• Re: uBlock Origin 1.65.0 (2025-07-10)

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sun Aug 24 15:32:01 2025
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    On 24/8/2025 2:28 am, D wrote:
    best browser extension ever invented by man . . .

    Firefox 142.0
    Tools > Extensions and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]

    Switched to it from Adblock for many years... couldn't quite remember
    why. Something to do with Firefox changing its add-on mechanism.
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  • From John C.@r9jmg0@yahoo.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sun Aug 24 01:24:39 2025
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    On 25/08/24 12:32 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 24/8/2025 2:28 am, D wrote:
    best browser extension ever invented by man . . .

    Firefox 142.0
    Tools > Extensions and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]

    Switched to it from Adblock for many years... couldn't quite remember
    why. Something to do with Firefox changing its add-on mechanism.


    Adblock started allowing certain ads through:

    "Starting with version 2.0, Adblock Plus started allowing "acceptable
    ads" by default,[72] with acceptable ad standards being set by The
    Acceptable Ads Committee.[73] They charge large institutions fees to
    become whitelisted and marked as "acceptable", stating "[Adblock Plus]
    only charge large entities a license fee so that we can offer the same whitelisting services to everyone and maintain our resources to develop
    the best software for our users." on their about page.[74]"

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus

    uBlock Origin doesn't play that game.
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sun Aug 24 09:48:33 2025
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    On 24/08/2025 09:24, John C. wrote:
    On 25/08/24 12:32 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 24/8/2025 2:28 am, D wrote:
    best browser extension ever invented by man . . .

    Firefox 142.0
    Tools > Extensions and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]

    Switched to it from Adblock for many years... couldn't quite remember
    why. Something to do with Firefox changing its add-on mechanism.


    Adblock started allowing certain ads through:

    "Starting with version 2.0, Adblock Plus started allowing "acceptable
    ads" by default,[72] with acceptable ad standards being set by The
    Acceptable Ads Committee.[73] They charge large institutions fees to
    become whitelisted and marked as "acceptable", stating "[Adblock Plus]
    only charge large entities a license fee so that we can offer the same whitelisting services to everyone and maintain our resources to develop
    the best software for our users." on their about page.[74]"

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus

    uBlock Origin doesn't play that game.

    If you use Brave Browser, no adblocking add-on is needed.
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  • From Marion@marion@facts.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Aug 24 14:54:57 2025
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    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 09:48:33 +0100, Jim the Geordie wrote :


    On 24/8/2025 2:28 am, D wrote:
    best browser extension ever invented by man . . .

    Firefox 142.0
    Tools > Extensions and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]

    Switched to it from Adblock for many years... couldn't quite remember
    why. Something to do with Firefox changing its add-on mechanism.


    Adblock started allowing certain ads through:

    "Starting with version 2.0, Adblock Plus started allowing "acceptable
    ads" by default,[72] with acceptable ad standards being set by The
    Acceptable Ads Committee.[73] They charge large institutions fees to
    become whitelisted and marked as "acceptable", stating "[Adblock Plus]
    only charge large entities a license fee so that we can offer the same
    whitelisting services to everyone and maintain our resources to develop
    the best software for our users." on their about page.[74]"

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus

    uBlock Origin doesn't play that game.

    If you use Brave Browser, no adblocking add-on is needed.

    My two cents... bearing in mind I never used extensions until early July
    when Epic Privacy Browser went bust... I'm building two sets of DIY privacy browsers where I've settled (currently) on almost a score of extensions
    (not counting VPN extensions) which are the following currently for the Chromium side of the family (given it was easier than the Mozilla side).

    Browser: Brave and/or Ungoogled Chromium (LibreFox and/or MullVad)
    1. Canvas Blocker - Fingerprint Protect : version 0_2_2
    2. ClearURLs : version 1_26_0
    3. Cookie AutoDelete : version 3_8_2
    4. CthulhuJs (Anti-Fingerprint) : version 8_0_6
    5. Decentraleyes : version 3_0_0
    6. Extension Manager : version 9_5_2
    7. Font Fingerprint Defender : version 0_1_6
    8. LocalCDN : version 2_6_79
    9. Location Guard (V3) : version 3_0_0
    10. Privacy Badger : version 2025_5_30
    11. Referer Control : version 1_35
    12. Skip Redirect : version 2_3_6
    13. StayInTab : version 1_0
    14. Trace - Online Tracking Protection : version 3_0_6
    15. uBlock Origin : version 1_65_0
    16. User-Agent Switcher and Manager : version 0_6_4
    17. WebRTC Control : version 0_3_3
    18. NoScript is useful, but I find it a PITA so it's disabled for now.

    The question came up from Mr. Man-wai Chang about Adblock Plus.

    While there will always be overlap when you have a score of extensions,
    a. uBlock Origin is more efficient (apparently)
    b. It's said to be more powerful in supporting advanced rule creation
    c. It's said to support dynamic & cosmetic filtering
    c. Critically, it doesn't have an "acceptable ads" program
    d. And it's often considered more actively maintained

    Since there is a large amount of overlap, I left AdBlock Plus out of the
    mix of privacy extensions that I'm testing for the DIY privacy browser(s).

    But I could be wrong as I must state openly I never touched extensions
    until being forced to give up on my daily driver privacy browser in July.

    Side Note: The VPN extension test covering a score of supposedly free, ad
    free, registration free VPN extensions is still a work in progress
    covering, so far, the following successful & failed VPN extensions:

    These passed initial testing criteria (free, account free, ad free):
    1. browsec
    2. hoxx
    3. securefreeedgevpn
    4. setupvpn
    5. vpnly
    6. xvpn
    7. 1clickvpn
    8. 1vpn

    These failed initial testing criteria (free, account free, ad free):
    a. hiddenbatvpn
    b. hidemevpn
    c. hotspotshieldvpn
    d. itopvpn
    e. protonvpn
    f. tunnelbearvpn
    g. urbanvpn
    h. windscribevpn

    Correction: I correct an earlier assessment that all the VPN extensions
    "slow down" drastically within days; I think some of that is due to the plethora of privacy-baswed extensions - so I switched the testing over to testing instead the free,adfree,registrationfree system-wide VPNs with a free-adfree-regfree socks5 proxy (Psiphon) and, for non-browser
    applications, a free-adfree-regfree proxifier such as ProxyCAp64/FreeCap.

    Note I found out the hard way that Mozilla browsers handle proxies very differently than do Chromium browsers, which themselves handle proxies differently than most programs do where Windows has three layers of proxies that I had to write scripts (e.g., proxy.bat which morphed yesterday to proxy.cmd due to Windows quirks) to synchronize manually the three proxy mechanisms what Windows should have synchronized automatically. Sigh.

    Note also that there are too many free/regfree/adfree system-wide
    openvpn.exe free public VPN servers out there to list (many thousands!) so
    it will take a while before I test them all sufficiently to declare which
    free system-wide VPN server set is the easiest & fastest as all require additional software (e.g., softether or openvpn.exe) and scripts (due to changing passwords mostly).

    Lastly, I wasted days testing proxy servers, of which there are so many thousands out there that you'd go nuts trying them all, but they're all apparently abysmal in terms of reliability compared to the acceptable reliability of the free public no-registration openVPN services that I'm currently testing. After days of a miserable existence testing them,
    writing script after script after script to deal with their ephemeral
    nature, I gave up concluding that you'd have to have TLA-like resources to
    keep up with the few proxy services which stay alive long enough to be
    useful.

    Apologies for the long-winded response but that's the status of my testing
    in a nutshell, in the fewest words that still convey accurate assessment.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sun Aug 24 17:11:04 2025
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    On 2025/8/24 9:48:33, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    []
    If you use Brave Browser, no adblocking add-on is needed.

    How does Brave Browser block ad.s? I presume it's more than just a different-host (than the page being viewed) detector, since many pages
    rely on scripts from hosts other than their home one, and some even use
    images stored elsewhere.
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  • From Marion@marion@facts.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Aug 24 18:34:45 2025
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    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 17:11:04 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote :


    If you use Brave Browser, no adblocking add-on is needed.

    How does Brave Browser block ad.s? I presume it's more than just a different-host (than the page being viewed) detector, since many pages
    rely on scripts from hosts other than their home one, and some even use images stored elsewhere.

    Since I'm building my own DIY privacy browser, I looked that up just now.

    Brave's built-in ad-blocking is apparently called Brave Shields, which
    seems to act on every site using rule sets from EasyList, EasyPrivacy &, to
    the point of this thread, uBlock Origin lists... each of which strives to identify and block well-known ad and tracker domains.

    This is much like how our HOSTS file was used for years to block tracking.

    Digging deeper, apparently Brave can also block JavaScript execution, which
    is often used to load ads dynamically. This helps prevent those irritating pop-ups, autoplay videos, and interstitial ads.

    Also, apparently Brave can hide specific HTML elements (like <div> or
    <img>) that are used to display ads, even if they come from the same host.

    Delving deeper immediately brought me into the Alice in Wonderland
    complexity though, as Brave Brave apparently then goes even deeper than traditional ad blockers do, given it handles something called "CNAME Uncloaking", which means it detects when third-party trackers disguise themselves as first-party resources using DNS tricks.

    Who knew? Not me.

    It goes deeper than that with Brave replacing problematic scripts with privacy-respecting versions to maintain site functionality. Huh? How?

    Deeper I went into the rabbit hole where Brave seems to be doing some fingerprint randomization to prevent tracking via browser fingerprinting by randomizing or removing identifying APIs.

    Cookie Partitioning & Ephemeral Storage: Blocks cross-site cookies and
    replaces third-party storage with temporary, auto-deleted versions.

    In summary, it got complicatred fast when I looked up the answer for you,
    but we can summarize to say that Brave doesn't block all third-party
    content indiscriminately. Instead, it uses context-aware filtering by
    allowing third-party scripts (like CDNs or analytics) while blocking known ad-serving and tracking domains.

    Who knew?
    Not me.

    I'm confused but for ad blocking, Brave seems like a good starting point.
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  • From wasbit@wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Mon Aug 25 09:53:55 2025
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    On 23/08/2025 19:28, D wrote:
    best browser extension ever invented by man . . .

    Firefox 142.0
    Tools > Extensions and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]
    Find more add-ons
    Search addons.mozilla.org > ublock

    Tor Browser 14.5.6
    Tools > Add-ons and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]
    Find more add-ons
    Search addons.mozilla.org > ublock

    Pale Moon 33.8.1.2
    Tools > Add-ons and Themes [Ctrl+Shift+A]
    Search all add-ons > ublock

    https://addons.mozilla.org/
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
    Add-ons for Firefox (en-US)
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
    uBlock Origin by Raymond Hill
    Finally, an efficient wide-spectrum content blocker. Easy on CPU and memory. >> Recommended
    Available on Firefox for Android(tm)Available on Firefox for Android(tm)
    4.8 (20,901 reviews)
    9,634,693 Users
    Add to Firefox
    https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/4531307/ublock_origin-1.65.0.xpi

    see also:
    https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
    uBlock Origin - An efficient blocker for Chromium and Firefox. Fast and lean.


    There is also uBlock Origin Lite for Chrome and Safari which purports to
    be winning the ad blocking war.
    Differences
    - https://allaboutcookies.org/ublock-origin-lite-vs-ublock-origin
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  • From Marion@marion@facts.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Aug 29 05:40:12 2025
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    On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 12:23:58 -0700, NFN Smith wrote :


    I notice that PrivacyPossum isn't included here, but I don't think
    that's an issue. I looked at that briefly recently, and while the anti-fingerprinting aspect is attractive, I didn't see that it did
    anything useful for me.

    Thanks for your excellent updates, where I'll need to respond to each of
    the important ones alone and individually as each is a separate topic.

    As can be seen in the DIY privacy browser thread, Privacy Possum was "attempted" but we had problems with VPN extensions on DIY privacy-based Mozilla browsers (i.e., librefox & mullvad) so we tested the extensions on Chromium first, where wasn't found so I gave up too early on it early on.

    PrivacyPossum
    https://github.com/cowlicks/privacypossum
    No packages published https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-possum/ommfjecdpepadiafbnidoiggfpbnkfbj
    This item is not available

    However, Privacy Possum is apparently alive & well for Mozilla browsers.
    <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-possum/>
    Blocks third-party cookies
    Strips referer headers
    Spoofs browser fingerprinting attempts
    Detects and blocks ETag tracking
    Prioritizes making tracking inefficient rather than impossible

    As you already astutely noted, there's overlap galore, such as
    a. Trace covers fingerprinting & ETag blocking
    b. Privacy Badger learns and blocks trackers dynamically
    c. uBlock Origin blocks tracking methods with filter lists
    d. Canvas Blocker, CthulhuJs, Font Fingerprint Defender all put together,
    they cover fingerprinting well

    While those are direct analogs of what Privacy Possum does,
    A. ClearURLs removes tracking parameters from URLs,
    which complements Privacy Possum's goal but isn't a direct match.
    B. Decentraleyes / LocalCDN prevents CDN-based tracking by serving
    local resources which is not part of Privacy Possum's core.
    C. Location Guard obfuscates geolocation data, which is adjacent
    to fingerprinting but it's not a Privacy Possum direct match.
    D. WebRTC Control prevents IP leaks via WebRTC, which is important
    for privacy but also it's not part of Privacy Possum's toolkit.

    Given that, I appreciate that you brought up Privacy Possum as I was not
    aware (yet) that it was available for Mozilla browsers so it's a win:win.

    Much appreciated your valuable input.
    I'll take the other concepts one by one when I look up the details.
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