• I Got Rid Of All Those Computer "Security" Woes

    From carson@carson@invalid.com to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Aug 22 14:25:24 2025
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    First of all, this isn't spam for some program or other. The program I'm mentioning has been "extinct" for some years, but it can still be
    downloaded and installed as a freebie.

    It is incredibly simple unlike Sandboxie and others of that type. One
    click for On/Off and that's all that is needed.

    The program is Time Freeze.

    Toolwiz Time Freeze 4.3.1.5000
    Author: Toolwiz Software
    Date: 06/02/2016
    Size: 2.80 MB
    License: Freeware
    Requires: Win 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP
    Downloads: 112592 times

    "Toolwiz Time Freeze is a free instant system protection tool that will
    protect your system from any unwanted changes and malicious activity in
    low disk level".

    Many people complain it is "no longer supported". I doesn't need
    supporting. I've used it for years with no problem. You might also
    notice it has been downloaded over a hundred-thousand times.

    I have not used any AV or so-called security program for years. Time
    Freeze has totally protected my system through the years.

    Another thing it is great for is installing apps that don't need reboots
    to load themselves into the guts of Windows. You can run those apps and
    see if you really want to keep any of them. If you don't, reboot and
    they're gone when Windows reloads.

    You do have to have a second drive or USB drive to save any programs you
    do wish to permanently install in Windows. You then have to turn off
    Time Freeze and reboot into unprotected Windows and install the program.
    You then click Time Freeze to "ON" and reboot. The new program will
    then show up in the protected Windows.

    Bookmark updates will also have to be copied to the second drive and
    reloaded the same way.

    This bit of extra work is worth it. No more AV nor "Security Programs" nonsense. As I previously said, I've been using this program for about
    five years without a single problem with XP and Windows 7.

    If you are interested in trying Time Freeze you must download it from
    the Majorgeeks link and not the author's link. The author's link is
    dead.

    The site for the program: https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/toolwiz_time_freeze.html

    The proper download link: https://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirror/toolwiz_time_freeze,1.html
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Aug 22 22:42:34 2025
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    Carson,

    "Toolwiz Time Freeze is a free instant system protection tool
    that will protect your system from any unwanted changes and
    malicious activity in low disk level".

    As I told you a couple(?) of years ago, that may true, but that doesn't make it an AV product - and you should not be advertising it as such.

    You do have to have a second drive or USB drive to save any
    programs you do wish to permanently install in Windows. You
    then have to turn off Time Freeze and reboot into unprotected
    Windows and install the program.
    You then click Time Freeze to "ON" and reboot. The new program
    will then show up in the protected Windows.

    And if the newly installed program contains malware you are f*cked - and you won't even know.

    Bookmark updates will also have to be copied to the second drive
    and reloaded the same way.

    And all sorts of configurations and, if you are a gamer, all save-games.
    That becomes tedious rather quickly. Heck, you could not even, in the filebrowser, change the view mode from "list" to "details" and expect it to
    be there the next day.

    Bottom line : If you save/store *anything* while having "time freeze" active with the intention to use it the next time you are effectivily circumventing its protection : if your "configuration storage" medium gets infected you
    will be re-infecting the clean OS every time you access it.

    The product is good for school computers so a pupil can play with it - including putting viri on it or trashing the 'puter by deleting/changing system files - and than restore the machine to a clean state, but no more
    than that.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From carson@carson@invalid.com to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Aug 22 16:46:24 2025
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    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 22:42:34 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
    wrote:

    Carson,

    "Toolwiz Time Freeze is a free instant system protection tool
    that will protect your system from any unwanted changes and
    malicious activity in low disk level".

    As I told you a couple(?) of years ago, that may true, but that doesn't make >it an AV product - and you should not be advertising it as such.

    I never said it was an AV program. I said it protects one from
    downloading malware.

    You do have to have a second drive or USB drive to save any
    programs you do wish to permanently install in Windows. You
    then have to turn off Time Freeze and reboot into unprotected
    Windows and install the program.
    You then click Time Freeze to "ON" and reboot. The new program
    will then show up in the protected Windows.

    And if the newly installed program contains malware you are f*cked - and you >won't even know.

    IF, IF is all your type knows. How about IF your machine is NOT already infected?

    Bookmark updates will also have to be copied to the second drive
    and reloaded the same way.

    And all sorts of configurations and, if you are a gamer, all save-games. >That becomes tedious rather quickly. Heck, you could not even, in the >filebrowser, change the view mode from "list" to "details" and expect it to >be there the next day.

    The above has nothing to do with what I posted. Your nonsense does not denigrate Time Freeze's usefullness in the slightest.

    I never played a "game" on my computer. If "gamers" find your
    explanation of why it isn't for them realistic it does not invalidate
    usage of Time Freeze for other computer users.

    Bottom line : If you save/store *anything* while having "time freeze" active >with the intention to use it the next time you are effectivily circumventing >its protection : if your "configuration storage" medium gets infected you >will be re-infecting the clean OS every time you access it.

    You are correct in the above assumption. I should have posted that when
    I do download an app or program, I ALWAYS check it with - https://www.virustotal.com/old-browsers/
    https://virusscan.jotti.org/
    https://www.garyshood.com/virus/

    My bad that I didn't add that to my post. However, I assume that anyone
    who would even be interested in such a program as Time Freeze would
    realize the shortcoming of permanently installing any saved program.

    The product is good for school computers so a pupil can play with it - >including putting viri on it or trashing the 'puter by deleting/changing >system files - and than restore the machine to a clean state, but no more >than that.

    The above is a shoddy, misleading attempt to belittle Time Freeze. I'm
    not goingy to reply to it.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


    - Carson -

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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Aug 23 23:16:31 2025
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    Lawrence DoOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 00:03:32 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    TimeFreeze was freeware. Firefox, LibreOffice, and tons of other
    programs are freeware ...

    Freeware <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware> is not Free software <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software>.

    What term do you propose that would encompass both freeware and free
    software? Freeshit?
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Aug 24 04:26:50 2025
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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 23:16:31 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 00:03:32 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    TimeFreeze was freeware. Firefox, LibreOffice, and tons of other
    programs are freeware ...

    Freeware <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware> is not Free software
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software>.

    What term do you propose that would encompass both freeware and free software?

    I wouldnrCOt.
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Aug 24 10:51:23 2025
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    On 8/23/25 18:13, Frank Miller wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 23/8/2025 3:25 am, carson@invalid.com wrote:
    First of all, this isn't spam for some program or other. The program I'm >>> mentioning has been "extinct" for some years, but it can still be
    downloaded and installed as a freebie.
    .....
    This bit of extra work is worth it. No more AV nor "Security Programs"
    nonsense. As I previously said, I've been using this program for about
    five years without a single problem with XP and Windows 7.


    I installed the OEM (evalution) version of Norton Internet Security
    which came with a cheap motherboard I bought recently, just for fun. It
    might suddenly prevent me clicking the address bar. I immediately
    uninsatlled it! :)

    The last software with "Norton" in it's name worth buying and using it
    was "Norton Commander 5.5" and maybe "Norton Utilities 8.0".
    Everything after that branded with "Norton" was bullshit for Windows.

    He originally just gathered together a mess of previously-developed free software, did some cosmetic stuff and called it the Norton Utilities.
    Cheesy.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    Cthulhu for President in 2024. Why vote for a lesser evil?
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Aug 24 14:42:38 2025
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    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    Frank Miller wrote:

    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    I installed the OEM (evalution) version of Norton Internet Security
    which came with a cheap motherboard I bought recently, just for
    fun. It might suddenly prevent me clicking the address bar. I
    immediately uninsatlled it! :)

    The last software with "Norton" in it's name worth buying and using
    it was "Norton Commander 5.5" and maybe "Norton Utilities 8.0".
    Everything after that branded with "Norton" was bullshit for
    Windows.

    He originally just gathered together a mess of previously-developed
    free software, did some cosmetic stuff and called it the Norton
    Utilities. Cheesy.

    Actually, back then, the competitors were Norton Utilities and Central
    Point's PC Tools. Both existed at the same time. Unerase was the big
    tool in the Norton suite. Symantec bought Norton, and later also bought
    PC Tools claiming they would expound on that tool set, but what they
    really did was to get rid of PC Tools to go forward with Norton
    Utilities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Utilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Tools_(software)

    Neither were "previously-developed free software" which has you
    implythat the tools in the suites were stolen, borrowed, or forked.
    Peter Norton wrote his own tools. Central Point was a software
    development company, not a software publisher rebranding and
    redistributing the work of others.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Norton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Point_Software
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Aug 24 14:58:01 2025
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    On 8/24/25 12:42, VanguardLH wrote:
    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    Frank Miller wrote:

    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    I installed the OEM (evalution) version of Norton Internet Security
    which came with a cheap motherboard I bought recently, just for
    fun. It might suddenly prevent me clicking the address bar. I
    immediately uninsatlled it! :)

    The last software with "Norton" in it's name worth buying and using
    it was "Norton Commander 5.5" and maybe "Norton Utilities 8.0".
    Everything after that branded with "Norton" was bullshit for
    Windows.

    He originally just gathered together a mess of previously-developed
    free software, did some cosmetic stuff and called it the Norton
    Utilities. Cheesy.

    Actually, back then, the competitors were Norton Utilities and Central Point's PC Tools. Both existed at the same time. Unerase was the big
    tool in the Norton suite. Symantec bought Norton, and later also bought
    PC Tools claiming they would expound on that tool set, but what they
    really did was to get rid of PC Tools to go forward with Norton
    Utilities.

    That reminded me of the big fat paperback that came with a disk full of
    useful utilities and provided really good explanations for everything --
    I thought that was called PC Tools, but probably not. It killed me to contribute that book to the library (long after DOS was obsolete) but I figured they could handle it professionally.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Utilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Tools_(software)

    Neither were "previously-developed free software" which has you
    implythat the tools in the suites were stolen, borrowed, or forked.

    No, just used. I was familiar with some of the stuff already. Not all,
    of course, and there's nothing actually wrong with bundling stuff up,
    but I thought it was... opportunistic, perhaps.

    Peter Norton wrote his own tools. Central Point was a software
    development company, not a software publisher rebranding and
    redistributing the work of others.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Norton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Point_Software

    I really hate the way the new (to me) TB sometimes handles backspaces -- converting them to CRLFs at the end of the text before the sig. No idea
    why it does this, but it's maddening.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I'm sorry I ever invented the Electoral College."
    Al Gore 11/08/00
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Aug 26 21:21:28 2025
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    On 24/8/2025 9:13 am, Frank Miller wrote:

    The last software with "Norton" in it's name worth buying and using it
    was "Norton Commander 5.5" and maybe "Norton Utilities 8.0".
    Everything after that branded with "Norton" was bullshit for Windows.


    I only used Norton Utilies occassionally back in DOS days.
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