• creepiest

    From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 07:28:23 2025
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    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 10:30:02 2025
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    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar|!a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count
    on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal
    allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 10:42:41 2025
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    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 10:30:02 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar0a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count
    on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal >allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    Dedicate to people of v and to pres himbo

    is not the same as

    accepted the prize in his honor

    Which usually means in his place because he can't be here.

    Creepie.

    But the whole twisting the meaning of things to suit is a constant r
    trick. Maybe you learned it from him.

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 11:05:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 10/11/2025 10:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar|!a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count
    on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.


    https://www.thefp.com/p/the-woman-who-took-on-a-dictator-and-won-a-nobel-peace-prize

    On Friday in Oslo, Venezuelan opposition leader Mar|!a Corina Machado was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Machado, who has been in hiding ever
    since last yearrCOs fraudulent elections, is widely regarded as the force keeping the countryrCOs opposition alive in the face of Nicol|is MadurorCOs increasingly authoritarian regime. Machado, the committee said, is a
    rCLbrave and committed champion of peace,rCY who rCLkeeps the flame of democracy burning amid a growing darkness.rCY

    MachadorCOs story is a political thriller come to life. A 58-year-old industrial engineer and former member of parliament, she spent two
    decades as the most relentless opponent of Hugo Ch|ivez and his
    successor, Nicol|is Maduro.

    Once derided by the regime as la dama de hierro (the Iron Lady), she was banned from running in the presidential election. She then named a proxy
    and led a grassroots campaign that united the countryrCOs shattered opposition, drawing millions of Venezuelans to the polls in July 2024
    and winning a landslide victory.

    But MadurorCOs regime seized power anyway, and began accelerating its crackdown on dissent. Fourteen months later, Machado is in an
    undisclosed location and fears for her life. She still addresses her
    followers through encrypted video messages and clandestine radio transmissions, seeking to oust the undemocratic regime that has
    transformed Venezuela into a hub of international crime.

    And now, sherCOs been elevated to the global stage. Following the Nobel announcement, Machado wrote on X: rCLThis recognition of the struggle of
    all Venezuelans is a boost to conclude our task: to conquer Freedom.rCY
    She continued: rCL[T]oday, more than ever, we count on President Trump,
    the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve
    Freedom and democracy.rCY

    In recent months, Americans have watched their government edge closer to confrontation with Caracas. Under the banner of combating drug
    smuggling, the Trump administration has deployed at least eight ships
    carrying more than 4,000 personnel to the waters off Venezuela, and sent
    F-35 fighter jets to Puerto Rico. It has bombed boats accused of
    ferrying cocaine on behalf of the regimerCoa move that many say is unconstitutional. And it has doubled the reward for information leading
    to the arrest of Maduro to $50 million, calling him rCLone of the largest narco-traffickers in the world.rCY

    U.S. military officials are now drawing up options to target drug
    traffickers inside Venezuela, with strikes within the countryrCOs borders potentially beginning in a matter of weeks, according to four sources
    cited by NBC News. Is this just a counternarcotics operation, as the administration claims? For many Venezuelans, it is more than that; itrCOs
    a sign that the worldrCOs most powerful democracy is finally treating MadurorCOs regime as what they believe it to berCoa criminal syndicate, not
    a sovereign government.

    Last week, before she had become a Nobel laureate, I spoke with Machado
    via Zoom. It was a rare, wide-ranging conversation about the present and future of her countryrCoand what she wants the Trump administration, and
    the American people, to do to support her opposition movementrCOs fight against Maduro. Below is a lightly edited transcript of our conversation.

    Jonathan Jakubowicz: Americans today are allergic to foreign wars. After
    the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, the very mention of rCLinterventionrCY sets off alarms across both the right and the left. Why should the U.S. government be involved in Venezuela?

    Mar|!a Corina Machado: Venezuela is not Iraq or Afghanistan. ItrCOs three hours from the United States, with open access to the Caribbean, and it
    has been taken over by a narco-terrorist regime allied with the WestrCOs
    worst adversariesrCoRussia, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and powerful drug
    cartels. TheyrCOve turned our territory, institutions, and resources into
    an operational base for global crime: cocaine routes, gold trafficking, weapons smuggling, and human exploitation. Their goal is to weaken
    Western democracies, including the United States, from within.

    This is not a distant or ideological issuerCoitrCOs a matter of U.S.
    national security. Allowing a criminal state of this scale and proximity
    to consolidate power poses a direct and growing threat to the entire hemisphere.

    Now imagine the opposite: a free and democratic Venezuela. One that
    becomes a strategic ally in the fight against narco-terrorism, a
    reliable energy and trade partner, and a regional catalyst for stabilityrCoaccelerating the collapse of totalitarian regimes in Cuba and Nicaragua while blocking China, Russia, and Iran from expanding their
    reach in the Americas.

    So when the United States decides to act, it isnrCOt rCLintervening in Venezuela.rCY ItrCOs defending the hemisphererCoits people, its borders, and its values. A free Venezuela doesnrCOt just make the region safer; it strengthens the very foundations of the free world.

    JJ: For anyone not familiar with the situation, this might sound like an exaggeration.

    MCM: They only need to listen to the Drug Enforcement Administration,
    which has documented that nearly a quarterrCo24 percentrCoof the worldrCOs cocaine passes through Venezuela. Or to the FBI, which has identified
    Tren de Aragua, a transnational terrorist group run directly by Nicol|is Maduro, as a major threat to the American people. These criminal
    structures now operate across the Americas, from Canada to Argentina.
    They actively undermine U.S. security. No other adversary of the United
    States has that kind of direct, on-foot access to American territory.

    JJ: But an isolationist might argue that it would be enough for America
    to secure its border. Why go overseas to fight for regime change?

    MCM: The isolationist argument for solely securing the U.S. border is fundamentally flawed because the threat from Venezuela is not a
    traditional overseas problem; itrCOs a criminal and security threat that
    has already projected itself across the hemisphere and directly
    threatens U.S. stability.

    The term rCLregime changerCY is misleading. Control over Venezuela was
    already mandated by the people through the 2024 elections. The issue is
    that a Maduro-allied criminal organization, known as the Cartel de los
    Soles, is actively refusing to yield power and has violently seized
    control of a nation that was historically one of the United StatesrCO
    closest allies.

    Decades before countries like Spain, South Korea, or Portugal shed
    military dictatorships, Venezuela already had a stable democracy. No one
    has to teach Venezuelans how democratic institutions work. The current
    cartel seized power only through the gradual dismantling of those
    institutions and brutal repression, not due to a lack of democratic culture.

    Ignoring the problem allows this narco-terrorist hubrCoallied with Russia, Iran, and HezbollahrCoto guarantee continuous, escalating border and
    security crises for the U.S. Fighting the criminal regime in Venezuela
    is the most effective form of forward defense, securing American
    interests, and stabilizing the hemisphere.

    We want democracyrCoone that guarantees the freedom to work, to create, to speak without fear. A nation where life is lived with dignity and guided
    by justice, solidarity, and the strength of family.

    JJ: But isnrCOt there a risk that it can turn into another quagmire?

    MCM: No, on the contrary! It will be a transition from current chaos to
    order and the rule of law. It will be an orderly transition for several compelling reasons.

    First, I daresay there is no other society in the hemisphere with
    greater cohesion than the Venezuelan one. The vast majority of
    Venezuelans want the same thing: to be able to live with dignity, with opportunities, and with our children back home. This is only possible
    after the Maduro regime is gone.

    Second, the rejection of Maduro within the Armed Forces and the police
    is immense. The Venezuelan Armed Forces were decisive in our electoral
    victory in July 2024. Every voting center was protected by them, and in
    all of them, the military collaborated so that our teams obtained
    original copies of the tally sheets that demonstrated our victory. Even
    in the precincts where the military themselves voted, we won by the same overwhelming margins as the rest of the nation. That tells you where
    their loyalties truly lie. They are with the Venezuelan peoplerCobut they
    live in constant fear, under surveillance, with many tortured or killed
    at the slightest suspicion of dissent.

    The reality is that repression is enforced not by the rank and file, but
    by a minuscule high command and a few thousand loyal subordinates. The
    vast majority of the Armed Forces and police are waiting for the moment
    when they can stand with us. They will be the first to help us pacify
    the country once Maduro is gone. We have already identified every
    irregular grouprCocartels, guerrillas, and paramilitariesrCoand we have a
    plan for a peaceful transition back to constitutional democracy.

    JJ: Would it be that easy?

    MCM: Not easy. Complex. And challenging. But the reason eight million VenezuelansrConearly 30 percent of our populationrCohave fled the country is not civil war or armed conflict. It is the direct result of catastrophic economic policies that left us poorer than Haiti, and the brutal
    repression of anyone who dares to hope for freedom and change.

    But unlike the nations where the U.S. has intervened in the Middle East, Venezuela has a cohesive populationrCoone that shares language, religion, race, and culture. A nation far closer to the United States than any
    other in South America. We play more baseball than soccer. You can buy a
    hot dog on every corner. Our people have never regarded the United
    States as an enemy. And you can see proof of this in the Venezuelans who
    are thriving in the United StatesrCofrom the former president of MIT to Silicon Valley founders, Emmy and Grammy winners, Oscar nominees, Major
    League Baseball superstars, and Triple CrownrCowinning jockeys.

    We are a nation overflowing with talent. And for the first time in our history, almost all of us are politically and socially aligned. We want democracyrCoone that guarantees the freedom to work, to create, to speak without fear. A nation where life is lived with dignity and guided by
    justice, solidarity, and the strength of family.

    JJ: Why is everyone so politically aligned now?

    MCM: Because the reality is unbearable. Eighty-six percent live in
    poverty. More than 70 percent in critical poverty. Retirees survive on
    $1 a month. Children attend school an average of two days a weekrCoand
    grow up with the highest malnutrition rates in the hemisphere. ItrCOs not
    hard to see this is unsustainable.

    JJ: Are those numbers the reason for the mass migration?

    MCM: Yes. And the lack of future and freedom. But democracy in Venezuela
    will reverse that migration. You will see millions of Venezuelans
    returning home. When I spent months campaigning across the country, I
    heard the same cry everywhere: We want our children to come back home.

    One man stopped me once, his eyes filled with tears, and said: rCLYou are
    the last hope I have of ever seeing my children again.rCY I hugged him and told him the truth: that herCoand people like himrCowere my only hope of seeing my own children return. That moment became the heart of my entire campaign.

    We are a nation that loves family. Rich or poor, old and youngrCoit
    doesnrCOt matter. We all want the same thing: for our children to come
    home, to stay home, and for those who have built lives abroad to be able
    to visit, to reunite, and to help rebuild our future.

    Our families have been torn apart not by war, but by hunger and lack of opportunity. And itrCOs not just our tragedy. Every country in the
    Americas feels the weight of our exodus.

    JJ: Families are important, but people need to eat. How would you entice
    them to come back?

    MCM: Business opportunities. Venezuela has the potential to become the
    energy hub of the Americas. We hold the largest oil reserves in the worldrCogreater than Saudi ArabiarCOs. We have the eighth-largest reserves
    of natural gas, and the fifth-largest of gold. Great coasts and infrastructure. These are not abstract figures; they are the foundation
    of a transformation.

    Imagine a $1.7 trillion business opportunity in diverse sectors,
    igniting almost overnight, fueled by energy, minerals, and the talent of millions of Venezuelans returning home. That prosperity wonrCOt just be oursrCoit will ripple across the Americas. It will mean cheaper, more
    secure energy for the United States. It will mean stability for the
    region. For investors and entrepreneurs, Venezuela will be the hub of a
    new era of growth, innovation, and opportunity.

    JJ: ItrCOs easy to imagine what Venezuela could become. WhatrCOs harder to imagine is the spark that makes it possible. What does America need to
    do to help enable that change?

    MCM: WerCOve asked the international community to cut off the cartelrCOs
    money supply. The dollars Maduro receives from drug trafficking, from black-market oil sales, from money launderingrCothat flow needs to stop.
    Only then will he understand that time is up, and his best option is to
    accept terms for a negotiated exit. Right now, Maduro still tells his
    inner circle that the United States is bluffing. The only way to change
    his perception is to increase pressure and send a clear message that he
    has to go.

    There is an impressive international coalition focused on combating the
    Maduro regimerColed by the United States, and joined by the UK, France,
    the Netherlands, and many Caribbean and Latin American nations. It sends
    the right message. But as long as Maduro believes the world is bluffing,
    he wonrCOt accept it is time to go.

    JJ: WerCOve just seen President Trump lay out a plan for Gaza that
    includes a form of amnesty for terrorists who surrender their weapons
    and leave to places where they wonrCOt be harmed. Would you offer
    something similar to members of MadurorCOs Cartel de los Soles?

    MCM: We have always said we are open to serious, verifiable negotiations
    and to offering guarantees to those who facilitate a peaceful
    transition. I canrCOt go into operational details now, but the answer is
    yes: We are prepared to discuss arrangements that help end the violence
    and restore the rule of law. What those who today hold power must
    understand is that their position is far weaker than it was a year
    agorCoand it will continue to erode. Every day they delay makes any future negotiation more costly for them; waiting only narrows their options.

    JJ: Would you say the only thing stopping this transition is their
    inability to recognize that their time is up?

    MCM: I believe many of them already know their time is up. And thatrCOs precisely why werCOre seeing what werCOre seeing inside the regime.

    JJ: What are we seeing?

    MCM: Desperation. Fear. Betrayal. Paranoia. They spy on each other,
    inform on each other, and quietly prepare escape plans to save their own skinrCoeven if it means giving up their closest allies. ThatrCOs why I say there is no going back. Yes, there are still radicals willing to
    sacrifice themselves before letting Venezuela be free. But they are
    fewer every day, increasingly isolated. And the firmer and more united
    the international community remains, the faster this process will move
    to its inevitable conclusion.

    JJ: What do you say to those who have given up hoperCoand who think what yourCOre describing is impossible?

    MCM: We already did the impossible. We defeated them under their own rulesrCowithout money, with more than a million volunteersrCoand we proved
    to the world that we won the election in a landslide. In response,
    Maduro declared war on Venezuelans. But this country does not belong to
    him. It belongs to its people; courageous, hardworking, family loving
    and profoundly religious.

    And even though Venezuelans have known nothing but socialism, we
    strongly want to live in an open society that respects private
    initiative and property, where no one begs the state for crumbs, but
    lives proudly from their work. Imagine what will happen when that lock
    is finally broken. You will see an explosion of energy, of creativity,
    of entrepreneurship. You will see the rebirth of a nation.

    But you will also see something more: the creation of the tech hub of
    the Americas, a country that will, at last, offer the conditions to
    build, with rule of law, respect for property, incentives for
    entrepreneurs, and an efficient, accountable government. And that
    national revival will not only transform us, it will inspire the world.

    JJ: You mention socialism. Believe it or not, there is a generation of Americans today who are flirting with socialism. And when Venezuela is
    raised as a warning, they say: That wasnrCOt real socialism. Are they wrong?

    MCM: Twenty-six years ago, Venezuelan youth fell in love with a
    socialist in Hugo Ch|ivez. When people pointed to Cuba as a warning, they said, rCLVenezuela is not Cuba. And Cuba is not real socialism.rCY But here
    we arerCoworse than Cuba.

    Socialism always follows the same pattern. It elevates the state above
    the citizen, strips away your autonomy, your conscience, your dignity,
    your ability to choose. And it does so with a seductive lie. It whispers
    of equality, but the only equality it delivers is at the bottomrCowhere everyone is dragged down together. That has been the case in every
    nation, on every continent, in every culture where it has been tried.
    The result is always the same: a gigantic state that crushes the people beneath it, and once it takes hold, is terribly hard to remove.

    Only free societiesrCowhere the individual comes firstrCocan nurture both liberty and the responsibility that sustains it. Because freedom without responsibility decays, and responsibility without freedom is tyranny.
    But when merit becomes the path to rise, when effort and creativity are rewarded, then every citizen is called to succeedrCothe whole nation rises together.

    That is what we want for Venezuela. And it is why I say to the American people: Do not be seduced. Socialism is the sexiest path to losing your freedom. Guard your freedom jealously. Defend it fiercely. Because
    freedom is not just an American promiserCoit is the hope of the world.
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 11:30:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:05:24 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 10:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar0a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count
    on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal
    allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.


    https://www.thefp.com/p/the-woman-who-took-on-a-dictator-and-won-a-nobel-peace-prize

    She is a great defender of v. She still does not say that she
    accepted the award "in honor of" himbo. I say she deserves the award
    and himbo does not.

    I disagree with some of her politics, but that is not the point. I
    agree that intervention in foreign politics has not worked out as
    hoped when tried. It would be worth a shot to cut off maduro's cash
    flow. If that is possible in today's banking world. Evasion of
    control of money flow seems possible if you have enough money these
    days. Surely that would be true of maduro. But give it a try.

    Great efforts are now made to stop the flow of dirty money, but still
    it slips through.

    On Friday in Oslo, Venezuelan opposition leader Mar0a Corina Machado was >awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Machado, who has been in hiding ever
    since last yearAs fraudulent elections, is widely regarded as the force >keeping the countryAs opposition alive in the face of Nicolbs MaduroAs >increasingly authoritarian regime. Machado, the committee said, is a
    obrave and committed champion of peace,o who okeeps the flame of
    democracy burning amid a growing darkness.o

    MachadoAs story is a political thriller come to life. A 58-year-old >industrial engineer and former member of parliament, she spent two
    decades as the most relentless opponent of Hugo Chbvez and his
    successor, Nicolbs Maduro.

    Once derided by the regime as la dama de hierro (the Iron Lady), she was >banned from running in the presidential election. She then named a proxy
    and led a grassroots campaign that united the countryAs shattered >opposition, drawing millions of Venezuelans to the polls in July 2024
    and winning a landslide victory.

    But MaduroAs regime seized power anyway, and began accelerating its >crackdown on dissent. Fourteen months later, Machado is in an
    undisclosed location and fears for her life. She still addresses her >followers through encrypted video messages and clandestine radio >transmissions, seeking to oust the undemocratic regime that has
    transformed Venezuela into a hub of international crime.

    And now, sheAs been elevated to the global stage. Following the Nobel >announcement, Machado wrote on X: oThis recognition of the struggle of
    all Venezuelans is a boost to conclude our task: to conquer Freedom.o
    She continued: o[T]oday, more than ever, we count on President Trump,
    the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the >democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve
    Freedom and democracy.o

    In recent months, Americans have watched their government edge closer to >confrontation with Caracas. Under the banner of combating drug
    smuggling, the Trump administration has deployed at least eight ships >carrying more than 4,000 personnel to the waters off Venezuela, and sent >F-35 fighter jets to Puerto Rico. It has bombed boats accused of
    ferrying cocaine on behalf of the regimeua move that many say is >unconstitutional. And it has doubled the reward for information leading
    to the arrest of Maduro to $50 million, calling him oone of the largest >narco-traffickers in the world.o

    U.S. military officials are now drawing up options to target drug >traffickers inside Venezuela, with strikes within the countryAs borders >potentially beginning in a matter of weeks, according to four sources
    cited by NBC News. Is this just a counternarcotics operation, as the >administration claims? For many Venezuelans, it is more than that; itAs
    a sign that the worldAs most powerful democracy is finally treating
    MaduroAs regime as what they believe it to beua criminal syndicate, not
    a sovereign government.

    Last week, before she had become a Nobel laureate, I spoke with Machado
    via Zoom. It was a rare, wide-ranging conversation about the present and >future of her countryuand what she wants the Trump administration, and
    the American people, to do to support her opposition movementAs fight >against Maduro. Below is a lightly edited transcript of our conversation.

    Jonathan Jakubowicz: Americans today are allergic to foreign wars. After
    the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, the very mention of ointerventiono >sets off alarms across both the right and the left. Why should the U.S. >government be involved in Venezuela?

    Mar0a Corina Machado: Venezuela is not Iraq or Afghanistan. ItAs three
    hours from the United States, with open access to the Caribbean, and it
    has been taken over by a narco-terrorist regime allied with the WestAs
    worst adversariesuRussia, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and powerful drug
    cartels. TheyAve turned our territory, institutions, and resources into
    an operational base for global crime: cocaine routes, gold trafficking, >weapons smuggling, and human exploitation. Their goal is to weaken
    Western democracies, including the United States, from within.

    This is not a distant or ideological issueuitAs a matter of U.S.
    national security. Allowing a criminal state of this scale and proximity
    to consolidate power poses a direct and growing threat to the entire >hemisphere.

    Now imagine the opposite: a free and democratic Venezuela. One that
    becomes a strategic ally in the fight against narco-terrorism, a
    reliable energy and trade partner, and a regional catalyst for >stabilityuaccelerating the collapse of totalitarian regimes in Cuba and >Nicaragua while blocking China, Russia, and Iran from expanding their
    reach in the Americas.

    So when the United States decides to act, it isnAt ointervening in >Venezuela.o ItAs defending the hemisphereuits people, its borders, and
    its values. A free Venezuela doesnAt just make the region safer; it >strengthens the very foundations of the free world.

    JJ: For anyone not familiar with the situation, this might sound like an >exaggeration.

    MCM: They only need to listen to the Drug Enforcement Administration,
    which has documented that nearly a quarteru24 percentuof the worldAs
    cocaine passes through Venezuela. Or to the FBI, which has identified
    Tren de Aragua, a transnational terrorist group run directly by Nicolbs >Maduro, as a major threat to the American people. These criminal
    structures now operate across the Americas, from Canada to Argentina.
    They actively undermine U.S. security. No other adversary of the United >States has that kind of direct, on-foot access to American territory.

    JJ: But an isolationist might argue that it would be enough for America
    to secure its border. Why go overseas to fight for regime change?

    MCM: The isolationist argument for solely securing the U.S. border is >fundamentally flawed because the threat from Venezuela is not a
    traditional overseas problem; itAs a criminal and security threat that
    has already projected itself across the hemisphere and directly
    threatens U.S. stability.

    The term oregime changeo is misleading. Control over Venezuela was
    already mandated by the people through the 2024 elections. The issue is
    that a Maduro-allied criminal organization, known as the Cartel de los >Soles, is actively refusing to yield power and has violently seized
    control of a nation that was historically one of the United StatesA
    closest allies.

    Decades before countries like Spain, South Korea, or Portugal shed
    military dictatorships, Venezuela already had a stable democracy. No one
    has to teach Venezuelans how democratic institutions work. The current >cartel seized power only through the gradual dismantling of those >institutions and brutal repression, not due to a lack of democratic culture.

    Ignoring the problem allows this narco-terrorist hubuallied with Russia, >Iran, and Hezbollahuto guarantee continuous, escalating border and
    security crises for the U.S. Fighting the criminal regime in Venezuela
    is the most effective form of forward defense, securing American
    interests, and stabilizing the hemisphere.

    We want democracyuone that guarantees the freedom to work, to create, to >speak without fear. A nation where life is lived with dignity and guided
    by justice, solidarity, and the strength of family.

    JJ: But isnAt there a risk that it can turn into another quagmire?

    MCM: No, on the contrary! It will be a transition from current chaos to >order and the rule of law. It will be an orderly transition for several >compelling reasons.

    First, I daresay there is no other society in the hemisphere with
    greater cohesion than the Venezuelan one. The vast majority of
    Venezuelans want the same thing: to be able to live with dignity, with >opportunities, and with our children back home. This is only possible
    after the Maduro regime is gone.

    Second, the rejection of Maduro within the Armed Forces and the police
    is immense. The Venezuelan Armed Forces were decisive in our electoral >victory in July 2024. Every voting center was protected by them, and in
    all of them, the military collaborated so that our teams obtained
    original copies of the tally sheets that demonstrated our victory. Even
    in the precincts where the military themselves voted, we won by the same >overwhelming margins as the rest of the nation. That tells you where
    their loyalties truly lie. They are with the Venezuelan peopleubut they
    live in constant fear, under surveillance, with many tortured or killed
    at the slightest suspicion of dissent.

    The reality is that repression is enforced not by the rank and file, but
    by a minuscule high command and a few thousand loyal subordinates. The
    vast majority of the Armed Forces and police are waiting for the moment
    when they can stand with us. They will be the first to help us pacify
    the country once Maduro is gone. We have already identified every
    irregular groupucartels, guerrillas, and paramilitariesuand we have a
    plan for a peaceful transition back to constitutional democracy.

    JJ: Would it be that easy?

    MCM: Not easy. Complex. And challenging. But the reason eight million >Venezuelansunearly 30 percent of our populationuhave fled the country is
    not civil war or armed conflict. It is the direct result of catastrophic >economic policies that left us poorer than Haiti, and the brutal
    repression of anyone who dares to hope for freedom and change.

    But unlike the nations where the U.S. has intervened in the Middle East, >Venezuela has a cohesive populationuone that shares language, religion, >race, and culture. A nation far closer to the United States than any
    other in South America. We play more baseball than soccer. You can buy a
    hot dog on every corner. Our people have never regarded the United
    States as an enemy. And you can see proof of this in the Venezuelans who
    are thriving in the United Statesufrom the former president of MIT to >Silicon Valley founders, Emmy and Grammy winners, Oscar nominees, Major >League Baseball superstars, and Triple Crownuwinning jockeys.

    We are a nation overflowing with talent. And for the first time in our >history, almost all of us are politically and socially aligned. We want >democracyuone that guarantees the freedom to work, to create, to speak >without fear. A nation where life is lived with dignity and guided by >justice, solidarity, and the strength of family.

    JJ: Why is everyone so politically aligned now?

    MCM: Because the reality is unbearable. Eighty-six percent live in
    poverty. More than 70 percent in critical poverty. Retirees survive on
    $1 a month. Children attend school an average of two days a weekuand
    grow up with the highest malnutrition rates in the hemisphere. ItAs not
    hard to see this is unsustainable.

    JJ: Are those numbers the reason for the mass migration?

    MCM: Yes. And the lack of future and freedom. But democracy in Venezuela >will reverse that migration. You will see millions of Venezuelans
    returning home. When I spent months campaigning across the country, I
    heard the same cry everywhere: We want our children to come back home.

    One man stopped me once, his eyes filled with tears, and said: oYou are
    the last hope I have of ever seeing my children again.o I hugged him and >told him the truth: that heuand people like himuwere my only hope of
    seeing my own children return. That moment became the heart of my entire >campaign.

    We are a nation that loves family. Rich or poor, old and younguit
    doesnAt matter. We all want the same thing: for our children to come
    home, to stay home, and for those who have built lives abroad to be able
    to visit, to reunite, and to help rebuild our future.

    Our families have been torn apart not by war, but by hunger and lack of >opportunity. And itAs not just our tragedy. Every country in the
    Americas feels the weight of our exodus.

    JJ: Families are important, but people need to eat. How would you entice >them to come back?

    MCM: Business opportunities. Venezuela has the potential to become the >energy hub of the Americas. We hold the largest oil reserves in the >worldugreater than Saudi ArabiaAs. We have the eighth-largest reserves
    of natural gas, and the fifth-largest of gold. Great coasts and >infrastructure. These are not abstract figures; they are the foundation
    of a transformation.

    Imagine a $1.7 trillion business opportunity in diverse sectors,
    igniting almost overnight, fueled by energy, minerals, and the talent of >millions of Venezuelans returning home. That prosperity wonAt just be >oursuit will ripple across the Americas. It will mean cheaper, more
    secure energy for the United States. It will mean stability for the
    region. For investors and entrepreneurs, Venezuela will be the hub of a
    new era of growth, innovation, and opportunity.

    JJ: ItAs easy to imagine what Venezuela could become. WhatAs harder to >imagine is the spark that makes it possible. What does America need to
    do to help enable that change?

    MCM: WeAve asked the international community to cut off the cartelAs
    money supply. The dollars Maduro receives from drug trafficking, from >black-market oil sales, from money launderinguthat flow needs to stop.
    Only then will he understand that time is up, and his best option is to >accept terms for a negotiated exit. Right now, Maduro still tells his
    inner circle that the United States is bluffing. The only way to change
    his perception is to increase pressure and send a clear message that he
    has to go.

    There is an impressive international coalition focused on combating the >Maduro regimeuled by the United States, and joined by the UK, France,
    the Netherlands, and many Caribbean and Latin American nations. It sends
    the right message. But as long as Maduro believes the world is bluffing,
    he wonAt accept it is time to go.

    JJ: WeAve just seen President Trump lay out a plan for Gaza that
    includes a form of amnesty for terrorists who surrender their weapons
    and leave to places where they wonAt be harmed. Would you offer
    something similar to members of MaduroAs Cartel de los Soles?

    MCM: We have always said we are open to serious, verifiable negotiations
    and to offering guarantees to those who facilitate a peaceful
    transition. I canAt go into operational details now, but the answer is
    yes: We are prepared to discuss arrangements that help end the violence
    and restore the rule of law. What those who today hold power must
    understand is that their position is far weaker than it was a year
    agouand it will continue to erode. Every day they delay makes any future >negotiation more costly for them; waiting only narrows their options.

    JJ: Would you say the only thing stopping this transition is their
    inability to recognize that their time is up?

    MCM: I believe many of them already know their time is up. And thatAs >precisely why weAre seeing what weAre seeing inside the regime.

    JJ: What are we seeing?

    MCM: Desperation. Fear. Betrayal. Paranoia. They spy on each other,
    inform on each other, and quietly prepare escape plans to save their own >skinueven if it means giving up their closest allies. ThatAs why I say
    there is no going back. Yes, there are still radicals willing to
    sacrifice themselves before letting Venezuela be free. But they are
    fewer every day, increasingly isolated. And the firmer and more united
    the international community remains, the faster this process will move
    to its inevitable conclusion.

    JJ: What do you say to those who have given up hopeuand who think what >youAre describing is impossible?

    MCM: We already did the impossible. We defeated them under their own >rulesuwithout money, with more than a million volunteersuand we proved
    to the world that we won the election in a landslide. In response,
    Maduro declared war on Venezuelans. But this country does not belong to
    him. It belongs to its people; courageous, hardworking, family loving
    and profoundly religious.

    And even though Venezuelans have known nothing but socialism, we
    strongly want to live in an open society that respects private
    initiative and property, where no one begs the state for crumbs, but
    lives proudly from their work. Imagine what will happen when that lock
    is finally broken. You will see an explosion of energy, of creativity,
    of entrepreneurship. You will see the rebirth of a nation.

    But you will also see something more: the creation of the tech hub of
    the Americas, a country that will, at last, offer the conditions to
    build, with rule of law, respect for property, incentives for
    entrepreneurs, and an efficient, accountable government. And that
    national revival will not only transform us, it will inspire the world.

    JJ: You mention socialism. Believe it or not, there is a generation of >Americans today who are flirting with socialism. And when Venezuela is >raised as a warning, they say: That wasnAt real socialism. Are they wrong?

    MCM: Twenty-six years ago, Venezuelan youth fell in love with a
    socialist in Hugo Chbvez. When people pointed to Cuba as a warning, they >said, oVenezuela is not Cuba. And Cuba is not real socialism.o But here
    we areuworse than Cuba.

    Socialism always follows the same pattern. It elevates the state above
    the citizen, strips away your autonomy, your conscience, your dignity,
    your ability to choose. And it does so with a seductive lie. It whispers
    of equality, but the only equality it delivers is at the bottomuwhere >everyone is dragged down together. That has been the case in every
    nation, on every continent, in every culture where it has been tried.
    The result is always the same: a gigantic state that crushes the people >beneath it, and once it takes hold, is terribly hard to remove.

    Only free societiesuwhere the individual comes firstucan nurture both >liberty and the responsibility that sustains it. Because freedom without >responsibility decays, and responsibility without freedom is tyranny.
    But when merit becomes the path to rise, when effort and creativity are >rewarded, then every citizen is called to succeeduthe whole nation rises >together.

    That is what we want for Venezuela. And it is why I say to the American >people: Do not be seduced. Socialism is the sexiest path to losing your >freedom. Guard your freedom jealously. Defend it fiercely. Because
    freedom is not just an American promiseuit is the hope of the world.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 12:26:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:30:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:05:24 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 10:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar0a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count >>> on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal >>> allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.

    https://www.thefp.com/p/the-woman-who-took-on-a-dictator-and-won-a-nobel-peace-prize

    She is a great defender of v. She still does not say that she
    accepted the award "in honor of" himbo. I say she deserves the award
    and himbo does not.

    She is hiding out, in fear of persecution, refusing to leave her
    homeland, beating her drum. Good for her. Here's a sign people out
    here notice.

    I disagree with some of her politics, but that is not the point. I
    agree that intervention in foreign politics has not worked out as
    hoped when tried. It would be worth a shot to cut off maduro's cash
    flow. If that is possible in today's banking world. Evasion of
    control of money flow seems possible if you have enough money these
    days. Surely that would be true of maduro. But give it a try.

    Great efforts are now made to stop the flow of dirty money, but still
    it slips through.

    On Friday in Oslo, Venezuelan opposition leader Mar0a Corina Machado was >>awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Machado, who has been in hiding ever
    since last yearAs fraudulent elections, is widely regarded as the force >>keeping the countryAs opposition alive in the face of Nicolbs MaduroAs >>increasingly authoritarian regime. Machado, the committee said, is a >>obrave and committed champion of peace,o who okeeps the flame of
    democracy burning amid a growing darkness.o

    MachadoAs story is a political thriller come to life. A 58-year-old >>industrial engineer and former member of parliament, she spent two
    decades as the most relentless opponent of Hugo Chbvez and his
    successor, Nicolbs Maduro.

    Once derided by the regime as la dama de hierro (the Iron Lady), she was >>banned from running in the presidential election. She then named a proxy >>and led a grassroots campaign that united the countryAs shattered >>opposition, drawing millions of Venezuelans to the polls in July 2024
    and winning a landslide victory.

    But MaduroAs regime seized power anyway, and began accelerating its >>crackdown on dissent. Fourteen months later, Machado is in an
    undisclosed location and fears for her life. She still addresses her >>followers through encrypted video messages and clandestine radio >>transmissions, seeking to oust the undemocratic regime that has >>transformed Venezuela into a hub of international crime.

    And now, sheAs been elevated to the global stage. Following the Nobel >>announcement, Machado wrote on X: oThis recognition of the struggle of
    all Venezuelans is a boost to conclude our task: to conquer Freedom.o
    She continued: o[T]oday, more than ever, we count on President Trump,
    the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the >>democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve
    Freedom and democracy.o

    In recent months, Americans have watched their government edge closer to >>confrontation with Caracas. Under the banner of combating drug
    smuggling, the Trump administration has deployed at least eight ships >>carrying more than 4,000 personnel to the waters off Venezuela, and sent >>F-35 fighter jets to Puerto Rico. It has bombed boats accused of
    ferrying cocaine on behalf of the regimeua move that many say is >>unconstitutional. And it has doubled the reward for information leading
    to the arrest of Maduro to $50 million, calling him oone of the largest >>narco-traffickers in the world.o

    U.S. military officials are now drawing up options to target drug >>traffickers inside Venezuela, with strikes within the countryAs borders >>potentially beginning in a matter of weeks, according to four sources >>cited by NBC News. Is this just a counternarcotics operation, as the >>administration claims? For many Venezuelans, it is more than that; itAs
    a sign that the worldAs most powerful democracy is finally treating >>MaduroAs regime as what they believe it to beua criminal syndicate, not
    a sovereign government.

    Last week, before she had become a Nobel laureate, I spoke with Machado >>via Zoom. It was a rare, wide-ranging conversation about the present and >>future of her countryuand what she wants the Trump administration, and
    the American people, to do to support her opposition movementAs fight >>against Maduro. Below is a lightly edited transcript of our conversation.

    Jonathan Jakubowicz: Americans today are allergic to foreign wars. After >>the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, the very mention of ointerventiono >>sets off alarms across both the right and the left. Why should the U.S. >>government be involved in Venezuela?

    Mar0a Corina Machado: Venezuela is not Iraq or Afghanistan. ItAs three >>hours from the United States, with open access to the Caribbean, and it >>has been taken over by a narco-terrorist regime allied with the WestAs >>worst adversariesuRussia, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and powerful drug >>cartels. TheyAve turned our territory, institutions, and resources into
    an operational base for global crime: cocaine routes, gold trafficking, >>weapons smuggling, and human exploitation. Their goal is to weaken
    Western democracies, including the United States, from within.

    This is not a distant or ideological issueuitAs a matter of U.S.
    national security. Allowing a criminal state of this scale and proximity >>to consolidate power poses a direct and growing threat to the entire >>hemisphere.

    Now imagine the opposite: a free and democratic Venezuela. One that >>becomes a strategic ally in the fight against narco-terrorism, a
    reliable energy and trade partner, and a regional catalyst for >>stabilityuaccelerating the collapse of totalitarian regimes in Cuba and >>Nicaragua while blocking China, Russia, and Iran from expanding their >>reach in the Americas.

    So when the United States decides to act, it isnAt ointervening in >>Venezuela.o ItAs defending the hemisphereuits people, its borders, and
    its values. A free Venezuela doesnAt just make the region safer; it >>strengthens the very foundations of the free world.

    JJ: For anyone not familiar with the situation, this might sound like an >>exaggeration.

    MCM: They only need to listen to the Drug Enforcement Administration, >>which has documented that nearly a quarteru24 percentuof the worldAs >>cocaine passes through Venezuela. Or to the FBI, which has identified
    Tren de Aragua, a transnational terrorist group run directly by Nicolbs >>Maduro, as a major threat to the American people. These criminal >>structures now operate across the Americas, from Canada to Argentina.
    They actively undermine U.S. security. No other adversary of the United >>States has that kind of direct, on-foot access to American territory.

    JJ: But an isolationist might argue that it would be enough for America
    to secure its border. Why go overseas to fight for regime change?

    MCM: The isolationist argument for solely securing the U.S. border is >>fundamentally flawed because the threat from Venezuela is not a >>traditional overseas problem; itAs a criminal and security threat that
    has already projected itself across the hemisphere and directly
    threatens U.S. stability.

    The term oregime changeo is misleading. Control over Venezuela was
    already mandated by the people through the 2024 elections. The issue is >>that a Maduro-allied criminal organization, known as the Cartel de los >>Soles, is actively refusing to yield power and has violently seized >>control of a nation that was historically one of the United StatesA >>closest allies.

    Decades before countries like Spain, South Korea, or Portugal shed >>military dictatorships, Venezuela already had a stable democracy. No one >>has to teach Venezuelans how democratic institutions work. The current >>cartel seized power only through the gradual dismantling of those >>institutions and brutal repression, not due to a lack of democratic culture. >>
    Ignoring the problem allows this narco-terrorist hubuallied with Russia, >>Iran, and Hezbollahuto guarantee continuous, escalating border and >>security crises for the U.S. Fighting the criminal regime in Venezuela
    is the most effective form of forward defense, securing American >>interests, and stabilizing the hemisphere.

    We want democracyuone that guarantees the freedom to work, to create, to >>speak without fear. A nation where life is lived with dignity and guided >>by justice, solidarity, and the strength of family.

    JJ: But isnAt there a risk that it can turn into another quagmire?

    MCM: No, on the contrary! It will be a transition from current chaos to >>order and the rule of law. It will be an orderly transition for several >>compelling reasons.

    First, I daresay there is no other society in the hemisphere with
    greater cohesion than the Venezuelan one. The vast majority of
    Venezuelans want the same thing: to be able to live with dignity, with >>opportunities, and with our children back home. This is only possible >>after the Maduro regime is gone.

    Second, the rejection of Maduro within the Armed Forces and the police
    is immense. The Venezuelan Armed Forces were decisive in our electoral >>victory in July 2024. Every voting center was protected by them, and in >>all of them, the military collaborated so that our teams obtained
    original copies of the tally sheets that demonstrated our victory. Even
    in the precincts where the military themselves voted, we won by the same >>overwhelming margins as the rest of the nation. That tells you where
    their loyalties truly lie. They are with the Venezuelan peopleubut they >>live in constant fear, under surveillance, with many tortured or killed
    at the slightest suspicion of dissent.

    The reality is that repression is enforced not by the rank and file, but >>by a minuscule high command and a few thousand loyal subordinates. The >>vast majority of the Armed Forces and police are waiting for the moment >>when they can stand with us. They will be the first to help us pacify
    the country once Maduro is gone. We have already identified every >>irregular groupucartels, guerrillas, and paramilitariesuand we have a
    plan for a peaceful transition back to constitutional democracy.

    JJ: Would it be that easy?

    MCM: Not easy. Complex. And challenging. But the reason eight million >>Venezuelansunearly 30 percent of our populationuhave fled the country is >>not civil war or armed conflict. It is the direct result of catastrophic >>economic policies that left us poorer than Haiti, and the brutal >>repression of anyone who dares to hope for freedom and change.

    But unlike the nations where the U.S. has intervened in the Middle East, >>Venezuela has a cohesive populationuone that shares language, religion, >>race, and culture. A nation far closer to the United States than any
    other in South America. We play more baseball than soccer. You can buy a >>hot dog on every corner. Our people have never regarded the United
    States as an enemy. And you can see proof of this in the Venezuelans who >>are thriving in the United Statesufrom the former president of MIT to >>Silicon Valley founders, Emmy and Grammy winners, Oscar nominees, Major >>League Baseball superstars, and Triple Crownuwinning jockeys.

    We are a nation overflowing with talent. And for the first time in our >>history, almost all of us are politically and socially aligned. We want >>democracyuone that guarantees the freedom to work, to create, to speak >>without fear. A nation where life is lived with dignity and guided by >>justice, solidarity, and the strength of family.

    JJ: Why is everyone so politically aligned now?

    MCM: Because the reality is unbearable. Eighty-six percent live in >>poverty. More than 70 percent in critical poverty. Retirees survive on
    $1 a month. Children attend school an average of two days a weekuand
    grow up with the highest malnutrition rates in the hemisphere. ItAs not >>hard to see this is unsustainable.

    JJ: Are those numbers the reason for the mass migration?

    MCM: Yes. And the lack of future and freedom. But democracy in Venezuela >>will reverse that migration. You will see millions of Venezuelans >>returning home. When I spent months campaigning across the country, I >>heard the same cry everywhere: We want our children to come back home.

    One man stopped me once, his eyes filled with tears, and said: oYou are >>the last hope I have of ever seeing my children again.o I hugged him and >>told him the truth: that heuand people like himuwere my only hope of >>seeing my own children return. That moment became the heart of my entire >>campaign.

    We are a nation that loves family. Rich or poor, old and younguit
    doesnAt matter. We all want the same thing: for our children to come
    home, to stay home, and for those who have built lives abroad to be able >>to visit, to reunite, and to help rebuild our future.

    Our families have been torn apart not by war, but by hunger and lack of >>opportunity. And itAs not just our tragedy. Every country in the
    Americas feels the weight of our exodus.

    JJ: Families are important, but people need to eat. How would you entice >>them to come back?

    MCM: Business opportunities. Venezuela has the potential to become the >>energy hub of the Americas. We hold the largest oil reserves in the >>worldugreater than Saudi ArabiaAs. We have the eighth-largest reserves
    of natural gas, and the fifth-largest of gold. Great coasts and >>infrastructure. These are not abstract figures; they are the foundation
    of a transformation.

    Imagine a $1.7 trillion business opportunity in diverse sectors,
    igniting almost overnight, fueled by energy, minerals, and the talent of >>millions of Venezuelans returning home. That prosperity wonAt just be >>oursuit will ripple across the Americas. It will mean cheaper, more
    secure energy for the United States. It will mean stability for the >>region. For investors and entrepreneurs, Venezuela will be the hub of a >>new era of growth, innovation, and opportunity.

    JJ: ItAs easy to imagine what Venezuela could become. WhatAs harder to >>imagine is the spark that makes it possible. What does America need to
    do to help enable that change?

    MCM: WeAve asked the international community to cut off the cartelAs
    money supply. The dollars Maduro receives from drug trafficking, from >>black-market oil sales, from money launderinguthat flow needs to stop. >>Only then will he understand that time is up, and his best option is to >>accept terms for a negotiated exit. Right now, Maduro still tells his >>inner circle that the United States is bluffing. The only way to change >>his perception is to increase pressure and send a clear message that he >>has to go.

    There is an impressive international coalition focused on combating the >>Maduro regimeuled by the United States, and joined by the UK, France,
    the Netherlands, and many Caribbean and Latin American nations. It sends >>the right message. But as long as Maduro believes the world is bluffing, >>he wonAt accept it is time to go.

    JJ: WeAve just seen President Trump lay out a plan for Gaza that
    includes a form of amnesty for terrorists who surrender their weapons
    and leave to places where they wonAt be harmed. Would you offer
    something similar to members of MaduroAs Cartel de los Soles?

    MCM: We have always said we are open to serious, verifiable negotiations >>and to offering guarantees to those who facilitate a peaceful
    transition. I canAt go into operational details now, but the answer is >>yes: We are prepared to discuss arrangements that help end the violence >>and restore the rule of law. What those who today hold power must >>understand is that their position is far weaker than it was a year
    agouand it will continue to erode. Every day they delay makes any future >>negotiation more costly for them; waiting only narrows their options.

    JJ: Would you say the only thing stopping this transition is their >>inability to recognize that their time is up?

    MCM: I believe many of them already know their time is up. And thatAs >>precisely why weAre seeing what weAre seeing inside the regime.

    JJ: What are we seeing?

    MCM: Desperation. Fear. Betrayal. Paranoia. They spy on each other,
    inform on each other, and quietly prepare escape plans to save their own >>skinueven if it means giving up their closest allies. ThatAs why I say >>there is no going back. Yes, there are still radicals willing to
    sacrifice themselves before letting Venezuela be free. But they are
    fewer every day, increasingly isolated. And the firmer and more united
    the international community remains, the faster this process will move
    to its inevitable conclusion.

    JJ: What do you say to those who have given up hopeuand who think what >>youAre describing is impossible?

    MCM: We already did the impossible. We defeated them under their own >>rulesuwithout money, with more than a million volunteersuand we proved
    to the world that we won the election in a landslide. In response,
    Maduro declared war on Venezuelans. But this country does not belong to >>him. It belongs to its people; courageous, hardworking, family loving
    and profoundly religious.

    And even though Venezuelans have known nothing but socialism, we
    strongly want to live in an open society that respects private
    initiative and property, where no one begs the state for crumbs, but
    lives proudly from their work. Imagine what will happen when that lock
    is finally broken. You will see an explosion of energy, of creativity,
    of entrepreneurship. You will see the rebirth of a nation.

    But you will also see something more: the creation of the tech hub of
    the Americas, a country that will, at last, offer the conditions to
    build, with rule of law, respect for property, incentives for >>entrepreneurs, and an efficient, accountable government. And that
    national revival will not only transform us, it will inspire the world.

    JJ: You mention socialism. Believe it or not, there is a generation of >>Americans today who are flirting with socialism. And when Venezuela is >>raised as a warning, they say: That wasnAt real socialism. Are they wrong?

    MCM: Twenty-six years ago, Venezuelan youth fell in love with a
    socialist in Hugo Chbvez. When people pointed to Cuba as a warning, they >>said, oVenezuela is not Cuba. And Cuba is not real socialism.o But here
    we areuworse than Cuba.

    Socialism always follows the same pattern. It elevates the state above
    the citizen, strips away your autonomy, your conscience, your dignity, >>your ability to choose. And it does so with a seductive lie. It whispers >>of equality, but the only equality it delivers is at the bottomuwhere >>everyone is dragged down together. That has been the case in every
    nation, on every continent, in every culture where it has been tried.
    The result is always the same: a gigantic state that crushes the people >>beneath it, and once it takes hold, is terribly hard to remove.

    Only free societiesuwhere the individual comes firstucan nurture both >>liberty and the responsibility that sustains it. Because freedom without >>responsibility decays, and responsibility without freedom is tyranny.
    But when merit becomes the path to rise, when effort and creativity are >>rewarded, then every citizen is called to succeeduthe whole nation rises >>together.

    That is what we want for Venezuela. And it is why I say to the American >>people: Do not be seduced. Socialism is the sexiest path to losing your >>freedom. Guard your freedom jealously. Defend it fiercely. Because
    freedom is not just an American promiseuit is the hope of the world.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 10:34:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 10/11/2025 9:26 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:30:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:05:24 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 10:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor."

    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar|!a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count >>>> on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal >>>> allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.


    https://www.thefp.com/p/the-woman-who-took-on-a-dictator-and-won-a-nobel-peace-prize

    She is a great defender of v. She still does not say that she
    accepted the award "in honor of" himbo. I say she deserves the award
    and himbo does not.

    She is hiding out, in fear of persecution, refusing to leave her
    homeland, beating her drum. Good for her. Here's a sign people out
    here notice.

    How ironic!

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009,
    citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonproliferation and a "new climate"
    in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out
    to the Muslim world.

    You can't make this stuff up!
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Oct 11 14:04:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 10:34:06 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 9:26 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:30:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:05:24 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 10:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 10/11/2025 7:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    "Himbo said Machado told him she accepted the prize in his honor." >>>>>>
    If you don't get it, steal it.

    Mar0a Corina Machado
    @MariaCorinaYA

    "We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count >>>>> on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of
    Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal >>>>> allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

    I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to
    President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!"

    https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990


    What's genuinely creepy is the attempt to deny her statement.


    https://www.thefp.com/p/the-woman-who-took-on-a-dictator-and-won-a-nobel-peace-prize

    She is a great defender of v. She still does not say that she
    accepted the award "in honor of" himbo. I say she deserves the award
    and himbo does not.

    She is hiding out, in fear of persecution, refusing to leave her
    homeland, beating her drum. Good for her. Here's a sign people out
    here notice.

    How ironic!

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009,
    citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonproliferation and a "new climate"
    in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out
    to the Muslim world.

    People were a lot more scared of proliferation in those days, and
    troubled about relations with the muslim world. But I agree. I am
    far more impressed with maria than with any of the 4 presidents who
    received the nobel, except maybe carter who received it 21 years after
    he left office for his efforts in conflict resolution around the
    world, which I think is significant.

    It might be that worthiness appears more worthy at the time of the
    award than decades later after the then issues involved have been
    replaced by other current issues.

    You can't make this stuff up!
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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