• regional requirements?

    From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 24 16:30:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional requirements?
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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 25 10:37:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't
    forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 25 20:15:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.

    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 25 20:42:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 25.07.2025 20:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:> On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't
    forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.

    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".

    welcome to 2025!!1

    a web full of shit: AI search, AI vibe coders, idiot web developers,
    AI content, AI summaries, chat with your PDFs...

    ciao...
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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 25 14:44:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/25/2025 2:15 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't
    forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.

    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".


    I think Micky is referring to "adult" web sites that now need to comply
    with proof of age requirements imposed by new laws enacted in several
    states that are more worried about younger people accessing those web
    sites than they are about whether or not those kids get enough
    nourishing food to eat or appropriate medical care.
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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 25 18:52:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In <1060jau$21n26$1@dont-email.me> Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> writes:

    [snip]

    I think Micky is referring to "adult" web sites that now need to comply
    with proof of age requirements imposed by new laws enacted in several
    states that are more worried about younger people accessing those web
    sites than they are about whether or not those kids get enough
    nourishing food to eat or appropriate medical care.

    It's not just the adult web sites. Plenty of others, especially
    financial ones concerned about fraud, use geo-location.

    And note there are _PLENTY_ of other techniques above
    and beyond just the IP address...
    --
    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 25 22:42:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2025-07-25 20:42, Schugo wrote:
    On 25.07.2025 20:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:> On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't >>> forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law. >>
    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".

    welcome to 2025!!1

    Nope, they have been doing the same for well over a decade.


    a web full of shit: AI search, AI vibe coders, idiot web developers,
    AI content, AI summaries, chat with your PDFs...

    ciao...

    The developers do as ordered.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 02:51:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 25.07.2025 22:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-07-25 20:42, Schugo wrote:
    On 25.07.2025 20:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:> On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt >> wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by >>>>> now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional >>>>> requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't >>>> forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.

    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".

    welcome to 2025!!1

    Nope, they have been doing the same for well over a decade.


    a web full of shit: AI search, AI vibe coders, idiot web developers,
    AI content, AI summaries, chat with your PDFs...

    ciao...

    The developers do as ordered.

    maybe you're right with law requirements,
    but they are responsible for the shitty
    front-ends that make you click "I'm a human"
    and then 8-10s load time (e.g. LinkedIn)
    and the enshittified "modern", "everything rounded buttons"
    flat UI designs/icons...

    ciao...

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 02:23:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:37:18 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:

    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into
    law.

    DonrCOt businesses have a right to deal with whomever they want?
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 02:40:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:51:07 +0200, Schugo wrote:

    ... they are responsible for the shitty front-ends that make you click
    "I'm a human" ...

    The sudden recent popularity of that kind of thing can be blamed on all
    the AI crawlers.
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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 10:11:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/25/2025 10:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:37:18 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:

    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't
    forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into
    law.

    DonrCOt businesses have a right to deal with whomever they want?

    Not when their preferred business practices violate the law. As of this
    AM, we still are free to contact our legislative representative(s) and
    tell them we want them to change the law, to re-locate to a jurisdiction
    where that law does not apply, or to go to court and claim that the law violates whatever higher jurisdictional law we choose to cite. Good luck!
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 18:12:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 25.07.2025 22:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-07-25 20:42, Schugo wrote:
    On 25.07.2025 20:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:> On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt >> wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by >>>>> now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional >>>>> requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't >>>> forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.

    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".

    welcome to 2025!!1

    Nope, they have been doing the same for well over a decade.


    a web full of shit: AI search, AI vibe coders, idiot web developers,
    AI content, AI summaries, chat with your PDFs...

    ciao...

    The developers do as ordered.

    Another bad exammple for geolocation:
    more and more websites don't respect my accept-language (en-US)
    and present me always a German page. That's also bad for foreigners
    living in Germany or on vacation.

    That's clearly the developers fault...

    ciao..

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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 14:25:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:40:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:51:07 +0200, Schugo wrote:

    ... they are responsible for the shitty front-ends that make you click
    "I'm a human" ...

    The sudden recent popularity of that kind of thing can be blamed on all
    the AI crawlers.

    Yes, and actually many sites no longer make you click that you're human.
    They have some method for validating your request and all one has to do
    is wait 3 or 4 seconds. Doesnt' that replace the "I am human" click. I
    think it's nice of them to do that.
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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 14:34:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Fri, 25 Jul 2025 14:44:40 -0400, Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

    On 7/25/2025 2:15 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't >>> forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law. >>
    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".


    I think Micky is referring to "adult" web sites that now need to comply

    No I'm not. This started 10 years ago when I was abroad and wanted to
    watch a movie from my Baltimore library via Kanoply, which is in the US,
    maybe Baltimore. it's come up since then and the most recent was this
    week when I want my brother, a radiologist now visiting Peru, to look at
    my MRIs, on the radiology website in the USA, and I'm anticipating that
    he might need a VPN to do so. Hence the question, if anyone can do it
    with a VPH, why do they bother restricting it in the first place?
    Because it worked before there were VPNs and they can't break the habit?
    Just to slow people down a little?

    Some of this has to do with copyrights, I think, but not all.

    But I've heard about porn sites. If all they have to do is check a box
    that says they are 18, doesn't evey kid who knows how to read know how
    to do that? So it seems like no protection at all.

    with proof of age requirements imposed by new laws enacted in several
    states that are more worried about younger people accessing those web
    sites than they are about whether or not those kids get enough
    nourishing food to eat or appropriate medical care.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 20:40:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 26.07.2025 20:25, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:40:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:51:07 +0200, Schugo wrote:

    ... they are responsible for the shitty front-ends that make you click
    "I'm a human" ...

    The sudden recent popularity of that kind of thing can be blamed on all >>the AI crawlers.

    Yes, and actually many sites no longer make you click that you're human.
    They have some method for validating your request and all one has to do
    is wait 3 or 4 seconds. Doesnt' that replace the "I am human" click. I think it's nice of them to do that.


    If you think so... you are a victim.

    20 years ago with 1Mbit conections websites loaded all
    in 1 sec, without all the bullshit.

    The younger generations just think it's normal to wait 5s with
    1GB Broadband and 20 cores CPUs @ 4GHz with 32GB RAM machines.

    ciao..
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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 14:49:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 26 Jul 2025 20:40:47 +0200, Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    On 26.07.2025 20:25, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:40:28 -0000 (UTC),
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:51:07 +0200, Schugo wrote:

    ... they are responsible for the shitty front-ends that make you click >>>> "I'm a human" ...

    The sudden recent popularity of that kind of thing can be blamed on all >>>the AI crawlers.

    Yes, and actually many sites no longer make you click that you're human.
    They have some method for validating your request and all one has to do
    is wait 3 or 4 seconds. Doesnt' that replace the "I am human" click. I
    think it's nice of them to do that.


    If you think so... you are a victim.
    ?
    20 years ago with 1Mbit conections websites loaded all
    in 1 sec, without all the bullshit.

    I don't think the 3-4 seconds is loading time. I think they are pinging
    or something to validate.

    The younger generations just think it's normal to wait 5s with
    1GB Broadband and 20 cores CPUs @ 4GHz with 32GB RAM machines.

    I'm not in the younger generation. I've had a home computer for 42
    years, and this waiting is only on those sites that care if I'm human or
    not. They have a right to keep out bots. 20 years ago there were no
    bots.

    ciao..
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 26 21:30:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 26.07.2025 20:49, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 26 Jul 2025 20:40:47 +0200, Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    On 26.07.2025 20:25, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:40:28 -0000 (UTC),
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 02:51:07 +0200, Schugo wrote:

    ... they are responsible for the shitty front-ends that make you click >>>>> "I'm a human" ...

    The sudden recent popularity of that kind of thing can be blamed on all >>>>the AI crawlers.

    Yes, and actually many sites no longer make you click that you're human. >>> They have some method for validating your request and all one has to do
    is wait 3 or 4 seconds. Doesnt' that replace the "I am human" click. I >>> think it's nice of them to do that.


    If you think so... you are a victim.
    ?
    20 years ago with 1Mbit conections websites loaded all
    in 1 sec, without all the bullshit.

    I don't think the 3-4 seconds is loading time. I think they are pinging
    or something to validate.

    The younger generations just think it's normal to wait 5s with
    1GB Broadband and 20 cores CPUs @ 4GHz with 32GB RAM machines.

    I'm not in the younger generation. I've had a home computer for 42
    years, and this waiting is only on those sites that care if I'm human or
    not. They have a right to keep out bots. 20 years ago there were no
    bots.

    there were bots, but they respected robots.txt
    also, there are other ways to block the AI scrapers
    instead of wasting 5s of my time

    ciao..

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 27 00:20:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 10:11:06 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

    On 7/25/2025 10:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:37:18 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:

    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and
    don't forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the
    bills into law.

    DonrCOt businesses have a right to deal with whomever they want?

    Not when their preferred business practices violate the law.

    Are you allowed to pass laws to force businesses to deal with groups they might not want to?
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 27 14:32:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2025-07-26 04:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:37:18 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:

    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't
    forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into
    law.

    DonrCOt businesses have a right to deal with whomever they want?

    No. Over here they have to tend to anyone that enter the premises. For example, a bar or a restaurant that wants to be able to reject service
    to someone has to pay a special tax (AFAIR)
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 27 10:40:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/26/2025 2:34 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Fri, 25 Jul 2025 14:44:40 -0400, Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

    On 7/25/2025 2:15 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-07-25 16:37, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:
    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by >>>>> now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional >>>>> requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't >>>> forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into law.

    Why?

    I know businesses doing geolocation on their site. For instance, kobo.
    They sell ebooks. I want to see books in English, but they insist in
    showing Spanish books, per my location. Even if I configure my
    preferences to English.

    They will sell me whatever book I ask for, but I have to ask for it,
    they are not offered to me as "new offerings" or "Top books in UK".


    I think Micky is referring to "adult" web sites that now need to comply

    No I'm not. This started 10 years ago when I was abroad and wanted to
    watch a movie from my Baltimore library via Kanoply, which is in the US, maybe Baltimore. it's come up since then and the most recent was this
    week when I want my brother, a radiologist now visiting Peru, to look at
    my MRIs, on the radiology website in the USA, and I'm anticipating that
    he might need a VPN to do so. Hence the question, if anyone can do it
    with a VPH, why do they bother restricting it in the first place?
    Because it worked before there were VPNs and they can't break the habit?
    Just to slow people down a little?

    Some of this has to do with copyrights, I think, but not all.

    But I've heard about porn sites. If all they have to do is check a box
    that says they are 18, doesn't evey kid who knows how to read know how
    to do that? So it seems like no protection at all.


    My understanding is that the "adult" web sites in states with proof of
    age laws for access are required to implement a method to read your IP
    address. If that address is a US IP address, the simple checkbox thing
    doesn't meet the requirement of that state law and instead, those sites
    must require the visitor to provide information such as driver's license
    #, to gain access. If the visitor's IP address is registered in a
    country other than the US, the law doesn't pertain. That's why a VPN
    that can spoof an IP address outside the US can can usually be used to
    gain access to those sites without soliciting or requiring a more formal
    proof of age.

    states that are more worried about younger people accessing those web
    sites than they are about whether or not those kids get enough
    nourishing food to eat or appropriate medical care.


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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 27 11:44:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 27 Jul 2025 14:32:58 +0200,
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-07-26 04:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:37:18 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

    On 7/24/2025 4:30 PM, micky wrote:

    What is the point of some pages imposing regional requirments when by
    now almost everyone knows they can use a VPN to sidestep the regional
    requirements?

    Your question should be directed to the membership of the state
    legislatures that passed the bills that became state law. Oh, and don't >>> forget to also asked those states' governors who signed the bills into
    law.

    DonAt businesses have a right to deal with whomever they want?

    No. Over here they have to tend to anyone that enter the premises. For >example, a bar or a restaurant that wants to be able to reject service
    to someone has to pay a special tax (AFAIR)

    There are laws like that in some cases in the US too. In one state, I
    forget which, the law was that a store, a bar, I forget what, could not
    sell liquor to someone under 18, or 22, or something, and could not
    refuse to sell liquor to someone that age or older. I don't know how businesses handled that since there are lots of fake id's around to
    enable children to buy liquor so since they can't really tell how old
    someone it. It's probably changed to something more reasonable by now.
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