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Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to English
UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. At the
right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button.
At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
Windows seems to have several language settings. This tutorial may help
to find if you have missed one. (Windows 10 and 11 are probably similar). https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/118777-change-system-ui-language-windows-10-a.html
On 26/09/2025 16:05, MikeS wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start
button. At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
Windows seems to have several language settings. This tutorial may
help to find if you have missed one. (Windows 10 and 11 are probably
similar).
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/118777-change-system-ui-language-windows-10-a.html
Thanks.
I checked it, but W11 is completely different from W10. I have finally
found some settings, but changing them, I got the Dutch language back.
So I have to change that again.
Fokke
On 26/09/2025 17:37, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 26/09/2025 16:05, MikeS wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start
button. At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
Windows seems to have several language settings. This tutorial may
help to find if you have missed one. (Windows 10 and 11 are probably
similar).
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/118777-change-system-ui-language-windows-10-a.html
Thanks.
I checked it, but W11 is completely different from W10. I have finally
found some settings, but changing them, I got the Dutch language back.
So I have to change that again.
Fokke
I managed to get the English language back, but on the Start screen it's still Dutch.
Fokke
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 26/09/2025 17:37, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 26/09/2025 16:05, MikeS wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the >>>>> Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start
button. At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
Windows seems to have several language settings. This tutorial may
help to find if you have missed one. (Windows 10 and 11 are probably
similar).
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/118777-change-system-ui-language-windows-10-a.html
Thanks.
I checked it, but W11 is completely different from W10. I have
finally found some settings, but changing them, I got the Dutch
language back.
So I have to change that again.
Fokke
I managed to get the English language back, but on the Start screen
it's still Dutch.
Fokke
Did you follow and complete all 12 steps in the tenforums.com help article?
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button.
At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button.
At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
To change the language on the Windows startup (Welcome) screen, first
add the desired language to your Windows display language in Settings >
Time & Language > Language & region.
Then, in Control Panel, go to
Clock, Language, and Region > Region > Administrative tab, click Copy Settings, check the box for the Welcome screen, and click OK. Restart
your computer to apply the changes.
On 26/09/2025 23:33, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button.
At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
To change the language on the Windows startup (Welcome) screen, first
add the desired language to your Windows display language in Settings >
Time & Language > Language & region.
I've done that before. The language is English UK. So that's OK.
Then, in Control Panel, go to
Clock, Language, and Region > Region > Administrative tab, click Copy
Settings, check the box for the Welcome screen, and click OK. Restart
your computer to apply the changes.
I've done that before as well, but it didn't work. On the Welcome screen
on the right hand side everything is still in Dutch.
But thanks anyway.
Fokke
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 26/09/2025 23:33, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. >>>> At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
To change the language on the Windows startup (Welcome) screen, first
add the desired language to your Windows display language in Settings >
Time & Language > Language & region.
I've done that before. The language is English UK. So that's OK.
Then, in Control Panel, go to
Clock, Language, and Region > Region > Administrative tab, click Copy
Settings, check the box for the Welcome screen, and click OK. Restart
your computer to apply the changes.
I've done that before as well, but it didn't work. On the Welcome
screen on the right hand side everything is still in Dutch.
But thanks anyway.
Fokke
Microsoft Account(MSA) Windows logon on Welcome screen?
-a- if so, is the online MSA configured for Dutch?
On 26/09/2025 23:33, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button.
At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
To change the language on the Windows startup (Welcome) screen, first
add the desired language to your Windows display language in Settings >
Time & Language > Language & region.
I've done that before. The language is English UK. So that's OK.
Then, in Control Panel, go to
Clock, Language, and Region > Region > Administrative tab, click Copy
Settings, check the box for the Welcome screen, and click OK. Restart
your computer to apply the changes.
I've done that before as well, but it didn't work. On the Welcome screen
on the right hand side everything is still in Dutch.
But thanks anyway.
Fokke
On 27/09/2025 10:03, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 26/09/2025 23:33, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. >>>> At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
To change the language on the Windows startup (Welcome) screen, first
add the desired language to your Windows display language in Settings >
Time & Language > Language & region.
I've done that before. The language is English UK. So that's OK.
Then, in Control Panel, go to
Clock, Language, and Region > Region > Administrative tab, click Copy
Settings, check the box for the Welcome screen, and click OK. Restart
your computer to apply the changes.
I've done that before as well, but it didn't work. On the Welcome
screen on the right hand side everything is still in Dutch.
But thanks anyway.
Fokke
In Settings - Time & Language:
Windows display language = English (UK)
In -Language and region:
Regional format = English (UK)
Country or region: UK
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Fokke
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 10:03, Fokke Nauta wrote:Windows 11 still has Control Panel which reveals a strange combination
On 26/09/2025 23:33, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 26/09/2025 14:02, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to
English UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. >>>>> At the right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
With regards,
Fokke Nauta
To change the language on the Windows startup (Welcome) screen, first
add the desired language to your Windows display language in Settings > >>>> Time & Language > Language & region.
I've done that before. The language is English UK. So that's OK.
Then, in Control Panel, go to
Clock, Language, and Region > Region > Administrative tab, click Copy
Settings, check the box for the Welcome screen, and click OK. Restart
your computer to apply the changes.
I've done that before as well, but it didn't work. On the Welcome
screen on the right hand side everything is still in Dutch.
But thanks anyway.
Fokke
In Settings - Time & Language:
Windows display language = English (UK)
In -Language and region:
Regional format = English (UK)
Country or region: UK
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Fokke
of old and new settings. Some options take you direct to the appropriate section of the modern Settings. Others open a small window dating back
to Win 10 (or usually much earlier). The latter often have obscure
settings which appear forgotten by Win 11 but still work.
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image <https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Are you logged in as Administrator?
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to make
any changes system-wide.
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to make
any changes system-wide.
Fokke
On 28/09/2025 09:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to make
any changes system-wide.
Fokke
Sorry!
I wrote: Device setup region = Dutch
But it is: Device setup region = Netherlands
Fokke
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 02:56:43 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 09:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to make >>>> any changes system-wide.
Fokke
Sorry!
I wrote: Device setup region = Dutch
But it is: Device setup region = Netherlands
Fokke
This post with the link titled "How to change system language on Windows
11 or Windows 10" shows how to "Configure region settings". https://www.elevenforum.com/t/what-region-to-set-for-windows-11.32639/post-552246
It may be what you need.
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to English
UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. At the
right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to English
UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. At the
right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
Exactly *which* screen are you talking about?
You say "click the Start button" which implies you're logged in.
But
later you mention the welcome screen. But my welcome screen does not
have a Start button and does not have things like Documents, Pictures,
etc. in any language.
However your description matches the use of the Start button of the alternative Open-Shell Menu. If *that* is what you're talking about,
then see the 'Language' tab of the Settings of Open-Shell Menu. AFAICT,
in Open-Shell Menu, you can set the language other than that of other
parts of the OS.
On 28/09/2025 17:51, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to English >> UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. At the
right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
Exactly *which* screen are you talking about?
The screen what I see when I click on the Start button.
I have understood that this is called the Welcome screen.
You say "click the Start button" which implies you're logged in.
Ofcourse I'm logged in. Admin account.
But
later you mention the welcome screen. But my welcome screen does not
have a Start button and does not have things like Documents, Pictures,
etc. in any language.
I haven't got a clue as what you mention your welcome screen.
However your description matches the use of the Start button of the alternative Open-Shell Menu. If *that* is what you're talking about,
then see the 'Language' tab of the Settings of Open-Shell Menu. AFAICT,
in Open-Shell Menu, you can set the language other than that of other
parts of the OS.
I don't have anything to do with a Open Shell Menu. Haven't got a clue
as to what that is.
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 17:51, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago I purchased a laptop with W11 Pro installed, with the
Dutch language.
I preferred the English language. I have changed the language to English >>>> UK. That works well, apart from when I click the Start button. At the
right hand side it's still in Dutch:
Documenten (Documents)
Afbeeldingen (Pictures)
Muziek (Music)
Instellingen (Set up)
and more examples.
How can I chang these in English UK as well?
In advance many thanks for your help.
Exactly *which* screen are you talking about?
The screen what I see when I click on the Start button.
I have understood that this is called the Welcome screen.
Most (all?) people call that the Start menu. It is not a 'screen',
because it is a popup (from the bottom/Taskbar) which only partly fills
the screen, so it's not a 'screen' in itself.
But to be pedantic, you are more or less 'correct': It is apparently
also known as the 'startscreen App', because when I search for 'start',
the top result is "startscreen App".
So 'Start menu' or 'Start screen', I don't mind.
You say "click the Start button" which implies you're logged in.
Ofcourse I'm logged in. Admin account.
But
later you mention the welcome screen. But my welcome screen does not
have a Start button and does not have things like Documents, Pictures,
etc. in any language.
I haven't got a clue as what you mention your welcome screen.
I don't think Windows has the notion of a 'welcome screen', but what I would consider the welcome screen is the screen which preceeds the sign-in/login/lock screen, i.e. the screen which has just a picture and little else.
However your description matches the use of the Start button of the
alternative Open-Shell Menu. If *that* is what you're talking about,
then see the 'Language' tab of the Settings of Open-Shell Menu. AFAICT,
in Open-Shell Menu, you can set the language other than that of other
parts of the OS.
I don't have anything to do with a Open Shell Menu. Haven't got a clue
as to what that is.
The Open-Shell Menu is an alternative to / addition to the native
Windows Start menu (your 'Start screen').
Now I know, what you mean by 'Start screen', I have looked at Settings
and see that you probably have enabled some Folders in Settings -> Personalisation -> Start -> Folders, which makes these folders - like Documents, Pictures, etc. - appear on *your* 'Start screen'.
BTW, even with these Folders switches On, I don't see any *labels*
- like "Documents" -, only folder *icons* (to the left of the Power
icon). Only when I hover over the icons, I see the labels. Is that what
you mean, Dutch labels, when you *hover* over the icons?
As the Folders switches are normally in their 'Off' position, I do not have any of them on *my* 'Start screen', so I did not know which
'screen' you were referring to.
Bottom line: Not 'welcome' screen, but 'Start menu' (or 'Start
screen'). And (probably) non-default settings.
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm,
Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down.
And I like these things all In English.
On 28/09/2025 11:48, Allan Higdon wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 02:56:43 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 09:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's >>>>>> the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch.
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to make >>>>> any changes system-wide.
Fokke
Sorry!
I wrote: Device setup region = Dutch
But it is: Device setup region = Netherlands
Fokke
This post with the link titled "How to change system language on Windows
11 or Windows 10" shows how to "Configure region settings".
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/what-region-to-set-for-windows-11.32639/post-552246
It may be what you need.
Thanks.
I had a look at it, but I had already done all of those things. I did it again, but it didn't make a difference.
In the welcome screen it's still Dutch at the right hand side.
Fokke
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm,
Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down.
And I like these things all In English.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
Fokke Nauta wrote:
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm, Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down.
And I like these things all In English.
That sounds either like the Win10 or an old Win11 2xH2 start menu,
certainly not a recent Win11 install ... unless you've got ClassicShell/OpenShell installed?
That (ClassicShell/OpenShell) is what I was/am thinking, or another
Start menu replacment/alternative
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 09:28:29 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 11:48, Allan Higdon wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 02:56:43 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>
wrote:
On 28/09/2025 09:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's >>>>>>> the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch. >>>>>>
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to >>>>>> make
any changes system-wide.
Fokke
Sorry!
I wrote: Device setup region = Dutch
But it is: Device setup region = Netherlands
Fokke
This post with the link titled "How to change system language on Windows >>> 11 or Windows 10" shows how to "Configure region settings".
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/what-region-to-set-for-windows-11.32639/post-552246
It may be what you need.
Thanks.
I had a look at it, but I had already done all of those things. I did it
again, but it didn't make a difference.
In the welcome screen it's still Dutch at the right hand side.
Fokke
There may be some additional information you haven't seen at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/254248/default-global-regional-setting
Look at Items #2 and #3.
Fokke Nauta wrote:
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of
applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm,
Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down.
And I like these things all In English.
That sounds either like the Win10 or an old Win11 2xH2 start menu,
certainly not a recent Win11 install ... unless you've got ClassicShell/OpenShell installed?
Frank Slootweg wrote:
That (ClassicShell/OpenShell) is what I was/am thinking, or another
Start menu replacment/alternative
Fokke, what do you see if you press Alt+Winkey instead of just WinKey?
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
[...]
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of
applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm,
Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down.
And I like these things all In English.
What you describe is exactly (well, very close to) what most people
call the 'classic' Start menu, i.e. the Start menu like it existed in
Windows 7 (and before) and which was removed/replaced in Windows 8/10/11.
FYI, The Open-Shell Menu I mentioned is a replacement for the Windows 8/10/11 Start menu and runs on Windows 8/10/11.
So I think you have the Open-Shell Menu (or its predecessor Classic
Start Menu (sometimes misnamed Classic Shell)). But if you have that, you should know that, right?
So I think you should try to make or find a screenshot of what *you* consider the 'Start screen' and post a link to that.
For comparison, *this* is what a *normal* Windows 11 Start menu looks like. See, no folder names!
<https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/SengRUvAhfVtzNb9zm9GRc-970-80.jpg.webp>
[First screenshot on: <https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-customize-the-windows-11-start-menu> (See, they say 'Start menu'!)]
I use Classic Start Menu
On 28/09/2025 19:45, Fokke Nauta wrote:
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
This does not align with the default Windows 11 settings. Have you
installed any extensions that alter the appearance and functionality of
the system defaults? Some people use extensions to make Windows 11 look
like Windows 10 or 7. I don't use any extensions because they cause
problems when I'm trying to explain to people what they're seeing on
their screen. When I click on the Start button, my screen looks like this:
<https://i.imgur.com/ub4sUTn.png>
Yes, you are right. I use the Classic Start Menu.
I could make a screen shot, but I don't know how to show it in this news group.
On 28/09/2025 21:37, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 28/09/2025 19:45, Fokke Nauta wrote:
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
This does not align with the default Windows 11 settings. Have you
installed any extensions that alter the appearance and functionality of
the system defaults? Some people use extensions to make Windows 11 look
like Windows 10 or 7. I don't use any extensions because they cause
problems when I'm trying to explain to people what they're seeing on
their screen. When I click on the Start button, my screen looks like
this:
<https://i.imgur.com/ub4sUTn.png>
Yes, you are right. I use the Classic Start Menu.
I could make a screen shot, but I don't know how to show it in this news group.
Fokke
On 29/09/2025 08:52, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 28/09/2025 21:37, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 28/09/2025 19:45, Fokke Nauta wrote:
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
This does not align with the default Windows 11 settings. Have you
installed any extensions that alter the appearance and functionality of
the system defaults? Some people use extensions to make Windows 11 look
like Windows 10 or 7. I don't use any extensions because they cause
problems when I'm trying to explain to people what they're seeing on
their screen. When I click on the Start button, my screen looks like
this:
<https://i.imgur.com/ub4sUTn.png>
Yes, you are right. I use the Classic Start Menu.
I could make a screen shot, but I don't know how to show it in this
news group.
Fokke
I doubt it is relevant to the current issue but Classic Start Menu is obsolete and not recommended for Windows 11. The modern version is Open-Shell Menu.
Fokke Nauta wrote:
I use Classic Start Menu
So, does *it* have language settings?
On 28/09/2025 21:29, Allan Higdon wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 09:28:29 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 11:48, Allan Higdon wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 02:56:43 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>
wrote:
On 28/09/2025 09:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps that's >>>>>>>> the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch. >>>>>>>
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to >>>>>>> make
any changes system-wide.
Fokke
Sorry!
I wrote: Device setup region = Dutch
But it is: Device setup region = Netherlands
Fokke
This post with the link titled "How to change system language on Windows >>>> 11 or Windows 10" shows how to "Configure region settings".
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/what-region-to-set-for-windows-11.32639/post-552246
It may be what you need.
Thanks.
I had a look at it, but I had already done all of those things. I did it >>> again, but it didn't make a difference.
In the welcome screen it's still Dutch at the right hand side.
Fokke
There may be some additional information you haven't seen at
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/254248/default-global-regional-setting
Look at Items #2 and #3.
Thanks.
Item 1: I have already done that.
Item 2: It's not quit clear as to what they meant.
And I'm not so keen to get into the registry.
Fokke
On 28/09/2025 21:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
[...]
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of
applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm,
Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down.
And I like these things all In English.
-a-a What you describe is exactly (well, very close to) what most people
call the 'classic' Start menu, i.e. the Start menu like it existed in
Windows 7 (and before) and which was removed/replaced in Windows 8/10/11.
-a-a FYI, The Open-Shell Menu I mentioned is a replacement for the Windows >> 8/10/11 Start menu and runs on Windows 8/10/11.
-a-a So I think you have the Open-Shell Menu (or its predecessor Classic
Start Menu (sometimes misnamed Classic Shell)). But if you have that, you
should know that, right?
-a-a So I think you should try to make or find a screenshot of what *you*
consider the 'Start screen' and post a link to that.
-a-a For comparison, *this* is what a *normal* Windows 11 Start menu looks >> like. See, no folder names!
<https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/SengRUvAhfVtzNb9zm9GRc-970-80.jpg.webp> >>
[First screenshot on:
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-customize-the-windows-11-start-menu>
(See, they say 'Start menu'!)]
Yes, I use the classic Start Menu. It looks like W7.
I could make a screen shot, but how can I show this in this news group?
Fokke
I use Classic Start Menu on all W10 pc's and the W11 laptops. I like it.
Fokke
On Mon, 9/29/2025 3:31 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 28/09/2025 21:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
[...]
OK, let's begin from the start.
When I click on the start butten, I see a screen at the left side.
I don't care anymore how it's called.
There is a left side and a right side. On the left side I see a lot of >>>> applications.
On the right side there is my name, and Documenten, Afbeeldingen,
Muziek, Universele toepassingen, Computer, Configuratiescherm,
Instellingen, Apparaten en printers, Standaardprogramma's en Shut Down. >>>> And I like these things all In English.
-a-a What you describe is exactly (well, very close to) what most people >>> call the 'classic' Start menu, i.e. the Start menu like it existed in
Windows 7 (and before) and which was removed/replaced in Windows 8/10/11. >>>
-a-a FYI, The Open-Shell Menu I mentioned is a replacement for the Windows >>> 8/10/11 Start menu and runs on Windows 8/10/11.
-a-a So I think you have the Open-Shell Menu (or its predecessor Classic >>> Start Menu (sometimes misnamed Classic Shell)). But if you have that, you >>> should know that, right?
-a-a So I think you should try to make or find a screenshot of what *you* >>> consider the 'Start screen' and post a link to that.
-a-a For comparison, *this* is what a *normal* Windows 11 Start menu looks >>> like. See, no folder names!
<https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/SengRUvAhfVtzNb9zm9GRc-970-80.jpg.webp> >>>
[First screenshot on:
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-customize-the-windows-11-start-menu>
(See, they say 'Start menu'!)]
Yes, I use the classic Start Menu. It looks like W7.
I could make a screen shot, but how can I show this in this news group?
Fokke
I can see a "Language" tab in the interface here.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/X43TtRzYZz63AVxBjxRVBh-1142-80.jpg.webp
( https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-restore-a-more-classic-start-menu-to-windows-11 )
winget install --id Open-Shell.Open-Shell-Menu
*******
To present pictures, I use
https://postimages.org/
# Upload an image (JPG, PNG, GIF)
# Dialog appears with various URLs
Direct link:
https://i.postimg.cc/BvZn2ZrB/test.jpg <=== copy this part and paste into USENET message
Paul
On 9/29/25 11:21, Fokke Nauta wrote:
I use Classic Start Menu on all W10 pc's and the W11 laptops. I like it.
Fokke
Which has its own language setting, independent from Windows:
Programs > Classic Shell > Classic Start Menu Settings > Language
Next time tell us all in your first post please, thank you.
To present pictures, I use
https://postimages.org/
# Upload an image (JPG, PNG, GIF)
# Dialog appears with various URLs
Direct link:
https://i.postimg.cc/BvZn2ZrB/test.jpg <=== copy this part and paste into USENET message
Paul
On 29/09/2025 16:38, dillinger wrote:Ok, my Classic Shell 4.10 on Windows 8.1 has no en-GB.
On 9/29/25 11:21, Fokke Nauta wrote:
I use Classic Start Menu on all W10 pc's and the W11 laptops. I like it. >>>
Fokke
Which has its own language setting, independent from Windows:
Programs > Classic Shell > Classic Start Menu Settings > Language
Next time tell us all in your first post please, thank you.
The language was set to English UK.
And next time I will think about it.
Fokke
On 28/09/2025 21:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Yes, I use the classic Start Menu. It looks like W7.
Sorry, but after 44 - mostly wasted- posts, I can't be bothered to
give more suggestions. Others (and I) already gave suggestions on how to solve this problem.
To present pictures, I use
-a-a-a-a https://postimages.org/
This site is unaccessible.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # Upload an image (JPG, PNG, GIF)
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # Dialog appears with various URLs
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Direct link:
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://i.postimg.cc/BvZn2ZrB/test.jpg-a-a-a-a <=== copy this part and paste into USENET message
-a-a-a Paul
Fokke
On Mon, 9/29/2025 1:32 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
To present pictures, I use
-a-a-a-a https://postimages.org/
This site is unaccessible.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # Upload an image (JPG, PNG, GIF)
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # Dialog appears with various URLs
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Direct link:
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://i.postimg.cc/BvZn2ZrB/test.jpg-a-a-a-a <=== copy this part and paste into USENET message
-a-a-a Paul
Fokke
It's having trouble today. After I sent up the test.jpg,
it became unresponsive to a later attempt.
It does that. Sometimes it has gateway failure 500 for example. But it will return.
It used to be loaded with advertising, but I no longer
see the same assortment of advertising that used to be
present. The site uses $30,000 worth of bandwidth per month,
to give some idea of the bandwidth usage. The site may have
changed hands at some point. It likely has a *lot* of
hard drives. It would not surprise me if it had 1000 hard
drives. It's not a small site.
I don't think it is possible any more, to make enough money
off advertising, to support a site like this. Someone has
deep pockets.
Like all image serving sites, it will (eventually) throw
away old content. Nothing lasts forever. One attempt was
made to shut down the site. But it came back.
Paul
On Mon, 9/29/2025 1:32 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
To present pictures, I use
-a-a-a-a https://postimages.org/
This site is unaccessible.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # Upload an image (JPG, PNG, GIF)
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # Dialog appears with various URLs
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Direct link:
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://i.postimg.cc/BvZn2ZrB/test.jpg-a-a-a-a <=== copy this part and paste into USENET message
-a-a-a Paul
Fokke
It's having trouble today. After I sent up the test.jpg,
it became unresponsive to a later attempt.
It does that. Sometimes it has gateway failure 500 for example. But it will return.
It used to be loaded with advertising, but I no longer
see the same assortment of advertising that used to be
present. The site uses $30,000 worth of bandwidth per month,
to give some idea of the bandwidth usage. The site may have
changed hands at some point. It likely has a *lot* of
hard drives. It would not surprise me if it had 1000 hard
drives. It's not a small site.
I don't think it is possible any more, to make enough money
off advertising, to support a site like this. Someone has
deep pockets.
Like all image serving sites, it will (eventually) throw
away old content. Nothing lasts forever. One attempt was
made to shut down the site. But it came back.
Paul
On 9/29/2025 7:25 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 29/09/2025 16:38, dillinger wrote:Ok, my Classic Shell 4.10 on Windows 8.1 has no en-GB.
On 9/29/25 11:21, Fokke Nauta wrote:
I use Classic Start Menu on all W10 pc's and the W11 laptops. I like
it.
Fokke
Which has its own language setting, independent from Windows:
Programs > Classic Shell > Classic Start Menu Settings > Language
Next time tell us all in your first post please, thank you.
The language was set to English UK.
And next time I will think about it.
Fokke
It is set to "Current OS language (en-US)".
You could try setting it to en-US, it probably picked nl-NL if you
installed Classic Shell before you switched Windows to en-GB.
Showing "Current OS language (en-GB)" could be an error in Classic Shell.
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 21:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[All deleted.]
Yes, I use the classic Start Menu. It looks like W7.
Sigh! :-( But you didn't bother to tell us that you did *not* use the *Windows 11* Start menu, but a *different* one, did you!?
Even me mentioning Open-Shell Menu in my *very first* post didn't ring
a bell!?
Sorry, but after 44 - mostly wasted- posts, I can't be bothered to
give more suggestions. Others (and I) already gave suggestions on how to solve this problem.
But because I'm such a nice guy, one more hint: When trying to fix
things, pay attention to the language of *folders* - i.e. Documents, Pictures, etc. - versus that of *other* items - i.e. Control Panel,
Settings, etc..
[...]
On 29/09/2025 20:31, dillinger wrote:
On 9/29/2025 7:25 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 29/09/2025 16:38, dillinger wrote:
On 9/29/25 11:21, Fokke Nauta wrote:
I use Classic Start Menu on all W10 pc's and the W11 laptops. I like >>>> it.
Fokke
Which has its own language setting, independent from Windows:
Programs > Classic Shell > Classic Start Menu Settings > Language
Next time tell us all in your first post please, thank you.
The language was set to English UK.
And next time I will think about it.
Fokke
Ok, my Classic Shell 4.10 on Windows 8.1 has no en-GB.
It is set to "Current OS language (en-US)".
You could try setting it to en-US, it probably picked nl-NL if you installed Classic Shell before you switched Windows to en-GB.
Showing "Current OS language (en-GB)" could be an error in Classic Shell.
I have changed it to en-US. But it did not make a different.
On Mon, 29 Sep 2025 02:19:16 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 28/09/2025 21:29, Allan Higdon wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 09:28:29 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>
wrote:
On 28/09/2025 11:48, Allan Higdon wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 02:56:43 -0500, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>
wrote:
On 28/09/2025 09:22, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/09/2025 21:41, Fraud Detective wrote:
On 27/09/2025 09:13, Fokke Nauta wrote:
In -device setup region: Dutch. I can't change that. Perhaps >>>>>>>>> that's
the reason the right hand side of the welcone screen is in Dutch. >>>>>>>>
Are you saying that the drop down menu as shown in this image
<https://i.imgur.com/Ilx0206.png> is not working?
Under Region I have three things:
Country or region = UK
Regional format = UK English
Device setup region = Dutch
The Device setup region is not on your image.
Are you logged in as Administrator?
Ofcourse
It is not only important but
necessary to be an administrator or a user with such privileges to >>>>>>>> make
any changes system-wide.
Fokke
Sorry!
I wrote: Device setup region = Dutch
But it is: Device setup region = Netherlands
Fokke
This post with the link titled "How to change system language on
Windows
11 or Windows 10" shows how to "Configure region settings".
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/what-region-to-set-for-windows-11.32639/post-552246
It may be what you need.
Thanks.
I had a look at it, but I had already done all of those things. I
did it
again, but it didn't make a difference.
In the welcome screen it's still Dutch at the right hand side.
Fokke
There may be some additional information you haven't seen at
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/254248/default-global-regional-setting
Look at Items #2 and #3.
Thanks.
Item 1: I have already done that.
Item 2: It's not quit clear as to what they meant.
And I'm not so keen to get into the registry.
Fokke
I believe the above information didn't apply to your problem.
Since your Device setup region = Netherlands, I believe the Registry
setting for that is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Control Panel\DeviceRegion
Could you enter the above in RegEdit to find out the value in the Data column in parentheses?
This doesn't change anything in the registry.
The Table of Geographical locations and their associated values is found at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/intl/table-of-geographical-locations
Mine is 244 for the United States. 242 is United Kingdom and 176 is Netherlands.
If your value is 176, it needs to be changed.
Based on the information in this topic, https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/dear-microsoft-why-cannot-i-uninstall-microsoft-edge-on-windows/
there is no way to change the Registry value for DeviceRegion unless the UserChoice Protection Driver (UCPD.sys) is disabled.
Another way to change Device setup region-a is at https://www.xda-developers.com/debloated-windows-11-through-official-means-how-you-can-too/
in the part about "Switching your setup region with official methods".
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 29/09/2025 20:31, dillinger wrote:
On 9/29/2025 7:25 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:I have changed it to en-US. But it did not make a different.
On 29/09/2025 16:38, dillinger wrote:
On 9/29/25 11:21, Fokke Nauta wrote:
I use Classic Start Menu on all W10 pc's and the W11 laptops. I like >>>>>> it.
Fokke
Which has its own language setting, independent from Windows:
Programs > Classic Shell > Classic Start Menu Settings > Language
Next time tell us all in your first post please, thank you.
The language was set to English UK.
And next time I will think about it.
Fokke
Ok, my Classic Shell 4.10 on Windows 8.1 has no en-GB.
It is set to "Current OS language (en-US)".
You could try setting it to en-US, it probably picked nl-NL if you
installed Classic Shell before you switched Windows to en-GB.
Showing "Current OS language (en-GB)" could be an error in Classic Shell. >>
Have you Exit-ed and restarted Classic Start Menu?
For Open-Shell Menu, the replacement for Classic Start Menu, you have
to exit the Menu for a language change to take effect (Open-Shell Menu actually tells you to do that). If you do not Exit and restart, the
displayed language is still the old language, not the newly set one.
To exit (for Open-Shell Menu, I think Classic Start Menu was the
same): Right-click on the Start button -> Exit.
If it doesn't work, uninstall and re-install Classic Start Menu,
setting the desired language during installation.
If either solution works, remember the "one more hint" I gave.
I changed the language, closed Classic start menu, and rebooted the
laptop. Didn't make a change. I guess it can't be changed and I have to
live with it.
Fokke Nauta wrote:
[snip]
I changed the language, closed Classic start menu, and rebooted the
laptop. Didn't make a change. I guess it can't be changed and I have
to live with it.
Perhaps re-install the OS from scratch, using an English version?
On 30/09/2025 16:39, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Have you Exit-ed and restarted Classic Start Menu?
For Open-Shell Menu, the replacement for Classic Start Menu, you have
to exit the Menu for a language change to take effect (Open-Shell Menu actually tells you to do that). If you do not Exit and restart, the displayed language is still the old language, not the newly set one.
To exit (for Open-Shell Menu, I think Classic Start Menu was the
same): Right-click on the Start button -> Exit.
If it doesn't work, uninstall and re-install Classic Start Menu,
setting the desired language during installation.
If either solution works, remember the "one more hint" I gave.
I changed the language, closed Classic start menu, and rebooted the
laptop. Didn't make a change. I guess it can't be changed and I have to
live with it.
If it doesn't work, uninstall and re-install Classic Start Menu,
setting the desired language during installation.
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 30/09/2025 16:39, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Have you Exit-ed and restarted Classic Start Menu?
For Open-Shell Menu, the replacement for Classic Start Menu, you have >>> to exit the Menu for a language change to take effect (Open-Shell Menu
actually tells you to do that). If you do not Exit and restart, the
displayed language is still the old language, not the newly set one.
To exit (for Open-Shell Menu, I think Classic Start Menu was the
same): Right-click on the Start button -> Exit.
If it doesn't work, uninstall and re-install Classic Start Menu,
setting the desired language during installation.
If either solution works, remember the "one more hint" I gave.
I changed the language, closed Classic start menu, and rebooted the
laptop. Didn't make a change. I guess it can't be changed and I have to
live with it.
You didn't say whether or not you tried:
If it doesn't work, uninstall and re-install Classic Start Menu,
setting the desired language during installation.
If that doesn't work, as a last try, you could uninstall Classic Start Menu and install Open-Shell Menu.
After all, Classic Start Menu, is obsolete/abandoned and Open-Shell
Menu is its replacement which is actively maintained. (On my English
(United Kingdom) system I can change Open-Shell Menu from en-US
(no en-GB, at least not standard)) to nl-NL and back again.)
Don't worry about the look-and-feel, it looks the same as Classic
Start Menu. If you would see them side-by-side, you probably won't be
able to tell the difference.
And of course you can go back to Classic Start Menu, if you want/need
to do that for some reason. Win-win.
<https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu>
or easier
<https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/>
(one points to the other)
I suggest that the names shown in that classic start menu screen are the actual names of the folders under your home folder.
You MAY be able to
solve the problem by going into your home folder and *renaming the
folders*.
It would make sense that the folders were created with names matching
the default folder names of the setup language, but once the folders are there, they will probably not be renamed when you change the language.
At least that is something you could look at ...
I suggest that the names shown in that classic start menu screen are the actual names of the folders under your home folder. You MAY be able to
solve the problem by going into your home folder and *renaming the
folders*.
It would make sense that the folders were created with names matching
the default folder names of the setup language, but once the folders are there, they will probably not be renamed when you change the language.
At least that is something you could look at ...
Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote:
I suggest that the names shown in that classic start menu screen are the
actual names of the folders under your home folder. You MAY be able to
solve the problem by going into your home folder and *renaming the
folders*.
It would make sense that the folders were created with names matching
the default folder names of the setup language, but once the folders are
there, they will probably not be renamed when you change the language.
At least that is something you could look at ...
No, as Fokke mentioned, the actual folder names are always in English, also if the system is for example set to Dutch.
Windows just use a 'trick', to *display* the names in the configured
local language, for example the real folder Pictures is *displayed* as Afbeeldingen in Dutch.
File Explorer uses this trick and shows Afbeeldingen and so can
Classic Start Menu and Open-Shell Menu, which probably do/have their
only language mapping.
That this is indeed the trick can be shown by using for example a
Command Prompt window and give a 'dir' command. That will show th real
name, Pictures.
And of course the real name is also shown by much/most other software.
For example if you make backup with File History, the actual backup will again have the real name, Pictures.
I assume that the 'Restore personal files' part of File History is
also language-aware and will map Pictures back to Afbeeldingen. But I can't/won't check that, because my wife objects to being kicked of her system! :-)
On 02/10/2025 16:30, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
I assume that the 'Restore personal files' part of File History is
also language-aware and will map Pictures back to Afbeeldingen. But I can't/won't check that, because my wife objects to being kicked of her system! :-)
So your wife is using a Dutch system?
My wife as well.
Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote:
I suggest that the names shown in that classic start menu screen are the
actual names of the folders under your home folder. You MAY be able to
solve the problem by going into your home folder and *renaming the
folders*.
It would make sense that the folders were created with names matching
the default folder names of the setup language, but once the folders are
there, they will probably not be renamed when you change the language.
At least that is something you could look at ...
No, as Fokke mentioned, the actual folder names are always in English,
also if the system is for example set to Dutch.
Windows just use a 'trick', to *display* the names in the configured
local language, for example the real folder Pictures is *displayed* as Afbeeldingen in Dutch.
File Explorer uses this trick and shows Afbeeldingen and so can
Classic Start Menu and Open-Shell Menu, which probably do/have their
only language mapping.
That this is indeed the trick can be shown by using for example a
Command Prompt window and give a 'dir' command. That will show th real
name, Pictures.
On 2025-10-02, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:[...]
No, as Fokke mentioned, the actual folder names are always in English, also if the system is for example set to Dutch.
Windows just use a 'trick', to *display* the names in the configured local language, for example the real folder Pictures is *displayed* as Afbeeldingen in Dutch.
File Explorer uses this trick and shows Afbeeldingen and so can
Classic Start Menu and Open-Shell Menu, which probably do/have their
only language mapping.
That this is indeed the trick can be shown by using for example a
Command Prompt window and give a 'dir' command. That will show th real name, Pictures.
Seems like a crazy, unmaintainable design ...
Lars Poulsen wrote:<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/shell/knownfolderid>
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Windows just use a 'trick', to *display* the names in the configured
local language, for example the real folder Pictures is *displayed* as
Afbeeldingen in Dutch.
Seems like a crazy, unmaintainable design ...
Not at all. There are only a few Libraries/folders with local
language names, Contacts, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, etc..
probably 10-20 in all.
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Lars Poulsen wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Windows just use a 'trick', to *display* the names in the configured
local language, for example the real folder Pictures is *displayed* as >>> Afbeeldingen in Dutch.
Seems like a crazy, unmaintainable design ...
Not at all. There are only a few Libraries/folders with local<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/shell/knownfolderid>
language names, Contacts, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, etc..
probably 10-20 in all.
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
On 02/10/2025 16:30, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
I assume that the 'Restore personal files' part of File History is
also language-aware and will map Pictures back to Afbeeldingen. But I
can't/won't check that, because my wife objects to being kicked of her
system! :-)
So your wife is using a Dutch system?
My wife as well.
My wife useD (past tense) a Dutch system
As I wrote elsewhere, I'm in the process of replacing her old Windows
10 system with a new Windows 11 system (Mini-PC).
The new system only came with the English (United States) Windows
display language, but no others, at least not Dutch.
Of course I could have done a 'Add a language' in Settings, but for
me, her administrator, English is easier for computer stuff, especially
for communicating in Usenet groups, forums, etc..
So at the moment, I have opted for the approach that the system is English, but her programs are Dutch. So far, so good (for most things).
My problem is, I think, similar to that of Fokke .... so I;m cutting in on his thread.
My Dual Boot (Win7 && MageiaLinux) Laptop died back in January but I had previously purchased a Win 11 Desktop ... so dragged it out.
Down in the bottom right of Screen, the 'Keyboard Layout' function was set to "ENG English (United States)" and "US".
I, however, don't live in the US so want to change to "ENG English (Australia)" and "AUS" but would settle for "ENG English (Australia) and "UK" ..... but that "UK" is not an option as far as I know, so have to settle for "ENG English (Australia)" and "US".
1.-a-a-a How can I change the "US" to either "AUS" or "UK", and,
2.-a-a-a What does the second setting ("US") actually mean and how can I change it??
TIA
My problem is, I think, similar to that of Fokke .... so I;m cutting in
on his thread.
My Dual Boot (Win7 && MageiaLinux) Laptop died back in January but I had previously purchased a Win 11 Desktop ... so dragged it out.
Down in the bottom right of Screen, the 'Keyboard Layout' function was
set to "ENG English (United States)" and "US".
I, however, don't live in the US so want to change to "ENG English (Australia)" and "AUS" but would settle for "ENG English (Australia) and "UK" ..... but that "UK" is not an option as far as I know, so have to settle for "ENG English (Australia)" and "US".
1. How can I change the "US" to either "AUS" or "UK", and,
2. What does the second setting ("US") actually mean and how can I change it??--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
For comparison:
I live in The Netherlands and Dutch is my native language.
My (physical) keyboard has the US layout, so no Dutch keys (yes, there were/are Dutch keyboards with Dutch keys).
My keyboard layouts in Windows are 'US' and 'United States- International'. I use the latter, so I can type some international characters, such as |+ ('u'with umlaut). more easily with special key combinations.
So while I'm Dutch and in The Netherlands, I have *not* set my Windows keyboard layout to 'Dutch', because I don't have a Dutch keyboard, but a
US one.
Likewise, you are Australian and live in Australia, but you don't set
your keyboard layout to Australian, because there's no such things as an Australian keyboard/layout.
1. How can I change the "US" to either "AUS" or "UK", and,
You probably *can* change it to 'UK', but, as explained, you
*shouldn't*, because you don't have a UK keyboard (with pound symbol),
but a US one.
2. What does the second setting ("US") actually mean and how can I
change it??
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
My problem is, I think, similar to that of Fokke .... so I;m cutting in
on his thread.
My Dual Boot (Win7 && MageiaLinux) Laptop died back in January but I had
previously purchased a Win 11 Desktop ... so dragged it out.
Down in the bottom right of Screen, the 'Keyboard Layout' function was
set to "ENG English (United States)" and "US".
That's correct, because this is about the keyboard *layout*, i.e.
whether the keyboard has any special keys, like the English pound
symbol. Your keyboard probably doesn't have any such keys.
It's *not* about which language you use, it's *not* about spelling,
it's *not* about the language of the Windows UI itself (i.e. whether it
says 'colour' or 'color'), etc..
I, however, don't live in the US so want to change to "ENG English
(Australia)" and "AUS" but would settle for "ENG English (Australia) and
"UK" ..... but that "UK" is not an option as far as I know, so have to
settle for "ENG English (Australia)" and "US".
AFAIK, there is no such thing as an Australian keyboard layout, but if
you want to be sure:
Settings -> Time & Language -> Language & Region.
Under 'Language'
you will have one or more 'Preferred languages', each
with three horizontal dots on the right.
Click on the dots -> ...
Language options -> scroll down to Keyboards -> Installed keyboards ->
Add a keyboard ->
Now you will get a long, long list of keyboard *layouts*, but you'll
not find anything for Australia, because there is no Australian
keyboard, just a 'standard' keyboard and that 'standard' keyboard is
called 'US', 'United States', etc., because that's its origin.
