I didn't say or imply it was.


    I could also watch Youtube videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    I find that with avascript disabled, not only are the adverts gone, so
    are the videos ...

    I never said or implied that I disabled javascript to watch Youtube. But
    then, I can read.
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  • From Handsome Jack@jack@handsome.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 10:18:22 2025
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    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 11:34:30 +0200, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness,
    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version
    has been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)




    Just out of interest, what level of Mint were you running before?

    Version 21.2.


    Simply
    uninstalling your FF 143.0.1 and then installing an older version is not without its dangers - new FF versions sometimes reformat files in your profile, and an older version will not necessarily "understand" the new files. Downgrading could easily cost you some of your history, so take
    a backup of your profile(s) before you start.

    I don't generally want to save my history anyway.


    Maybe installing something like Noscript would be a better alternative,

    I have "Disable JavaScript" extension installed. I used to use NoScript
    but it disables too many vital functions (especially card payment) even
    when javascript is enabled for the site.

    do some research on what the Daily Nail and the Telegraph are doing and
    how to stop it. The same applies to Youtube - I know I've seen a
    discussion on that somewhere recently.

    That's what I am doing here.


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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 11:24:05 2025
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    Handsome Jack wrote:

    R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    do some research on what the Daily Nail and the Telegraph are
    doing and how to stop it.

    That's what I am doing here.
    I have generally found disabling JS works for The Telegraph, but
    nowadays I tend to just flip into 'reader mode'.
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  • From Mark Lloyd@not.email@all.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 16:05:49 2025
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    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 11:51:01 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:

    [snip]

    I can't watch videos without JavaScript.

    HTML5 AUDIO/VIDEO does not need Javascript (since (IIRC) Firefox 4). Most sites won't play video without JS, maybe so they can disable the
    "download" option.
    --
    88 days until the winter celebration (Thursday, December 25, 2025 12:00
    AM for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of
    donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." - Ezekiel 23:20
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 10:21:32 2025
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    On 9/28/25 02:09, Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)

    It's a bit late now, but it's possible to prevent updates to firefox .

    In whatever subdirectory your firefox program is stored, create a new subdirectory called policies which will contain a file called
    policies.json which contains:

    {
    "policies": {
    "DisableAppUpdate": true
    }
    }

    To do the same thing to Thunderbird, create a subdirectory called
    distribution instead of policies and put the same policies.json file in it.

    Thanks to whoever told me about this magical solution.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I don't think they could put him in a mental hospital.
    On the other hand, if he were already in, I don't think
    they'd let him out." -- Greek Geek


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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 20:43:17 2025
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    The Real Bev wrote:
    On 9/28/25 02:09, Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I
    upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)

    It's a bit late now, but it's possible to prevent updates to firefox .

    In whatever subdirectory your firefox program is stored, create a new subdirectory called policies which will contain a file called
    policies.json which contains:

    -a{
    -a "policies": {
    -a-a-a "DisableAppUpdate": true
    -a }
    }

    To do the same thing to Thunderbird, create a subdirectory called distribution instead of policies and put the same policies.json file in it.

    Thanks to whoever told me about this magical solution.


    Not helpful in this case. He updated to a new level of Linux Mint and
    that Firefox level was part of it.
    Policies are a good thing though, particularly under Linux. I have mine
    in the file /etc/firefox/policies/policies.json and they work fine from
    there. Look at about:policies and https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson for the documentation.
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 20:53:11 2025
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    Handsome Jack wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 11:34:30 +0200, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness,
    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version
    has been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)




    Just out of interest, what level of Mint were you running before?

    Version 21.2.


    Simply
    uninstalling your FF 143.0.1 and then installing an older version is not
    without its dangers - new FF versions sometimes reformat files in your
    profile, and an older version will not necessarily "understand" the new
    files. Downgrading could easily cost you some of your history, so take
    a backup of your profile(s) before you start.

    I don't generally want to save my history anyway.


    Maybe installing something like Noscript would be a better alternative,

    I have "Disable JavaScript" extension installed. I used to use NoScript
    but it disables too many vital functions (especially card payment) even
    when javascript is enabled for the site.

    do some research on what the Daily Nail and the Telegraph are doing and
    how to stop it. The same applies to Youtube - I know I've seen a
    discussion on that somewhere recently.

    That's what I am doing here.



    As far as I can see, that version of Mint came with Firefox 118.0.1 - at
    least I found a cry for help from someone running that level of Firefox
    under Mint 21.2. Since he was having network problems, he had probably
    not managed to update his Firefox from the originally installed version.
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  • From Frank Miller@miller@posteo.ee to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 21:10:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    The Real Bev wrote:
    On 9/28/25 02:09, Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I
    upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)

    It's a bit late now, but it's possible to prevent updates to firefox .

    In whatever subdirectory your firefox program is stored, create a new subdirectory called policies which will contain a file called
    policies.json which contains:

    {
    "policies": {
    "DisableAppUpdate": true
    }
    }

    To do the same thing to Thunderbird, create a subdirectory called distribution instead of policies and put the same policies.json file in it.

    Thanks to whoever told me about this magical solution.

    I guess it was me. But i also think this won't work, if you use the
    regular Linux package management or even (like in this case) upgrade
    the whole system.
    Because if you fetch FF from the repositories of your distribution
    it gets updated anyways and the policies.json will vanish.
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  • From Gorgeous Jill@jill@gorgeous.example to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 19:31:21 2025
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    Handsome Jack wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    Firefox *is* a part of Linux Mint. Firefox comes preinstalled in Linux
    Mint, and serves as its default web browser.

    FYI the version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives updates
    through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated directly by Mozilla as a standalone application.


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  • From Gorgeous Jill@jill@gorgeous.example to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 19:31:22 2025
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    The Real Bev wrote:

    On 9/28/25 02:09, Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I
    upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version
    of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has
    been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)

    It's a bit late now, but it's possible to prevent updates to firefox .

    In whatever subdirectory your firefox program is stored, create a new subdirectory called policies which will contain a file called
    policies.json which contains:

    -a{
    -a "policies": {
    -a-a-a "DisableAppUpdate": true
    -a }
    }


    This will *not* stop the Linux Mint Update Manager from updating
    Firefox. The version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives
    updates through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated
    directly by Mozilla as a standalone application.


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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Sep 28 23:35:52 2025
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    On 9/28/25 12:31, Gorgeous Jill wrote:
    The Real Bev wrote:

    On 9/28/25 02:09, Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I >>> upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version >>> of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has >>> been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)

    It's a bit late now, but it's possible to prevent updates to firefox .

    In whatever subdirectory your firefox program is stored, create a new
    subdirectory called policies which will contain a file called
    policies.json which contains:

    {
    -a "policies": {
    -a-a-a "DisableAppUpdate": true
    -a }
    }

    This will *not* stop the Linux Mint Update Manager from updating
    Firefox. The version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives
    updates through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated
    directly by Mozilla as a standalone application.

    What if you chmod the policies subdirectory read-only?

    I can't update my slackware due to elderly hardware. Yes, I've tried.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I am working for the time when unqualified blacks, browns and
    women join the unqualified men in running our government"
    -- Cissy Farenthold
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  • From Handsome Jack@jack@handsome.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Sep 29 06:51:16 2025
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    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 19:31:21 -0000 (UTC), Gorgeous Jill wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    Firefox *is* a part of Linux Mint. Firefox comes preinstalled in Linux
    Mint, and serves as its default web browser.

    Looks like it is no longer of any use to me then. Does anyone have an
    answer to my question about rolling back to a properly functional version?
    Or on moving to a more useful browser?

    FYI the version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives updates through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated directly by Mozilla as a standalone application.

    Yes, I noticed that. So does thunderbird. It was useful to be given the
    option of updating or not.

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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Sep 29 16:42:22 2025
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    Frank Miller wrote:
    The Real Bev wrote:
    On 9/28/25 02:09, Handsome Jack wrote:
    I use Firefox under Linux Mint. A few days ago, in a moment of madness, I >>> upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my version >>> of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Previously, I could view all articles on the Daily Telegraph and Daily
    Mail, usually by switching off Javascript. I could also watch Youtube
    videos without getting the ad interruptions.

    Now I can't do any of those things. I assume that the new FF version has >>> been modified to prevent me. Thank you *so* much, chaps.

    Anyone know how I can undo the update? (I don't know what version I was
    using before, but I know I hadn't updated it for at least a year.)

    It's a bit late now, but it's possible to prevent updates to firefox .

    In whatever subdirectory your firefox program is stored, create a new
    subdirectory called policies which will contain a file called
    policies.json which contains:

    {
    "policies": {
    "DisableAppUpdate": true
    }
    }

    To do the same thing to Thunderbird, create a subdirectory called
    distribution instead of policies and put the same policies.json file in it. >>
    Thanks to whoever told me about this magical solution.

    I guess it was me. But i also think this won't work, if you use the
    regular Linux package management or even (like in this case) upgrade
    the whole system.
    Because if you fetch FF from the repositories of your distribution
    it gets updated anyways and the policies.json will vanish.


    Look at my post immediately above yours, it tells you where to put the policies.json file. I'm assuming Mint does not nuke the /etc contents.
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Sep 29 08:12:06 2025
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    On 9/28/25 23:51, Handsome Jack wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 19:31:21 -0000 (UTC), Gorgeous Jill wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    Firefox *is* a part of Linux Mint. Firefox comes preinstalled in Linux
    Mint, and serves as its default web browser.

    Looks like it is no longer of any use to me then. Does anyone have an
    answer to my question about rolling back to a properly functional version?
    Or on moving to a more useful browser?

    Backup a copy of your current profile where it won't get lost or written
    over. Maybe write-protect it.

    Go to the mozilla site. Flail around until you find the list of ALL
    linux firefox releases. Pick the one you want. Create a NEW
    subdirectory to unpack it into. DO NOT just type 'firefox' to run from
    now on.

    Go into the subdirectory that now contains the firefox executable and
    execute firefox ONLY from there. ./firefox&

    It will create a new profile for you. Force a copy of the contents of
    your old profile into the new profile.

    I have never just updated a firefox or thunderbird release. I always
    keep the new version in a separate subdirectory and copy over my old
    profile into the new profile. HD space is cheap, and I must have 20
    different versions I can run.

    There MAY be a problem with an older firefox running a newer profile,
    and I couldn't figure out a way to get around that. Maybe someone else can.

    FYI the version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives updates
    through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated directly by
    Mozilla as a standalone application.

    Yes, I noticed that. So does thunderbird. It was useful to be given the option of updating or not.

    Does write-protecting subdirectories (at least temporarily) work when
    Mint (or other distro) updates?
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I am working for the time when unqualified blacks, browns and
    women join the unqualified men in running our government"
    -- Cissy Farenthold
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Sep 29 15:20:36 2025
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    On 09/29/2025 11:12 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 9/28/25 23:51, Handsome Jack wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 19:31:21 -0000 (UTC), Gorgeous Jill wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my >>>>>> version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    Firefox *is* a part of Linux Mint. Firefox comes preinstalled in Linux
    Mint, and serves as its default web browser.

    Looks like it is no longer of any use to me then. Does anyone have an
    answer to my question about rolling back to a properly functional
    version?
    Or on moving to a more useful browser?

    Backup a copy of your current profile where it won't get lost or written over.-a Maybe write-protect it.

    Go to the mozilla site.-a Flail around until you find the list of ALL
    linux firefox releases.-a Pick the one you want.-a Create a NEW
    subdirectory to unpack it into.-a DO NOT just type 'firefox' to run from
    now on.

    Go into the subdirectory that now contains the firefox executable-a and execute firefox ONLY from there.-a ./firefox&

    It will create a new profile for you.-a Force a copy of the contents of
    your old profile into the new profile.

    I have never just updated a firefox or thunderbird release.-a I always
    keep the new version in a separate subdirectory and copy over my old
    profile into the new profile.-a HD space is cheap, and I must have 20 different versions I can run.

    There MAY be a problem with an older firefox running a newer profile,
    and I couldn't figure out a way to get around that.-a Maybe someone else can.

    FYI the version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives updates
    through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated directly by >>> Mozilla as a standalone application.

    Yes, I noticed that. So does thunderbird. It was useful to be given the
    option of updating or not.

    Does write-protecting subdirectories (at least temporarily) work when
    Mint (or other distro) updates?

    It depends on which version you want to revert to. Some versions
    changed things in the profile that made the profile incompatible with
    some older version. That is true of Windows I don't know about Mint
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Sep 29 23:23:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    knuttle wrote:
    On 09/29/2025 11:12 AM, The Real Bev wrote:

    Does write-protecting subdirectories (at least temporarily) work when
    Mint (or other distro) updates?

    It depends on which version you want to revert to.-a-a Some versions
    changed things in the profile that made the profile incompatible with
    some older version. That is true of Windows I don't know about Mint

    If the Windows version of Firefox level X updates the profile - making
    it incompatible with lower levels - the Linux version will do exactly
    the same.

    btw, I don't think making the install directory read-only would help
    here. A Mint level upgrade will presumably run with god-like powers and
    will ignore such restrictions, either that or it will abort the
    installation.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Sep 30 07:22:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 23:35:52 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

    On 9/28/25 12:31, Gorgeous Jill wrote:

    This will *not* stop the Linux Mint Update Manager from updating
    Firefox. The version of Firefox that comes with Linux Mint receives
    updates through Mint's own Update Manager, rather than being updated
    directly by Mozilla as a standalone application.

    What if you chmod the policies subdirectory read-only?

    ItrCOs ignored. Firefox builds in typical Linux distros leave out the auto- update mechanism.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Sep 30 21:30:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2025-09-28 12:13, Handsome Jack wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    Handsome Jack wrote:

    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my
    version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    Ridiculous.

    Upgrading a Linux distro upgrades everything, except those things
    installed manually outside of the distro.

    This is common knowledge. Linux is not Windows.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From Frank Miller@miller@posteo.ee to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Sep 30 21:51:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    The Real Bev wrote:
    On 9/28/25 23:51, Handsome Jack wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 19:31:21 -0000 (UTC), Gorgeous Jill wrote:
    Handsome Jack wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 10:18:43 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
    Handsome Jack wrote:
    I upgraded Mint to version 21.3. Without asking me, it upgraded my >>>>>> version of Firefox to release 143.0.1.

    Why are you surprised that upgrading you Linux distro upgrades your
    apps?

    Because Firefox is not part of Linux. How can this not be obvious?

    Firefox *is* a part of Linux Mint. Firefox comes preinstalled in Linux
    Mint, and serves as its default web browser.

    Looks like it is no longer of any use to me then. Does anyone have an
    answer to my question about rolling back to a properly functional version? >> Or on moving to a more useful browser?

    Backup a copy of your current profile where it won't get lost or written over. Maybe write-protect it.

    Go to the mozilla site. Flail around until you find the list of ALL
    linux firefox releases.

    https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
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