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President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnrCOt be a rCLfar from donerCY
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnAt be a ofar from doneo
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-
knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnrCOt be a rCLfar from donerCY
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnAt be a ofar from doneo
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
On 10/13/2025 8:32 AM, Julian wrote:
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-
knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnrCOt be a rCLfar from donerCY
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
How many peace treaties have there been between Israel andIt is a reason to be cheerful which would have been unlikely
neighboring countries in the last 75 years? And all of them have
been broken.
You really want to do a happy dance about this, ONE DAY into
it?
On 10/13/2025 8:32 AM, Julian wrote:
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-
knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnrCOt be a rCLfar from donerCY
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
How many peace treaties have there been between Israel and
neighboring countries in the last 75 years? And all of them have
been broken.
You really want to do a happy dance about this, ONE DAY into
it?
I think I'll ask my AI, "How many peace treaties have there been
between Israel and neighboring countries in the last 75 years,
and how many of them have been broken?"
Maybe you should ask Grok, too.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn-At be a -ofar from done-o
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at
this point I think.
On 13/10/2025 16:39, Ned Ludd wrote:
On 10/13/2025 8:32 AM, Julian wrote:
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels- >>>>>>> knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnrCOt be a rCLfar from donerCY
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
How many peace treaties have there been between Israel and
neighboring countries in the last 75 years? And all of them have
been broken.
You really want to do a happy dance about this, ONE DAY into
it?
I think I'll ask my AI, "How many peace treaties have there been
between Israel and neighboring countries in the last 75 years,
and how many of them have been broken?"
Maybe you should ask Grok, too.
Ps. Of course the peace treaties will be broken until
the Jews are exterminated from the river to the sea.
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03rC>AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn-At be a -ofar from done-o
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at
this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now. Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
On 13/10/2025 16:39, Ned Ludd wrote:
On 10/13/2025 8:32 AM, Julian wrote:It is a reason to be cheerful which would have been unlikely
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels- >>>>>>> knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnAt be a ofar from doneo
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
How many peace treaties have there been between Israel and
neighboring countries in the last 75 years? And all of them have
been broken.
You really want to do a happy dance about this, ONE DAY into
it?
under Biden or Harris.
It is also a big deal for the families.
If the hostages weren't a big deal why didn't Hamas release
them earlier?
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at
this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now. >Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at
this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now. >> Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at
this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now. >>> Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at
this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of >their loved ones. oSplashyo eh
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>> this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of
their loved ones. rCLSplashyrCY eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy. As
news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>>>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done! Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly. It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>> this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of >>> their loved ones. oSplashyo eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy. As
news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international >territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and >Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people?--
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in >2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable.
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe
their own dreams. In reality, if oPalestineo becomes a state, it will >undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon
was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It >would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee >future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of >sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 >>>>>>>>>>> living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in
captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done?
Certainly.-a It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>> this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's
happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of >>> their loved ones.-a-a rCLSplashyrCY eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.-a As
news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people?
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in 2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable.
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe
their own dreams. In reality, if rCLPalestinerCY becomes a state, it will undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon
was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
On 10/13/2025 4:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Certainly.a It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>>> this point I think.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 >>>>>>>>>>>> living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in >>>>>>>>>>>> captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done? >>>>>>>>
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's
happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than >>>>>> they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of >>>> their loved ones.aa oSplashyo eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.a As
news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people?
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in
2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable. >>
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe
their own dreams. In reality, if oPalestineo becomes a state, it will
undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon
was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It
would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee
future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of
sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
But not Israel or the US.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:34:48 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 10/13/2025 4:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:And lots of splashy news when they are released.
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Certainly.-a It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>>>> this point I think.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in >>>>>>>>>>>>> captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done? >>>>>>>>>
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's
happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than >>>>>>> they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions. >>>>>>
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of >>>>> their loved ones.-a-a rCLSplashyrCY eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.-a As
news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international >>> territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people?
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in >>> 2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable. >>>
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe
their own dreams. In reality, if rCLPalestinerCY becomes a state, it will >>> undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon
was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It >>> would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee
future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of
sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
But not Israel or the US.
That much is agreed.
On 10/13/2025 1:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:34:48 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 10/13/2025 4:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:And lots of splashy news when they are released.
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Certainly.a It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>>>>> this point I think.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done? >>>>>>>>>>
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's >>>>>>>>> happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than >>>>>>>> they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions. >>>>>>>
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of >>>>>> their loved ones.aa oSplashyo eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.a As >>>>> news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international >>>> territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and >>>> Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people?
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in >>>> 2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable. >>>>
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe >>>> their own dreams. In reality, if oPalestineo becomes a state, it will
undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon >>>> was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It >>>> would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee >>>> future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of
sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
But not Israel or the US.
That much is agreed.
Apparently, some people do suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome. A >perpetual refugee camp administered by an armed terrorist group is not >tenable, even in the short term.
The question is, who is going in there to disarm the terrorists?
There's only two countries that could do that - the US and Israel.
Apparently, the US Sixth Fleet will be deployed and arrive in the area
in about one day. The US Special Forces may have to go in there and >straighten things out. There are approximately 3,000 armed militants
still causing trouble and stirring up the people in Gaza City.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:03:59 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/13/2025 1:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:34:48 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>Apparently, some people do suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome. A
wrote:
On 10/13/2025 4:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:And lots of splashy news when they are released.
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Certainly.-a It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>>>>>> this point I think.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done? >>>>>>>>>>>
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's >>>>>>>>>> happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal.
Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than >>>>>>>>> they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions. >>>>>>>>
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of
their loved ones.-a-a rCLSplashyrCY eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.-a As >>>>>> news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult
issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international >>>>> territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and >>>>> Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people?
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in >>>>> 2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable.
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe >>>>> their own dreams. In reality, if rCLPalestinerCY becomes a state, it will >>>>> undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon >>>>> was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It >>>>> would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee >>>>> future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of
sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
But not Israel or the US.
That much is agreed.
perpetual refugee camp administered by an armed terrorist group is not
tenable, even in the short term.
The question is, who is going in there to disarm the terrorists?
There's only two countries that could do that - the US and Israel.
Apparently, the US Sixth Fleet will be deployed and arrive in the area
in about one day. The US Special Forces may have to go in there and
straighten things out. There are approximately 3,000 armed militants
still causing trouble and stirring up the people in Gaza City.
Experience says, let hamas and the gangs duke it out. Intervention is
a bad bad idea.
On 10/13/2025 8:32 AM, Julian wrote:
On 13/10/2025 16:19, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 living >>>>>> hostages have been freed after more than two years in captivity... >>>>>>
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses-israels-
knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldnrCOt be a rCLfar from donerCY
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
How many peace treaties have there been between Israel and
neighboring countries in the last 75 years? And all of them have
been broken.
You really want to do a happy dance about this, ONE DAY into
it?
I think I'll ask my AI, "How many peace treaties have there been
between Israel and neighboring countries in the last 75 years,
and how many of them have been broken?"
Maybe you should ask Grok, too.
Ned
On 10/13/2025 2:42 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:03:59 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/13/2025 1:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:34:48 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>Apparently, some people do suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome. A
wrote:
On 10/13/2025 4:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:>
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:And lots of splashy news when they are released.
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason than >>>>>>>>>> they provided Israel with an easy justification for their actions. >>>>>>>>>
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Certainly.a It helps to remember that there is much more undone at >>>>>>>>>>>> this point I think.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. All 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done? >>>>>>>>>>>>
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's >>>>>>>>>>> happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal. >>>>>>>>>>
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the return of
their loved ones.aa oSplashyo eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.a As >>>>>>> news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult >>>>>>> issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free international >>>>>> territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and >>>>>> Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people? >>>>>>
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million people in >>>>>> 2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable.
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to believe >>>>>> their own dreams. In reality, if oPalestineo becomes a state, it will >>>>>> undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as Lebanon >>>>>> was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by Hamas. It >>>>>> would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would guarantee >>>>>> future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of
sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
But not Israel or the US.
That much is agreed.
perpetual refugee camp administered by an armed terrorist group is not
tenable, even in the short term.
The question is, who is going in there to disarm the terrorists?
There's only two countries that could do that - the US and Israel.
Apparently, the US Sixth Fleet will be deployed and arrive in the area
in about one day. The US Special Forces may have to go in there and
straighten things out. There are approximately 3,000 armed militants
still causing trouble and stirring up the people in Gaza City.
Experience says, let hamas and the gangs duke it out. Intervention is
a bad bad idea.
It's too late - we are going in there to disarm the militants and arrest
the terrorists. There is no other way.
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable.--
On 10/13/2025 2:42 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:03:59 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/13/2025 1:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:34:48 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>Apparently, some people do suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome. A
wrote:
On 10/13/2025 4:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/13/2025 10:49 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:45:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:-a-a >
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:22:56 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 13/10/2025 17:02, Tara wrote:
On Oct 13, 2025 at 11:39:03?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"Of course the hostages were a big deal if for no other reason >>>>>>>>>> than
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:19:00 -0000 (UTC), Tara
<tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Certainly.-a It helps to remember that there is much more >>>>>>>>>>>> undone at
On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:49:17 -0000 (UTC), Tara
<tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
President Trump is addressing the Israeli Parliament. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All 20
living
hostages have been freed after more than two years in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captivity...
https://order-order.com/2025/10/13/live-trump-addresses- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> israels-knesset-as-hostages-freed/
Trump got it done!-a Hostages home. Yea!
Sad to say, it is far from done.
Without this first phase, there wouldn?t be a ?far from done? >>>>>>>>>>>>
this point I think.
It IS possible to keep that in mind while celebrating what's >>>>>>>>>>> happening now.
Returning the hostages was paramount and a very big deal. >>>>>>>>>>
they provided Israel with an easy justification for their >>>>>>>>>> actions.
And lots of splashy news when they are released.
Oh you must mean the overwhelming joy of those who greeted the >>>>>>>> return of
their loved ones.-a-a rCLSplashyrCY eh
Yes, that was the easy part, but they are entitled to their joy.-a As >>>>>>> news, it is a sensational smoke screen hiding the more difficult >>>>>>> issues.
The only solution, long term, is to make Gaza an arms free
international
territory and relocate the refugees camps to Lebanon, Syria,
Jordan and
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where they can get aid, food and shelter.
For God's sake, why can't the Arab countries help their own people? >>>>>>
Germany alone saw a record net immigration of over 1.4 million
people in
2022!
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not >>>>>> tenable.
"Some people suffer from wishful-thinking syndrome and tend to
believe
their own dreams. In reality, if rCLPalestinerCY becomes a state, it will
undoubtedly become a terrorist state.
It would be immediately taken over by an Iranian proxy, just as
Lebanon
was taken over by Hezbollah, Yemen by the Houthis, and Gaza by
Hamas. It
would be flooded with Iranian weapons as well. All this would
guarantee
future war against Israel, more victims, occupation, and loss of
sovereignty." - V Schumacher, Quora
But not Israel or the US.
That much is agreed.
perpetual refugee camp administered by an armed terrorist group is not
tenable, even in the short term.
The question is, who is going in there to disarm the terrorists?
There's only two countries that could do that - the US and Israel.
Apparently, the US Sixth Fleet will be deployed and arrive in the area
in about one day. The US Special Forces may have to go in there and
straighten things out. There are approximately 3,000 armed militants
still causing trouble and stirring up the people in Gaza City.
Experience says, let hamas and the gangs duke it out.-a Intervention is
a bad bad idea.
It's too late - we are going in there to disarm the militants and arrest
the terrorists. There is no other way.
A perpetual refugee camp administered by a terrorist group is not tenable.