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On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 21:30:14 -0700, "David E. Ross"
<nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

I put all my passwords into this file. https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fsekrit.html

I leave it safely open for the duration of my Web visits for
copy/pasting. Just make sure to empty your clipboard when closing
Windows.

It has worked for years. I like simple.
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 06:48:01 -0000 (UTC), Handsome Jack
<jack@handsome.com> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 00:00:36 -0500, shaw wrote:

I put all my passwords into this file.
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fsekrit.html

I leave it safely open for the duration of my Web visits for
copy/pasting. Just make sure to empty your clipboard when closing
Windows.

It has worked for years. I like simple.

That looks brilliant at first blush, but actually it doesn't work properly >on my system. When you open an existing file, and then try to move part of >the text around by copy-and-paste, it overwrites the whole file with the >contents of the clipboard. Does yours do that?

Lordy, no!

That I do not understand at all. As I said, I've been using it for
years on my XP and Windows 7 machines.

Are you sure you somehow are not Selecting the entire file when copying?
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Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.
--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/

Trump fired the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because
she REPORTED THE TRUTH about a weakening labor market. How can
we now trust any economic data from the federal government?
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 08:58:54 -0700, Stan Brown <someone@example.com>
wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 21:30:14 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails.

You might want to consider using a password manager, such as
KeePassXC, to do the typing for you. That's what I do, because it
lets me use longer passwords of 20 or so characters. (There's no way
I would regularly type a password of say 25 characters.) It also lets
me not use individual browsers' password stores, which might be of
interest if you use a different browser occasionally. And it's
trivially easy to share KeePassXC among multiple devices.

I use my fsekrit because I do not trust password managers.

Password Managers Hacked: A Comprehensive Overview https://www.beyondidentity.com/resource/password-managers-hacked-a-comprehensive-overview

For truly personal stuff not used every day, I use a TrueCrypt volume on
a drive other than my C:. My passphrase length for that is over 50. the
length of my sekrit passphrase is about 30. Passphrases using plain
english words - some misspelled to defeat a dictionary attack, plus
having a number or simple punctuation mark added, are not that hard to
type. Typing instead of copy/pasting should keep the phrase from being captured and stored somewhere by Windows.

file:///C:/Passphrase%20Gen/Pass%20Phrase%20Generator.html

If you don't want to fuss with a password manager, there's AutoHotkey
at <https://autohotkey.com>. But its entries are not encrypted, so
you'd not want to take that approach with a computer that some bad
actor might get physical access to.

One should never have their passwords/passphrases or important info
unencrypte on their computers.

Here's a download that I have found useful for a number of years. file:///C:/Password%20Checker/Strength%20Test.htm

Dowload it and use on your machine rather than placing your password on
the web page. I use my Windows 7 firewall to keep it from calling home
- just in case.

I ain't a tech, just a simple user hoping simple ways will keep my info private.
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 13:26:23 -0500, shaw@placer.com wrote:

Here's a download that I have found useful for a number of years. file:///C:/Password%20Checker/Strength%20Test.htm

If you'll provide me access to your C: drive I'll be happy to take a
look at that HTM-file (in Notepad).
--
s|b
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 00:00:36 -0500, shaw wrote:

I put all my passwords into this file. https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fsekrit.html

I leave it safely open for the duration of my Web visits for
copy/pasting. Just make sure to empty your clipboard when closing
Windows.

It has worked for years. I like simple.

That looks brilliant at first blush, but actually it doesn't work properly
on my system. When you open an existing file, and then try to move part of
the text around by copy-and-paste, it overwrites the whole file with the contents of the clipboard. Does yours do that?
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 06:48:01 -0000 (UTC), Handsome Jack wrote:

That looks brilliant at first blush, but actually it doesn't work
properly on my system. When you open an existing file, and then try
to move part of the text around by copy-and-paste, it overwrites the
whole file with the contents of the clipboard. Does yours do that?

What you have there is not a rCLcomputerrCY, it might be some kind of rCLflowerpotrCY.
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On 9/2/25 12:30 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

The earlier comment that the later Firefox programs have encryption on those words makes
reading them nill.
And getting a cute little program to store passwords, even just master passwords is just
as problematic. You need a master password for them.

Other than paper and the other Bitwarden etc suggestions, I found an oldie but (for me) goody.
http://www.cygnusproductions.com/downloads/downloads.asp
It's no longer updated but it still works in Windows 11 and Linux wine.
The great part is, it saves the encrypted database on your local machine. No cloud.
--
Linux Mint 22.1, Thunderbird 128.14.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 142.0
Alan K.
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"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> Wrote in message:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

It's years since I used a master password, probably in SM before
Firefox existed when it protected my personal certificates.

Is it what's described as a 'primary password' here:
https://mzl.la/3SG033C
Is it entered in a prompt box like in the picture?

If so I'm pretty sure an addon couldn't be written to expose it.
The old addon system might have been able to do it, and that
still exists in SM I think.
--
Remove numerics from my email address.
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On 9/2/2025 12:30 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

Correction: Where I wrote "Passkeeper" I meant to write LastPass. Sorry!
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 12:56:56 -0500, shaw wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 06:48:01 -0000 (UTC), Handsome Jack
<jack@handsome.com> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 00:00:36 -0500, shaw wrote:

I put all my passwords into this file.
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fsekrit.html

I leave it safely open for the duration of my Web visits for
copy/pasting. Just make sure to empty your clipboard when closing
Windows.

It has worked for years. I like simple.

That looks brilliant at first blush, but actually it doesn't work
properly on my system. When you open an existing file, and then try to
move part of the text around by copy-and-paste, it overwrites the whole >>file with the contents of the clipboard. Does yours do that?

Lordy, no!

That I do not understand at all. As I said, I've been using it for
years on my XP and Windows 7 machines.

Are you sure you somehow are not Selecting the entire file when copying?

No, but I am trying to run it on the WINE windows emulator in Linux, so perhaps that is the problem. Although other Windows editors work fine
under WINE.
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On 9/2/2025 12:30 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

Use a free password manager and configure it to autofill the username
and password for the site. Examples that work on windows and FF are
Passkeeper and Bitwarden.
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Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> Wrote in message:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 12:56:56 -0500, shaw wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 06:48:01 -0000 (UTC), Handsome Jack
<jack@handsome.com> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 00:00:36 -0500, shaw wrote:

I put all my passwords into this file.
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fsekrit.html

I leave it safely open for the duration of my Web visits for
copy/pasting. Just make sure to empty your clipboard when closing
Windows.

It has worked for years. I like simple.

That looks brilliant at first blush, but actually it doesn't work >>>properly on my system. When you open an existing file, and then try to >>>move part of the text around by copy-and-paste, it overwrites the whole >>>file with the contents of the clipboard. Does yours do that?

Lordy, no!

That I do not understand at all. As I said, I've been using it for
years on my XP and Windows 7 machines.

Are you sure you somehow are not Selecting the entire file when copying?

No, but I am trying to run it on the WINE windows emulator in Linux, so perhaps that is the problem. Although other Windows editors work fine
under WINE.

Try EncryptPad
https://evpo.net/encryptpad/
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Remove numerics from my email address.
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 18:19:27 -0400, Alan K. wrote:

Other than paper and the other Bitwarden etc suggestions, I found an
oldie but (for me) goody.
http://www.cygnusproductions.com/downloads/downloads.asp
It's no longer updated but it still works in Windows 11 and Linux wine.

"We canrCOt connect to the server at www.cygnusproductions.com."

The great part is, it saves the encrypted database on your local
machine. No cloud.

I use KeePass, which does the same. Also, you can use a file, instead of a phrase, as the master key.
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 21:30:14 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails.

You might want to consider using a password manager, such as
KeePassXC, to do the typing for you. That's what I do, because it
lets me use longer passwords of 20 or so characters. (There's no way
I would regularly type a password of say 25 characters.) It also lets
me not use individual browsers' password stores, which might be of
interest if you use a different browser occasionally. And it's
trivially easy to share KeePassXC among multiple devices.

If you don't want to fuss with a password manager, there's AutoHotkey
at <https://autohotkey.com>. But its entries are not encrypted, so
you'd not want to take that approach with a computer that some bad
actor might get physical access to.
--
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 08:11:58 -0000 (UTC), Handsome Jack wrote:

I use KeePass, which does the same. Also, you can use a file, instead of a phrase, as the master key.

I've been using KeePass 1.* for years now. If you've got an Android
phone, then you can use KeePass2Android. Simply transfer database.kdb
(and your key, if you use one) to your phone.

I don't do this, but what you can do is place your database.kdb to
something like OneDrive and leave your key on your phone and PC/laptop.
This way you can use OneDrive under Windows as well and the database
will be the same, even when updated. OTOH it's supposed to be safer,
because you don't have the database on your phone, only the key.
--
s|b
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On 9/1/2025 9:30 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

The extension Show Password On Input for SeaMonkey works within the
popup that requests entry of the master password. Less than 13kb, it
does not change the appearance of SeaMonkey's native popup (which looks
the same as Firefox's) except it adds a checkbox on the right side. If
you check the checkbox, the master password is exposed. This is very
simple, but this is what I seek.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com>

Reuters headline: "Trump says Rudy Giuliani will receive
top US civilian honor."
Why not? When he was mayor of New York City, Giuliani
moved his mistress into the mayor's mansion while his
wife and children still lived there. He is indeed
Trump's kind of guy.
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On 9/4/2025 8:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/1/2025 9:30 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
Firefox 115.27.0 esr (also x64)

Is there an extension that will allow me to view my master password as I
type it? As I get older, too often I "fat finger" when inputting my
master password; but I do not know it until it fails. In SeaMonkey, I
have an extension named Show Password On Input; but that is not
compatible with Firefox.

The extension Show Password On Input for SeaMonkey works within the
popup that requests entry of the master password. Less than 13kb, it
does not change the appearance of SeaMonkey's native popup (which looks
the same as Firefox's) except it adds a checkbox on the right side. If
you check the checkbox, the master password is exposed. This is very
simple, but this is what I seek.

Also, about 10 years ago, it also worked with Firefox.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com>

Reuters headline: "Trump says Rudy Giuliani will receive
top US civilian honor."
Why not? When he was mayor of New York City, Giuliani
moved his mistress into the mayor's mansion while his
wife and children still lived there. He is indeed
Trump's kind of guy.
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