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so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of computing
the semantics of a program into the realm of both theoretical analysis
and real world computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test
cases ...
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test
cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can refer to my
post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah for the
software and programming details. Let me know how it's going.
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test
cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test
cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities
at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your barkers.
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test
cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities
at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around
problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the
problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of
both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just
test cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or
Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's
going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good
work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy
says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy
totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize
you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these
are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter...
called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work! >>
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities
at you from across the room.a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>> called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of
meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the
problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just
test cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or
Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's >>>>> going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good
work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy
says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy
totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize
you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these
are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>> called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work! >>>
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>> at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on theThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of
meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the
problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>> test cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or
Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how
it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy
says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy
totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize
you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and
these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA >>>
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us
anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>> called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>> at you from across the room.a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
k, how bout you sit there quietly for an extended period of time eh?
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where theThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how
halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the >>>>>>>> matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/
around problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing >>>>>>>> the problem of computing the semantics of a program into the
realm of both theoretical analysis and real world computability, >>>>>>>> and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>> test cases ...
it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy
says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy
totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy
shouts obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you
realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival >>>>> and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA >>>>
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us
anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:25:41 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.-a>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>> at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
k, how bout you sit there quietly for an extended period of time eh?
Sorry, we are not intimate enough for that.
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on theThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of
meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the
problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>> test cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how
it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy
says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy
totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>> obscenities at you from across the room. This is when you realize
you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and
these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA >>>>
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us
anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>> called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work! >>>
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>> at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the haltingThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>> called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write
descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work! >>>
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>> at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
--
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:25:41 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.-a>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>> at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
k, how bout you sit there quietly for an extended period of time eh?
Sorry, we are not intimate enough for that.
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the>
matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>> test cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>> it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy
totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>>> obscenities at you from across the room. This is when you realize >>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and
these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA >>>>>
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us
anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
On 10/12/2025 1:37 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the-a >
matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and >>>>>>>>>> agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>> test cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>>> it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy >>>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>>>> obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize >>>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and
these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
Imagine sitting around telling life stories and yours begins and ends on
one line!
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>> at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
On 10/12/2025 1:37 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>Imagine sitting around telling life stories and yours begins and ends on
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on theThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>>> it's going.
matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and >>>>>>>>>> agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>> test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy >>>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>>>> obscenities at you from across the room. This is when you realize >>>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and
these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
one line!
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:43:00rC>PM EDT, "dart200" <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>> at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
Noah isn't an emoji kind of guy.
--
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>> called the halting problem.-a-a>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
On 10/12/25 1:47 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:37 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com>Imagine sitting around telling life stories and yours begins and ends
wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>>> halting-a >
paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the >>>>>>>>>>> matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>>> around
problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the >>>>>>>>>>> realm of
both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and >>>>>>>>>>> agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>>> test cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>>>> it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy >>>>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy >>>>>>>> shouts
obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize >>>>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and >>>>>>>> these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
on one line!
i'm not really into monologueing anyways
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where theThe first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you >>>>>>>> can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with
halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/
around problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing >>>>>>>>> the problem of computing the semantics of a program into the >>>>>>>>> realm of both theoretical analysis and real world
computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to
write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. Let me >>>>>>>> know how it's going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy >>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy
shouts obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you >>>>>> realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a
carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA >>>>>
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:47:37rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:37 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:Imagine sitting around telling life stories and yours begins and ends on
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the >>>>>>>>>>> matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>>>> it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and >>>>>>>>>>> agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>>> test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy >>>>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>>>>> obscenities at you from across the room. This is when you realize >>>>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and >>>>>>>> these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
one line!
Ahhhh. but if it's a good one....Anyway, isn't that what life is?
On 10/12/2025 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.-a-a>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around
problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>> test
cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>> Noah
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's
going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy
says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
It's not important what news reader you're using.
What's important is the text editor you use for creating the text
message. For more professional results, you should consider a good text editor like Edit Pad. That way, your messages will be more effective and useful.
No serious Usenet informant keys directly into a news reader app on
their smart phone!
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you >>>>>>>>> can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with >>>>>>>>> Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. Let me >>>>>>>>> know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one
guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One >>>>>>> guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy >>>>>>> shouts obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you >>>>>>> realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a
carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for
us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you >>>>>>>>> can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with >>>>>>>>> Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. Let me >>>>>>>>> know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one
guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One >>>>>>> guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy >>>>>>> shouts obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you >>>>>>> realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a
carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for
us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
On 10/12/25 2:17 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many >>>>>>>> lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a >>>>>>>>>> fast desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, >>>>>>>>>> you can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check >>>>>>>>>> with Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. >>>>>>>>>> Let me know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one >>>>>>>> guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. >>>>>>>> One guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there.
Another guy shouts obscenities at you from across the room.
This is when you realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, >>>>>>>> you're at a carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for >>>>>>> us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
y would i want a bargain rate clown?
On 10/12/25 2:17 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many >>>>>>>> lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a >>>>>>>>>> fast desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, >>>>>>>>>> you can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check >>>>>>>>>> with Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. >>>>>>>>>> Let me know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one >>>>>>>> guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. >>>>>>>> One guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there.
Another guy shouts obscenities at you from across the room.
This is when you realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, >>>>>>>> you're at a carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for >>>>>>> us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
y would i want a bargain rate clown?
On 10/12/25 2:15 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:It's not important what news reader you're using.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.-a-a>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>> meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>> problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>> test
cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>> Noah
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's >>>>>>>> going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>> says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally >>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not >>>>>> sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
What's important is the text editor you use for creating the text
message. For more professional results, you should consider a good
text editor like Edit Pad. That way, your messages will be more
effective and useful.
No serious Usenet informant keys directly into a news reader app on
their smart phone!
no way is anyone manually crafting stacks of quoted replies
On 10/12/2025 2:19 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 2:15 PM, Dude wrote:You must be new around here.
On 10/12/2025 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:It's not important what news reader you're using.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>> problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both >>>>>>>>>> theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>> test
cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>> Noah
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's >>>>>>>>> going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>> says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not >>>>>>> sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
What's important is the text editor you use for creating the text
message. For more professional results, you should consider a good
text editor like Edit Pad. That way, your messages will be more
effective and useful.
No serious Usenet informant keys directly into a news reader app on
their smart phone!
no way is anyone manually crafting stacks of quoted replies
Every message I've posted on Usenet is on my computer where I composed
it using Edit Pad. No serious news informant uses an iPhone app to
discuss anything in a sophisticated discussion group like this.
This is supposed to be an informative discussion, not an idle chit chat--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
about yoga poses or Buddhas.
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:43:00?PM EDT, "dart200" ><user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>> at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
Noah isn't an emoji kind of guy.
--
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
On 10/12/25 1:51 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:43:00?PM EDT, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>>> at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
Noah isn't an emoji kind of guy.
just fyi noah, my sig doesn't end with a question mark ???
???? ? ??????--
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other >>>> for extended periods of time.
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways >>>>
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 20:51:31 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:43:00?PM EDT, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>>> cases ...
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>>> at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
Noah isn't an emoji kind of guy.
True. I have the latest version of an old time newsreader which could
do emoji's if I wanted, but I don't want. Emoji's are like
exclamation points. Writers don't use them. You can put all the
emphasis in the wording that you need. Same thing with emoji's.
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other >>>> for extended periods of time.
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways >>>>
On 10/12/2025 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.a One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
It's not important what news reader you're using.
What's important is the text editor you use for creating the text
message. For more professional results, you should consider a good text >editor like Edit Pad. That way, your messages will be more effective and >useful.
No serious Usenet informant keys directly into a news reader app on
their smart phone!
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 20:51:31 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:43:00?PM EDT, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities >>>>>> at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
Noah isn't an emoji kind of guy.
True. I have the latest version of an old time newsreader which could
do emoji's if I wanted, but I don't want. Emoji's are like
exclamation points. Writers don't use them. You can put all the
emphasis in the wording that you need. Same thing with emoji's.
--Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other >>>> for extended periods of time.
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways >>>>
On 10/12/2025 2:19 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 2:15 PM, Dude wrote:You must be new around here.
On 10/12/2025 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:It's not important what news reader you're using.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>> Noah
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta-
computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>> problems
specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both >>>>>>>>>> theoretical analysis and real world computability, and
agreement on
the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>> test
cases ...
for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's >>>>>>>>> going.
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>> says
nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.a One guy totally >>>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.a This is when you realize you're not >>>>>>> sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
What's important is the text editor you use for creating the text
message. For more professional results, you should consider a good
text editor like Edit Pad. That way, your messages will be more
effective and useful.
No serious Usenet informant keys directly into a news reader app on
their smart phone!
no way is anyone manually crafting stacks of quoted replies
Every message I've posted on Usenet is on my computer where I composed
it using Edit Pad. No serious news informant uses an iPhone app to
discuss anything in a sophisticated discussion group like this.
This is supposed to be an informative discussion, not an idle chit chat >about yoga poses or Buddhas.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:55:54 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:51 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:43:00?PM EDT, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>>>> called the halting problem.>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both >>>>>>>>>> theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy totally >>>>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts obscenities
at you from across the room. This is when you realize you're not >>>>>>> sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your >>>>>>> barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
lol, ur newreader doesn't support emoji?
have you considered something from this century maybe?
Noah isn't an emoji kind of guy.
just fyi noah, my sig doesn't end with a question mark ???
And how did you know that my newsreader doesn't know what to do with
that? But that's ok. I *also* don't ~need~ to know |what| to do with
that.
--
???? ? ??????
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other >>>>> for extended periods of time.
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways >>>>>
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:47:37rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:37 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:Imagine sitting around telling life stories and yours begins and ends on
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the >>>>>>>>>>> matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>>>> it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and >>>>>>>>>>> agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>>> test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy >>>>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>>>>> obscenities at you from across the room. This is when you realize >>>>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and >>>>>>>> these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
one line!
Ahhhh. but if it's a good one....Anyway, isn't that what life is?
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you >>>>>>>>> can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with >>>>>>>>> Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. Let me >>>>>>>>> know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one
guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One >>>>>>> guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy >>>>>>> shouts obscenities at you from across the room.-a This is when you >>>>>>> realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a
carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden
under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for
us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
On 10/12/2025 2:17 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many >>>>>>>> lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a >>>>>>>>>> fast desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, >>>>>>>>>> you can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check >>>>>>>>>> with Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. >>>>>>>>>> Let me know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one >>>>>>>> guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. >>>>>>>> One guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there.
Another guy shouts obscenities at you from across the room.
This is when you realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, >>>>>>>> you're at a carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for >>>>>>> us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
Especially if you have young, impressionable children nearby...
https://i.postimg.cc/2S2jJQGH/Julian-AI-Portrait.jpg
On 10/12/2025 2:17 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many >>>>>>>> lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a >>>>>>>>>> fast desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, >>>>>>>>>> you can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check >>>>>>>>>> with Creon or Noah for the software and programming details. >>>>>>>>>> Let me know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ >>>>>>>>>>> around problems specifically like the halting paradox,
bringing the problem of computing the semantics of a program >>>>>>>>>>> into the realm of both theoretical analysis and real world >>>>>>>>>>> computability, and agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one >>>>>>>> guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. >>>>>>>> One guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there.
Another guy shouts obscenities at you from across the room.
This is when you realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, >>>>>>>> you're at a carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for >>>>>>> us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
Especially if you have young, impressionable children nearby...
https://i.postimg.cc/2S2jJQGH/Julian-AI-Portrait.jpg
On 10/12/2025 1:55 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:47:37rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:37 PM, Tara wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 4:27:30rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:Imagine sitting around telling life stories and yours begins and ends on >>> one line!
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many >>>>>>>>> lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>>
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the >>>>>>>>>>>> matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast >>>>>>>>>>> desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or >>>>>>>>>>> Noah for the software and programming details. Let me know how >>>>>>>>>>> it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of >>>>>>>>>>>> meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around >>>>>>>>>>>> problems specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the >>>>>>>>>>>> problem of computing the semantics of a program into the realm of >>>>>>>>>>>> both theoretical analysis and real world computability, and >>>>>>>>>>>> agreement on the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just >>>>>>>>>>>> test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet. >>>>>>>>> Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy >>>>>>>>> says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. One guy >>>>>>>>> totally ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts >>>>>>>>> obscenities at you from across the room. This is when you realize >>>>>>>>> you're not sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and >>>>>>>>> these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us >>>>>>>> anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
Efya
Ahhhh. but if it's a good one....Anyway, isn't that what life is?
Roses are azure,
Violets are pink,
Proof once again it's
All not what you think.
A lifetime's an eddy,
A swirl down the sink,
A quick trip around,
And it's gone in a blink!
- Ned
On 12/10/2025 23:47, Ned Ludd wrote:
On 10/12/2025 2:17 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:35, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:27 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:24, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:21 PM, Julian wrote:
On 12/10/2025 21:12, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many >>>>>>>>> lurkers are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words. >>>>>>>>>
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the >>>>>>>>>>>> halting paradox prevents us from having a general decider on >>>>>>>>>>>> the matter... called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a >>>>>>>>>>> fast desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the >>>>>>>>>>> build, you can refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. >>>>>>>>>>> Check with Creon or Noah for the software and programming >>>>>>>>>>> details. Let me know how it's going.
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory >>>>>>>>>>>> of meta- computing that can allow us to /effectively
compute/ around problems specifically like the halting >>>>>>>>>>>> paradox, bringing the problem of computing the semantics of >>>>>>>>>>>> a program into the realm of both theoretical analysis and >>>>>>>>>>>> real world computability, and agreement on the matter. >>>>>>>>>>>>
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>> write descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, >>>>>>>>>>>> not just test cases ...
i'll take that as a big fat nope
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the
internet. Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick. >>>>>>>>>
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one >>>>>>>>> guy says nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor. >>>>>>>>> One guy totally ignores you, like you weren't even there.
Another guy shouts obscenities at you from across the room. >>>>>>>>> This is when you realize you're not sitting at a kitchen table, >>>>>>>>> you're at a carnival and these are your barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special EfyAEfyAEfyA
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden >>>>>>>> under layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for >>>>>>>> us anyways
Not being among your "us," your "*real* truth" suits me.
the worst clowns are the ones in deep denial...
You made that up.
will you quit clowning around already eh???
I can be rented.
Especially if you have young, impressionable children nearby...
https://i.postimg.cc/2S2jJQGH/Julian-AI-Portrait.jpg
Cash only. I like children but I couldn't eat a whole one.
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>> called the halting problem.-a-a>
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of
computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>> cases ...
The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can
refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.-a One guy totally
ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.-a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under
layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
k, how bout you sit there quietly for an extended period of time eh?
On 10/12/2025 4:25 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/12/25 1:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:12:14 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/12/25 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:02 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/11/25 10:40 AM, Dude wrote:Some say that's way too many! There's no way to know how many lurkers >>>>> are out there, gathering up and data mining for key words.
On 10/10/2025 9:22 PM, dart200 wrote:i'll take that as a big fat nope
so there's the thing in the theory of computing where the halting >>>>>>>> paradox prevents us from having a general decider on the matter... >>>>>>>> called the halting problem.The first thing to do would be to get a hold of or build a fast
i'm tryin to fix that really, by building a general theory of meta- >>>>>>>> computing that can allow us to /effectively compute/ around problems >>>>>>>> specifically like the halting paradox, bringing the problem of >>>>>>>> computing the semantics of a program into the realm of both
theoretical analysis and real world computability, and agreement on >>>>>>>> the matter.
like instead of testing a programming i want to be able to write >>>>>>>> descriptive proofs on the matter of what my code does, not just test >>>>>>>> cases ...
desktop computer. And a desk to put it on. For the build, you can >>>>>>> refer to my post entitled How to build a PC. Check with Creon or Noah >>>>>>> for the software and programming details. Let me know how it's going. >>>>>>
there's only like half a dozen people really here, eh?
You kind of have to be a genius to find us here on the internet.
Good work!
Keep in mind, this isn't a conversation with normal people, Nick.
Imagine sitting around a kitchen table with strangers, and one guy says >>>>> nothing for days after once piping up with a rumor.a One guy totally >>>>> ignores you, like you weren't even there. Another guy shouts
obscenities
at you from across the room.a This is when you realize you're not
sitting at a kitchen table, you're at a carnival and these are your
barkers.
yeah yeah yeah post truthers always act like they're special ???
the *real* truth is the whole world's a damn carnival act hidden under >>>> layers of wildly unsustainable contrivialities no good for us anyways
Except those of us who are comfortable sitting quietly with each other
for extended periods of time.
k, how bout you sit there quietly for an extended period of time eh?
The Mission Impossible theme plays.
