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https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2025/09/05/firefox-32-bit-linux-support-to-end-in-2026/

That'll be bad for me running it on my x86 Eee PC, which does still
work quite well for most things I do. EOL for Firefox 140 ESR is
October 13 2026.
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not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Wrote in message:

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2025/09/05/firefox-32-bit-linux-support-to-end-in-2026/

That'll be bad for me running it on my x86 Eee PC, which does still
work quite well for most things I do. EOL for Firefox 140 ESR is
October 13 2026.

Was that one of the Linux Eee PCs with Star Office? I had one. V e
r y s l o w.

The recent Debian release no longer supports 32-bit processors.
Fortunately I managed to update the CPU in my 2006 Thinkpad to a
later 64-bit one so I can now run the same 64-bit Debian as my
desktop. But the mobo chipset only supports 32bit memory
addressing so I still have a limit of 4Gb of memory. A bit less
in fact.

Most things work but it sometimes crashes playing videos, which
takes xfce down. I suspect it may be the built-in graphics which
is not quite supported.
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 07:00:16 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Dave Royal wrote:

Was that one of the Linux Eee PCs with Star Office? I had one. V e
r y s l o w.

Just about small enough to fit in a pants pocket. I used it as a portable terminal into a Linux server at a clientrCOs place -- I could watch the log messages from my Asterisk-based application while coordinating with an operator was making calls to test a new version of the code.
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Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:

not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Wrote in message:

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2025/09/05/firefox-32-bit-linux-support-to-end-in-2026/

That'll be bad for me running it on my x86 Eee PC, which does still
work quite well for most things I do. EOL for Firefox 140 ESR is
October 13 2026.

Was that one of the Linux Eee PCs with Star Office? I had one. V e
r y s l o w.

I've only had it a few years. It originally had XP installed but
the SSD was faulty and had wrecked that when I got it. I
repartitioned in the upper half of the SSD and installed Linux
there - a lightweight distro that still fits easily in that space.

Inappropriate software choices (including things like the window
manager) might make it "V e r y s l o w". Mine mainly run
lightning quick. The exception is Firefox which is quite slow to
start, but even some relatively complex sites like OpenStreetMap
run well in it once it's going (and with RAM upgraded to the 2GB
maximum). I prefer Dillo for browsing simpler websites anyway.

The recent Debian release no longer supports 32-bit processors.

It's running Tiny Core Linux, which isn't Debian based so no
problem there.

Fortunately I managed to update the CPU in my 2006 Thinkpad to a
later 64-bit one so I can now run the same 64-bit Debian as my
desktop. But the mobo chipset only supports 32bit memory
addressing so I still have a limit of 4Gb of memory. A bit less
in fact.

Most things work but it sometimes crashes playing videos, which
takes xfce down. I suspect it may be the built-in graphics which
is not quite supported.

Sounds similar to the Thinkpad with a Core 2 Duo CPU I run current
x86_64 Devuan on. No crashes there but it has AMD Radeon graphics.
The Eee PC plays videos fine for me too, but I re-encode downloaded
videos at less demanding resolutions and formats. Also I never play
videos in Firefox anywhere, that seems wrong to me in all sorts of
ways.
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On 7 Sep 2025 17:10:49 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Inappropriate software choices (including things like the window
manager) might make it "V e r y s l o w". Mine mainly run lightning
quick.

Mine ran fine under KDE Plasma 4, with all the real-time 3D effects nice
and smooth. Remember when MicrosoftrCOs Windows Vista struggled to match
that functionality with its rCLAero GlassrCY interface, that would only work properly on higher-end, more expensive hardware.

That issue led to lawsuits over the confusion between rCLVista-capablerCY and rCLVista-readyrCY: one of them meant that Vista would run, but without the effects. I forget which was which, and naturally the users couldnrCOt keep
it straight either, hence the lawsuits.
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not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Wrote in message:

Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
[snip]

The recent Debian release no longer supports 32-bit processors.

[snip

Fortunately I managed to update the CPU in my 2006 Thinkpad to a
later 64-bit one so I can now run the same 64-bit Debian as my
desktop. But the mobo chipset only supports 32bit memory
addressing so I still have a limit of 4Gb of memory. A bit less
in fact.

Most things work but it sometimes crashes playing videos, which
takes xfce down. I suspect it may be the built-in graphics which
is not quite supported.

Sounds similar to the Thinkpad with a Core 2 Duo CPU I run current
x86_64 Devuan on. No crashes there but it has AMD Radeon graphics.
[snip]

Yes, it was a core duo T2300E and it's now a core 2 duo T7200. So
it's no longer a R60e but it's not exactly an R60 or an R61. If
I'm right about the inadequate graphics there are vaious gfx
adapters that might fit. But some might need a different display
panel... It was worth -u6 for the CPU, but I'm not going to spend
a lot on it.

I still use it because it has a good keyboard.
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 07:00:16 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Dave Royal wrote:

[snip]

Was that one of the Linux Eee PCs with Star Office? I had one. V e
r y s l o w.

I used to have one of those Eee PCs. It ws the last 32-bit machine I ran
Linux on. It was very slow, and the built-in touchpad failed erratically
too (would take 2-3 clicks to get one to work).

[snip]
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Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> Wrote in message:

On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 07:00:16 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Dave Royal wrote:

[snip]

Was that one of the Linux Eee PCs with Star Office? I had one. V e
r y s l o w.

I used to have one of those Eee PCs. It ws the last 32-bit machine I ran Linux on. It was very slow, and the built-in touchpad failed erratically
too (would take 2-3 clicks to get one to work).

Yes, that was it: I was trying to remember how it failed. We were
on a yacht in the Mediterranean and used to take it ashore in the
evening looking for a meal and a weather forecast and to collect
email. After a meal we would sometimes prowl about the streets of
harbour towns with it looking for an insecure wifi connection -
which I wouldn't do with a full-size laptop.

This was before I got a Nokia N810 tablet for that purpose. (Which
was the first mobile device to run Firefox.)
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On 7/9/2025 7:19 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2025/09/05/firefox-32-bit-linux-support-to-end-in-2026/

That'll be bad for me running it on my x86 Eee PC, which does still
work quite well for most things I do. EOL for Firefox 140 ESR is
October 13 2026.

Because of year 2038 issue, you really should migrate to 64-bit OS!!
Sooner or later all 32-bit stuffs would lose support, just like 16-bit
and back then 8-bit.

I got an old iPad that ran 32-bit iOS ... no more updates now. :)

Year 2038 problem - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
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On 08/09/2025 11:06, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Because of year 2038 issue, you really should migrate to 64-bit OS!!

This is yet another false Y2K claim. This one is called 'Y2K38'.
According to the theory, aeroplanes will fall from the sky at exactly
03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038. They're still using Linux.

Make sure you get Windows 11 and upgrade to the latest version when it
is released. Let's hope you'll still be alive by then! Donald Trump
won't be around that is for sure! As you may all know that he invented
AI and all the tech bosses have confirmed it last week at WH banquet. Albert Arnold Gore Jr
invented Internet and Donald Trump invented AI.




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Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 07:25 this Sunday (GMT):

On 7 Sep 2025 17:10:49 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Inappropriate software choices (including things like the window
manager) might make it "V e r y s l o w". Mine mainly run lightning
quick.

Mine ran fine under KDE Plasma 4, with all the real-time 3D effects nice
and smooth. Remember when MicrosoftrCOs Windows Vista struggled to match that functionality with its rCLAero GlassrCY interface, that would only work properly on higher-end, more expensive hardware.

That issue led to lawsuits over the confusion between rCLVista-capablerCY and
rCLVista-readyrCY: one of them meant that Vista would run, but without the effects. I forget which was which, and naturally the users couldnrCOt keep it straight either, hence the lawsuits.

Bet the marketing team felt real clever coming up with that one.
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In article <109mjp5$8hjo$1@paganini.bofh.team>,
Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> wrote:
[Snippy]

Donald Trump invented AI.

Considering Donald is a Wan**r, I'm not surprised he needed Artificial Insemination... ;-)

D.

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On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 18:06:55 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Because of year 2038 issue, you really should migrate to 64-bit OS!!

Actually, most 32-bit OSes will have been modified to use 64 bits for the time. However, that may not be as reliable as a 64-bit OS.

Sooner or later all 32-bit stuffs would lose support, just like 16-bit
and back then 8-bit.

And 4-bit. I never used oe that old but I've heard a lot about them in college.

I got an old iPad that ran 32-bit iOS ... no more updates now. :)

Year 2038 problem - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

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On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:49:08 +0000, Jack wrote:

On 08/09/2025 11:06, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Because of year 2038 issue, you really should migrate to 64-bit OS!!

This is yet another false Y2K claim. This one is called 'Y2K38'.
According to the theory, aeroplanes will fall from the sky at exactly 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038. They're still using Linux.

Most of these things won't happen (like they didn't happen in 2000).
That's because the problems have already been fixed.

Make sure you get Windows 11 and upgrade to the latest version when it
is released. Let's hope you'll still be alive by then! Donald Trump
won't be around that is for sure! As you may all know that he invented
AI and all the tech bosses have confirmed it last week at WH banquet.
Albert Arnold Gore Jr invented Internet and Donald Trump invented AI.

I don't usually make political comments, but I do remember hearing that
the good thing about Trump being elected in 2024 is that is cannot happen again.
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 18:06:55 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Because of year 2038 issue, you really should migrate to 64-bit OS!!
Sooner or later all 32-bit stuffs would lose support ...

While that may be true, the year-2038 problem isnrCOt going to be one of the reasons. The Linux kernel has been updated so it can be built with a 64-
bit time_t even on 32-bit architectures.

Notice all the recent Debian packages with rCLt64rCY in their names? Those are the ones that needed updating for 64-bit time_t on 32-bit architectures.
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On 08 Sep 2025 19:38:46 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

Actually, most 32-bit OSes will have been modified to use 64 bits for
the time.

rCLmost 32-bit OSesrCY = rCLLinuxrCY.

However, that may not be as reliable as a 64-bit OS.

It will take you past the year-2038 problem, so long as the userland apps
and libs have been properly recompiled.
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On 8/9/2025 8:49 pm, Jack wrote:

This is yet another false Y2K claim. This one is called 'Y2K38'.
According to the theory, aeroplanes will fall from the sky at exactly 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038. They're still using Linux.

There are applications that do not need accurate dates... I knew what
you were talking about. I also was told that you could do 64-bit maths
using 32-bit methods.
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Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote at 19:38 this Monday (GMT):

On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 18:06:55 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Because of year 2038 issue, you really should migrate to 64-bit OS!!

Actually, most 32-bit OSes will have been modified to use 64 bits for the time. However, that may not be as reliable as a 64-bit OS.

[snip]


Good to know someone was thinking ahead, at least.
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