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Two years after the Oct. 7 attacks, the road between us is more volatile than >ever
On Oct. 7, 2023, two years ago u two years u Noam Tibon received a string of >alarming texts from his son. oThey are shooting at us,o one said. Another: >oThere are terrorists in the neighbourhood. I think also in the house.o
Mr. Tibon, a retired Israeli army major-general, told his son: oStay quiet.o
His son was texting from the safe room at his home on a kibbutz near Gaza >where he, his daughters, then aged one and three, and his wife waited silently >in complete darkness.
Mr. Tibon and his wife Gali Mir-Tibon got into their car in Tel Aviv and drove >to rescue them. oThis is the instinct of a father. Of a grandfather. My family >is under danger.o
Mr. Tibon speaks these words in the Canadian documentary The Road Between Us: >The Ultimate Rescue. The film had its world premiere at the Toronto >International Film Festival after being invited, then disinvited (after >filmmaker Barry Avrich was asked, he says, to withdraw u which he refused to >do), then reinvited after outcry. As a sold-out crowd shuffled through >military-grade security outside Roy Thomson Hall, they were greeted by shouts >of oshameo by protesters.
Protesting a film isnAt terrible, but it is telling. What is shameful about >grandparents rescuing their family? None of the people protesting the film >could have seen it. What was their beef, exactly? That Israelis who were >massacred on Oct. 7, 2023, or miraculously survived, were shown to be people >worthy of sympathy u or regard?
Two years after these bloody attacks, two years into the catastrophic war that >followed, with its tens of thousands of victims, we are at a moment of hope, >finally. But this anniversary will forever be seared into history. The horrors >of that day will never be forgotten.
The film, which won the PeopleAs Choice Award at TIFF, includes footage of >that massacre u blood-soaked floors in homes with bunk beds and baby-bouncer >chairs as witness. People being shot point blank. oBrothers, we donAt want >hostages, weAve got a lot already,o someone says in Arabic. oKill.o
Protest is a pillar of any democratic society. Bring it on. But anger over >IsraelAs war in Gaza has turned into something else, something ugly u and >deadly. It has created an atmosphere where someone might shoot at innocent >people outside a Jewish museum in Washington and yell oFree Palestineo; throw >flames while yelling oFree Palestineo at a peaceful demonstration in Colorado >for the hostages, ultimately killing an 82-year-old woman; or ram a car and >begin a stabbing spree outside a synagogue in Manchester on the holiest day of >the Jewish calendar.
During Yom Kippur services in Vancouver that same day, with police standing >guard, one line from the prayer book really resonated with a rattled >congregation. It sought GodAs prayers ofor the sake of those killed because >they were Jews.o
Antisemitism has become rampant in Canada, statistics show. One example: >graffiti on a Victoria synagogue this summer admonished ochild-killing Jew >monsters.o
IsraelAs war on Gaza is catastrophic. But targeting Jews u who are not >responsible u in Canada, where we have a right to live free from >discrimination, like every other minority? That has been shattering.
The art world has not been immune. I asked Mr. Tibon, Mr. Avrich and producer >Mark Selby about navigating the TIFF roller coaster, only to arrive at the >theatre to protesters yelling oshame.o
oI believe in peaceful protest, no matter what your side is here,o said Mr. >Avrich. oBut really what is the point protesting art? If you donAt want to go, >donAt go. DonAt buy a ticket.o
Mr. Selby said it seems ridiculous to protest artists. oThatAs not going to >bring about world peace.o
All three were grateful for TIFF chief executive Cameron BaileyAs apology and >overwhelmed with the warm reception, including standing ovations before and >after the film. oIt spread into my heart,o said Mr. Tibon. oAnd I felt, you >know, this is a victory for the truth.o
A nod to the destruction of Gaza toward the end of the film (which is now in >theatres) has not satisfied many critics, who note the lack of crucial >context. Mr. Avrich says this isnAt a political film. ItAs about a manAs >effort to save his family.
Perhaps we are heading, finally, after the two longest years, toward peace. >Maybe, finally, this war will end. The killing in Gaza will stop. The hostages >can come home. Families can bury their loved ones.
We shall see what the next few days bring. The next few years. So many deaths, >so much destruction, so much damage, beyond the physical. These harms will >last generations. Today, if you are fortunate enough to be able to, hug your >loved ones close.
The killing in Gaza will stop.
So many deaths, so much destruction, so much damage, beyond the physical. >These harms will last generations.
Marsha Lederman- G&M Oct.7/25--
The art world has not been immune. I asked Mr. Tibon, Mr. Avrich and producer Mark Selby about navigating the TIFF roller coaster, only to arrive at the theatre to protesters yelling rCLshame.rCYIMO it's not about world peace. The point is intimidation, to stop
rCLI believe in peaceful protest, no matter what your side is here,rCY said Mr.
Avrich. rCLBut really what is the point protesting art? If you donrCOt want to go,
donrCOt go. DonrCOt buy a ticket.rCY
Mr. Selby said it seems ridiculous to protest artists. rCLThatrCOs not going to
bring about world peace.rCY
Two years after the Oct. 7 attacks, the road between us is more volatile than ever
On Oct. 7, 2023, two years ago rCo two years rCo Noam Tibon received a string of
alarming texts from his son. rCLThey are shooting at us,rCY one said. Another:
rCLThere are terrorists in the neighbourhood. I think also in the house.rCY
Mr. Tibon, a retired Israeli army major-general, told his son: rCLStay quiet.rCY
GazaHis son was texting from the safe room at his home on a kibbutz near
where he, his daughters, then aged one and three, and his wife waited silently
in complete darkness.
Mr. Tibon and his wife Gali Mir-Tibon got into their car in Tel Aviv and drove
to rescue them. rCLThis is the instinct of a father. Of a grandfather. My family
is under danger.rCY
Mr. Tibon speaks these words in the Canadian documentary The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue. The film had its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival after being invited, then disinvited (after filmmaker Barry Avrich was asked, he says, to withdraw rCo which he refused to
do), then reinvited after outcry. As a sold-out crowd shuffled through military-grade security outside Roy Thomson Hall, they were greeted by shouts of rCLshamerCY by protesters.
Protesting a film isnrCOt terrible, but it is telling. What is shameful about grandparents rescuing their family? None of the people protesting the film could have seen it. What was their beef, exactly? That Israelis who were massacred on Oct. 7, 2023, or miraculously survived, were shown to be people worthy of sympathy rCo or regard?
Two years after these bloody attacks, two years into the catastrophic war that
followed, with its tens of thousands of victims, we are at a moment of hope, finally. But this anniversary will forever be seared into history. The horrors
of that day will never be forgotten.
The film, which won the PeoplerCOs Choice Award at TIFF, includes footage of that massacre rCo blood-soaked floors in homes with bunk beds and baby-bouncer
chairs as witness. People being shot point blank. rCLBrothers, we donrCOt want
hostages, werCOve got a lot already,rCY someone says in Arabic. rCLKill.rCY
Protest is a pillar of any democratic society. Bring it on. But anger over IsraelrCOs war in Gaza has turned into something else, something ugly rCo and deadly. It has created an atmosphere where someone might shoot at innocent people outside a Jewish museum in Washington and yell rCLFree PalestinerCY; throw
flames while yelling rCLFree PalestinerCY at a peaceful demonstration in Colorado
for the hostages, ultimately killing an 82-year-old woman; or ram a car and begin a stabbing spree outside a synagogue in Manchester on the holiest day of
the Jewish calendar.
During Yom Kippur services in Vancouver that same day, with police standing guard, one line from the prayer book really resonated with a rattled congregation. It sought GodrCOs prayers rCLfor the sake of those killed because
they were Jews.rCY
Antisemitism has become rampant in Canada, statistics show. One example: graffiti on a Victoria synagogue this summer admonished rCLchild-killing Jew monsters.rCY
IsraelrCOs war on Gaza is catastrophic. But targeting Jews rCo who are not responsible rCo in Canada, where we have a right to live free from discrimination, like every other minority? That has been shattering.
The art world has not been immune. I asked Mr. Tibon, Mr. Avrich and producer Mark Selby about navigating the TIFF roller coaster, only to arrive at the theatre to protesters yelling rCLshame.rCY
rCLI believe in peaceful protest, no matter what your side is here,rCY said Mr.
Avrich. rCLBut really what is the point protesting art? If you donrCOt want to go,
donrCOt go. DonrCOt buy a ticket.rCY
Mr. Selby said it seems ridiculous to protest artists. rCLThatrCOs not going to
bring about world peace.rCY
All three were grateful for TIFF chief executive Cameron BaileyrCOs apology and
overwhelmed with the warm reception, including standing ovations before and after the film. rCLIt spread into my heart,rCY said Mr. Tibon. rCLAnd I felt, you
know, this is a victory for the truth.rCY
A nod to the destruction of Gaza toward the end of the film (which is now in theatres) has not satisfied many critics, who note the lack of crucial context. Mr. Avrich says this isnrCOt a political film. ItrCOs about a manrCOs
effort to save his family.
Perhaps we are heading, finally, after the two longest years, toward peace. Maybe, finally, this war will end. The killing in Gaza will stop. The hostages
can come home. Families can bury their loved ones.
We shall see what the next few days bring. The next few years. So many deaths,
so much destruction, so much damage, beyond the physical. These harms will last generations. Today, if you are fortunate enough to be able to, hug your loved ones close.
Marsha Lederman- G&M Oct.7/25
On 10/7/2025 7:20 AM, Tara wrote:
Two years after the Oct. 7 attacks, the road between us is more volatile thanThis is when you thank God you're armed.
ever
On Oct. 7, 2023, two years ago u two years u Noam Tibon received a string of >> alarming texts from his son. oThey are shooting at us,o one said. Another: >> oThere are terrorists in the neighbourhood. I think also in the house.o
Mr. Tibon, a retired Israeli army major-general, told his son: oStay quiet.o >>
GazaHis son was texting from the safe room at his home on a kibbutz near
where he, his daughters, then aged one and three, and his wife waited silently
in complete darkness.
Mr. Tibon and his wife Gali Mir-Tibon got into their car in Tel Aviv and drove
to rescue them. oThis is the instinct of a father. Of a grandfather. My family
is under danger.o
Mr. Tibon speaks these words in the Canadian documentary The Road Between Us:
The Ultimate Rescue. The film had its world premiere at the Toronto
International Film Festival after being invited, then disinvited (after
filmmaker Barry Avrich was asked, he says, to withdraw u which he refused to >> do), then reinvited after outcry. As a sold-out crowd shuffled through
military-grade security outside Roy Thomson Hall, they were greeted by shouts
of oshameo by protesters.
Protesting a film isnAt terrible, but it is telling. What is shameful about >> grandparents rescuing their family? None of the people protesting the film >> could have seen it. What was their beef, exactly? That Israelis who were
massacred on Oct. 7, 2023, or miraculously survived, were shown to be people >> worthy of sympathy u or regard?
Two years after these bloody attacks, two years into the catastrophic war that
followed, with its tens of thousands of victims, we are at a moment of hope, >> finally. But this anniversary will forever be seared into history. The horrors
of that day will never be forgotten.
The film, which won the PeopleAs Choice Award at TIFF, includes footage of >> that massacre u blood-soaked floors in homes with bunk beds and baby-bouncer >> chairs as witness. People being shot point blank. oBrothers, we donAt want >> hostages, weAve got a lot already,o someone says in Arabic. oKill.o
Protest is a pillar of any democratic society. Bring it on. But anger over >> IsraelAs war in Gaza has turned into something else, something ugly u and
deadly. It has created an atmosphere where someone might shoot at innocent >> people outside a Jewish museum in Washington and yell oFree Palestineo; throw
flames while yelling oFree Palestineo at a peaceful demonstration in Colorado
for the hostages, ultimately killing an 82-year-old woman; or ram a car and >> begin a stabbing spree outside a synagogue in Manchester on the holiest day of
the Jewish calendar.
During Yom Kippur services in Vancouver that same day, with police standing >> guard, one line from the prayer book really resonated with a rattled
congregation. It sought GodAs prayers ofor the sake of those killed because >> they were Jews.o
Antisemitism has become rampant in Canada, statistics show. One example:
graffiti on a Victoria synagogue this summer admonished ochild-killing Jew >> monsters.o
IsraelAs war on Gaza is catastrophic. But targeting Jews u who are not
responsible u in Canada, where we have a right to live free from
discrimination, like every other minority? That has been shattering.
The art world has not been immune. I asked Mr. Tibon, Mr. Avrich and producer
Mark Selby about navigating the TIFF roller coaster, only to arrive at the >> theatre to protesters yelling oshame.o
oI believe in peaceful protest, no matter what your side is here,o said Mr. >> Avrich. oBut really what is the point protesting art? If you donAt want to go,
donAt go. DonAt buy a ticket.o
Mr. Selby said it seems ridiculous to protest artists. oThatAs not going to >> bring about world peace.o
All three were grateful for TIFF chief executive Cameron BaileyAs apology and
overwhelmed with the warm reception, including standing ovations before and >> after the film. oIt spread into my heart,o said Mr. Tibon. oAnd I felt, you >> know, this is a victory for the truth.o
A nod to the destruction of Gaza toward the end of the film (which is now in >> theatres) has not satisfied many critics, who note the lack of crucial
context. Mr. Avrich says this isnAt a political film. ItAs about a manAs
effort to save his family.
Perhaps we are heading, finally, after the two longest years, toward peace. >> Maybe, finally, this war will end. The killing in Gaza will stop. The hostages
can come home. Families can bury their loved ones.
We shall see what the next few days bring. The next few years. So many deaths,
so much destruction, so much damage, beyond the physical. These harms will >> last generations. Today, if you are fortunate enough to be able to, hug your >> loved ones close.
Marsha Lederman- G&M Oct.7/25
Antisemitism has become rampant not only in Canada, but in the United >Kingdom, Europe, Russia, Africa, Asia and the entire Middle East.
Nobody seems to know why.
On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 10:06:56 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/7/2025 7:20 AM, Tara wrote:
Two years after the Oct. 7 attacks, the road between us is more volatile thanThis is when you thank God you're armed.
ever
On Oct. 7, 2023, two years ago rCo two years rCo Noam Tibon received a string of
alarming texts from his son. rCLThey are shooting at us,rCY one said. Another:
rCLThere are terrorists in the neighbourhood. I think also in the house.rCY >>>
Mr. Tibon, a retired Israeli army major-general, told his son: rCLStay quiet.rCY
GazaHis son was texting from the safe room at his home on a kibbutz near
where he, his daughters, then aged one and three, and his wife waited silentlyAntisemitism has become rampant not only in Canada, but in the United
in complete darkness.
Mr. Tibon and his wife Gali Mir-Tibon got into their car in Tel Aviv and drove
to rescue them. rCLThis is the instinct of a father. Of a grandfather. My family
is under danger.rCY
Mr. Tibon speaks these words in the Canadian documentary The Road Between Us:
The Ultimate Rescue. The film had its world premiere at the Toronto
International Film Festival after being invited, then disinvited (after
filmmaker Barry Avrich was asked, he says, to withdraw rCo which he refused to
do), then reinvited after outcry. As a sold-out crowd shuffled through
military-grade security outside Roy Thomson Hall, they were greeted by shouts
of rCLshamerCY by protesters.
Protesting a film isnrCOt terrible, but it is telling. What is shameful about
grandparents rescuing their family? None of the people protesting the film >>> could have seen it. What was their beef, exactly? That Israelis who were >>> massacred on Oct. 7, 2023, or miraculously survived, were shown to be people
worthy of sympathy rCo or regard?
Two years after these bloody attacks, two years into the catastrophic war that
followed, with its tens of thousands of victims, we are at a moment of hope,
finally. But this anniversary will forever be seared into history. The horrors
of that day will never be forgotten.
The film, which won the PeoplerCOs Choice Award at TIFF, includes footage of
that massacre rCo blood-soaked floors in homes with bunk beds and baby-bouncer
chairs as witness. People being shot point blank. rCLBrothers, we donrCOt want
hostages, werCOve got a lot already,rCY someone says in Arabic. rCLKill.rCY >>>
Protest is a pillar of any democratic society. Bring it on. But anger over >>> IsraelrCOs war in Gaza has turned into something else, something ugly rCo and
deadly. It has created an atmosphere where someone might shoot at innocent >>> people outside a Jewish museum in Washington and yell rCLFree PalestinerCY; throw
flames while yelling rCLFree PalestinerCY at a peaceful demonstration in Colorado
for the hostages, ultimately killing an 82-year-old woman; or ram a car and >>> begin a stabbing spree outside a synagogue in Manchester on the holiest day of
the Jewish calendar.
During Yom Kippur services in Vancouver that same day, with police standing >>> guard, one line from the prayer book really resonated with a rattled
congregation. It sought GodrCOs prayers rCLfor the sake of those killed because
they were Jews.rCY
Antisemitism has become rampant in Canada, statistics show. One example: >>> graffiti on a Victoria synagogue this summer admonished rCLchild-killing Jew
monsters.rCY
IsraelrCOs war on Gaza is catastrophic. But targeting Jews rCo who are not >>> responsible rCo in Canada, where we have a right to live free from
discrimination, like every other minority? That has been shattering.
The art world has not been immune. I asked Mr. Tibon, Mr. Avrich and producer
Mark Selby about navigating the TIFF roller coaster, only to arrive at the >>> theatre to protesters yelling rCLshame.rCY
rCLI believe in peaceful protest, no matter what your side is here,rCY said Mr.
Avrich. rCLBut really what is the point protesting art? If you donrCOt want to go,
donrCOt go. DonrCOt buy a ticket.rCY
Mr. Selby said it seems ridiculous to protest artists. rCLThatrCOs not going to
bring about world peace.rCY
All three were grateful for TIFF chief executive Cameron BaileyrCOs apology and
overwhelmed with the warm reception, including standing ovations before and >>> after the film. rCLIt spread into my heart,rCY said Mr. Tibon. rCLAnd I felt, you
know, this is a victory for the truth.rCY
A nod to the destruction of Gaza toward the end of the film (which is now in
theatres) has not satisfied many critics, who note the lack of crucial
context. Mr. Avrich says this isnrCOt a political film. ItrCOs about a manrCOs
effort to save his family.
Perhaps we are heading, finally, after the two longest years, toward peace. >>> Maybe, finally, this war will end. The killing in Gaza will stop. The hostages
can come home. Families can bury their loved ones.
We shall see what the next few days bring. The next few years. So many deaths,
so much destruction, so much damage, beyond the physical. These harms will >>> last generations. Today, if you are fortunate enough to be able to, hug your
loved ones close.
Marsha Lederman- G&M Oct.7/25
Kingdom, Europe, Russia, Africa, Asia and the entire Middle East.
Nobody seems to know why.
Because people insist on choosing a side.
On 10/7/2025 10:41 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 10:06:56 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/7/2025 7:20 AM, Tara wrote:
Two years after the Oct. 7 attacks, the road between us is more volatile thanThis is when you thank God you're armed.
ever
On Oct. 7, 2023, two years ago u two years u Noam Tibon received a string of
alarming texts from his son. oThey are shooting at us,o one said. Another: >>>> oThere are terrorists in the neighbourhood. I think also in the house.o >>>>
Mr. Tibon, a retired Israeli army major-general, told his son: oStay quiet.o
GazaHis son was texting from the safe room at his home on a kibbutz near
where he, his daughters, then aged one and three, and his wife waited silentlyAntisemitism has become rampant not only in Canada, but in the United
in complete darkness.
Mr. Tibon and his wife Gali Mir-Tibon got into their car in Tel Aviv and drove
to rescue them. oThis is the instinct of a father. Of a grandfather. My family
is under danger.o
Mr. Tibon speaks these words in the Canadian documentary The Road Between Us:
The Ultimate Rescue. The film had its world premiere at the Toronto
International Film Festival after being invited, then disinvited (after >>>> filmmaker Barry Avrich was asked, he says, to withdraw u which he refused to
do), then reinvited after outcry. As a sold-out crowd shuffled through >>>> military-grade security outside Roy Thomson Hall, they were greeted by shouts
of oshameo by protesters.
Protesting a film isnAt terrible, but it is telling. What is shameful about
grandparents rescuing their family? None of the people protesting the film >>>> could have seen it. What was their beef, exactly? That Israelis who were >>>> massacred on Oct. 7, 2023, or miraculously survived, were shown to be people
worthy of sympathy u or regard?
Two years after these bloody attacks, two years into the catastrophic war that
followed, with its tens of thousands of victims, we are at a moment of hope,
finally. But this anniversary will forever be seared into history. The horrors
of that day will never be forgotten.
The film, which won the PeopleAs Choice Award at TIFF, includes footage of >>>> that massacre u blood-soaked floors in homes with bunk beds and baby-bouncer
chairs as witness. People being shot point blank. oBrothers, we donAt want >>>> hostages, weAve got a lot already,o someone says in Arabic. oKill.o
Protest is a pillar of any democratic society. Bring it on. But anger over >>>> IsraelAs war in Gaza has turned into something else, something ugly u and >>>> deadly. It has created an atmosphere where someone might shoot at innocent >>>> people outside a Jewish museum in Washington and yell oFree Palestineo; throw
flames while yelling oFree Palestineo at a peaceful demonstration in Colorado
for the hostages, ultimately killing an 82-year-old woman; or ram a car and
begin a stabbing spree outside a synagogue in Manchester on the holiest day of
the Jewish calendar.
During Yom Kippur services in Vancouver that same day, with police standing
guard, one line from the prayer book really resonated with a rattled
congregation. It sought GodAs prayers ofor the sake of those killed because
they were Jews.o
Antisemitism has become rampant in Canada, statistics show. One example: >>>> graffiti on a Victoria synagogue this summer admonished ochild-killing Jew >>>> monsters.o
IsraelAs war on Gaza is catastrophic. But targeting Jews u who are not >>>> responsible u in Canada, where we have a right to live free from
discrimination, like every other minority? That has been shattering.
The art world has not been immune. I asked Mr. Tibon, Mr. Avrich and producer
Mark Selby about navigating the TIFF roller coaster, only to arrive at the >>>> theatre to protesters yelling oshame.o
oI believe in peaceful protest, no matter what your side is here,o said Mr.
Avrich. oBut really what is the point protesting art? If you donAt want to go,
donAt go. DonAt buy a ticket.o
Mr. Selby said it seems ridiculous to protest artists. oThatAs not going to
bring about world peace.o
All three were grateful for TIFF chief executive Cameron BaileyAs apology and
overwhelmed with the warm reception, including standing ovations before and
after the film. oIt spread into my heart,o said Mr. Tibon. oAnd I felt, you
know, this is a victory for the truth.o
A nod to the destruction of Gaza toward the end of the film (which is now in
theatres) has not satisfied many critics, who note the lack of crucial >>>> context. Mr. Avrich says this isnAt a political film. ItAs about a manAs >>>> effort to save his family.
Perhaps we are heading, finally, after the two longest years, toward peace.
Maybe, finally, this war will end. The killing in Gaza will stop. The hostages
can come home. Families can bury their loved ones.
We shall see what the next few days bring. The next few years. So many deaths,
so much destruction, so much damage, beyond the physical. These harms will >>>> last generations. Today, if you are fortunate enough to be able to, hug your
loved ones close.
Marsha Lederman- G&M Oct.7/25
Kingdom, Europe, Russia, Africa, Asia and the entire Middle East.
Nobody seems to know why.
Because people insist on choosing a side.
Just step up and declare if you're a Jew hater or not. There's no sides, >it's just a matter of degree.