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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Do this NOW: Use Disposable Windows for Maximum Security! - YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjGQCGHjuw>

Pro, Enterprise, and Educational editions
So, not for the hoarde of Home edition users where appwiz.cpl -> Windows Features does not list Windows Sandbox.

For the Home crowd, use VirtualBox which also has a taskbar to give you modeless running of shortcuts to apps ran inside a VM; i.e., you see the virtualized app's window, but not inside a window for the entire VM's
desktop, or use the typical setup of the VM shown in its own window.
Anything ran inside a VM will be slower than ran on native hardware.
Sometime not noticeable, but sometimes aggravating.
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 12:21:32 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Do this NOW: Use Disposable Windows for Maximum Security! - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjGQCGHjuw>

Pro, Enterprise, and Educational editions So, not for the hoarde of Home edition users where appwiz.cpl -> Windows Features does not list Windows Sandbox.

For the Home crowd, use VirtualBox which also has a taskbar to give you modeless running of shortcuts to apps ran inside a VM; i.e., you see the virtualized app's window, but not inside a window for the entire VM's desktop, or use the typical setup of the VM shown in its own window.
Anything ran inside a VM will be slower than ran on native hardware.
Sometime not noticeable, but sometimes aggravating.

It is slower. Most of that seems to be disk activity. My VMs sped up a lot when I started using a NVMe (and that was on a machine without native NVMe support, but with a PCIe 4X slot and an adapter card).
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On Fri, 9/26/2025 2:56 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 12:21:32 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Do this NOW: Use Disposable Windows for Maximum Security! - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjGQCGHjuw>

Pro, Enterprise, and Educational editions So, not for the hoarde of Home
edition users where appwiz.cpl -> Windows Features does not list Windows
Sandbox.

For the Home crowd, use VirtualBox which also has a taskbar to give you
modeless running of shortcuts to apps ran inside a VM; i.e., you see the
virtualized app's window, but not inside a window for the entire VM's
desktop, or use the typical setup of the VM shown in its own window.
Anything ran inside a VM will be slower than ran on native hardware.
Sometime not noticeable, but sometimes aggravating.

It is slower. Most of that seems to be disk activity. My VMs sped up a lot when I started using a NVMe (and that was on a machine without native NVMe support, but with a PCIe 4X slot and an adapter card).

The OS image for the sandbox, is supposed to be in memory.

I don't know if there is any way to visualize it.

There also doesn't seem to be a "lump" on the machine, the
same size as the proposed sandbox feature. But the materials can be
extracted from WinSxS or System32.

Virtual machines run rootless or rooted. Bash shell is rootless,
and if you open a Firefox in Bash shell, just the Firefox window
shows up. VirtualBox is Rooted, and shows a rectangular desktop
with all your programs that are running in the virtual machine.

On Windows7 Pro, the "WinXP Mode" could run rootless or rooted.
That was based on Windows Virtual PC as the hosting software.

The item on the left here, is Rooted, the items on the right
are Rootless gui programs. The left, is an entire Linux OS.
The right hand items, are just programs, running on the
bash shell virtual machine (HyperV?).

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/dQmYZKp9/rooted-versus-rootless.gif

VMs have various ways of doing I/O. There is a disk emulation,
there is paravirtualization, and at least one hosting software
had passthru (which corrupted a disk, kinda funny I guess). But
one thing they share, is they generally don't go all that fast.
Maybe 300MB/sec to 600MB/sec is the best I've managed, but
I'm not very adventurous. At one time, they managed speeds
of around 1MB/sec, so we should not complain. Back in the old days,
the video screen emulation was so so slow, you could see rows of
pixels being drawn, one row after another. Just... dreadful.
Processors are now fast enough, a virtual machine can almost
seem usable.

You can copy/paste and drag&drop, between environments, but
this is broken just as often as it is working. It involves
"Guest Additions" be added to the Guest OS, to enable
the functions.

Paul
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On 26/09/2025 13:47, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Do this NOW: Use Disposable Windows for Maximum Security! - YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjGQCGHjuw>

If this is Sandbox, a feature of Windows 10/11 why didn't you say so &
give proper links rather than pointing to Youtube?
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On Sat, 9/27/2025 3:16 AM, wasbit wrote:

On 26/09/2025 13:47, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Do this NOW: Use Disposable Windows for Maximum Security! - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjGQCGHjuw>

If this is Sandbox, a feature of Windows 10/11 why didn't you say so & give proper links rather than pointing to Youtube?

A few conditionals apply.

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-windows-sandbox-in-windows-11.274/

*If* I was going to do this, I would use a separate VM for it, as
at least I know what the operating status of my VMs is. It does not
mean my VMs are more secure, just that there is less Microsoft
can do to break the feature :-) My VMs are clones of files, so
a fresh "copy" of the containers is used before each run.

There also might be more than one sandbox. More conditionals I would assume.

"Max Security" is where you don't run dodgy software :-)

Paul
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