• Re: Royals ... (Denmark, anyone?)

    From Lars Poulsen@lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Aug 29 02:39:44 2025
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    On 2025-08-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    I'll hand it to the Brit royals, they DO tend to get
    into the actual SHIT. Tradition. Even QE2 got her
    hands filthy in the mil motor pool, got bombed, was
    trained to use a sub-machinegun. Too bad other Euro
    royals rarely follow suit, it'd make them far more
    relevant, worthy of their lineage.

    King Frederik of Denmark is respected for his military service, as well
    as his political science education. Queen Mary is the daughter of an
    Australian professor; she studied commerce and law at the University of Tasmania, and worked in marketing for Microsoft after Uni. She also
    serves in the military (Home Guard ... our version of the "standing
    reserves".
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Aug 29 21:58:37 2025
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    On 29/08/2025 12:39 pm, Lars Poulsen wrote:
    On 2025-08-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    I'll hand it to the Brit royals, they DO tend to get
    into the actual SHIT. Tradition. Even QE2 got her
    hands filthy in the mil motor pool, got bombed, was
    trained to use a sub-machinegun. Too bad other Euro
    royals rarely follow suit, it'd make them far more
    relevant, worthy of their lineage.

    King Frederik of Denmark is respected for his military service, as well
    as his political science education. Queen Mary is the daughter of an Australian professor; she studied commerce and law at the University of Tasmania, and worked in marketing for Microsoft after Uni. She also
    serves in the military (Home Guard ... our version of the "standing reserves".

    "Home Guard"?? Aren't they all really, really old Men?? ;-P
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Aug 29 17:45:57 2025
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    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 21:58:37 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

    On 29/08/2025 12:39 pm, Lars Poulsen wrote:
    On 2025-08-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    I'll hand it to the Brit royals, they DO tend to get into the
    actual SHIT. Tradition. Even QE2 got her hands filthy in the mil
    motor pool, got bombed, was trained to use a sub-machinegun. Too
    bad other Euro royals rarely follow suit, it'd make them far more
    relevant, worthy of their lineage.

    King Frederik of Denmark is respected for his military service, as well
    as his political science education. Queen Mary is the daughter of an
    Australian professor; she studied commerce and law at the University of
    Tasmania, and worked in marketing for Microsoft after Uni. She also
    serves in the military (Home Guard ... our version of the "standing
    reserves".

    "Home Guard"?? Aren't they all really, really old Men?? ;-P

    Don't underestimate us old men.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Whittemore
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  • From Lars Poulsen@lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Aug 31 22:26:04 2025
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    On 2025-08-31, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    The Lutherans or the Catholics? There is some similarity. For the
    Lutherans the doctrinal disagreement starts with the 'Book of Concord'.
    For the Missouri Synod it's the word of god and a complete statement of
    the doctrine. For the ELCA, there is wiggle room leading to:

    The ECLA has LGBQ++ clergy, with the L implying they have female clergy of any orientation. In the Missouri Synod women may serve in administrative functions created by Man; they don't get to do those things created by
    God. Homosexuality is inherently sinful, abnormal, and an abomination.
    Pray for the critters if you must but don't get too close. You probably
    can fill in the blanks on abortion, euthanasia, DEI, same sex marriage, inclusive language in the liturgy, etc. The ECLA tends to collect flaming liberals. There's another synod that I think is to the right of the
    Missouri Synod but I forget its name.

    Ah, yes. I was always confused as to who was who between the LCA and the
    ELCA, but the division is familiar to me as a Dane. The Danish Lutheran
    state church has a fundamentalist wing ("The society for the Inner
    Mission") and a liberal wing (The Grundtvig church). When Danes
    immigrated to America, this brought both wings with them. The two kinds
    can be seen in Bergman's "Fanny and ALexander". It begins in the
    Grundtvig style sect, "the happy church". And in the second half, the
    children are adopted into the family of the fundamentalist relatives.

    Here in the US, I have heard the two referred to as "the Happy
    Lutherans" and "the Gloomy Lutherans".
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Sep 1 01:36:38 2025
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    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:26:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Ah, yes. I was always confused as to who was who between the LCA and the ELCA, but the division is familiar to me as a Dane. The Danish Lutheran
    state church has a fundamentalist wing ("The society for the Inner
    Mission") and a liberal wing (The Grundtvig church). When Danes
    immigrated to America, this brought both wings with them. The two kinds
    can be seen in Bergman's "Fanny and ALexander". It begins in the
    Grundtvig style sect, "the happy church". And in the second half, the children are adopted into the family of the fundamentalist relatives.

    The history is complicated. It took a while in the US to get the German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and so forth Lutherans singing from the same hymnal.

    Here in the US, I have heard the two referred to as "the Happy
    Lutherans" and "the Gloomy Lutherans".

    The other flavor I was exposed to as a kid was Dutch Reformed, talk about gloomy. My mother didn't take it seriously at least. In her later years
    she said she'd never voiced her views in case she got religion as she got older but figured at that point in her life it wasn't going to happen.

    There were moments. My father and uncle would get together every Saturday
    and lay in a 12 quart case of beer. Both the heavy case and the bottles themselves required a deposit but they didn't always get returned
    promptly. On one of her clean up campaigns she loaded several cases on my
    red Radio Flyer wagon and we headed down the street to a beverage store
    where they redeemed them. When we got there her pastor pulled in,
    presumably to lay in a stock of ginger ale. What wagon full of beer
    bottles? I don't see any beer bottles. He was young and had a pretty good
    idea not all of his flock were on the straight and narrow.

    The downside was his church raised money with bake sales. The Catholic
    church raised money with Las Vegas Nights, bingo, and an annual horse
    show.

    Like the ELCA, There is a Reformed Church in America but the Dutch
    Reformed broke away the Canons of Dort. When my mother died the minister
    had been imported from the Netherlands since the seminaries weren't
    turning out ministers with the right degree of purity.


    Ob Linux: Protestants are sort of like Linux with multiple flavors that
    are hard to tell apart. Catholics are like Windows. Despite changes over
    the years a Windows computer is a Windows computer.



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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Sep 1 02:03:11 2025
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    On 8/31/25 9:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:26:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Ah, yes. I was always confused as to who was who between the LCA and the
    ELCA, but the division is familiar to me as a Dane. The Danish Lutheran
    state church has a fundamentalist wing ("The society for the Inner
    Mission") and a liberal wing (The Grundtvig church). When Danes
    immigrated to America, this brought both wings with them. The two kinds
    can be seen in Bergman's "Fanny and ALexander". It begins in the
    Grundtvig style sect, "the happy church". And in the second half, the
    children are adopted into the family of the fundamentalist relatives.

    The history is complicated. It took a while in the US to get the German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and so forth Lutherans singing from the same hymnal.

    Here in the US, I have heard the two referred to as "the Happy
    Lutherans" and "the Gloomy Lutherans".

    The other flavor I was exposed to as a kid was Dutch Reformed, talk about gloomy. My mother didn't take it seriously at least. In her later years
    she said she'd never voiced her views in case she got religion as she got older but figured at that point in her life it wasn't going to happen.

    There were moments. My father and uncle would get together every Saturday
    and lay in a 12 quart case of beer. Both the heavy case and the bottles themselves required a deposit but they didn't always get returned
    promptly. On one of her clean up campaigns she loaded several cases on my
    red Radio Flyer wagon and we headed down the street to a beverage store
    where they redeemed them. When we got there her pastor pulled in,
    presumably to lay in a stock of ginger ale. What wagon full of beer
    bottles? I don't see any beer bottles. He was young and had a pretty good idea not all of his flock were on the straight and narrow.

    The downside was his church raised money with bake sales. The Catholic
    church raised money with Las Vegas Nights, bingo, and an annual horse
    show.

    Like the ELCA, There is a Reformed Church in America but the Dutch
    Reformed broke away the Canons of Dort. When my mother died the minister
    had been imported from the Netherlands since the seminaries weren't
    turning out ministers with the right degree of purity.


    Ob Linux: Protestants are sort of like Linux with multiple flavors that
    are hard to tell apart. Catholics are like Windows. Despite changes over
    the years a Windows computer is a Windows computer.

    The "Lutherans" (many versions) were "revolutionaries".

    The shared idea was that there was zero need for a
    Pope or central Church - which REALLY peeved the
    HRCC. Wars over this stuff. STILL going on in
    Northern Ireland.

    Ideologically, at base, "Lutherans" really were not
    far off the HRCC line of doctrine. It was just that
    they didn't want the apparatus/pomp/bullshit of Rome.
    Saw it as fabricating a demigod of sorts out of Popes.

    Even rather recently, the gov of Minnesota (and
    former wrestler and Arnie bud) outrightly stated
    that he didn't see formal churches to be of much
    use in 'salvation'. He caught a lot of shit for
    that (from the church biz, of course)...

    So, is NOT over .......
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